If you will send his name to me, I'll look him up and let you know what happened to him. Please reply to pittsaj14@hotmail.com -----Original Message----- From: XHeatherTn@aol.com [mailto:XHeatherTn@aol.com] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 10:02 AM To: AL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AL-Civil War] 7th Al Infantry A Pension Application. I am new at this, and don't understand a lot of it. I started doing genealogy so I could find someone in the civil war to research. Now I found one and can't figure him out! :-) Thanks, Heather ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

A Pension Application. I am new at this, and don't understand a lot of it. I started doing genealogy so I could find someone in the civil war to research. Now I found one and can't figure him out! :-) Thanks, Heather

Was this information taken from a service record, a pension application, or another source? -----Original Message----- From: XHeatherTn@aol.com [mailto:XHeatherTn@aol.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 4:36 PM To: AL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AL-Civil War] 7th Al Infantry He was in Company E. He said he got hurt doing a blockade at Decatur Al but then says he was disharged at Corinth MS. Heather ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xhC.2ACE/737.1 Message Board Post: Oakleyville isn't an existing place name in Alabama. I couldn't find it in my list of post offices for Alabama for 1859 and 1862. However, the 1860 census for Bibb County includes the name "Oakleyville" among place names recorded at the top of the pages. That's not far from Selma, and is probably the place in question.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xhC.2ACE/741.1 Message Board Post: Obviously this man's parents were great admirers of the Revolutionary War hero Francis Marion. If you've seen "The Patriot", Mel Gibson plays the role of Francis Marion in this film. You asked about the 9th Alabama Battalion. It organized at Newbern Ala. in the winter of 1861-62 under Lt.Col. Robert P. Blount. Orders issued February 13, 1862, directed Blount to take his battalion to Decatur, Ala. From there it went to Corinth, Miss., but was not involved in the Battle of Shiloh. After the battle, General Bragg ordered Blount's Battalion to be disbanded. Despite a petition by Blount and his officers protesting the order, on April 28, 1862, most officers were relieved of their commissions and the rest scattered with the enlisted men among companies of the 17th and 18th Alabama Infantry Regiments. The battalion (which members usually called the 5th Alabama Battalion) went out of existence for a time. Meanwhile the War Department received Lt.Col. Blount's application to have staff officers appointed for his command. Another Alabama unit had already been designated the "5th Battalion", so the War Department gave Blount the next available number: the 9th Alabama Battalion. Eventually the authorities in Richmond learned what General Bragg had done and reversed his action. By order of the War Department, the 9th Alabama Infantry Battalion reorganized at Mobile, Alabama, on March 2, 1863. Members reassembled from the 17th and 18th Alabama Infantry Regiments and reformed in their original companies. I apologize for the long story. The experience of these men -- being disbanded, reassigned, then reformed in their original companies -- was unique among Alabama Confederate commands. I've summarized the story was told by John Washington Inzer in his book mentioned in my other post. For your purposes, it means that your ancestor's name could be recorded in several places. If he's not recorded with the 9th Ala. Battalion & 58th Ala. Regt., he might be on roll with either the 17th or 18th Ala. It's also possible that a roll constructed from memory by a veteran of your ancestor's command might be among the 58th Alabama files in Montgomery. Keep in mind that the pension boards didn't award payments to applicants without some kind of proof. However, they knew that many records had been lost or destroyed. If your ancestor's name didn't appear in the records, he had to secure affidavits from other veterans to certify his service. Check for these in the pension application. You might also check the 1907 census of Alabama to see if your ancestor's name appears there. I would also look to see if anyone mentioned his name in Confederate Veteran magazine. Of course the name "Harris" is fairly common, so we have to be careful to check the first name and/or initials. Did he sign his name "G. M." or "G. Marion"? Or was he "Francis Marion"/"F. M."/"Marion"/"Frank"?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xhC.2ACE/741 Message Board Post: I should have stated that my gg grandfathers name was "General Marion Harris," who was probably the son of Sarah Swinney and Joel Harris. He and his mother were listed in the 1850 census in Jefferson County, AL. By 1860, he was married to Susan Goodwin and they were listed next to Sarah Harris and William and Mary Harris. (still in Jefferson County, AL.) William was probably his brother by his mother's earlier marriage. The details are far from proven but the evidence seems to confirm the relationships. I already have the pension records which contain no new information, 1 muster report stating that JM Harris was captured and the other Confederate record stating that he had enlisted in the 9th AL. Infantry Bat'n. Unfortunately, there is no record of him in muster reports of the 9th Infantry Bat'n. In fact there are only two men named Harris and neither appeared to be descriptive of "G.M Harris" of Jefferson County. AL. The military History that I had found indicated that the 9th Infantry Batalion had just been organized a couple of months before it consolidated into the 58th AL. Infantry. I would appreciate any ideas or advice on how to further research either of these Infantries.

An excellent documentary! And unslanted truth, for a change, on the History Channel. The South, and Semmes, come out looking good--which is usually the case when the Yankee spin is removed from WBTS history. Leland Hamner Texas

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xhC.2ACE/740 Message Board Post: Need to know if these Hosey's served in the Civil War: Jesse HOSEY Elbert Henry HOSEY John L HOSEY Steadman Dock HOSEY Stephen William HOSEY JONATHAN H. HOSEY

Anyone interested in watching today on the history channel at 1:00 p.m. eastern time, they are showing a documentary on the CSS Alabama that sunk in battle off the coast of France in 1864. P. Forister

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xhC.2ACE/731.1.1 Message Board Post: I am trying to find something about Eli Jackson Walker b1829 .Would he be in this? Thanks Lynda Cook

He was in Company E. He said he got hurt doing a blockade at Decatur Al but then says he was disharged at Corinth MS. Heather

Does anyone have any information on the 7th or 16th infantry? On his pension file he said he was in the 7th but 16th on the Muster Roll. Thanks, Heather

The 7th Alabama was a twelve-month command. The "Madison Rifles" and "Florence Guards" (Companies 'D' and 'K' were from northwest Alabama, so members might have joined the 16th Alabama (from northwest Alabama) after their companies disbanded. Pension applications weren't written so you could fill in the blanks for different commands you had joined, so it's not unusual to see more than one answer to this type of question. -----Original Message----- From: XHeatherTn@aol.com [mailto:XHeatherTn@aol.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:49 PM To: AL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AL-Civil War] 7th Al Infantry Does anyone have any information on the 7th or 16th infantry? On his pension file he said he was in the 7th but 16th on the Muster Roll. Thanks, Heather ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

To answer a couple of questions: yes, Confederate soldiers were required to furnish their own mounts. They received compensation for the use of private animals and were paid an assessed value if the animal was lost in service. After the first year or so weapons from home would not have been seen in the armies except among militiamen. Average Southerners didn't have the spare cash to buy a firearm, and wealthier men who owned a shotgun or 'sporting' rifle wouldn't have found them useful in the army. By 1863-64 inventories signed by Confederate ordnance officers list weapons that had been imported through the blockade, captured from Federal sources or produced by home industries. Most Confederate weapons were either captured or imported. Company officers were elected. Congress later passed laws requiring that candidates pass a board examination composed of officers from their brigade to be promoted. Staff officers were appointed and confirmed by their respective departments. Medical officers had to be examined prior to promotion; quartermasters and commissaries had to be bonded. The law allowed the president to nominate officers, but this wasn't done too often. I've never read anything about Partisan Rangers being the object of anyone's animosity because of their branch of service. That being said, remember that we are talking about Walker County, right on the boundary of Winston. A number of citizens cared not for either side and wanted to be left alone. These men were recruited after the Conscript Act of April 1862 -- in other words, they weren't really volunteers. In the early days of the 13th P.R. Battalion, they were stationed near home and tended to "slip away" whenever the opportunity presented itself. There was a conflict between the way these men wanted to behave (come and go as they pleased) and military regulations, which required service until furloughed or discharge. A few years ago I had the opportunity to interview some people in the Chilton/Shelby County area about incidents that took place there during the war. A number of them bear hard feelings about what was done to their ancestors. Very little of it had anything to do with the war; in fact, the war seemed to be an excuse for some to pursue family grudges and feuds that started long before Fort Sumter, and continued long after Appomattox. Let me know if I can answer any other questions. My email address is pittsaj14@hotmail.com -- If I recall, there were a number of Philips men in this command. Alan Pitts -----Original Message----- From: Dena and Derek [mailto:dreaming_yet_awake@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 3:35 PM To: AL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AL-Civil War] Partisan Rangers Leland, I have seen his grave so I am sure that he was there. Just can't find him lol. I was wondering if, because he was in a unit that consalidated with others, that he might be on the rolls somewhere else. I plan on writing for his info soon. I was amazed when I read that some people called them murderers and thieves. Maybe cause the history I was reading was written by the victors lol. Always a bit of a different story when you see where the history is coming from isn't it? Now that I know my ggreatgrand was a member of a group like that I want to learn everything. But, I would like to know the real story. I do have one question. I read that they had to supply their own weapons, mounts etc because they mostly volunteered for these groups... How did they elect officers? Or were they assigned? Thank you Leland for writing. I'm gonna hunt down some info on that tv show. That would have been cool to see. Dena ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Leland, I have seen his grave so I am sure that he was there. Just can't find him lol. I was wondering if, because he was in a unit that consalidated with others, that he might be on the rolls somewhere else. I plan on writing for his info soon. I was amazed when I read that some people called them murderers and thieves. Maybe cause the history I was reading was written by the victors lol. Always a bit of a different story when you see where the history is coming from isn't it? Now that I know my ggreatgrand was a member of a group like that I want to learn everything. But, I would like to know the real story. I do have one question. I read that they had to supply their own weapons, mounts etc because they mostly volunteered for these groups... How did they elect officers? Or were they assigned? Thank you Leland for writing. I'm gonna hunt down some info on that tv show. That would have been cool to see. Dena

Sorry, I forgot to sign. Leland Texas

Dena, Did anyone answer? I can't help with the details about Phillips or a muster roll--I would check with the Alabama Dept of History and Archives for that. However, don't fret too much about "not many" liking Partisan Rangers. There were PRs in nearly every state and they were essentially guerilla fighters. Some had a bad reputation such as Quantrell's bunch (though they were essentially using the same tactics as their enemy, they just were on the loosing side) and Mosby's outfit in Virginia which was also labeled outlaws and subject, at one point, to immediate hanging by the Yankees (Custer) if captured. Mosby was later ambassador to Hong Kong not to mention the subject of a TV series, the "Gray Ghost" in the late 50s and/or early 60s.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Muntz, Gerst Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xhC.2ACE/739.1.1 Message Board Post: He was from Mobile Co, in Mobile, ALA. He was seriously wounded in the war and sent home to die, but he recovered. I would very much appreciate any info as to any pension, etc. that you could give me. Thanks in advance - Doris Pack dorispack@webtv.net

You will have to go to the Alabama Archives for Militia Records. http://www.archives.state.al.us/index.html CHISOLM, Robert J. (Captain, Home Guard Henry County Militia, Woodsville Scouts/ Captain/ R. J. Chisolm’s Cavalry, Militia Local Defense Beat 1, Henry County) Exempt by substitution from Confederate Service. Age 27, Captain, Muster roll January 28, 1863; Muster roll, August 15, 1863 Age 28, Alabama, Henry County, Captain R. J. Chisolm's Cavalry. Jimmy Allen, Webmaster Alabama Civil War Roots http://www.rootsweb.com/~alcwroot/ -----Original Message----- From: Judith Massey [mailto:Grandmaferretlady@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:08 PM To: AL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AL-Civil War] Capt. Chisolm's Co. Alabama Cavalry A relative gave me a piece of paper that had this information on it, but she didn't know where it came from and I have been unable to find anything on Capt. Chisolm's Co. Alabama Cavalry. He would have enlisted near Henry County, Alabama and would have been 51 years old. I am trying to verify the information and the National Archives didn't find anything on him. Henry A. Forrester date of enlistment August 1, 1863 in Confederate Chisolm's Cavalry - Alabama. Capt. Chisolm's Co. Alabama Cavalry on Company muster roll of Chisolm's Company - August 15, 1863 Residence Henry County, Regiment 77, Beat 3. His leg was amputated as a result of the war. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

A relative gave me a piece of paper that had this information on it, but she didn't know where it came from and I have been unable to find anything on Capt. Chisolm's Co. Alabama Cavalry. He would have enlisted near Henry County, Alabama and would have been 51 years old. I am trying to verify the information and the National Archives didn't find anything on him. Henry A. Forrester date of enlistment August 1, 1863 in Confederate Chisolm's Cavalry - Alabama. Capt. Chisolm's Co. Alabama Cavalry on Company muster roll of Chisolm's Company - August 15, 1863 Residence Henry County, Regiment 77, Beat 3. His leg was amputated as a result of the war.