This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/pR.2ADE/773.4 Message Board Post: There is a John Calvin in a collateral line, but he was born in Texas the son of Robert Franklin Oates and Sarah Matthews. His eldest brother was Stephen Moses. I will contact Elza Oates in Woodville Texas to find out who these people are that you mentioned.