Hi Listers, My first time on this list. I am hoping somebody can help me or point me in the right direction. A William Henry Tudgay b.1898 left the UK and travelled to Canada. He hoped to join the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. He was employed as a cook at Willow Creek Detachment from 1910-1911(he would only have been 12) and again from 1911-1913. He was then employed as a cook at Ten Mile Detachment from 1914-1915 and then again as a cook at Willow Creek Detachment from 10/1915-11/1915. I have just recently learnt that his mother left the UK to visit him and her journey took her to Alberta. I have no idea if the above Detachments were in Alberta. The above dates were obtained from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police just recently. They were unable to offer us any other details. Anything you can suggested will be appreciated. Many thanks in anticipation Val in a wintry New Zealand Researching STEVENS,WILTSHIRE,TUDGAY,STANCOMBE,LAMB(all from the UK) DUNBAR,WILSON and GOLLAN (all from Northern Ireland and maybe Scotland)

Hi Val, I checked www.canada411.com, there are no listings for any Tudgays. I thought I could phone if there are any in Alberta. Hope that helps a little, Ines At 06:50 PM 6/25/01 +1200, Roy-Val wrote: >Hi Listers, >My first time on this list. I am hoping somebody can help me or point me >in the right direction. A William Henry Tudgay b.1898 left the UK and >travelled to Canada. He hoped to join the Royal Canadian Mounted >Police. He was employed as a cook at Willow Creek Detachment from >1910-1911(he would only have been 12) and again from 1911-1913. He was >then employed as a cook at Ten Mile Detachment from 1914-1915 and then >again as a cook at Willow Creek Detachment from 10/1915-11/1915. I have >just recently learnt that his mother left the UK to visit him and her >journey took her to Alberta. I have no idea if the above Detachments were >in Alberta. The above dates were obtained from the Royal Canadian Mounted >Police just recently. They were unable to offer us any other details. >Anything you can suggested will be appreciated. Many thanks in anticipation > >Val in a wintry New Zealand >Researching >STEVENS,WILTSHIRE,TUDGAY,STANCOMBE,LAMB(all from the UK) >DUNBAR,WILSON and GOLLAN (all from Northern Ireland and maybe >Scotland) > > > > >==== ALBERTA Mailing List ==== >Do not use HTML or RTF (rich text format) in messages sent to >the mailing list - they will be returned to you.

Hello Everyone: I am researching the BUSH and CLARKE family. My g grand parents lived in Calgary in the late 1890-1910 or so. My g grandmothers name was ESTHER (nee BUSH) born in 1883 and my g grandfathers name was FREDERICK WILLIAM CLARKE born in 1880. They had 4 children - JEAN born in 1907 in Calgary, NORMAN, LLOYD and VERNA. The family eventually moved to Brantford, ON. If anyone is researching these surnames or knows of brother, sisters of either Frederick or Esther I would be delighted to hear from you. Thank You, Carolynn Irvin

Hi, Seeig the list is quiet, thought you might get a kick out of this.:-) Ron wrote: > http://rootslady.com/The_Outhouse/ > later, Les St.Pierre,Bradenton,Fl. ICQ 28055535

Hi folks, I am new to this website and was wondering if I had connected until I saw you email on my computer. I am searching for any one that is searching the Gallup and Dille family that were settled at Rosemary, Alberta. Sharon Ines Mannhardt wrote: > I think all the chatterboxes are busy camping, enjoying the weather, > gardening or some such things. It's been very quiet lately. > Ines > > At 08:03 PM 6/23/01 -0600, Barbara Semchuk wrote: > >I'm wondering why I have had any mail from ALBERTA-L@rootsweb.com > >lately. > >No one talking?????? > > > > > >==== ALBERTA Mailing List ==== > >There are several hundred people subscribed to the mailing list > >with new subscribers almost daily. Resubmit your queries every few > >months in order to reach the largest number of subscribers. > > ==== ALBERTA Mailing List ==== > Search ALBERTA Mailing List Archives with the > Rootsweb Mailing List Interactive Search at > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

I think all the chatterboxes are busy camping, enjoying the weather, gardening or some such things. It's been very quiet lately. Ines At 08:03 PM 6/23/01 -0600, Barbara Semchuk wrote: >I'm wondering why I have had any mail from ALBERTA-L@rootsweb.com >lately. >No one talking?????? > > >==== ALBERTA Mailing List ==== >There are several hundred people subscribed to the mailing list >with new subscribers almost daily. Resubmit your queries every few >months in order to reach the largest number of subscribers.

I'm wondering why I have had any mail from ALBERTA-L@rootsweb.com lately. No one talking??????

Hi Darlene. Thank you for your thank you. The more people we can inform and recruit to speak to and write their MPs and officials who have some control in this matter, and to sign petitions, the better chance we have of succeeding in our quest to regain public access to Historic Census. Parliament has recessed for the summer and we now have about three months to do this before it reconvenes on 19 September 2001. Vacations, family reunions, and other gatherings present many opportunities to gather signatures on petitions, and to inform others about our efforts. With the uncounted petitions now sitting on my dining room table, we now have collected well over 10,000 signatures for the House of Commons. Muriel Davidson has collected a similar number for the Senate, and we both continue to receive petitions on an almost daily basis. It is only with the continued participation of people like yourself and other listers that we will succeed. And succeed we will. It will not be this year, but I have great hopes that we will see a Bill passed sometime next year. This is my fourth year of encouraging participation by others in our quest. I would very much like to see the successful end of the campaign so that I might return to my own genealogy. With your help, I will be able to do this some day. Thank you again for your continued interest and support. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "D LaFlamme" <dlaflamme@midbc.com> To: <ALBERTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:10 PM Subject: [ALBERTA] Gordon Watts Gordon: Thanks so much for passing on the article from The Globe and Mail. It is very well written and I would hope it would open somebodys eyes? Thanks again for letting us know so we all can read it and be well informed. Darlene LaFlamme

Gordon: Thanks so much for passing on the article from The Globe and Mail. It is very well written and I would hope it would open somebodys eyes? Thanks again for letting us know so we all can read it and be well informed. Darlene LaFlamme

Greetings All My thanks to Doug Porteous on the Can-Saskatchewan mail list for posting the URL for the following article of the 20 June Globe and Mail. Thanks also to Garth Ulrich, our Canada Census Committee member in Saskatchewan for forwarding it to me. The URL for the original article is: http://www.globeandmail.com/gam/Commentary/20010620/COCENSUS.html Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en francais http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm Permission to forward this message without notice is granted. ======================================== Don't muzzle our past Wilfrid Laurier never intended to keep the 1906 census secret, says historian BILL WAISER BILL WAISER Wednesday, June 20, 2001 In 2005, Saskatchewan and Alberta will celebrate their centennial as provinces. All kinds of special events are being planned for the occasion. But, as things now stand, one important historical player -- the 1906 special Western census -- will not be there. At the beginning of the 20th century, hundreds of thousands of immigrants helped fuel what became known as the "Laurier Boom." Most newcomers were attracted by the promise of the "last best West" and took up homesteads in record numbers. Prairie cities became some of the world's fastest growing urban centres: Saskatoon, for example, mushroomed from 113 people in 1901 to more than 12,000 a decade later. Prime Minister Wilfrid Laurier took pride that one of Confederation's last great tasks -- settlement of the Western interior -- was finally being realized. He recognized that a new agricultural society was in the making, one with a distinctive, continental European component, and wanted to capture this change. He ordered a special Western census for June, 1906 -- held in the three Prairie provinces only. It was an unprecedented exercise. Census-taking was normally held every 10 years -- the last one in 1901. But Western Canada's growth was so phenomenal that Laurier decided to take a kind of statistical snapshot of the region's population and agriculture for posterity. This census material is now almost a century old. According to federal legislation (the Privacy, Access to Information, and National Archives acts), it should have been made available for public consultation in 1998. Ian Wilson, the Chief Archivist, has asked Statistics Canada to transfer the 1906 census to the custody and control of the Archives. This request has not been honoured and the law has not been respected. Those opposed to releasing the 1906 census contend that prime minister Laurier made a pledge that the information would remain confidential forever. But none of these opponents -- or anyone else for that matter -- has been able to produce any evidence of the so-called Laurier promise. What we do know is that the 1906 census did have a confidentiality provision "to keep inviolate the secrecy of the information" that was specifically aimed at census enumerators, not the general public generations later. The Laurier government wanted to assure Westerners that census information would not be passed along to tax collectors or military conscription personnel, and instructed its census workers to emphasize this point. But the 1906 census instructions also state, "The Census is intended to be a permanent record, and its schedules will be stored in the Archives of the Dominion." Releasing the 1906 census data would not break a promise to Canadians; it would keep one. The continuing failure to transfer these records to the National Archives breaks faith with the original intentions of the Laurier government and violates the current access and privacy laws of Canada. Maybe it's time for three of the Liberal leadership hopefuls -- John Manley, Brian Tobin and Sheila Copps -- to show some leadership on this important issue. In November, 1999, then industry minister Manley appointed an expert panel to investigate how historical census material should be handled. The panel concluded that there was no impediment to transferring the 1906 census to the National Archives -- a position supported by a legal opinion from the Department of Justice. Mr. Tobin, the new industry minister, has had several months to study and act on the report. Researchers from his province of Newfoundland currently enjoy access to its 1945 census. One wonders why Western Canadians are being denied the same privilege, especially given the purpose of the 1906 census. Ms. Copps, meanwhile, has been promoting Canadian heritage at every opportunity, but has been uncharacteristically silent on the census question. Surely, her department should be championing the fundamental importance of this material for a more complete understanding of Canada's past. Then there's Jean Chrétien, who likes to compare himself to Laurier and seems to be looking for a legacy. What better way to honour one of our most successful prime ministers than to provide access to the census that gave credence to the term, "Canada's Century"? It's time to release the 1906 special Western census for public consultation. The Saskatchewan and Alberta centennials are just four years away. Researchers need time to examine the material to learn more about the Laurier era in general, and the histories of Western families in particular. There are half a million individual stories waiting to be told. Now that's a celebration. Bill Waiser lives in Saskatoon. He is a board member of Canada's National History Society.

I am searching for descedents of Thos Steen and his wife Martha Idelia Fike who were nmarried in Osbnabruck Ontario Dec 1887. Martha is the daughter of Samuel Fike.and Permillia Losey She and her husband moved to a homestead near Alsack, Alberta about 1911 I am anxious to make contact with descendents of this family. ABentley10@home.com

Hi Dianne and all ....My family all went from Ontario to Montana where they homesteaded. We know that William sold his land to one of his brothers and returned to Canada only not Ontario but Rochester Alberta. He was the only one in the family who didn't prove his land for Homestead but his father then willed his land to him in 1917 and this is the land he then sold his brother. We don't know the reason for this but I'm wondering if William possibly took care of his Dad's land for him, as a newspaper clipping we found says Andrew, his father, had rheumatism and then a stroke which he never recovered from. William was said to be very artistic and moulded clay faces. Sincerely Linda B.C. >Your Shaw was likely at rochester, Alberta because he was >homesteading---or working on building roads or the railway!! > >where in the States did he end up? I have an Emily Rabchak that >married ??Shaw and lived in Ney York, NY > >Dianne Rabchak

Hi everyone...This is my first posting to your list. Having no previous research experience in Alberta I am here to learn as well as to find what became of my lost great Uncle. I've just returned from a trip to Livingston Montana where my great grandparents The SHAWs and their four sons homesteaded after the turn of the century. One of the boys, William SHAW, single man, sold his land to his brother John D. SHAW in 1922 and disappeared. Land records in Livingston disclosed he was at the time a resident of Rochester, Alberta. William was born in Woodstock, Ontario July 17, 1877 but became an American citizen. Can anyone suggest a way I can track down my William (aka Bill) in Rochester? What would have been going on in Rochester in 1922 to attract him? Thank you for any help you may be able to give, Sincerely Linda of B.C.

http://www.eastcentral.ab.ca/ this should be the site for Hardisty etc. Hope this helps Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trevor & Cindi Watson" <ttrails@nethere.net> To: <ALBERTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [ALBERTA] URL help > Cindi should not write emails when tired. That was supposed to read "My > cousin sent me a URL for the area where (where being the operative word) > Amisk, Hardisty and Hughendon are located" I have not yet searched for the > URL on dogpile and probably won't tonite, so help is still welcomed. > > Ok, now that I cleared that up, I am going to bed. Thanks > > Cindi > > > ==== ALBERTA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from ALBERTA-D, e-mail to: ALBERTA-D-request@rootsweb.com > In the body type only: unsubscribe (Turn OFF signature file and leave subject > line blank) Unsubscribe from the same email address you subscribed with. >

Hello Everyone: I am new to the list and am researching the CLARKE family originally from Calgary, AB. They had four children, Jean, Lloyd, Norman and Verna. Carolynn Irvin

Any information please Bob

Cindi should not write emails when tired. That was supposed to read "My cousin sent me a URL for the area where (where being the operative word) Amisk, Hardisty and Hughendon are located" I have not yet searched for the URL on dogpile and probably won't tonite, so help is still welcomed. Ok, now that I cleared that up, I am going to bed. Thanks Cindi

Viola, I found the information I required regarding date of death of an aunt by calling the Village office and asking where the records of the cemetery were held. I was fortunate in that that was the only call I had to make, as the records were held in the village office that I called. Not all towns, cities or villages will hold those records, but I'm sure that they can tell you who to contact. http://www.rootsweb.com/~cansk/Saskatchewan/ copy and paste this address in your internet browser and it should link you to the Prince Albert cemetery names. The freedom of information law or FOIP (Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act) governs departments, branches and offices of the Government of the province, as well as agencies, boards and commissions. It also includes "local public bodies" in the education, health care and local government sectors. I can well understand the hospital and or funeral home not being able to give out this information as they fall under those categories. It is not a matter that they don't know the answers it is more a legal issue. However the cemetery board I don't believe would fall under these categories. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Viola Seward" <olla@i29.net> To: <ALBERTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 12:27 PM Subject: [ALBERTA] Old Records. Hosp or Funeral. > Funny about getting old records. You see i tried to call the hospital in > Prince Albert where my ggrandmother died. When asked the year they hung > up on me. So called funeral home in area same thing happened to me. So > what can i do ?? Do not need the info now as i found a few new cousins > on that side of family. But people beware Hospitals an Funeral homes do > not have all the answers. Plus some times they will not release it > unless you meet them face to face. But how some one who was buried 30 > years ago can be matched up by a person facing them i do not know. ESP i > would imagine . > Good luck. > Viola. > > > ==== ALBERTA Mailing List ==== > To post messages to everyone on the list: > ALBERTA-L@rootsweb.com >

Hello all, My cousin sent me this website url for the Hardisty, Amisk and Hughendon are but it appears to be a bad link. Can anyone out there help me with finding the correct one, please. I don't have the heart to tell her it is wrong because she is new to computers and seems a bit flustered by them at times. www.eastcentralalberta.com Thanks! Cindi

Hello There. I have just joined your list . My name is Pat Bakewell. I am trying to find anything in and around Calgary . As my Grandparents were married and lived there. James Fulton born 1884 ? he married Margaret Ann Brown born 1884 ?They married April 14, 1910.in Calgary Alberta. They had three children all born in Calgary. My Father Jame,born Jan 24, 1911. Margaret born 1914, and Violet born 1912 ?I don,t know were my Grandfather was born. (James Fulton) he was killed at Vimy in 1916. When my father was just 5 years old. So we really don,t know very much.If anyone can help me get started in the right direction, it would be greatly appreciated. Pat. patbill@telusplanet.net