This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xhC.2ACE/744.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks Alan, I really appreciate the information. Doris

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xhC.2ACE/744.1 Message Board Post: You requested additional information: Company “A” of the 15th Alabama Partisan Ranger Battalion was recruited in Autauga and Montgomery Counties and called the “Fleming Freeman Rebels”. Members elected A. W. DeBardeleben as their captain. This officer later served as Lieutenant Colonel of the 56th Alabama Partisan Ranger Regiment. The “Fleming Freeman Rebels” were accepted in Confederate service at Camp Forney near Montgomery, Alabama, June 2, 1862. This company later served as Company “A” of the 56th Alabama Partisan Ranger Regiment. William S. Brewer appears on the descriptive roll of the company as age 28, farmer, grey eyes, light hair and fair complexion, 6 feet tall. He enlisted for the duration of the war. On August 25, 1862, four companies of partisan rangers camped at Hall’s Mills, Alabama, about eleven miles south of Mobile. The battalion picketed west of Mobile and sometimes skirmished with Federal outposts in Mississippi until the late spring of 1863. About that time it was ordered to northeast Mississippi. This command combined with the 13th Alabama Partisan Ranger Battalion to form the 56th Alabama Partisan Ranger Regiment June 8, 1863, as confirmed by the Adjutant and Inspector General July 8, 1863. From this time forward the regiment served in General Samuel W. Ferguson's Brigade. Ferguson's men formed the Confederate rear guard at Meridian MS in Feb. 1864, at Atlanta in Sept. 1864, and served as part of President Davis' escort in the Carolinas in April 1865. The 56th Alabama disbanded at Forsyth GA. W. S. Brewer's name appears on the final roll of the regiment at Forsyth.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xhC.2ACE/744 Message Board Post: Seeking information on William S Brewer who was 28 when he enlisted in Montgomery, AL. He was in the 56th Cavalry, Co A. Believe he started out in the 15th AL Partisan Rangers. Can't seem to find much info on the 15th or the 56th. Not sure if he made it thru the war. Any help would be appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xhC.2ACE/743.1 Message Board Post: History of Coosa County includes the following statement: Ellis Logan, who had resigned as captain of Co. H., 13th Ala., in May, 1862, on account of health, returned to Coosa and resumed his duty as sherfif. In May, 1864, under a special Act providing for the enlistment of such as were exempt from Confederate service, to form companies for home defense, thus supplementing the power of the Confederate forces in the State for protection within the State borders, Ellis Logan raised a company of this kind, of which Logar' was captain; Jeremiah Busbee, 1st Lt.; J. L. Bilby, 2nd Lt.; C. B. Henderson, 3rd Lt.; J. P. Earhart, 1st Sergt.; Caleb Bailey, 2nd Sergt.; John C. Bulger, 3rd Sergt.; Jacob Farris, 4th Sergt.; A. T. Stanley, 1st Corpl.; W. F. May, 2nd Corpl.; Taylor Coker, 3rd Corpl.; T. Watt, 4th Corpl. There were 68 privates. This company did some service in South Alabama. "South" Alabama means the Mobile area, in particular Baldwin County and the eastern shore of Mobile Bay. I'll check the NARA microfilm to see what's it has about this Reserve company.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xhC.2ACE/743 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on Ellis Logans Mounted Patrol out of Coosa County Alabama I know they went toward the central and south of Alabama in the fall of 1864 and the spring of 1865. Can anyone tell me more about this company after it was call into the war. I think my great great grandfather was killed were ever they saw action, he never returned home

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xhC.2ACE/742.1 Message Board Post: Please contact me about your needs. This was Capt. William H. King's Company from Greene and Bibb Counties. It organized at Greensboro Ala. and mustered for Confederate service at Selma on June 20, 1864.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xhC.2ACE/507.515.514.516.1.1 Message Board Post: This statement is not entirely accurate. Companies in this battalion were composed of boys under the age of eighteen. Most would have been listed as age seventeen; others sixteen or younger. Also, keep in mind that a majority of these young men enlisted after Congress enacted legislation requiring seventeen-year olds to enroll in the junior reserves. During the late summer of 1864 two companies of junior reserves were added to this battalion and it became the 1st Alabama Junior Reserve Regiment. The regiment finally appears in the records as the 62nd Alabama just weeks before General Taylor surrendered his forces in Alabama and Mississippi. Most men over the age of fifty would have been in the County Reserves, which were state militia commands.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xhC.2ACE/742 Message Board Post: looking for information on James Henry Hollis who served in Company K , 62 nd Alabama Infantry .

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xhC.2ACE/507.515.514.516.1 Message Board Post: Lockhart's Battalion , Alabama Reserves , became the 62 th Alabama Infantry . All the unit's members , excluding officers , were under the age of sixteen , (16 ) or over the age of fifty , ( 50 ).

We're really talking about two different groups of people. Partisan Rangers as described in the original post organized just like other military commands, and operated with other mounted units as directed by superior officers appointed by the War Department. Union authorities recognized them as legitmate commands and treated captured members as prisoners of war. On the other hand, guerrilla bands weren't organized, never operated with other mounted units, and weren't under any other authority other than their own. They often claimed to be operating under legitimate authority, but the War Department never recognized them. Union authorities knew them to be illegitmate and treated captured members as criminals. There were any number of bands like Quantrell's operating in Missouri and other points throughout the South. They are nearly impossible to document because they created no standard military records and filed no reports. Many of these guerrilla bands would have looked for safety in other parts of the continent when Union troops occupied the Southern states. Sometimes soldiers deserted legimitate units and joined these guerrilla bands, but they were treated as outlaws if apprehended by Confederate authorities. With regard to Alabama in the Civil War, guerrillas and partisan rangers are not interchangable terms. -----Original Message----- From: The CARLSONS [mailto:davecarl@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:20 PM To: AL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AL-Civil War] Partisan Rangers Dena, I did run across an article in the book "That's Not In My American History Book" by Thomas Ayres. I, too, had an ancestor in the Partisan Rangers and wondered about the negative impression they received. He writes: "The Civil War that gave birth to the cattle industry and the American cowboy also spawned the outlaw gangs of the wild wild west. For a generation of young men, the war was their only education. This was especially so in those states west of the Mississippi River where guerrilla warfare prevailed. Loose-knit Confederate military units, known as partisan rangers early in the war, evolved into nothing more than outlaw bands in its latter stages. The James brothers of Missouri spent their teen years raiding and killing with William Quantrill's guerrilla band. At the end of the war, their entry into outlawry was a natural progression. In fact, their early robberies were carried out like military operations. Although the Jesse James gang was the most notorious of the post-Civil War outlaws, the pattern of armed criminal activity was repeated throughout the South and Southwest." I thought it was an interesting take on something about which I knew nothing. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dena Horton" <dreaming_yet_awake@hotmail.com> To: <AL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:51 PM Subject: [AL-Civil War] Partisan Rangers > Hello gang. I am looking for info about the Phillips clan in particular, > Thomas Jefferson Phillips from Walker County. > > On his tombstone it says 13th Ala. Part Rangers. Yet I have yet to find in > my limited resources. Does anyone have a list of these men? > > Here is what I know about the Rangers. > > 13th Alabama Battalion Partisan Rangers > (merged with 15th Battalion to form > 56th Alabama Regiment, Partisan Rangers > (Cavalry). > > > I also found some info that was a bit scary. It seems not many liked these > groups. Can someone explain just what they would have done? > > Thanks, > Dena > List Mom for AL-Civil War > List Mom for Threadgill > Come join us on Rootsweb! > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Dena, I did run across an article in the book "That's Not In My American History Book" by Thomas Ayres. I, too, had an ancestor in the Partisan Rangers and wondered about the negative impression they received. He writes: "The Civil War that gave birth to the cattle industry and the American cowboy also spawned the outlaw gangs of the wild wild west. For a generation of young men, the war was their only education. This was especially so in those states west of the Mississippi River where guerrilla warfare prevailed. Loose-knit Confederate military units, known as partisan rangers early in the war, evolved into nothing more than outlaw bands in its latter stages. The James brothers of Missouri spent their teen years raiding and killing with William Quantrill's guerrilla band. At the end of the war, their entry into outlawry was a natural progression. In fact, their early robberies were carried out like military operations. Although the Jesse James gang was the most notorious of the post-Civil War outlaws, the pattern of armed criminal activity was repeated throughout the South and Southwest." I thought it was an interesting take on something about which I knew nothing. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dena Horton" <dreaming_yet_awake@hotmail.com> To: <AL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 2:51 PM Subject: [AL-Civil War] Partisan Rangers > Hello gang. I am looking for info about the Phillips clan in particular, > Thomas Jefferson Phillips from Walker County. > > On his tombstone it says 13th Ala. Part Rangers. Yet I have yet to find in > my limited resources. Does anyone have a list of these men? > > Here is what I know about the Rangers. > > 13th Alabama Battalion Partisan Rangers > (merged with 15th Battalion to form > 56th Alabama Regiment, Partisan Rangers > (Cavalry). > > > I also found some info that was a bit scary. It seems not many liked these > groups. Can someone explain just what they would have done? > > Thanks, > Dena > List Mom for AL-Civil War > List Mom for Threadgill > Come join us on Rootsweb! > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

For what it's worth, I have access to both Alabama Confederate service records and Alabama pension applications. I'm willing to make copies and answer questions about them for a fee. Please contact me at pittsaj14@hotmail.com -----Original Message----- From: TRich97@aol.com [mailto:TRich97@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 7:32 PM To: AL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AL-Civil War] Service and Pension Records... I sent a request with payment to the State Archives. I got a response back saying they couldn't find my grandfather. I then sent a request to the National Archives and received the information I had requested. This was about a year ago. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

My great granduncle, Henry Miley Jones, enlisted in Co.D/I 21 AL Infantry in 1863 at Selma. The 21st Alabama Infantry participated in defending Mobile area from Jan. 1865 until its surrender May 5, 1865. Mobile was heavily fortified with 300 guns around it, island and shore batteries, and Spanish Fort and Fort Blakely. Spanish Fort was beseiged for 13 days by Gen. Canby's forces. The Confederates were overrun and most escaped by boats to Mobile. General Steel's Union forces attacked Fort Blakely on April 2, 1865. The Confederates numbered about 4000 and were not able to withstand the Union's 16,000 man attack. At Blakely about 3500 men were taken prisoners and sent to Ship Island, Mississippi. Henry Miley Jones was among those sent to Ship Island. After parole, he went home to Dallas Co., AL. where he lived until 1888 when he moved to Ouachita Parish, LA. August of 1911 he applied for pension in Louisiana. He died January 1932, Calhoun, LA.

My great granduncle, Samuel R. Jones, Jr. enlisted in 1st Ala. Infantry in Lowndes County, Capt. Stubbs company. They were sent to Island No. 10 off New Madrid, MO in the Mississippi River, along with the Eleventh Arkansas, the Forty-sixth Tennessee, and others. The Confederate position was fortified with 52 guns and the floating naval battery New Orleans with 9 guns. On March 15, 1862, Union fleet commander Andrew Foote arrived above Island No. 10 with 7 ironclad gunboats, 10 mortar boats, and transports ferrying 1200 men. On March 28, Col. Steedman, 1st Ala. Inf., wrote ".....they stood unmoved for eight hours in a terrific fire from at least twenty rifled guns and four 13-inch mortars, all at almost point-blank range....." Samuel R. Jones, Jr. died March 28, 1862. One year later his mother made a deposition to receive all monies due her son. The amount she received was pay for 1 month, 17 days at $11.00 per month, allowance for clothing $25.00, and enlistment bounty of $50.00 for a total of $92.23, which was paid on 19 July 1864. Martha Bridger Gates

I sent a request with payment to the State Archives. I got a response back saying they couldn't find my grandfather. I then sent a request to the National Archives and received the information I had requested. This was about a year ago.

I'd go with the state archives first too, especially if you live in Alabama where you get a discount. The National Archives is behind due to the post office being closed in Washington, DC after the Anthrax was found from what I have been told. ----- Original Message ----- From: Augustyn1@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 12:10 PM To: AL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [AL-Civil War] Service and Pension Records... Regarding obtaining confederate service records. I waited months and months and months for the Archives to send my ancestors. I had simply given up for it was well beyond the timeframe they had written on the form. On the other hand, I requested my ancestor's Pension Record from the Alabama Archives. Not only did they send it within the 2 weeks they specified. They also were kind enough to include my ancestor's Service Record as well(even though I had previously received it from the Archives). AND, they included his 2 brothers service records who also fought in the war. AND, they also looked for their Pension records, too. They went above and beyond. So, after this experience, I would definitely go to the state archives first. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Regarding obtaining confederate service records. I waited months and months and months for the Archives to send my ancestors. I had simply given up for it was well beyond the timeframe they had written on the form. On the other hand, I requested my ancestor's Pension Record from the Alabama Archives. Not only did they send it within the 2 weeks they specified. They also were kind enough to include my ancestor's Service Record as well(even though I had previously received it from the Archives). AND, they included his 2 brothers service records who also fought in the war. AND, they also looked for their Pension records, too. They went above and beyond. So, after this experience, I would definitely go to the state archives first.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xhC.2ACE/716.3 Message Board Post: The 6th Alabama Cavalry really got the worst of it in an action at Ten Islands Ford on the Coosa River. This is along the county line between Calhoun and St. Clair near a community called Greensport. The fighting took place on July 14, 1864. It's very carefully described in David Evans' book, "Sherman's Horsemen". Look at the chapters about Rousseau's Raid through Alabama.

Company "B" of the 7th Alabama was the "Calhoun Grays". First organized at Sulpher Springs, Ala., March 23, 1861, as the "Sulpher Springs Grays," officers and men entered state service on March 26, 1861. They enrolled in Confederate service at Barrancas, Fla., April 7, 1861, and disbanded at Fort Pillow, near Memphis, Tenn., a year later. Many former members joined either Company "D", 51st Alabama Partisan Rangers, or Company "K" of the 48th Alabama Infantry Regiment. Capt. Moses Lee of the latter had been 1st Lt. of Company "B", 7th Alabama Infantry. His company, the "Moore Rifles", was accepted in Confederate service at Mount Polk, Ala., May 3, 1862. Sulpher Springs and Mount Polk are both a short distance northwest of Jacksonville in Calhoun County, Ala. -----Original Message----- From: TRich97@aol.com [mailto:TRich97@aol.com] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 9:56 PM To: AL-CIVIL-WAR-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [AL-Civil War] 7th Al Infantry My gr gr grandfather, Newton Rich, was in Co. B of the 7th Alabama Infantry. When the 7th disband in April 1862, he joined the 48th Alabama Infantry, Co K. He died at the battle of Gettysburg. Here is some of the information I have on the company. Hope it helps! The 7th Alabama Infantry was organized at Pensacola, Florida on May 18, 1861, with 8 infantry and 2 mounted companies. It was composed of companies that had rendezvoused there from the counties of Autauga, Barbour, Butler, Calhoun, Chambers, Cherokee, Dallas, Jackson, Lauderdale, Madison, Montgomery, Pike, and Wilcox. It remained on duty there until it was ordered to Chattanoga, TN in November of 1861. One month later, the 7th was sent to Bowling Green, Kentucky. It was in a temporary brigade under Col. Sterling A. M. Wood, and it fell back with the army to Corinth, Mississippi. The time of service of the companies expired after 12 months during the first week in April, 1862, and the regiment disband. However, the 2 mounted companies from Autauga and Lauderdale retained their organization and fought at Shiloh, as did other men from the regiment. The mounted companies then became part of the 3rd Alabama Cavalry, and the majority of the remaining men and officers joined other organizations. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

My gr gr grandfather, Newton Rich, was in Co. B of the 7th Alabama Infantry. When the 7th disband in April 1862, he joined the 48th Alabama Infantry, Co K. He died at the battle of Gettysburg. Here is some of the information I have on the company. Hope it helps! The 7th Alabama Infantry was organized at Pensacola, Florida on May 18, 1861, with 8 infantry and 2 mounted companies. It was composed of companies that had rendezvoused there from the counties of Autauga, Barbour, Butler, Calhoun, Chambers, Cherokee, Dallas, Jackson, Lauderdale, Madison, Montgomery, Pike, and Wilcox. It remained on duty there until it was ordered to Chattanoga, TN in November of 1861. One month later, the 7th was sent to Bowling Green, Kentucky. It was in a temporary brigade under Col. Sterling A. M. Wood, and it fell back with the army to Corinth, Mississippi. The time of service of the companies expired after 12 months during the first week in April, 1862, and the regiment disband. However, the 2 mounted companies from Autauga and Lauderdale retained their organization and fought at Shiloh, as did other men from the regiment. The mounted companies then became part of the 3rd Alabama Cavalry, and the majority of the remaining men and officers joined other organizations.