I'm afraid I don't see a connection to my Paynes. My gggrandfather Joseph Payne was born in 1808 in South Carolina, and died in 1880 in Alabama......betty n a message dated 00-08-01 18:59:12 EDT, you write: << descendants' chart of three generations down from my brick wall Joseph Payne. If anyone sees anything they can help me with, I would appreciate it more than you would ever know. What I listed below is right directly from my database, so what is there, is what I have on these people. Some of it is proven and some of it is not. Thanks, Judy Barrett Descendants of Joseph PAYNE 1. Joseph PAYNE (b.1819-Hawkinsville,Pulaski,Georgia;d.1868-Alabama) sp: Millie Jane THARP (b.25 Dec 1836-,,Georgia;m.Abt 1850;d.Jul 1895-Whitewater,Holmes,Florida) ( May have had a first wife)