Hi Homer.... Thanks so much for the information on Gilmore/Gilmer. The mixing of the names has been a point of confusion for some years now in family research. No muddying of the water, just a little more data to consider....maybe you can help me even further in sorting things out. This is what I am building on: 1. My William M. Gilmore/Gilmer is found in 1860 in "the Eastern Division of Pike County", Post Office, Brundidge, Date: Aug 15. 2. He lived next (or close) to his mother and stepfather, Malinda M. & Thomas J. Vance. 3. He was 22 years old (1860) 4. He had 1 child (my gr.grandfather), Mathew B., who was 2 months old 5. In 1870 his widow and 3 sons (born 1860,1862.1864) are found living in Perote with her father, Jacob R. Brooks 6. In 1870 Census I found his mother and stepfather in Bullock County, Bughall Beat No. 5, June 27 Still sorting........... Thanks again, John