John, If you will give me what you have, I'll try and see what I can find. Deo Vindice, Homer

Might be true about staying off private property, but the cemetery is very public! So, therefore they HAVE to give you access. Bonnie >From: "Sabrina Hagler" <shagler1@bellsouth.net> >Reply-To: ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com >To: ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] Little Blue Springs >Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 14:11:51 -0500 > >I was told that it's according to if it's on private land or not. Any, >there >is not any graves there, just found out. >Sabrina >----- Original Message ----- >From: "M. Daniels" <margie@majorinternet.com> >To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 1:17 PM >Subject: [ALBARBOU] Little Blue Springs > > > > I don't think he can stop you. > > > > Help me out there, isn't it a law that he had to provide access to the > > cemetery. > > > > > > Margie > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob Austin" <Austinbl@bellsouth.net> > > To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 8:28 AM > > Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] Fw: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > > > > > > > Sabrina, > > > Thanks for the info. > > > Please call me on this toll free number: 1-888-600-9605. > > > If I am not home leave your number and I will call you back. > > > Thanks, > > > Bob > > > > > > Sabrina Hagler wrote: > > > > > > > Little Blue Springs is off cr 41 not 43. The land is now owned by >Donald > > > > Parmer and really does not want anyone going there (thats what he >told > > us > > > > before) but you want to try calling him anyway in case he changed >his > > mind. > > > > I have been there but never knew of any graves there. I will ask > > granddaddy > > > > to see. > > > > Sabrina > > > > P.S. > > > > If you'd like, I could call him to see for you > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "M. Daniels" <margie@majorinternet.com> > > > > To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 8:54 AM > > > > Subject: [ALBARBOU] Fw: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "cat jeffers" <catjeffers@hotmail.com> > > > > > To: <Austinbl@bellsouth.net> > > > > > Cc: <ALBARBOU-D@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:17 AM > > > > > Subject: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Little Blue Springs 3o yrs ago use to be on Co Rd #43 on Jesse >and > > Mary > > > > > > Helms Place joining T.C. Baxley place. This is where we had >baptizim > > for > > > > > > Anderson Baptist Church when my children were little. i have >been > > there > > > > > > several times you might check with "Miss" Mary Helms or S.Hagler >on > > this > > > > > > site might could tell you as i do not belong to that church any >more > > > > since > > > > > > divorce. If she can not i will get # and directions for you if >you > > would > > > > > > like. Just let me know i only live about 3 miles from there. > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > > > > The Barbour County mail list a place where Barbour researchers >have > > become > > > > friends in research across the miles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > > > Check the Macon County Ga. web site for their newspaper listings. >There > > are many listings for Alabama citizens including those in Barbour Co., > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > > This is a closed list and only subscribers will be allowed to post. >NO > > FLAMING, OBSCENE LANGUAGE OR DISRESPECT OF ANY KIND WILL BE TOLERATED. >No > > virus postings will be allowed. Got a complaint then contact me not the >list > > margie@majorinternet.com Good luck in your searches. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > Have you checked the Georgia Counties just across the river. Many of the >Barbour residents came from, Crawford, Taylor, Randolph, Macon, Stewart >Counties in Georgia just to mention a few. > > > > > > >==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== >Got a complaint, contact me not the list margie@majorinternet.com > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

I was told that it's according to if it's on private land or not. Any, there is not any graves there, just found out. Sabrina ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Daniels" <margie@majorinternet.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 1:17 PM Subject: [ALBARBOU] Little Blue Springs > I don't think he can stop you. > > Help me out there, isn't it a law that he had to provide access to the > cemetery. > > > Margie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Austin" <Austinbl@bellsouth.net> > To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 8:28 AM > Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] Fw: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > > > > Sabrina, > > Thanks for the info. > > Please call me on this toll free number: 1-888-600-9605. > > If I am not home leave your number and I will call you back. > > Thanks, > > Bob > > > > Sabrina Hagler wrote: > > > > > Little Blue Springs is off cr 41 not 43. The land is now owned by Donald > > > Parmer and really does not want anyone going there (thats what he told > us > > > before) but you want to try calling him anyway in case he changed his > mind. > > > I have been there but never knew of any graves there. I will ask > granddaddy > > > to see. > > > Sabrina > > > P.S. > > > If you'd like, I could call him to see for you > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "M. Daniels" <margie@majorinternet.com> > > > To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 8:54 AM > > > Subject: [ALBARBOU] Fw: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "cat jeffers" <catjeffers@hotmail.com> > > > > To: <Austinbl@bellsouth.net> > > > > Cc: <ALBARBOU-D@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:17 AM > > > > Subject: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > > > > > > > > > > > > > Little Blue Springs 3o yrs ago use to be on Co Rd #43 on Jesse and > Mary > > > > > Helms Place joining T.C. Baxley place. This is where we had baptizim > for > > > > > Anderson Baptist Church when my children were little. i have been > there > > > > > several times you might check with "Miss" Mary Helms or S.Hagler on > this > > > > > site might could tell you as i do not belong to that church any more > > > since > > > > > divorce. If she can not i will get # and directions for you if you > would > > > > > like. Just let me know i only live about 3 miles from there. > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > > > The Barbour County mail list a place where Barbour researchers have > become > > > friends in research across the miles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > > Check the Macon County Ga. web site for their newspaper listings. There > are many listings for Alabama citizens including those in Barbour Co., > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > This is a closed list and only subscribers will be allowed to post. NO > FLAMING, OBSCENE LANGUAGE OR DISRESPECT OF ANY KIND WILL BE TOLERATED. No > virus postings will be allowed. Got a complaint then contact me not the list > margie@majorinternet.com Good luck in your searches. > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > Have you checked the Georgia Counties just across the river. Many of the Barbour residents came from, Crawford, Taylor, Randolph, Macon, Stewart Counties in Georgia just to mention a few. > >

I don't think he can stop you. Help me out there, isn't it a law that he had to provide access to the cemetery. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Austin" <Austinbl@bellsouth.net> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] Fw: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > Sabrina, > Thanks for the info. > Please call me on this toll free number: 1-888-600-9605. > If I am not home leave your number and I will call you back. > Thanks, > Bob > > Sabrina Hagler wrote: > > > Little Blue Springs is off cr 41 not 43. The land is now owned by Donald > > Parmer and really does not want anyone going there (thats what he told us > > before) but you want to try calling him anyway in case he changed his mind. > > I have been there but never knew of any graves there. I will ask granddaddy > > to see. > > Sabrina > > P.S. > > If you'd like, I could call him to see for you > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "M. Daniels" <margie@majorinternet.com> > > To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 8:54 AM > > Subject: [ALBARBOU] Fw: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "cat jeffers" <catjeffers@hotmail.com> > > > To: <Austinbl@bellsouth.net> > > > Cc: <ALBARBOU-D@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:17 AM > > > Subject: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > > > > > > > > > > Little Blue Springs 3o yrs ago use to be on Co Rd #43 on Jesse and Mary > > > > Helms Place joining T.C. Baxley place. This is where we had baptizim for > > > > Anderson Baptist Church when my children were little. i have been there > > > > several times you might check with "Miss" Mary Helms or S.Hagler on this > > > > site might could tell you as i do not belong to that church any more > > since > > > > divorce. If she can not i will get # and directions for you if you would > > > > like. Just let me know i only live about 3 miles from there. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > > The Barbour County mail list a place where Barbour researchers have become > > friends in research across the miles. > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > Check the Macon County Ga. web site for their newspaper listings. There are many listings for Alabama citizens including those in Barbour Co., > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > This is a closed list and only subscribers will be allowed to post. NO FLAMING, OBSCENE LANGUAGE OR DISRESPECT OF ANY KIND WILL BE TOLERATED. No virus postings will be allowed. Got a complaint then contact me not the list margie@majorinternet.com Good luck in your searches. > >

I live in Clayton on County Shop Rd but my parents, grandparents, and great grandparents live on Chaney Brach Rd (dirt road) just off 41, not to far from Corinth. This is where I grew up and learned all about farming and doing mechanic work with my granddaddy Rev. Samuel S. Baker. I have been at Anderson Baptist Church all week for Vacation Bible School and man am I ever glad that it's over (until another one next week). This willmake the 5th one since June. Sabrina ----- Original Message ----- From: <ALABAMABTRFLY@aol.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] Fw: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > Sabrina, > I went to the Corinth cemetery Tuesday...looked for your house, did not > find it > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > Have you checked the Georgia Counties just across the river. Many of the Barbour residents came from, Crawford, Taylor, Randolph, Macon, Stewart Counties in Georgia just to mention a few. > >

Bob and all, The land owner has been in the feild everytime I have called but my grandaddy sees him almost every day and he is going to ask for me. He said he never knew of any graves there but will ask anyway. Anderson's VBS has finished today (thannk goodness) so no more running after youngins that aren't mine. I will let the list know what I or my granddaddy finds out. Take care, Sabrina ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Austin" <Austinbl@bellsouth.net> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] Fw: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > Sabrina, > Thanks for the info. > Please call me on this toll free number: 1-888-600-9605. > If I am not home leave your number and I will call you back. > Thanks, > Bob > > Sabrina Hagler wrote: > > > Little Blue Springs is off cr 41 not 43. The land is now owned by Donald > > Parmer and really does not want anyone going there (thats what he told us > > before) but you want to try calling him anyway in case he changed his mind. > > I have been there but never knew of any graves there. I will ask granddaddy > > to see. > > Sabrina > > P.S. > > If you'd like, I could call him to see for you > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "M. Daniels" <margie@majorinternet.com> > > To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 8:54 AM > > Subject: [ALBARBOU] Fw: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "cat jeffers" <catjeffers@hotmail.com> > > > To: <Austinbl@bellsouth.net> > > > Cc: <ALBARBOU-D@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:17 AM > > > Subject: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > > > > > > > > > > Little Blue Springs 3o yrs ago use to be on Co Rd #43 on Jesse and Mary > > > > Helms Place joining T.C. Baxley place. This is where we had baptizim for > > > > Anderson Baptist Church when my children were little. i have been there > > > > several times you might check with "Miss" Mary Helms or S.Hagler on this > > > > site might could tell you as i do not belong to that church any more > > since > > > > divorce. If she can not i will get # and directions for you if you would > > > > like. Just let me know i only live about 3 miles from there. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > > The Barbour County mail list a place where Barbour researchers have become > > friends in research across the miles. > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > Check the Macon County Ga. web site for their newspaper listings. There are many listings for Alabama citizens including those in Barbour Co., > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > This is a closed list and only subscribers will be allowed to post. NO FLAMING, OBSCENE LANGUAGE OR DISRESPECT OF ANY KIND WILL BE TOLERATED. No virus postings will be allowed. Got a complaint then contact me not the list margie@majorinternet.com Good luck in your searches. > >

Hi Homer, Yes 'tis true....my GrGrGrandfather, Willilam Marion Gilmore did not make it back; also his records are rather confusing (what little bit I have obtained). His widow received a pension but did not seem clear at all (according to applications) about his regiment(s)...... Thanks for your continued work. JohnGilmer

The paragraph below contains a very important sentence which I've copied below for point of discussion - I added the words in brackets for clarity. > Among those unmarked graves [at Warr Hill Cemetery] is probably John >Warr and Nancy Ann Bass, the parents of Sylvester. As a descendant and long time researcher of the John WARR family, I have not seen the proof of the maiden name of Nancy, John's wife. As far as I've been able to determine, Winfred Horne of Clayton, (Barbour Co), AL speculated many years ago that her maiden name was BASS. However, all of the work I've seen that he did always has a question mark by the name BASS. In my own research I've been able to prove add'l info on the WARR family but proof of Nancy's maiden name has remained a stumbling block for me. I've long suspected the answer might lie in some unpublished family document and am very excited to see that her maiden name has been proven. Please share the proof. I have posted this to the list because I know there are others who are interested in this also. Thanks. Claire On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:29:09 -0500, "Jerry & Norma Segars" wrote: Text Deleted >> >> The Fuqua lady buried there is Dicy Warr, daughter of Sylvester Warr and >Parisade Benton. Sylvester and Parisade are buried there also in marked >graves. Parisade was the daughter of Samuel and Sarah Benton. There are many >graves marked by field stones. Among those unmarked graves is probably John >Warr and Nancy Ann Bass, the parents of Sylvester. >> Text Deleted

Willie, Is the book of church records for all churches in Alabama or just Barbour Co.? Thank you, Evelyn

Would you mind looking to see if there are any Glover or Hodges listed. Really appreciate it. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie" <wwwbutts@prodigy.net> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] Church Records of Southeast Al. > Yes, Margie > I have the book, Church Records of Southeast Ala. > Willie in California > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: M. Daniels <margie@majorinternet.com> > To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 5:37 PM > Subject: [ALBARBOU] Church Records of Southeast Al. > > > > Does anyone have this book? > > > > Margie > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Willie" <wwwbutts@prodigy.net> > > To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 1:12 AM > > Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] Missing Church Records > > > > > > > Richard > > > The church records of Hebron Primitive Baptist Church, Corinth > Primitive > > > Baptist Church, and Bethel Primitive Baptist Church, along with their > > > cemetery inscriptions are published in the "Church Records of Southeast > > > Alabama" Vol.#1, Compiled by Lavinia Jordan Helms. There are many other > > > churches in southeastern Alabama included in Lavinia's book. > > > Her address is; Lavinia Jordan Helms > > > 103 Lakewood Drive > > > Enterprise, Al. 36330 > > > Phone; 334-347-6150 > > > She still has a few copies left. She has enough information for > another > > > book if the appears to be enough interest in one. > > > > Willie > > > in California > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <Richardbprice@aol.com> > > > To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 7:00 AM > > > Subject: [ALBARBOU] Missing Church Records > > > > > > > > > > Terri. > > > > > > > > Barbour County doesn't seem to have an abundance of publicly available > > > church > > > > records, especially as compared to other counties I have seen. Pike > Co. > > > has > > > > a very good selection of local church records. Pike has several > volumes > > > of > > > > records from Beulah Primitive Baptist Church which was established by > > the > > > > Pugh family. I don't know where to start with respect to getting > these > > > > church records in Barbour Co. to surface. I would love to see records > > > such > > > > as Mt. Aerial, Palmyra, Mt. Serene, Antioch Baptist, Faulk Methodist, > > etc. > > > I > > > > am sure many are these are no longer available but it is hard to > believe > > > they > > > > have all vanished. I wonder if some of these records may be purposely > > > hidden > > > > away in order to try to protect someone's character or integrity. > > > According > > > > to the records, my GG Grand, William Washington Pugh, was kicked out > of > > > the > > > > pulpit at Bethsaida Church for "the crime of indulging excessively in > > > > intoxicating drink." This is another example where some family > members > > > may > > > > be aghast at this revelation and not want it to become public. I say > it > > > > makes the man human and I am no less proud of my heritage as a result. > > By > > > > the way, he was reinstated after a proper statement was made to the > > > > congregation. I find this stuff fascinating. How it about folks, > > Anyone > > > > know of any old church records stashed away in Grandma's attic? > > > > > > > > My line of Pughs are different from James Lawrence. At least we > haven't > > > > proven any connection yet. James Lawrence Pugh's line came to Barbour > > > > through GA and my line came from SC through TN, Conecuh Co., AL, Pike, > > > Macon > > > > and Barbour. I am from brothers Lewis and Jesse Pugh, sons of > > Willoughby > > > > Pugh Jr. Jesse became a well established Pike Co. pioneer and Lewis > was > > > > killed by Indians either in Macon Co. or at his Monticello plantation > > near > > > > Hobdy's Bridge, depending on which story one believes. > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > SOS 6-3 > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > > > Check the Macon County Ga. web site for their newspaper listings. > There > > > are many listings for Alabama citizens including those in Barbour Co., > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > > The Barbour County mail list a place where Barbour researchers have > become > > friends in research across the miles. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > Barbou County is a relaxed mail list. Feel free to discuss Barbour County > and the surrounding counties genealogy and feel free to thank someone or ask > about another's well being. > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > This is a closed list and only subscribers will be allowed to post. NO FLAMING, OBSCENE LANGUAGE OR DISRESPECT OF ANY KIND WILL BE TOLERATED. No virus postings will be allowed. Got a complaint then contact me not the list margie@majorinternet.com Good luck in your searches. > >

Sabrina, I went to the Corinth cemetery Tuesday...looked for your house, did not find it

>From what the Police Dept.has stated here, you have all rights to any cemetery, no matter who's property it is located on. No one owns ANY land that the cemetery plot whatsoever! They also have to give you a right of way to it. Thanks, Bonnie >From: "M. Daniels" <margie@majorinternet.com> >Reply-To: ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com >To: ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ALBARBOU] Little Blue Springs >Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 13:17:52 -0500 > >I don't think he can stop you. > >Help me out there, isn't it a law that he had to provide access to the >cemetery. > > >Margie >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bob Austin" <Austinbl@bellsouth.net> >To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 8:28 AM >Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] Fw: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > > > > Sabrina, > > Thanks for the info. > > Please call me on this toll free number: 1-888-600-9605. > > If I am not home leave your number and I will call you back. > > Thanks, > > Bob > > > > Sabrina Hagler wrote: > > > > > Little Blue Springs is off cr 41 not 43. The land is now owned by >Donald > > > Parmer and really does not want anyone going there (thats what he told >us > > > before) but you want to try calling him anyway in case he changed his >mind. > > > I have been there but never knew of any graves there. I will ask >granddaddy > > > to see. > > > Sabrina > > > P.S. > > > If you'd like, I could call him to see for you > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "M. Daniels" <margie@majorinternet.com> > > > To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 8:54 AM > > > Subject: [ALBARBOU] Fw: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "cat jeffers" <catjeffers@hotmail.com> > > > > To: <Austinbl@bellsouth.net> > > > > Cc: <ALBARBOU-D@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:17 AM > > > > Subject: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > > > > > > > > > > > > > Little Blue Springs 3o yrs ago use to be on Co Rd #43 on Jesse and >Mary > > > > > Helms Place joining T.C. Baxley place. This is where we had >baptizim >for > > > > > Anderson Baptist Church when my children were little. i have been >there > > > > > several times you might check with "Miss" Mary Helms or S.Hagler >on >this > > > > > site might could tell you as i do not belong to that church any >more > > > since > > > > > divorce. If she can not i will get # and directions for you if you >would > > > > > like. Just let me know i only live about 3 miles from there. > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > > > The Barbour County mail list a place where Barbour researchers have >become > > > friends in research across the miles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > > Check the Macon County Ga. web site for their newspaper listings. >There >are many listings for Alabama citizens including those in Barbour Co., > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > This is a closed list and only subscribers will be allowed to post. NO >FLAMING, OBSCENE LANGUAGE OR DISRESPECT OF ANY KIND WILL BE TOLERATED. No >virus postings will be allowed. Got a complaint then contact me not the >list >margie@majorinternet.com Good luck in your searches. > > > > > > >==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== >Have you checked the Georgia Counties just across the river. Many of the >Barbour residents came from, Crawford, Taylor, Randolph, Macon, Stewart >Counties in Georgia just to mention a few. > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Sabrina, Thanks for the info. Please call me on this toll free number: 1-888-600-9605. If I am not home leave your number and I will call you back. Thanks, Bob Sabrina Hagler wrote: > Little Blue Springs is off cr 41 not 43. The land is now owned by Donald > Parmer and really does not want anyone going there (thats what he told us > before) but you want to try calling him anyway in case he changed his mind. > I have been there but never knew of any graves there. I will ask granddaddy > to see. > Sabrina > P.S. > If you'd like, I could call him to see for you > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "M. Daniels" <margie@majorinternet.com> > To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 8:54 AM > Subject: [ALBARBOU] Fw: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "cat jeffers" <catjeffers@hotmail.com> > > To: <Austinbl@bellsouth.net> > > Cc: <ALBARBOU-D@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 7:17 AM > > Subject: {not a subscriber} Little Blue Springs > > > > > > > Little Blue Springs 3o yrs ago use to be on Co Rd #43 on Jesse and Mary > > > Helms Place joining T.C. Baxley place. This is where we had baptizim for > > > Anderson Baptist Church when my children were little. i have been there > > > several times you might check with "Miss" Mary Helms or S.Hagler on this > > > site might could tell you as i do not belong to that church any more > since > > > divorce. If she can not i will get # and directions for you if you would > > > like. Just let me know i only live about 3 miles from there. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > The Barbour County mail list a place where Barbour researchers have become > friends in research across the miles. > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > Check the Macon County Ga. web site for their newspaper listings. There are many listings for Alabama citizens including those in Barbour Co.,

The Pike County Genealogical Society published a list of all cemeteries (with an associated map) and lists the names from the tombstones. Is there a similar map of cemeteries, list of cemeteries, and who is buried there for Barbour County? Bob Austin

Willie, Thank you for your prompt and very informative response... S.K. and Rhoda Shirah were my mother's grandparents. I have visited the church grounds and cemetery in years past. In fact, I made a picture of Rhoda's tombstone while it was broken. Their grandson, Bennett Teal, now deceased, had the tombstone repaired. For that, I am very grateful. ....Yes, I definitely want to get one of the books...Thanks again...... Betty The church is located in the south central section of Barbour County, which indicates that it is the church of which you write. There is a short history and then the constitution and then a Roll of Church Members indicating their status of leaving . I see a Solomon Shirah as a member who was excluded. That was circa Jan. 5th, 1861. The records of the church are given in dates such as May 9, 1835. Business included the reception of members, choosing of deacons and clerk(by name), etc. Minutes of the church are included. The records are presented about bi-monthly from 1835 to 1944, though not always that often in the later years. Mrs. Helms chose to include only the most interesting highlights of the later years. Altogether there are a total of 118 pages (8x11") of Bethel Primitive church records. S.K. Shirah (b.Oct. 1, 1818, d. Feb. 27, 1898) was church clerk for a long time during that time and is buried in the cemetery with 4 other Shirahs, including his wife, Rhodia (b. Aug. 9, 1836, d. Sept. 13, 1916) and 2 of A.S.K. Shirah's children, Gussie Arlevia (b. Feb. 26, 1892, d. Apr. 21`, 1893) daughter of A.S.K. and E.E. and Bertie Lee (daughter of A.S.K. and E.E.)b. Jan. 13, 1894, d. Sept. 18, 1898. Plus George Williams, Son of S.K. and Rhoda, (b. Apr. 3, 1878, d. Dec. 17, 1897) There is over a column of Shirah/Shirar/Shire ( at least 36 different given names) listed in the index with S.K. Shirah alone listed on at least 36 pages of the records. >>

Bob, The only published compilation of cemetery surveys in Barbour County is nearly 40 years old. It is available at Eufaula's Carneige Library. Several individuals, including myself have attempted to survey as many cemeteries as possible, but my full time job keeps getting in my way. Most of the ones we have surveyed are posted on the Barbour Site. If you have any lookups in particular just post them here and one of us will help you out if possible. Richard Price SOS 6-3

Hi Betty, The church is located in the south central section of Barbour County, which indicates that it is the church of which you write. There is a short history and then the constitution and then a Roll of Church Members indicating their status of leaving . I see a Solomon Shirah as a member who was excluded. That was circa Jan. 5th, 1861. The records of the church are given in dates such as May 9, 1835. Business included the reception of members, choosing of deacons and clerk(by name), etc. Minutes of the church are included. The records are presented about bi-monthly from 1835 to 1944, though not always that often in the later years. Mrs. Helms chose to include only the most interesting highlights of the later years. Altogether there are a total of 118 pages (8x11") of Bethel Primitive church records. S.K. Shirah (b.Oct. 1, 1818, d. Feb. 27, 1898) was church clerk for a long time during that time and is buried in the cemetery with 4 other Shirahs, including his wife, Rhodia (b. Aug. 9, 1836, d. Sept. 13, 1916) and 2 of A.S.K. Shirah's children, Gussie Arlevia (b. Feb. 26, 1892, d. Apr. 21`, 1893) daughter of A.S.K. and E.E. and Bertie Lee (daughter of A.S.K. and E.E.)b. Jan. 13, 1894, d. Sept. 18, 1898. Plus George Williams, Son of S.K. and Rhoda, (b. Apr. 3, 1878, d. Dec. 17, 1897) There is over a column of Shirah/Shirar/Shire ( at least 36 different given names) listed in the index with S.K. Shirah alone listed on at least 36 pages of the records. The records show baptisms and inscriptions from the cemetery gravestones. You might wish to purchase the book since your family is so well represented in it. If so, the address is; Mrs. Lavinia Jordan Helms 103 Lakewood Drive Enterprise, Al. 36330 Phone; 334-347-6150 If Mrs. Helms sells all of this book then she is thinking of doing a second volume, since she has materials enough already for a second volume. I hope this helps and I am glad SOMEONE is finding THEIR Barbour County kin.<grin> Peace and Grace; Willie in California ----- Original Message ----- From: <SidneyV1@aol.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] Church Records of Southeast Al. > In a message dated 00-07-20 00:33:41 EDT, you write: > > << > Yes, Margie > I have the book, Church Records of Southeast Ala. > Willie in California > >> > Willie... I'm wondering how much information is given about Bethel Primitive > Baptist Church. Is it a history of the church? Copies of the minutes? > Cemetery census? > Also, does it tell where the church is located? Is it near Blue Springs? > I apologize for asking so many questions. However, my Shirah ancestors were > members of what was known as the Church at Bethel, in the mid and late 1800s. > I think it is now known as Old Bethel Primitive Baptist Church. It is located > near Blue Springs. I wonder if it is the same church that is listed in the > book. > Thank you for any information you might give me.............Betty > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > Have you checked the Georgia Counties just across the river. Many of the Barbour residents came from, Crawford, Taylor, Randolph, Macon, Stewart Counties in Georgia just to mention a few. >

Margie, I purchased the book, but sent it to a Bass descendant, since it mentioned her Allen Bass in the church records, it would have been too much for me to copy for her, i'll let you know as soon as I get it back, if you havent purchased it by then. Thanks, Bonnie >From: MRipke@aol.com >Reply-To: ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com >To: ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] Church Records of Southeast Al. >Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 05:22:02 EDT > >In a message dated 7/20/00 3:59:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >wwwbutts@prodigy.net writes: > ><< You might wish to purchase the book since your family is so well >represented > in it. > If so, the address is; Mrs. Lavinia Jordan Helms > 103 Lakewood Drive > Enterprise, Al. 36330 > Phone; 334-347-6150 > >> > >Willie, Thanks for the information on the Shirah family....S.K. Shirah was >my >g grandfather (yes Betty & I are 1st cousins). Could you please give me the >cost of the book & any shipping charge. >Thanks, Maggie > > >==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== >This is a closed list and only subscribers will be allowed to post. NO >FLAMING, OBSCENE LANGUAGE OR DISRESPECT OF ANY KIND WILL BE TOLERATED. No >virus postings will be allowed. Got a complaint then contact me not the >list margie@majorinternet.com Good luck in your searches. > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

In a message dated 7/20/00 3:59:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wwwbutts@prodigy.net writes: << You might wish to purchase the book since your family is so well represented in it. If so, the address is; Mrs. Lavinia Jordan Helms 103 Lakewood Drive Enterprise, Al. 36330 Phone; 334-347-6150 >> Willie, Thanks for the information on the Shirah family....S.K. Shirah was my g grandfather (yes Betty & I are 1st cousins). Could you please give me the cost of the book & any shipping charge. Thanks, Maggie

Yes, Margie I have the book, Church Records of Southeast Ala. Willie in California ----- Original Message ----- From: M. Daniels <margie@majorinternet.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 5:37 PM Subject: [ALBARBOU] Church Records of Southeast Al. > Does anyone have this book? > > Margie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Willie" <wwwbutts@prodigy.net> > To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 1:12 AM > Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] Missing Church Records > > > > Richard > > The church records of Hebron Primitive Baptist Church, Corinth Primitive > > Baptist Church, and Bethel Primitive Baptist Church, along with their > > cemetery inscriptions are published in the "Church Records of Southeast > > Alabama" Vol.#1, Compiled by Lavinia Jordan Helms. There are many other > > churches in southeastern Alabama included in Lavinia's book. > > Her address is; Lavinia Jordan Helms > > 103 Lakewood Drive > > Enterprise, Al. 36330 > > Phone; 334-347-6150 > > She still has a few copies left. She has enough information for another > > book if the appears to be enough interest in one. > > Willie > > in California > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Richardbprice@aol.com> > > To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 7:00 AM > > Subject: [ALBARBOU] Missing Church Records > > > > > > > Terri. > > > > > > Barbour County doesn't seem to have an abundance of publicly available > > church > > > records, especially as compared to other counties I have seen. Pike Co. > > has > > > a very good selection of local church records. Pike has several volumes > > of > > > records from Beulah Primitive Baptist Church which was established by > the > > > Pugh family. I don't know where to start with respect to getting these > > > church records in Barbour Co. to surface. I would love to see records > > such > > > as Mt. Aerial, Palmyra, Mt. Serene, Antioch Baptist, Faulk Methodist, > etc. > > I > > > am sure many are these are no longer available but it is hard to believe > > they > > > have all vanished. I wonder if some of these records may be purposely > > hidden > > > away in order to try to protect someone's character or integrity. > > According > > > to the records, my GG Grand, William Washington Pugh, was kicked out of > > the > > > pulpit at Bethsaida Church for "the crime of indulging excessively in > > > intoxicating drink." This is another example where some family members > > may > > > be aghast at this revelation and not want it to become public. I say it > > > makes the man human and I am no less proud of my heritage as a result. > By > > > the way, he was reinstated after a proper statement was made to the > > > congregation. I find this stuff fascinating. How it about folks, > Anyone > > > know of any old church records stashed away in Grandma's attic? > > > > > > My line of Pughs are different from James Lawrence. At least we haven't > > > proven any connection yet. James Lawrence Pugh's line came to Barbour > > > through GA and my line came from SC through TN, Conecuh Co., AL, Pike, > > Macon > > > and Barbour. I am from brothers Lewis and Jesse Pugh, sons of > Willoughby > > > Pugh Jr. Jesse became a well established Pike Co. pioneer and Lewis was > > > killed by Indians either in Macon Co. or at his Monticello plantation > near > > > Hobdy's Bridge, depending on which story one believes. > > > > > > Richard > > > SOS 6-3 > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > > Check the Macon County Ga. web site for their newspaper listings. There > > are many listings for Alabama citizens including those in Barbour Co., > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > The Barbour County mail list a place where Barbour researchers have become > friends in research across the miles. > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > Barbou County is a relaxed mail list. Feel free to discuss Barbour County and the surrounding counties genealogy and feel free to thank someone or ask about another's well being. >