Bob, The book "WATKINS The Lineage of the Children of James Martin Watkins CSA and Martha Wise of South Carolina and Pike County, Alabama" by Patsye H. Lucas, copyright 1998, lists Malinda Hawkins as the first wife of James M. Watkins. Ms. Lucas states there were no children of that marriage, but doesn't offer proof of either statement. However, circumstantial evidence does support her conclusion. As I'm sure you know, there is a marriage record in Barbour County for James M. and Malinda; legally, marriages had to occur in the bride's county of residence. However, I find it interesting there appears to be no parental consent for the marriage and James is apparently underage, according to census dates. I have found parental consent forms in Barbour County for all other under age marriages I have researched. However, since James lived out of the county, his age was probably unknown to the county clerk so he may have fibbed. James is listed in his father's household in Covington County in the 1850 census (no Malinda) but James' father clearly had ties in Barbour County. Have you searched for Malinda's tombstone under the name WATKINS and HAWKINS? It was not unusual for young married women who died without surviving children to be buried with their family and the tombstone marked with their maiden name. Hope this helps. Claire On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:30:47 -0700, you wrote: >I have a Malinda Hawkins who married a James M Watkins in Barbour Co. >Jan. 1847. Trouble is, the only James M Watkins I can find would have >been barely 17 years of age and should have been in Covington County at >that time. Am trying to ascertain if this is the same James M Watkins >who married Martha Wise in Barbour Co. in Jan 1856. Any clues >appreciated. -bob

I have set up a calendar for Barbour County. I encourage everyone to post the happenings. Your library meetings, reunions, just anything that is going on that pertains to Barbour County. Put this in your favorites. I will also link it from the front page of the Barbour Site. Margie http://resources.rootsweb.com/~calendar/cgi-bin/calendar.cgi?calname=Barbour_County_Happenings

I have a Malinda Hawkins who married a James M Watkins in Barbour Co. Jan. 1847. Trouble is, the only James M Watkins I can find would have been barely 17 years of age and should have been in Covington County at that time. Am trying to ascertain if this is the same James M Watkins who married Martha Wise in Barbour Co. in Jan 1856. Any clues appreciated. -bob

Homer - There is no Conyers in the index of this book. But there were so many different groups who went independently, and I get the impression there was another settling area some considerable distance from the Americana area. -bob Homer JONES wrote: > This one from Bullock Cou; from some > of my old scribbled notes, hard to make > out: > > J.D. Conyers, d. Apr 1, 1897 Bullock > Cou; at age 9 moved to Brazil with > his family and returned to the US at > age 21; best I can make out, he was > the son of James R. and Martha E. > Carr Conyers; buried at Oak Hill > Cemetery, Union Springs. > > Deo Vindice, > > Homer > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > 750,000 men from the South faced 2 million men from the North . 2 million men could not defeat 750,000 Southern troops what did defeat them was disease, hunger, lack of money and supplies.

A great big thanks to Lois. She now has the 1860 census and will do look ups. While I am on the subject of look ups. I would like to remind everyone that our volunteers are just that. They use their own money, time and resources. They do not have a time limit and may not be perched just waiting for the next look up. Please limit your requests to no more than two names unless the look up board says one. I received an email today from one of our volunteers that received a request for no less than wanting all family members and was very upset when our volunteer was unwilling to do their research for them. The person requesting sent a nasty note that if they were unwilling to do the research then they should take their name down. Wrong! The only name that was removed was their's from all the mail lists. I cannot control email coming directly to you, if you get a nasty email let me know and I will banish them on my end and you can place them on your reject list on your email program. Our lookup and volunteers are the heart of this list and sites. Without everyone sharing and helping each other we would never get anywhere. This person is the exception rather than the rule. Has to be one in every crowd. Thanks to each and everyone of you that have helped uncountless persons. Margie I now have the 1860 Barbour Co census also - will be glad to do those lookups too! And I have a limited marriage cd that covers Barbour Co also - can you add that to my name?? Lois Danley - Leeadan@aol.com

Well, Nobody has missed you as much as me. Your email address has been bouncing and bouncing. If you want to see what you missed, you can always check out the list archives. Glad you are back Margie CC Barbour County mail list owner Barbour County ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carrie Thomas-Dominguez" <orchid@sunflower.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 3:01 PM Subject: [ALBARBOU] New email addy > Hi all! > Boy have I missed this bunch! I've been off-line for a month and a half, moving...UGH! I have also changed internet service providers (finally gone cable-yipee!) For those corresponding with me by mail, please contact privately for new snail mail address. Please note change to email address: > > old email addy's: New email addy: > carried@swbell.net orchid@sunflower.com > carrie_d63@hotmail.com > > Hope everyone is doing well....did I miss much? > > Researching THOMAS, MORRISON, BOSWELL, GILMORE, and others. > Carrie Thomas-Dominguez > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > ".... people will forget what you said ... .... people will forget what > you did ... .... but people will never forget how you made them feel > ..." > >

The Barbour County site has been updated. Please see the family reunion section and other updates. We also have the whiskey bottle grave loaded. http://www.rootsweb.com/~albarbou/bulletinboard.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: cat jeffers To: margieD@bigfoot.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:09 AM Subject: Brock Family Reunion Would you please list this on you reunion page The dec. of Gregory James and Martha (Teal) Brock and William Daniel and Josephine T. (Brown) Brock of Clio will have a family reunion at the home of Alex Brock in Clio on Sunday September 10, 2000. His home is located on Depot St. next door to the old William Daniel Brock Home in Clio. Family and friends or invited to attend and bring a covered dish. Hope to see you there. Margie could you posted this to as many state sites as you have we have family all over the south never know when someone might see it and attend. posted by Catherine Brock Jeffers Thank you. A person who possesses true peace is not one whose life is without problems and turmoil but is rather a person who has peace in spite of it.

-----Original Message----- From: Tracey Berezansky <TBerezan@archives.state.al.us> To: jtait@HiWAAY.net <jtait@HiWAAY.net> Cc: dwilkins@archives.state.al.us <dwilkins@archives.state.al.us>; Fbrown@archives.state.al.us <Fbrown@archives.state.al.us>; lfrazer@archives.state.al.us <lfrazer@archives.state.al.us>; tturley@archives.state.al.us <tturley@archives.state.al.us> Date: Thursday, August 31, 2000 4:18 PM Subject: Re: Saving old newspapers >Dear Ms. Tait: > >Debra Wilkins forwarded your message to me for response. > >The Alabama Newspaper Project ended its work in 1995. During that time it filmed the following newspapers. All of these are available on microfilm from the Department of Archives & History. > >The Greenville Advocate (Greenville), 1866 December 20 - 1994 December 29 > Missing issues: 1869 October - 1873 November; 1918 June - October > Southern Messenger (Greenville), 1859 March 16 - 1861 July 3 > > The South Alabamian (Greenville), 1860 April 7 - December 22 > > The Living Truth (Greenville), 1896 June 25 - 1914 September 11 > Missing issues: 1897-1898 > > The Butler County News (Georgiana), 1982 January 7 - 1995 December 28 > > The Butler County News (Georgiana), 1914 September 10 - 1937 April 29 > >Union Springs Times (Union Springs), 1866 February 28 - 1871 January 18 > > Union Springs Herald and Times (Union Springs), 1872 April 3 - 1873 July 16 > > Union Springs Herald (Union Springs), 1873 July 30 - 1994 December 28 > Missing issues: 1892; 1907-1909 > >The Southern Star (Ozark), 1884 September 10 - 1995 June 28 > Missing issues: 1886 - 1887; 1893 - 1909 > > The Banner (Ozark), 1892 June 2 - 1894 November 22 > > Daleville Sun Courier (Daleville), 1988 July 6 - 1994 December 28 > > The Free Press (Ozark), 1896 September 17 - 1900 December 27 > > The Newton Messenger (Newton), 1887 January 1 - 1890 December 26 > > Ozark Banner-Advertiser (Ozark), 1895 January 31 - 1897 April 30 > > The Ozark Tribune (Ozark), 1902 September 9 - 1913 February 15 > >In addition, the ADAH is microfilming 95 current newspapers. Beginning on January 1, 2001 we are going to eliminate some of our current newspaper microfilming projects and begin to microfilm the historical newspapers that were not microfilmed during the 10 years of the newspaper project. > >The reason that courthouses across the state have so many newspaper volumes is because it is legislatively mandated that the Probate Judge maintain the newspaper that has the legal notices for the county. Our local government archivists visit county and municipal offices and help local officials meet their records preservation responsibilities. We have helped several counties create appropriate storage facilities for their historical records and have even helped in the establishment of local archives in some communities. I will pass along your concerns to the local archivists so they can look at the newspapers on their next visit to the county. > >If you have additional questions or would like more information about the newspapers already on microfilm, please contact me at 334-242-4452. > >Sincerely, > > > > >Tracey Berezansky >Assistant Director for Government Records >Alabama Dept. of Archives and History >P.O. Box 300100 >624 Washington Avenue >Montgomery, AL 36130-0100 >334-242-4452 >FAX 334-240-3433 >E-mail tberezan@archives.state.al.us >Web URL www.archives.state.al.us > >>>> Jim and Terri Tait <jtait@HiWAAY.net> 08/22/00 01:39PM >>> >List, Ms. Wilkins > >I am cc-ing Debra Wilkins of the AL Archives Director's Office. Perhaps >she or someone else at the AL Archives can help save these old (Butler, >Bullock, Dale, etc.) Southeast AL newspapers. > >Ms. Wilkins - if you are not the correct person to whom to submit this >request, please either forward this email, or notify us of the correct >person. > >The AL Newspaper Project microfilmed many old newspapers in the >1980's. Is this group still in existence? Can they help us? > >Can the AL Archives or the AL Newspaper Project help save/microfilm these >old newspapers? If so, what steps do we need to take to start this >process? > >We really appreciate any help that you might have to offer. > >Thanks, >Terri Shipman Tait >jtait@hiwaay.net > >On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Parker wrote: > >> In the basement of the Butler Co., Alabama courthouse in Greenville, Alabama >> there are stacks of papers dating back into the 1800's. They too are >> falling apart. It would seem that somehow these could be saved as they are >> at the very least a valuable piece of history and genealogy for Southeast >> Alabama. Some from the Dale / Coffee Co., Alabama area moved back and forth >> between these counties in the early days. Any suggestions on how to save >> them before they are lost to the trash? >> >> kp >> >> >> >> >> ==== ALDALE Mailing List ==== >> Have relatives that lived in more than one county? Submit their history to all the counites for better results. >> > >

Hi all! Boy have I missed this bunch! I've been off-line for a month and a half, moving...UGH! I have also changed internet service providers (finally gone cable-yipee!) For those corresponding with me by mail, please contact privately for new snail mail address. Please note change to email address: old email addy's: New email addy: carried@swbell.net orchid@sunflower.com carrie_d63@hotmail.com Hope everyone is doing well....did I miss much? Researching THOMAS, MORRISON, BOSWELL, GILMORE, and others. Carrie Thomas-Dominguez

About Rose O'Neal Greenhow. Rose O'Neal Greenhow was born in Montgomery County, Maryland in 1817. "Wild Rose", as she was called from a young age, was a leader in Washington society, a passionate secessionist, and one of the most renowned spies in the Civil War. Among her accomplishments was the secret message she sent to General Pierre G.T. Beauregard which ultimately caused him to win the battle of Bull Run. She spied so successfully for the Confederacy that Jefferson Davis credited her with winning the battle of Manassas. She was imprisoned for her efforts first in her own home and then in the Old Capital Prison. Despite her confinement, Greenhow continued getting messages to the Confederacy by means of cryptic notes which traveled in unlikely places such as the inside of a woman's bun of hair. After her second prison term, she was exiled to the Confederate states where she was received warmly by President Jefferson Davis. Her next mission was to tour Britain and France as a propagandist for the Confederate cause. Two months after her arrival in London, her memoirs were published and enjoyed a wide sale throughout the British Isles. In Europe, Greenhow found a strong sympathy for the South, especially among the ruling classes. During the course of her travels she hobnobbed with many members of the nobility. In Paris, she was received into the court of Napoleon III and was granted an audience with the Emperor at the Tuileries. Rose's diary (August 5, 1863 - August 10, 1864), held in the North Carolina State Archives in Raleigh, NC, describes her mission in great detail. In 1864, after a year abroad, she boarded the Condor, a British blockade-runner which was to take her home. Just before reaching her destination, the vessel ran aground at the mouth of the Cape Fear River near Wilmington, North Carolina. In order to avoid the Union gunboat that pursued her ship, Rose fled in rowboat, but never made it to shore. Her little boat capsized and she was dragged down by the weight of the gold she received in royalties for her book. In October 1864, Rose was buried with full military honors in the Oakdale Cemetery in Wilmington. Her coffin was wrapped in the Confederate flag and carried by Confederate troops. The marker for her grave, a marble cross, bears the epitaph, "Mrs. Rose O'N. Greenhow, a bearer of dispatchs [sic] to the Confederate Government."

Hawkinsville is on CR 89 north of US 82 and just north of the south fork of the Cowikee Creek. If you are at the Jones Family Cemetery, you are in Hawkinsville. T12N - R28E -Sec 15. Richard SOS 6-3

Confederate deaths in Lauderdale Springs Miss. Confederate Hospitals Gallayway, W.R. Co. B, 29th Ga died Sept. 27, 1863 Gamble, Daniel H. Co. I 41st Ga died in 1862 Gandy, A.P. Co. I 29th Ga died Sept. 14, 1863 Garrard, Alford N. Co. F 41st Ga died May 4, 1862 Gualding, Henry W. Co. E 41st Ga died May 6, 1862 Geiger, Cornelius Co. K 47th Ga died Aug. 20, 1863 Gibson, Corp. Thomas J. Co. K 5th Ga died June 23, 1862 Giddings, Jesse M. Co. H 5th Ga died June 13, 1862 Glover, John L. Co. G 5th Ga died Sept. 12, 1862 Green, Harrison Co. B, 41st Ga died June 3, 1862 Green, T.E. Co. H 40th Ga died July 15, 1863 Green, Thomas O. Co. D 41st Ga died 1862 Gresham, Napoleon B. Co. E 5th Ga died June 28, 1862 Griffin, Mitchell Co. I, 29th Ga died Aug. 15, 1863 Grubbs, John R. Co. G 34th Ga died May 1, 1863

Margie, How about Hawkinsville ? have no idea where it was but in the 1902 Barbour County Confederate Vets list, Col Hiram Hawkins gave his his address as Hawkinsville. Deo Vindice, Homer

Thanks, Granpa (lived to 104) said that when they came back from Georgia that his Uncle Frank was had granddad's old place and that they moved into the Hawkins old place up around Eufauala. To him everything was up around Eufaula. Do you know any history of Lawrenceville? Just across the Barbour line. Thanks, Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Richardbprice@aol.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 6:42 AM Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] Hawkins Old Place > Margie, > > Nothing definate on an Old Hawkins Place yet but someone did confirm that the ridge that runs behind Rocky Mt. Church up toward SR is known as Hawkins ridge. They were unsure of the origin of the name but said it was probably for the Hawkins that lived in the area back then. I believe there is a place near there now call Hawkins lodge or something like that, probably a hunting camp. Will let you know when I stumble up on anything else. > > SOS 6-3 > Richard > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > ".... people will forget what you said ... .... people will forget what > you did ... .... but people will never forget how you made them feel > ..." > >

This one from Bullock Cou; from some of my old scribbled notes, hard to make out: J.D. Conyers, d. Apr 1, 1897 Bullock Cou; at age 9 moved to Brazil with his family and returned to the US at age 21; best I can make out, he was the son of James R. and Martha E. Carr Conyers; buried at Oak Hill Cemetery, Union Springs. Deo Vindice, Homer

Margie, Nothing definate on an Old Hawkins Place yet but someone did confirm that the ridge that runs behind Rocky Mt. Church up toward SR is known as Hawkins ridge. They were unsure of the origin of the name but said it was probably for the Hawkins that lived in the area back then. I believe there is a place near there now call Hawkins lodge or something like that, probably a hunting camp. Will let you know when I stumble up on anything else. SOS 6-3 Richard

Does anyone know where the State Headquarters are. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tomtilton@aol.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] GLOVER - Confed Vet > Margie, > While you are in Montgomery did you have any plans to check at the Masonic > Headquarters for records of the Eufaula and Glennville lodges? I don't know > if your reseach would involve this or you would have the time. I checked what > they had at the Masonic Library in Washington, D.C. and the little I did find > included a number of members of the Eufaula Regency and there were some dates > of death given for other members. What I was told by the people in Montgomery > were that older records from lodges were held at the state headquarters. I > don't know if the records would include any family/ancestor records. Just a > thought. > > Tom Tilton > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > Check the Macon County Ga. web site for their newspaper listings. There are many listings for Alabama citizens including those in Barbour Co., > >

I do now. That is if they are open on the weekend. I have printed out this message and will take it with me. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tomtilton@aol.com> To: <ALBARBOU-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [ALBARBOU] GLOVER - Confed Vet > Margie, > While you are in Montgomery did you have any plans to check at the Masonic > Headquarters for records of the Eufaula and Glennville lodges? I don't know > if your reseach would involve this or you would have the time. I checked what > they had at the Masonic Library in Washington, D.C. and the little I did find > included a number of members of the Eufaula Regency and there were some dates > of death given for other members. What I was told by the people in Montgomery > were that older records from lodges were held at the state headquarters. I > don't know if the records would include any family/ancestor records. Just a > thought. > > Tom Tilton > > > ==== ALBARBOU Mailing List ==== > Check the Macon County Ga. web site for their newspaper listings. There are many listings for Alabama citizens including those in Barbour Co., > >

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