In a message dated 12/07/2001 1:40:32 AM Central Standard Time, eirrol2000@hotmail.com writes: << When looking for my family my grand father was Admiral Dewy Hilburn married to Ruby Lee Bates whose sister was married to Joseph Palughi someone answered that they had a bar called Joe Palookas. Would this bar have any connection to Grand View Park. >> No, Joe Palooka's was downtown Mobile on Government Street. It catered mostly to the Merchant Marine (seaman) trade. Joseph Palughi, Jr. is a judge and attorney now in Mobile. Best, Bob RE Speese ********************************************************************* Researching SPEESE, STREET, McWATTERS and BALLENTINE. Norton 2001 Updated Virus System GOD BLESS AMERICA