To all Family Researchers, Genealogists, Historians and Others:- As Co-Chair of the Canada Census Committee, hoping for the release of the Post-1901 Canadian census records so you and I may be able to complete our family trees, I am happy that The Hon. Allan Rock will be the new Minister of Industry, in charge of census records. Petitions with many signatures keep arriving at my home every day mail day, both for the Senate and for House of Commons. Believe it or not, this is the only PROOF you and I are able to submit -- the signatures are counted when presented, recorded in Hansard. I hope many will write a brief note of welcome to The Hon. Allan Rock, M.P. at Rock.A@parl.gc.ca You do not need to include family facts, just a friendly welcome -- with a BCC to me -- these will be saved in s new folder, already named "Allan Rock". Looking forward to many more petitions -- English, French and from Non-Residents for both Senate and House of Commons. Download your chosen petition from (or I have attachments) http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm You may also have to download Adobe Acrobat FREE Should you receive a reply from Mr. Rock or his assistant, please copy to me for his Scoreboard message board. Let's give The Hon. Allan Rock a Canada-wide welcome!! Muriel M. Davidson davidson3542@rogers.com Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Senscore1.htm
To all Family Researchers, Genealogists, Historians and Others:- As Co-Chair of the Canada Census Committee, hoping for the release of the Post-1901 Canadian census records so you and I may be able to complete our family trees, I am happy that The Hon. Allan Rock will be the new Minister of Industry, in charge of census records. Petitions with many signatures keep arriving at my home every day mail day, both for the Senate and for House of Commons. Believe it or not, this is the only PROOF you and I are able to submit -- the signatures are counted when presented, recorded in Hansard. I hope many will write a brief note of welcome to The Hon. Allan Rock, M.P. at Rock.A@parl.gc.ca You do not need to include family facts, just a friendly welcome -- with a BCC to me -- these will be saved in s new folder, already named "Allan Rock". Looking forward to many more petitions -- English, French and from Non-Residents for both Senate and House of Commons. Download your chosen petition from (or I have attachments) http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm You may also have to download Adobe Acrobat FREE Should you receive a reply from Mr. Rock or his assistant, please copy to me for his Scoreboard message board. Let's give The Hon. Allan Rock a Canada-wide welcome!! Muriel M. Davidson davidson3542@rogers.com Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Senscore1.htm
To all Family Researchers, Genealogists, Historians and Others:- As Co-Chair of the Canada Census Committee, hoping for the release of the Post-1901 Canadian census records so you and I may be able to complete our family trees, I am happy that The Hon. Allan Rock will be the new Minister of Industry, in charge of census records. Petitions with many signatures keep arriving at my home every day mail day, both for the Senate and for House of Commons. Believe it or not, this is the only PROOF you and I are able to submit -- the signatures are counted when presented, recorded in Hansard. I hope many will write a brief note of welcome to The Hon. Allan Rock, M.P. at Rock.A@parl.gc.ca You do not need to include family facts, just a friendly welcome -- with a BCC to me -- these will be saved in s new folder, already named "Allan Rock". Looking forward to many more petitions -- English, French and from Non-Residents for both Senate and House of Commons. Download your chosen petition from (or I have attachments) http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Petition.htm You may also have to download Adobe Acrobat FREE Should you receive a reply from Mr. Rock or his assistant, please copy to me for his Scoreboard message board. Let's give The Hon. Allan Rock a Canada-wide welcome!! Muriel M. Davidson davidson3542@rogers.com Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee 25 Crestview Avenue, Brampton, ON L6W 2R8 http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index6.htm http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Senscore1.htm
Greetings All. Last night, and this morning, have shown some interesting changes made to our Federal Liberal Cabinet. I thank all who have sent me messages advising of some of these changes, particularly those which might have had an effect on our efforts to regain public access to Historic Census Records. The resignation of Brian Tobin, not just from the Federal Liberal Cabinet but presumably from politics altogether, does not really surprise me as I wondered how long it would be before he quit something again. He served many years as a Liberal MP and member of Cabinet before quitting Federal politics to run for and successfully be elected as Premier of Newfoundland. He quit that to return to Ottawa and was appointed as Minister of Industry without having been elected by the people of Canada. While he was subsequently elected in the general election, and retained his position as Minister of Industry, I find abhorrent the idea of someone not elected by the people being placed in a position of power within the Cabinet of the government. Until this happened with Brian Tobin I had not been aware of this happening previously, but have since learned that it has. We will not miss Mr. Tobin, or cry buckets of tears because of his absence. In our opinion, insofar as our campaign regarding Census is concerned, he abdicated his responsibilities of direction to Statistics Canada. We feel that he never had an original thought regarding access to Census records. When, on the only occasion I am aware of his making a public statement on this issue (release of the Report of the Expert Panel on 15 December 2000), his lips may have moved, but the words were those of Dr. Ivan Fellegi, Chief Statistician of Canada. His refusal to respond to our concerns, or to even acknowledge receipt of our correspondence, was insulting, and resulted in Access to Information requests made for which we are still waiting for the information requested. Being in public service as an elected representative of the people is not an easy task, and certainly takes a toll on family life. I give Mr. Tobin credit for all the years he has served the people, both of Canada, and of Newfoundland, and wish him well in whatever endeavours he takes on from this point forward. I will not, however, miss his lack of direction regarding the Census issue. We view the appointment of the Hon. Allan Rock to the position vacated by Mr. Tobin as a positive move. While Mr. Rock has not provided a definitive answer to the question of his support of access, he has had the courtesy to respond to, or acknowledge receipt of, our correspondence, as did Mr. Tobin's predecessor, John Manley. We are optimistic that Mr. Rock will at least give serious thought to our concerns regarding Census. We look forward to his giving direction to Statistics Canada regarding this matter, rather than simply being a 'front' for Dr. Fellegi. A reminder to all about the importance of attending the Town Hall meetings, either as presenters, or as spectators. We must display a prescence at these meetings to show our support for public access to the Census records. Even if all you do is fill a chair and clap to show support of positive presenters, you will be helping. Statistics Canada surely set up this expensive and unnecessary series of meetings and focus groups hoping to receive negative responses. They must be shown that the only thing negative is their refusal to turn control of the records over to the National Archives, and their so-called 'compromise solution' that is no 'compromise' at all, but a thinly veiled attempt to make access so restrictive as to be little better than no access at all. Another request for all presenters to send me copies of their presentations to place on the Post 1901 Census Project website. I also seek reports from those attending the meetings on their impressions of the proceedings. Please keep us informed. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC Fax 604-942-6843 http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
"""HELP PLEASE"" Would there be anyone who is making a trip to the "ARCHIVES" in Edmonton in the near future, that would be willing to do some lookup's for me. What is needed Birth info(1-Surnames all the same 5 first name's)1930-1950 Marriage info(2 Surnames 3 first name's)1930-1940 Death info(2 Surnames names)1914+1925 have DOD but need parents names,etc Will be happy to pay for photo copying if can be done and mailing cost's Please reply of list Bill Just a small lookup volunteer for the County Of Cypress
To all:- Some time ago, I found an Alberta URL, I believe, which provided the information that my gr.uncle, Belmont Otto Ford was granted land at Tolland, Alberta. I also learned his WWI service record number -- this I had not believed as he was, so I thought, too old to be in the Army. Would anyone be able to give me the correct URL? Family members live in Fort Vermilion and in Edmonton. Muriel M. Davidson davidson3542@rogers.com Brampton, Ontario
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TNC.2ACI/972.1.1 Message Board Post: Actually I am doing the Babcock/Kelly families, and Walroth falls in the Babcock side. If I can help you with anything just ask.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/TNC.2ACI/972.1 Message Board Post: I have extensive trees for the Walroth family, but cannot make the connection between two or three groups from the L&A and Portland Townships. I am the great grandson of Isabella Minerva Walroth. How do you fit in? Steve
Maybe you can help me with some information about my mother-in-law. Dorothy Eunice Austin nee Van Duzee b. Feb 16, 1920 in Carstairs, Alberta, CANADA I'm looking for information on her mother. Edna Drinkwater. Dorothy was one of six or seven children. The family lived in Carstairs for quite some time. Thanks, Jean Austin ----- Original Message ----- From: <ALBERTA-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ALBERTA-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:01 AM Subject: ALBERTA-D Digest V02 #10
Greetings all. My apologies for the length of this message. It is the text of a message that I have just sent to Statistics Canada protesting some recent actions relating to the Town Hall Meetings and Focus Groups being held on access to Historic Census Records. It will be interesting to see what response I get. Happy Hunting Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm ======================================= You will recall that on Thursday 29 November 2001 I sent a rather lenthy email communication to Dr. Ivan Fellegi, Chief Statistician of Canada. In this message I expressed a number of concerns relating to the then upcoming Town Hall meetings and Focus Groups. I asked a number of very specific questions requesting very specific answers. While your reply, dated Friday 14 December 2001, on behalf of Dr. Fellegi, did not fully answer my questions I was relatively satisfied with your response -- until now, that is. I am disturbed by communications I have received regarding certain events relating to these Town Hall meetings and Focus Groups. In my message to Dr: Fellegi I asked: ..... What is the criteria for choosing participants of the focus groups? Specifically what questions will be asked of prospective participants, and for what reasons will those contacted not be considered for participation? On what basis will prospective participants be accepted? Your response to this query was as follows: ..... The selection of participants for the focus groups will be done using education as a selection criteria, with one group in each city composed of individual with post-secondary education and the second group composed of those with no post-secondary education. All selections for the focus groups will include a mix of genders, age groups (all 18 years and over), occupation and income, and will follow market research standards for recruitment. The selection will be made by Environics. It would appear that the criteria you stated is not the only criteria for determining participation in these focus groups. The following is a part of an email that I received on Thursday 10 January 2002. "I was invited to attend a focus group this evening at Research House,1867 Yonge Street in Toronto. The topic was to be something "general consumer". At the beginning of the session the facilitator, Chris Roberts, introduced himself as from Environics. He said that he lives in Ottawa and travels around the country conducting focus groups. He then asked all the participants to introduce themselves, saying what they did for a living and what they did for fun. I mentioned my work and then said that my hobby was genealogy or family history. The facilitator then asked whether I belonged to any societies. I said yes, the Ontario Genealogical Society. He then said that he would have to ask me to leave. He accompanied me out and explained in the hallway that the topic was the release of the historic census." I am extremely upset regarding the content of this message. Contrary to the stated purpose of these consultations, i.e. that a broad range of Canadians have an opportunity to express their views on the issue of access to Historical Census Records, the appearance is that there is an attempt to prevent anyone that might have any knowledge whatsoever of Census from participating in these focus groups. This does little to dispell the fears expressed in my letter to Dr. Fellegi that information provided to participants in these endeavours, and the questions asked of them, will be biased so as to elicit negative responses. In addition to the above, I have been advised of individuals seeking to participate in the various Town Hall meetings being refused simply on the basis that they admitted belonging to an organization from which they were told someone else was already booked to make a presentation. This has happened even though there were time slots available. I am advised that in one instance where this happened, there was at least one time slot left vacant for the specific meeting requested. In most provinces there are blanket historical and genealogical societies. These blanket organizations may have many different chapters and people from some of these different chapters may wish to participate. The Ontario Genealogical Society, for example, has dozens of chapters througout the province. In our view it is not justifiable to refuse the participation of an individual who admits to being a member of the OGS simply because there is already a member of the OGS participating. Those requesting to participate could come from chapters on opposite ends of the province, and have very different points to make. While I am on a roll I will voice a few other complaints regarding these proceedings. We are aware of the solicitation by Environics (or Statistics Canada) of certain people to appear and speak at the Town Hall Meetings. Those solicited are individuals that might logically be expected to speak against access, such as privacy advocates and statistical employees of provincial governments. I was personally advised of such solicitation by the privacy consultant and researcher that appeared at the Ottawa meeting. It must have been a shock when he did not speak out against access of 1906 and 1911 Census records. At the Halifax meeting there were two provincial government bureaucrats who spoke. We suspect that both of these individuals were 'invited' to participate. At least one of them thanked the moderator for the invitations to speak. Both, of course, opposed access. They are the only participants of any meeting held to date that opposed access. It is interesting that people expected to be opposed to access are being 'invited' by Environics to participate, while those expected to support it are not. We will be watching with interest to see who, at other meetings, will have been 'invited' to participate. We of course object to the pushing of the unsubstantiated 'promise' and the so-called 'third option' or 'compromise solution' at these meetings. We do not expect, however, regardless of our objections, that anything will change in this regard. In regards the Vancouver meeting, at which I am scheduled to speak, the date originally scheduled was 4 February 2002. The date of this meeting was changed without notification to participants to 30 January 2002. It was only by accident I found out about this change. I wonder how many others granted spots to speak on 4 February have not been notified about the change in date. Environics will not inform anyone who is scheduled to appear until the morning of the meeting. By that time it will likely be too late to inform anyone of the change. I am aware of a number of people intending to travel a great distance to attend these meetings. If any meeting date or time is changed, Environics should be contacting those scheduled to advise them of the change. I will look forward to receiving a response to my concerns from Statistics Canada. Thank you. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
Greetings All I have been living on my computer since my return from Calgary Wednesday night. I have just sent files to add pages to the Post 1901 Census Project website (located at the URL following my signature) that contain reports and presentations of those attending and/or making presentations at the Town Hall meetings being held by Statistics Canada. I expect that they will be loaded to the server sometime Monday. The files sent contain all reports that I have received for the meetings in Ottawa, Halifax, and Toronto. I would suggest that anyone intending to participate in, or observe, the upcoming meetings in other location, should read the reports on these pages to get an idea of what to expect when attending. There are a number of particpants that have not yet sent me a report, or copy of their presentations, and I would request that they do so, so that they may be added to the website and complete the picture of what is going on. My list of projected particpants for the upcoming meetings has a lot of empty space. If you are scheduled to speak at a meeting and have not already done so, please let me know at what meetings you will participate. The tender for contract for these meetings called for seating for up to 100 spectators. Attendance at meetings held to date have had far less than full attendance. As I have observed before, the worst thing that we can do is to have empty slots for presenters and empty seats for observers. I would encourage anyone that is able to attend these meetings and show our interest in regaining public access to Historic Census records. Meetings held so far have all had time for brief comments by members of the audience. You may not feel like making a full presentation but this may give you a chance to express your support in a few short sentences. Presenters should make mention of the following points. -- knowledge of access after 92 years will not lessen participation in Census or trust in Statistics Canada, but withholding of these records might. -- the 'compromise solution' or 'third option' is not acceptable in any way, shape or form. -- thirty years of discussion is enough -- the time has come to act. Either accept Bill S-12 as a government Bill and see it passed into law, or take steps to act on the recommendations of the Report of the Expert Panel on Access to Historic Census Records. Meetings coming up this week are at Fredericton, Charlottetown, and St. John's on the 14th, 16th, and 18th respectively. Lets do our best to fill up all speakers slots and have a full house in the audience. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm
Sorry but i goofed up. Which is normal for me. But today have an excuse tho i will not blame it on that. Lost my last Morrison uncle this morning. He lived 87 years. Still good mind. Would have been 88 on 22nd of Jan. Any way the addy below ends in html. Which i will fix. Again i am sorry. Viola. Viola Seward wrote: > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~abbiglak/biglakes.html > Blanchard sent this url in. Went into it and every name you can think of > here. I put Tremblay in to search. Found Raphael and Kate Tremblay and > it had "Dreams + Determination; Athabasca. So put that into search > engine pages of names. Like a page of all T or B. > Thank you. > Viola. > > ==== ALBERTA Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from ALBERTA-D, e-mail to: ALBERTA-D-request@rootsweb.com > In the body type only: unsubscribe (Turn OFF signature file and leave subject > line blank) Unsubscribe from the same email address you subscribed with.
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~abbiglak/biglakes.com Blanchard sent this url in. Went into it and every name you can think of here. I put Tremblay in to search. Found Raphael and Kate Tremblay and it had "Dreams + Determination; Athabasca. So put that into search engine pages of names. Like a page of all T or B. Thank you. Viola.
FREDERICTON January 14th, 2-4pm & 6-8pm Fort Beaverbrook Hotel, 659 Queen Street CHARLOTTETOWN January 16th, 2-4pm & 6-8pm Delta Prince Edward, 18 Queen St. [Garth Staples and one other scheduled -- Garth at 2:35 P.M.] ST. JOHN'S (NF) January 18th, 2-4pm & 6-8pm The Fairmont Newfoundland, Cavendish Square REGINA January 25th, 2-4pm & 6-8pm The Regina Inn, 1975 Broad Street EDMONTON January 28th, 2-4pm & 6-8pm The Westin Hotel, 10135-100 Street VANCOUVER February 4th, 2-4pm & 6-8pm Century Plaza Hotel and Spa, 1015 Burrard St. [Gordon Watts has been accepted as one speaker] By now, names of speakers will be selected, I am certain. Gordon Watts gordon_watts@telus.net is compiling information of the various Town Hall meetings and this will be posted on a special page for all to read. I have read the beginning of this page and it will be very interesting. Also, Focus Group meetings are generally held the day following the Town Hall meeting -- BY INVITATION. I warn anyone attending a Focus Group meeting to "play dumb", "do not have time" or some other stupid answer when asked if YOU are a member of a genealogical or historical group. Reason:- You will be given a hasty escort OUT of the meeting. [How I would love to be invited to one of these meetings?] Muriel M. Davidson davidson3542@rogers.com Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee
I think this is what Norma may have been refering to. Regards Jay > 1. Dominion Land Grant site > http://www.archives.ca/exec/naweb.dll?fs&02011102&e&top&0 > (also below) > 2. Then take the above number and put them into here- > Coordinate Converter : > http://www.maptown.com/coordinates.html > 3. But # 2 gives the reading in decimals so go to this next site , which > will put the numbers in minutes and seconds: > http://www2.arrl.org/locate/grid.html > 4. Lastly , if you want to find the nearest town to the land grant go to > this last site and scroll down to the list and the third one says "Query > by point coordinates" > http://geonames.nrcan.gc.ca/english/cgndb.html > > Link: Dominion Land Grant Search > URL: <http://www.archives.ca/exec/naweb.dll?fs&02011102&e&top&0> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "bhorte" <bhorte@telusplanet.net> To: <ALBERTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 9:10 AM Subject: [ALBERTA] Re:Land location > Well! that will work, but I know the answer to that question would be in the > archives of this list! > I've seem it( I mean a website where you can get that info.) but ofcourse I > never saved it! > I asked the same question last week. > Who ever knows can you please post it again? > Also...... how do you get into the Alberta-L archives? > Norma(bhorte@telusplanet.net) > > > ==== ALBERTA Mailing List ==== > Search ALBERTA Mailing List Archives with the > Rootsweb Mailing List Interactive Search at > http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > >
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TNC.2ACI/1934.3 Message Board Post: You could try the following URL http://www.maptown.com/coordinates.html You can enter your NTS reference and get the position in northing and easting as well as latitude and longitude. It also shows a map reference. You can use this map reference to get to an online map of the area. I've done it but can't lay my hands on the exact URLs that I used. Hope this helps.
Hello. Its been a while and as we age the mind gets weaker. At least mine does <VBG> Any way would or could some one tell me again what would be the best book to find any info on my Marie Tremblay? Like would Catherine McDougalls death record give her mothers name? Catherine lived to close around 1900. Thank you. Viola.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TNC.2ACI/1934.2 Message Board Post: That land location is about half way between Camrose and Viking. If you have an Alberta map, there is Highway 26 between Camrose and Viking and if it shows Secondary Highways, your location is just a little bit north on 855. Contact me if I can be more help. Colleen
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/TNC.2ACI/1934.1 Message Board Post: Thank you so much for all of the replies! The nicest people in the world are all working on genealogy! I wish I had known this years ago!
Greetings All. As a result of a request to do so, and for the information of all, I have now placed on the Post 1901 Census Project website, Instructions to Officers and Enumerators of Census for almost every Census of Canada from 1871 to 1941. The only one missing is that for 1881. Access the Post 1901 Census Project website at the URL following my signature. Click 'Home Page' then 'Other sites'. Scroll down and click on the link for the Instructions. I am currently working on pages for reports of those attending the Town Hall meetings and will post a message when the first of these are up and running. On another note -- anyone being contacted to participate in Focus Groups should not admit to being involved in genealogical or historical research, or to belonging to an associated society. One person asked to participate, after attending, admitted to being an amateur genealogist. When responding positively to a question of her membership in a genealogy society she was escorted from the group and advised that she could not participate. So much for assurances from Statistics Canada that there were no restrictive conditions for participation in these endeavours. Happy Hunting. Gordon A. Watts gordon_watts@telus.net Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Port Coquitlam, BC http://globalgenealogy.com/Census en français http://globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index_f.htm