I don't usually get involved in this type of discussion, but I TOTALLY AGREE with Lyn, let's get back to Barbour County, AL information. Looking for information on Jesse EARLY and David LESTER/LISTER and David's father William LESTER/LISTER Happy Digging, Frances Email me - whesta80@wheatstate.com or happydigging@cheerful.com Check out my web site: "Wars of Interest to American Researchers" http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/austen/239 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn Sherwood" <Fawnette@worldnet.att.net> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] Father Breboeuf > I believe there are several sites on Rootsweb that one can join if they are interested in Native American history, atrocities, slavery, crimes committed against them, by them, etc. > > I joined this particular site because I wanted to try to find my JOHNSON and DEAS ancestors, not to read about Native American stuff. I have Cherokee/Creek in my background (of which I am very proud), but I do not believe this is the forum to discuss that unless we are speaking of particular Native American families that lived in the Barbour County, AL area. > > Please can we get off all of this and get back on what we ALL enjoy - genealogy! > > Lyn McIntosh-Sherwood > Winter Park, FL > ----- Original Message ----- > From: M. Daniels > To: ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, July 17, 2000 12:24 AM > Subject: [ALBARBOU] Father Breboeuf > > > Martydom of Jean de Breboeuf > A Veritable Account of the Martydom and Blessed Death of Father Jean de > Breboeuf and of Father Gabriel L'Alemant, in New France, in the Country of > the Hurons, by the Iroquois, Enemies of the Faith > by Christophe Regnaut > This is what the savages old us of the taking of the Village of St. Ignace, > and about Fathers Jean de Breboeuf and Gabriel L'Allemant: > > "The Iroquois came, to the number of twelve hundred men; took our village, > and seized Father Breboeuf and his companion; and set fire to all the huts. > They proceeded to vent their rage on those two Fathers, for they took them > both and stripped them entirely naked, and fastened each to a post. They > tied both of their hands together. They tore the nails from the fingers. > They beat them with a shower of blows from cudgels, on the shoulders, the > loins, the belly, the legs and the face - there being no part of their body > which did not endure this torment." The savages told us further, that, > although Father de Breboeuf was overwhelmed under the weight of these blows, > he did not cease continually to speak of God, and to encourage all the new > Christians who were captives like himself to suffer well, that they might > die well, in order to go in company with him to Paradise. While the good > Father was thus encouraging these good people, a wretched huron renegade, - > who had remained a captive with the Iroquois, and whom Father de Breboeuf > had formerly instructed and baptized, - hearing him speak of Paradise and > Holy Baptism, was irritated, and said to him, "Echon", that is Father de > Breboeuf's name in Huron, "thou sayest that Baptism and the sufferings of > this life lead straight to Paradise; thou wilt go soon, for I am going to > baptize thee, and to make thee suffer well, in order to go the sooner to thy > Paradise." The barbarian, having said that, took a kettle full of boiling > water, which he poured over his body three different times, in derision of > Holy baptism. And, each time that he baptized him in this manner, the > barbarian said to him, with bitter sarcasm, "Go to Heaven, for thou art well > baptized." After that, they made him suffer several other torments. The 1st > was to make hatchets red-hot, and to apply them to the loins and under the > armpits. They made a collar of these red-hot hatchets, and put it on the > neck of this good Father. This is the fashion in which I have seen the > collar made for other prisoners: They make six hatchets red-hot, take a > large withe of green wood, pass the 6 hatchets over the large end of the > withe, take the two ends together, and then put it over the neck of the > sufferer. I have seen no torment which more moved me to compassion than > that. For you see a man, bound naked to a post, who, having this collar on > his neck, cannot tell what posture to take. For, if he lean forward, those > above his shoulders weigh the more on him; if he lean back, those on his > stomach make him suffer the same torment; if he keep erect, without leaning > to one side or the other, the burning hatchets, applied equally on both > sides, give him a double torture. > > After that they put on him a belt of bark, full of pitch and resin, and set > fire to it, which roasted his whole body. During all these torments, Father > de Breboeuf endured like a rock, insensible to fire and flames, which > astonished all the blood-thirsty wretches who tormented him. His zeal was so > great that he preached continually to these infidels, to try to convert > them. His executioners were enraged against him for constantly speaking to > them of God and of their conversions. To prevent him from speaking more, > they cut off his tongue, and both his upper and lower lips. After that, they > set themselves to strip the flesh from his legs, thighs and arms, to the > very bone; and then put it to roast before his eyes in order to eat it. > > While they tormented him in this manner, those wretches derided him, saying, > "Thou seest plainly that we treat thee as a friend, since we shall be the > cause of thy Eternal happiness; thank us, then, for these good offices which > we render thee, - for, the more thou shalt suffer, the more will thy God > reward thee." > > Those butchers, seeing that the good Father began to grow weak, made him sit > down on the ground; and one of them, taking a knife, cut off the skin > covering his skull. Another one of those barbarians, seeing that the good > Father would soon die, made an opening in the upper part of his chest, and > tore out his heart, which he roasted and ate. Others came to drink his > blood, still warm, which they drank with both hands, - saying that Father de > Breboeuf had been very courageous to endure so much pain as they had given > him, and that, by drinking his blood, they would become courageous like him. > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > Got a complaint, contact me not the list margie@majorinternet.com > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > Check the Macon County Ga. web site for their newspaper listings. There are many listings for Alabama citizens including those in Barbour Co.,