Had not occurred to me before now, but there is a Sons of Confederate Veterans (SCV) Camp in Eufaula; my old Camp in Ozark before it relocated to Eufaula; I don't know who the Camp Commander is, but if someone local could do a bit of pokeing around, might find some help there, with many Confederate soldiers known to be in some of these endangered cemeteries; the name is Lt Robt D.B. Griggs Camp, SCV, Eufaula. Deo Vindice, Homer

Margie, I myself have talked to several people that have family buried in these small family cemeteries, I know that on at least 2 occassions I have heard these words "yeah, that cemetery is back in them woods over yonder, but it aint in good shape since Granddaddy passed away, he's buried up there too! Also, this is some located on the map,and some that are not,old family,forgotten cemeteries I have been to.Over half of them still have family living and very close I might add: 38 that are horrible, over half of them have family and of age to clean them, maybe they just weren't taken to the cemeteries at a young age through the years and shown the importance of the upkeep that should be done to them as I was, but whatever the reason I feel from my discussions with them, there is just no interest whatsoever because they are dead and gone. If anyone feels I am wrong on this, then start going to the woods to these old cemeteries,then go to the houses around them,mainly to the nearest house, then you will find out I am right.Some you go to an elder will come to the door, but then in and out are the grandkids, or kids that could do it for them. I work full time moving mobile homes, I have two children ages 12 and 18 I have a home to keep up.I have my family graves to keep up,I have things I like to do such as go to the movies on the weekend with my 12yr.old,searching for cemeteries after work with her or Sabrina everyday of the week till dark, and this is what I have gotten done, so no one can say they dont have time(Although I agree it should not come between family time, especially if they are not interested in it). The Tucker cemetery:All trees cut down that need to be out, leaving an open area for me to replace the fence and put the signs up as soon as the ancestors let me know exactly what they want on it).The live in other states and have searched for this cemetery for years,so they have made many attempts to find this one and do the upkeep on it,this being two different ancestors of two different Tucker brothers. Sandy Point cemetery: Went in and stood two buried stones back up, one that can be read, one that you can only see the word Sarah on,but oh well, maybe someone will come along and know her.Along with many of the Harrisons in it that have stones that have replaced the old wooden markers in it. I also got in touch with someone that will help me fix up the Danner cemetery. Along with that, I am compiling a map book of all the little cemeteries I have been to and their exact locations. Also a headstone photo book consisting of ever headstone in Barbour which is now approx.10 inches thick.With over 85 cemeteries in it so far. A historical marker book with photos of what the markers are pertaining to. So, as for time, it only takes an hour out of a day to do some of the things I have mentioned. If anyone sees a small cemetery stop, pick up something that dont belong in it, throw it over the fence, or pick up a marker and at least prop it up on a rock or something so it doesn't get buried in the earth. If you live out of town call people up that you know could go to these cemeteries, or any cemetery , it doesnt have to be your family,just any family,and say hey, how bout checking on it for me,see how it looks and do a bit of weedeating while your there,that would help a great deal. Well, maybe this is too long and too boring, but I had to get my two cents in. Thanks, Bonnie Tharpe >From: "M. Daniels" <margie@majorinternet.com> >Reply-To: ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com >To: ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ALBARBOU] Cemetery Preservation >Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:11:32 -0500 > >Well now, > >I live in Memphis Tennessee and you are in Chicago. I travel to Barbour >County at least 4 times a year and have relatives that live there and I >got involved with this HOT new genealogy thing 26 years ago. > >I have to disagree with you. There is not only a big problem in Barbour >County but other counties and states as well. > >You are right in the fact that the land was bought but wrong in the fact >that there are no descendents that care the fact is that many descendents >cannot find the cemeteries because they are now on private property, over >grown and cannot be located. YOU would think that the person owning the >land would have enough respect for those that had gone before him to at >least cut the grass, since they knew the cemetery was on the property when >they bought it. What about those cemeteries now on Meade one of the >biggest paper manufacturers in the world. Some are even behind locked >gates >so there is no access for family. > >I have to disagree with you there are many, many cemeteries in this >condition. >I am still trying to find where my Glover family is buried they were among >the first settlers to come to Barbour County. > >Besides all of that if it were one cemetery it is one too many. > >Some of these cemeteries are so bad that I would not dare go there in the >summer, too snaky, will only attempt it in the winter. My cousin was snake >bite cleaning an old cemetery. > >Margie >CC Barbour County > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <cfurth@ibm.com> >To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 9:56 PM >Subject: [ALBARBOU] Cemetery Preservation > > > > > > I have read the conversation about the cemeteries in Barbour Co with > > interest. I don't think the problem of untended cemeteries is as > > widespread as the picture that is being painted. > > The people who live in Barbour County are generally attentive to > > the cemeteries in which their relatives are buried. The cemeteries > > associated with active churches are well tended by church members. > > In smaller churches, everyone helps unless they are physically unable. > > The larger cemeteries (& many smaller ones) have committees - people > > from the associated church, supported by public donations, who care > > for them. Periodically, you will see a notice in the Barbour > > newspapers reminding people to send in their donations. I also know > > of family cemeteries on private property that are being well > > maintained by descendants today. > > The problems occur with small family cemeteries where there are > > no family members living nearby to provide care and with the > > cemeteries associated with a church which is no longer active. The > > number of family cemeteries on private property increased as land was > > sold out of the family. As roads and transportation improved during > > the 1900s, the number of inactive churches increased with people > > moving memberships to the larger churches. In some cases these > > cemeteries became overgrown because there were no descendants who even > > knew of their existence until genealogy became a hot hobby. > > Care of these specific untended cemeteries is a real problem, > > primarily because there is no one to assume the responsibility there. > > It seems to me that would be a good project for a genealogical society > > to oversee. Clearly, the responsibility will be more effective if it > > is assumed by an organization that will exist 25,...100 years from > > now. > > Claire > > Chicago > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > Got a complaint, contact me not the list margie@majorinternet.com > > > > > > >==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== >The Barbour County mail list a place where Barbour researchers have become >friends in research across the miles. > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Cal, You are welcome to use anything I post and if you need any other details on Turner Howell, I would be happy to supply them. Richard SOS 6-3

Margie, I will try to run down Margaret Russell's number for you. It is not listed in the book under her name. Betty Vann is on this list and I bet she knows it. Richard SOS 6-3

Margie, Bonnie, Terri, There are well over 200 burial sites in Barbour County. I have visited approximately 130 myself. Of the cemeteries I have visited or otherwise have personal knowledge of, the twelve listed below are the ones I see should be classified as endangered. By that I mean they are being consumed by the elements of nature, and/or the destruction by man. I am quite sure that Bonnie has several she can add to this list too. · McCormick Family Cemetery, aka Old Faulk Cemetery. James K. Faulk also known as "Red" James Faulk is interred her, however his marker had been removed. He was a true Barbour Co. pioneer, arriving here about 1819, well before the County was formed. · Bennett or Bennett-Lee Cemetery. Barbour Co. pioneer William Grubbs Sr., who arrived here about 1832-1833 is buried here. · Blair-Bishop. This cemetery is deteriorating rapidly. · Cunningham Cemetery, (sometimes associated with Palmyra Church). McLeods are common names found here. · Beauchamp Cemetery. Supposedly hold the gravesite of the first known white settler of Barbour Co., Green Beauchamp. There is no marker for him at this site. · Ephesus Cemetery, aka Cunningham. Very sad shape the last time I was there about 1 ½ years ago. · Farrior Cemetery. The last time I was there, you could not even access the plot due to the growth. · Perkins-Evans Cemetery. The front part near the road is not in too bad of shape but the further back you go, the worse it gets. · Thornton Cemetery. In a few short years you probably will not be able to tell there was ever a cemetery there. · Johns Cemetery. I have not visited this burial site but have been told that it was almost detroyed by grazing cattle and bushhogs. · New Bethel Cemetery. Believed to be a black cemetery, it has been completely abandoned. · Roquemore Cemetery. Almost lost to nature. The following cemeteries are in relatively decent shape most of the time but have experienced periods of neglect. Some of these cemeteries should be candidates for historical sites. This would be considered my "watch" list. I am sure Bonnie has some to add to this too. · Beasley Cemetery. I haven't been there in a while but it looked a little rugged last time I checked. · Dansby Family Cemetery. Although his grave is not marked, Barbour Co. pioneer John B. Dansby is buried here. · Mt. Aerial Church Cemetery. This isolated cemetery and church, although no longer used, are presently very well kept. Not usage sometimes eventually results in neglect. William Grubbs Jr. is believed to be buried here. · Providence Cemetery. When it looks good, it looks good. When it looks bad, it looks bad. · Jones Cemetery. Although enclosed by concrete block, it sometimes needs attention. ==================================================== Richard Price SOS 6-3

Hi Doris, No, I am sorry but I am not connected to the Flowers family. Would that I were since I am sure I would have more luck finding them than my own elusive folks.<g> Peace and Grace; Willie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dkrofla@aol.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 5:34 PM Subject: Re: Fw: {not a subscriber} Re: [ALBARBOU] Church Records of Southeast Al. > Hi Willie I was reading your request on a Flowers. My GGGrandfather Richard > Flowers married Lucinda Graves in Pike Co., Al, 24 Jan 1836. I have a file on > the Flowers that I got from the Family History Center, Latter Day Saints. Are > you connected to this line. > > > Doris > Clermont > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > Got a complaint, contact me not the list margie@majorinternet.com >

OK. Let me know if you get this and how many times. Margie

Well now, I live in Memphis Tennessee and you are in Chicago. I travel to Barbour County at least 4 times a year and have relatives that live there and I got involved with this HOT new genealogy thing 26 years ago. I have to disagree with you. There is not only a big problem in Barbour County but other counties and states as well. You are right in the fact that the land was bought but wrong in the fact that there are no descendents that care the fact is that many descendents cannot find the cemeteries because they are now on private property, over grown and cannot be located. YOU would think that the person owning the land would have enough respect for those that had gone before him to at least cut the grass, since they knew the cemetery was on the property when they bought it. What about those cemeteries now on Meade one of the biggest paper manufacturers in the world. Some are even behind locked gates so there is no access for family. I have to disagree with you there are many, many cemeteries in this condition. I am still trying to find where my Glover family is buried they were among the first settlers to come to Barbour County. Besides all of that if it were one cemetery it is one too many. Some of these cemeteries are so bad that I would not dare go there in the summer, too snaky, will only attempt it in the winter. My cousin was snake bite cleaning an old cemetery. Margie CC Barbour County ----- Original Message ----- From: <cfurth@ibm.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 9:56 PM Subject: [ALBARBOU] Cemetery Preservation > > I have read the conversation about the cemeteries in Barbour Co with > interest. I don't think the problem of untended cemeteries is as > widespread as the picture that is being painted. > The people who live in Barbour County are generally attentive to > the cemeteries in which their relatives are buried. The cemeteries > associated with active churches are well tended by church members. > In smaller churches, everyone helps unless they are physically unable. > The larger cemeteries (& many smaller ones) have committees - people > from the associated church, supported by public donations, who care > for them. Periodically, you will see a notice in the Barbour > newspapers reminding people to send in their donations. I also know > of family cemeteries on private property that are being well > maintained by descendants today. > The problems occur with small family cemeteries where there are > no family members living nearby to provide care and with the > cemeteries associated with a church which is no longer active. The > number of family cemeteries on private property increased as land was > sold out of the family. As roads and transportation improved during > the 1900s, the number of inactive churches increased with people > moving memberships to the larger churches. In some cases these > cemeteries became overgrown because there were no descendants who even > knew of their existence until genealogy became a hot hobby. > Care of these specific untended cemeteries is a real problem, > primarily because there is no one to assume the responsibility there. > It seems to me that would be a good project for a genealogical society > to oversee. Clearly, the responsibility will be more effective if it > is assumed by an organization that will exist 25,...100 years from > now. > Claire > Chicago > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > Got a complaint, contact me not the list margie@majorinternet.com > >

You are a saint. I checked my files, I save everything on a zip just in case but they may have gone to my old address at AOL. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Richardbprice@aol.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 6:53 PM Subject: [ALBARBOU] missing uploads > Margie, > > I do believe you said you have had some puter problems. A couple of items I > sent you in the last couple of months didn't get uploaded, (marriages, Elam > Church Cem., etc. I will resend. What address should they be sent to as I > have a couple of different ones? I don't recall where I sent the last stuff. > > Thanks, > Richard > SOS 6-3 > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > Check the Macon County Ga. web site for their newspaper listings. There are many listings for Alabama citizens including those in Barbour Co., > >

I say let's do it. Margie If we all agree, I will get the names of all of the Al. politicians and we can each sent an email to them. We could also go a petition on line and ask all the lists to sign it. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina McGarry" <Tina@trancorpinc.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 10:51 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [ALBARBOU] cemetery preservation fund > Good morning, > > The following idea is going a bit beyond your plan to restore local > cemeteries, but it might be a goal for you to consider: > > I am heavily into research in the state of Iowa. The state passed a law in > 1996 allowing for the creation of County Pioneer Cemetery Preservation > Commissions. see http://sapic.org The commissions are under local control > and the people in each commission are volunteers. The Des Moines County, IA > commission identified 42 cemeteries in need of restoration. Volunteers have > worked on 2 cemeteries this summer. I am going up to Kingston, IA to work > for a week when they restore the cemetery of my German immigrant ancestors. > > Maybe some of the AL residents on the list could send a copy of the IA law > to your state rep. I have researched family history in many states and > Alabama is a great state to work on genealogy. There are many genealogical > societies and historical societies. I am able to access the records I need > and I love the county heritage books project. I would think that the > establishment of county cemetery preservation commissions would be well > supported in the AL genealogy community. > > Sincerely, > Tina McCain-McGarry > > > > It would be a wonderful thing to do. We cannot do this through the list. > > It is against Rootsweb and USGENWEB policy. > > > > But here is an idea. How about us putting our heads together and get the > > media and citizens involved in the area to set up a fund. > > > > A committee that would be fair and not biased because of who's family it > > was. I bet that there would be local interest if they knew about it. > > > > We could also donate or do whatever it takes. I just believe in the power > > of the media. > > > > A local interest story with the reporter tromping through the bushes > > especially if the land is owned by big business. > > > > I plan on contacting Meade just as soon as all of the names of the > > cemeteries are sent to me. > > > > This could work. Let's put our thinking caps on. > > > > Margie > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Richardbprice@aol.com> > > To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 7:59 AM > > Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] cemetery preservation fund > > > > > > > Terri, > > > > > > I think it is a fantastic idea but I don't know the first thing about > > > administering such a thing logistically. Before we get too far off in > any > > > kind of planning stage I guess we need Margie's input first since we are > > > talking about doing it through the list and/or website. > > > > > > Richard Price > > > SOS 6-3 > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > > Barbou County is a relaxed mail list. Feel free to discuss Barbour > County > > and the surrounding counties genealogy and feel free to thank someone or > ask > > about another's well being. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > The Barbour County mail list a place where Barbour researchers have become > friends in research across the miles. > > > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina McGarry" <Tina@trancorpinc.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 10:51 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [ALBARBOU] cemetery preservation fund > Good morning, > > The following idea is going a bit beyond your plan to restore local > cemeteries, but it might be a goal for you to consider: > > I am heavily into research in the state of Iowa. The state passed a law in > 1996 allowing for the creation of County Pioneer Cemetery Preservation > Commissions. see http://sapic.org The commissions are under local control > and the people in each commission are volunteers. The Des Moines County, IA > commission identified 42 cemeteries in need of restoration. Volunteers have > worked on 2 cemeteries this summer. I am going up to Kingston, IA to work > for a week when they restore the cemetery of my German immigrant ancestors. > > Maybe some of the AL residents on the list could send a copy of the IA law > to your state rep. I have researched family history in many states and > Alabama is a great state to work on genealogy. There are many genealogical > societies and historical societies. I am able to access the records I need > and I love the county heritage books project. I would think that the > establishment of county cemetery preservation commissions would be well > supported in the AL genealogy community. > > Sincerely, > Tina McCain-McGarry > > > > It would be a wonderful thing to do. We cannot do this through the list. > > It is against Rootsweb and USGENWEB policy. > > > > But here is an idea. How about us putting our heads together and get the > > media and citizens involved in the area to set up a fund. > > > > A committee that would be fair and not biased because of who's family it > > was. I bet that there would be local interest if they knew about it. > > > > We could also donate or do whatever it takes. I just believe in the power > > of the media. > > > > A local interest story with the reporter tromping through the bushes > > especially if the land is owned by big business. > > > > I plan on contacting Meade just as soon as all of the names of the > > cemeteries are sent to me. > > > > This could work. Let's put our thinking caps on. > > > > Margie > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Richardbprice@aol.com> > > To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 7:59 AM > > Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] cemetery preservation fund > > > > > > > Terri, > > > > > > I think it is a fantastic idea but I don't know the first thing about > > > administering such a thing logistically. Before we get too far off in > any > > > kind of planning stage I guess we need Margie's input first since we are > > > talking about doing it through the list and/or website. > > > > > > Richard Price > > > SOS 6-3 > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > > Barbou County is a relaxed mail list. Feel free to discuss Barbour > County > > and the surrounding counties genealogy and feel free to thank someone or > ask > > about another's well being. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > > The Barbour County mail list a place where Barbour researchers have become > friends in research across the miles. > > > > > >

I just wonder, why! Do you have the number for Margaret Russell, I would love to call her and ask if she has had any response. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Richardbprice@aol.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] cemetery preservation fund > The Eufaula Tribune just did a story about two weeks ago with Margaret > Russell taking a reporter to Beauchamp, Perkins, and Thornton Cemeteries. > Have not seen any reaction at all since it ran. > > Richard Price > SOS 6-3 > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > This is a closed list and only subscribers will be allowed to post. NO FLAMING, OBSCENE LANGUAGE OR DISRESPECT OF ANY KIND WILL BE TOLERATED. No virus postings will be allowed. Got a complaint then contact me not the list margie@majorinternet.com Good luck in your searches. > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Gieger" <giegerg@hotmail.com> To: <GEORGIA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:44 AM Subject: [GEORGIA] Military Executions for desertion listed. > Forwarded from another List ---FYI > > > > >From: <wjclac@juno.com> > >Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 8:44 PM > > > > > >Hope someone might use some of this info. > > > >Wanda > > > >++++++++++++ > > > >Here are a few names taken from original Civil War Newspaper in my > >possession. > > > >Daily Constitutionalist, Augusta: GA, Thursday Morning, May 5, 1864. > > > >"Deserters continue to be brought here by the scores. Here is the names > >of twenty-one men to be shot for desertion: > > > >Privates J.R. Bunn, 58th Alabama; M.M. Smith and D.J. Brewer, 42d > >Georgia; H.A. Beacham, 40th Georgia; A.J. Carrol, 30th Georgia; > >Floyd Lawson, 63d Virginia; C.C. Ledford and James M Randle, 60th North > >Carolina; Ira Jessup, W. ? Byres, E.F. Younce, Gordon Morrow, > >Jesse Hase, R.A. Dellinger, Joseph A. Gibbs, Mikel Ward, J. A. Austin, > >S.A. Dover, Right Hutchings, Hiram Youngblood, and G.W. McFalls > >of the 58th North Carolina. All of them to be shot to death within the > >next ten days." > > > >Previous page same newspaper. "About half-past ten yesterday morning- > >the Race course was the scene of military execution of Private > >Henry Jerome of Company ?, the 17th Regiment S.C.V., twice guilty > >deserting his colors had penalty with his life. Took place in presence > >of Major Blanding's command of the 1st S.C. Artillery. Condemmed man of > >mature years, short in statue, quiet demeanor. Attended by Mr. > >Aldrich, Chaplain of 1st S. C. artillery. Private Jerome, native of > >Chester District leave a wife and three children." > > > > > >Mary > > > > > > > > > > > >==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > >Proud RootsWeb Sponsor > >To find out how you can be one too: > >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ==== GEORGIA Mailing List ==== > > >

That is a good start. Thanks Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Richardbprice@aol.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] Cemetery law > Margie, > > My wife will try to get in touch with Barbour County Assistant DA, Bill > Grubb, who has done some legal work on cemetery plots to ask the question > about cemetery access. I will let you know when I get a response. > > Richard Price > SOS 6-3 > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > Barbou County is a relaxed mail list. Feel free to discuss Barbour County and the surrounding counties genealogy and feel free to thank someone or ask about another's well being. > >

I found this very interesting. It helped me understand why those in the South that once had weatlh were robbed, their homes and crops burned. It wasn't enough that they had all their property looted and burned they also burned their food crops along with everything else. Margie Remember, laws passed in 1906 and 1929 gave Confederate soldiers official status as U.S. servicemen. ABSOLUTE PROOF THE NORTH DIDN'T INVADE OVER SLAVERY This amendment is the only one in the history of our nation to be signed by a President, Abe Lincoln. Of even more interest is the fact that all reports acknowledge that black slave labor was used as late as 1865. This means that, according to what is preached by modern, politically correct historians and the NAACP, while the Northern forces of Abraham Lincoln were invading and sacking the South under the guise of freeing slaves, the U.S. government was using slaves to build their government buildings. The hypocrisy in these contradictory actions is too glaring to ignore. There was a bill before the US congress in 1862 which would have abolished slavery. It was "defeated", even though the Southern states were not in the union. Absolute Proof the Southern States were not Traitors Each state was to remain a separate entity and retain their individual sovereignty. Virginia, Rhode Island and New York, in their ratification of the Constitution, stated that they reserved the right to secede from the union whenever the National Government used its powers to the oppression and injury of the people. Were they not admitted without question? Was not the declared right of these States the absolute right of all? 'On the twenty-fourth day of May, 1860,' the United States Senate passed a set of resolutions introduced by Jefferson Davis, of Mississippi, strongly indorsing the right of secession by a vote of thirty-six to nineteen. Twenty States voted for the resolutions, one State divided its vote, four voted against it, and eight refused to vote. The people still remained citizens of the state in which they lived. The "U.S. citizen" did not exist. Daniel Webster himself said that all states are nations. In 1844 the admission of Texas was a question. Did not the Legislature of Massachusetts pass the following resolution, "That the project of the annexation of Texas, unless arrested on the threshold, may drive these States into a dissolution of the Union" And just this week, Rep. Marlin Schneider of Wisconsin informs us that Wisconsin almost seceded over the Dred Scott decision. Forty-six years after the war Charles Stowe, son of Harriet Beecher Stowe, author of "Uncle Tom's Cabin," addressing a negro university in Nashville, Tenn., said: "It is certain there was a rebellion, but the Northerners were the rebels, not the Southerners." 'Jefferson Davis was never tried. That mountain fact lifts its tall testimony to tell the ages that the North waged an unconstitutional war against the constitutional South'. If you are true Southerners, reach back to your Southern roots for enough fortitude to stand up to the mighty naacp attacking our proud Southern heritage. The best answer, I believe, goes back to Nancy Reagan: "Just Say No". Our heritage cannot be saved if they see us as weaklings. During Lincoln's War the South had 104,000 deserters. Think before you join them. The following letter was found in a street in South Carolina as reported by the Columbus, Georgia Sun and Times, in THE STATESMAN, an Alderson, West Virginia newspaper. Later, it appeared in the Southern Historical Society Papers, Vol. XII, page 113,: "Camp near Camden, S. C., Feb 26, 1865. My dear wife--I have no time for particulars. We have had a glorious time in this State. Unrestricted license to burn and plunder was the order of the day. The chivalry [meaning the Honourable & Chivalrous people of the South] have been stripped of most of their valuables. Gold watches, silver pitchers, cups, spoons, forks, &c., are as common in camp as blackberries. The terms of plunder are as follows: Each company is required to exhibit the results of its operations at any given place--one-fifth and first choice falls to the share of the commander-in-chief and staff; one-fifth to the corps commanders and staff; one-fifth to field officers of regiments, and two-fifths to the company. Officers are not allowed to join these expeditions without disguising themselves as privates. One of our corps commanders borrowed a suit of rough clothes from one of my men, and was successful in this place. He got a large quantity of silver (among other things an old-time milk pitcher) and a very fine gold watch from a Mrs DeSaussure, at this place. DeSaussure was one of the F. F. V.s of South Carolina, and was made to fork over liberally.. Officers over the rank of Captain are not made to put their plunder in the estimate for general distribution. This is very unfair, and for that reason, in order to protect themselves, subordinate officers and privates keep back every thing that they can carry about their persons, such as rings, earrings, breast pins, &c., of which, if I ever get home, I have about a quart. I am not joking--I have at least a quart of jewelry for you and all the girls, and some No. 1 diamond rings and pins among them. General Sherman has silver and gold enough to start a bank. His share in gold watches alone at Columbia was two hundred and seventy-five. But I said I could not go into particulars. All the general officers and many besides had valuables of every description, down to embroidered ladies' pocket handkerchiefs. I have my share of them, too. We took gold and silver enough from the damned rebels to have redeemed their infernal currency twice over. This, (the currency), whenever we came across it, we burned, as we considered it utterly worthless. I wish all the jewelry this army has could be carried to the "Old Bay State". It would deck her out in glorious style; but, alas! it will be scattered all over the North and Middle States. The damned niggers, as a general rule, prefer to stay at home, particularly after they found out that we only wanted the able-bodied men, (and to tell the truth, the youngest and best-looking women). Sometimes we took off whole families and plantations of niggers, by way of repaying secessionists. But the useless part of them we soon manage to lose; [one very effective was to "shoot at their bobbing heads as they swam rivers" after the army units crossed over], sometimes in crossing rivers, sometimes in other ways. I shall write to you again from Wilmington, Goldsboro', or some other place in North Carolina. The order to march has arrived, and I must close hurriedly. Love to grandmother and aunt Charlotte. Take care of yourself and children. Don't show this letter out of the family. Your affectionate husband, Thomas J Myers, Lieut., &c. P.S. I will send this by the first flag of truce to be mailed, unless I have an opportunity of sending it at Hilton Head. Tell Sallie I am saving a pearl bracelet and ear-rings for her; but Lambert got the necklace and breast pin of the same set. I am trying to trade him out of them. These were taken from the Misses Jamison, daughters of the President of the South Carolina Secession Convention. We found these on our trip through Georgia." End of Letter. The letter was addressed to Mrs Thomas J. Myers, Boston, Massachusetts. Official U.S. Policy on Confederate POWs: "Rebel prisoners in our hands are to be subjected to a treatment finding its parallels only in the conduct of savage tribes and resulting in the death of multitudes by the slow but designed process of starvation and by mortal diseases occasioned by insufficient and unhealthy food and wanton exposure of their persons to the inclemency of the weather." Preamble to the H.R. 97, passed by both Houses

Doris, How far back from Richard Flowers do you go? I have been lucky to be in touch with some Flowers from this line that now live in Columbus GA. Cal ----- Original Message ----- From: <Dkrofla@aol.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 7:34 PM Subject: Re: Fw: {not a subscriber} Re: [ALBARBOU] Church Records of Southeast Al. > Hi Willie I was reading your request on a Flowers. My GGGrandfather Richard > Flowers married Lucinda Graves in Pike Co., Al, 24 Jan 1836. I have a file on > the Flowers that I got from the Family History Center, Latter Day Saints. Are > you connected to this line. > > > Doris > Clermont > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > Got a complaint, contact me not the list margie@majorinternet.com >

Richard, I really wish that I could help you with his father, but all I had in my database was that he had married Mary Jane Wise. Do you mind if I add your info to my database? Cal ----- Original Message ----- From: <Richardbprice@aol.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] (no subject) > Cal, > > That's the one. Turner Howell married Ezekiel's daughter Mary Jane at the > home of Ezekiel, 4 Aug 1854. Turner is my GG Grand. My mother is Jill > Howell Price, d/o Bertrum Lee "Bert" Howell, who was the son of Robert Lee > "Bob" Howell, who was the son of Turner Howell. I have much information on > Turner but the name of his father has eluded me since I began to work on this > line over a year ago. > > Richard Price > SOS 6-3 > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > This is a closed list and only subscribers will be allowed to post. NO FLAMING, OBSCENE LANGUAGE OR DISRESPECT OF ANY KIND WILL BE TOLERATED. No virus postings will be allowed. Got a complaint then contact me not the list margie@majorinternet.com Good luck in your searches. >

I have read the conversation about the cemeteries in Barbour Co with interest. I don't think the problem of untended cemeteries is as widespread as the picture that is being painted. The people who live in Barbour County are generally attentive to the cemeteries in which their relatives are buried. The cemeteries associated with active churches are well tended by church members. In smaller churches, everyone helps unless they are physically unable. The larger cemeteries (& many smaller ones) have committees - people from the associated church, supported by public donations, who care for them. Periodically, you will see a notice in the Barbour newspapers reminding people to send in their donations. I also know of family cemeteries on private property that are being well maintained by descendants today. The problems occur with small family cemeteries where there are no family members living nearby to provide care and with the cemeteries associated with a church which is no longer active. The number of family cemeteries on private property increased as land was sold out of the family. As roads and transportation improved during the 1900s, the number of inactive churches increased with people moving memberships to the larger churches. In some cases these cemeteries became overgrown because there were no descendants who even knew of their existence until genealogy became a hot hobby. Care of these specific untended cemeteries is a real problem, primarily because there is no one to assume the responsibility there. It seems to me that would be a good project for a genealogical society to oversee. Clearly, the responsibility will be more effective if it is assumed by an organization that will exist 25,...100 years from now. Claire Chicago

For Rebecca: Following re Hubert: Descendants of Hubert Lee Henderson Generation No. 1 1. HUBERT LEE6 HENDERSON (ALTO A5, GREEN B (GREENBERRY)4, JOSEPH J3, JAMES SAMUEL2, JOSEPH1) was born March 18, 1917 in Clayton, Barbour Co AL, and died March 28, 1999 in Jackson Co Hospital FL - Bur in Dothan AL City Cem. He married MATTIE MAE HENDERSON. She died June 1998. Notes for HUBERT LEE HENDERSON: Mr Henderson was a resident of Courtyard at the Millpond in Marianna FL. He was a resident of Houston Co for the most of his life. He was retired from the construction business as a carpenter and was of the Pentacostal faith. He was preceded in death by his wife Mattie Mae Henderson in June 1998. Survivors include a daughter Jo Anne Peterson, Midland City; and a son, Charles Henderson, Warner Robbins Ga; five grandchildren; five great-grandchildren, several nieces and nephews. (The Dothan Ealgle 3/29/1999) Children of HUBERT HENDERSON and MATTIE HENDERSON are: i. JO ANN7 HENDERSON, m. PETERSON. ii. CHARLES HENDERSON, b. ? lives in warner Robbins GA Emmett

Many thanks again Homer-You do so much for everyone-there is no way that you can ever be repaid what is due you! I'm going to try to make some phone calls to Meade tomorrow. At least I can try to make some phone calls. DEO VINDICE! Bill Blair Homer JONES wrote: > Bill, > > The following Confederate soldiers > are buried at Blair-Bishop Cemetery: > > John W. Blair, Oct 25, 1836-Jun 19, > 1900; Corp, Co G, 29th Ala Inf Rgt; > s/o William and Elizabeth Blair. > > S. Blair, Co C, 7th Ala Cav, no dates. > > Wesley Bishop, Oct 20, 1819-Jul 4, > 1879; Pvt, Co F, 1st Ala Inf Rgt. > > There is also an A. Turner there: > Jun 15, 1819-Oct 4, 1899; highly > suspect that is Allen Turner, Pvt > Co A, 57th Ala Inf Rgt, but have > not been able to confirm it. > > Deo Vindice, > > Homer > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > Check the Macon County Ga. web site for their newspaper listings. There are many listings for Alabama citizens including those in Barbour Co.,