I can transcribe, but my sources for the actual images is copyrighted and they tell me I can't share those. 1850 Coosa County, Alabama - Hatchet Creek Township - page 103 Lucy Simmons, age 40 or 70, born SC Sarah, age 30; born AL William, age 25; farmer; born AL Washington, age 14; born AL JOHN, age 10; born AL William, age 4; born AL 1850 Coosa County, Alabama - Hatchet Creek Township - page 108 283 - Benjamin Franklin, age 35; farmer; born GA Sarah, age 25; born GA Mary, age 7; born AL JOHN, age 5; born AL Melinda, age 4; born AL Thomas, age 1 month; born AL 1860 Coosa County, Alabama - Subdivision 2 - PO Mount Olive - page 296 518 - Lacy Simmons, age 55; Indian; $250/700; born AL Sally (Sarah), age 40; Indian; born AL Washington, age 21; Indian; farm labor; born AL TYLOR, age 20; Indian; farm labor; born AL William, age 15; Indian; farm labor; born AL I wasn't able to find Benjamin and Sarah Franklin indexed in 1860 or 1870 Alabama. Sorry. 1870 Coosa County, Alabama - Flint Hill Beat - page 400 71 - Franklin, J. T., age 25 male, white; farmer; $250/300; born AL W. S., age 3; male Indian; born AL Simmons, L., age 70; female; Indian; born AL 75 - Stublefield, William, age 23; male; Indian; farmer; /$100; born AL Nancy, age 23; female; white; born AL Elizabeth, age 2; female; Indian; born AL No name, age 7 months; male; Indian; born AL I think the above William is the same William in the household of Lucy Simmons in 1860. If he is a grandson of Lucy Simmons, then he is likely the son of Lucy's daughter (or daughter-in-law??), Sarah/Sally. I think perhaps John Tyler Franklin and perhaps Washington may belong to Sarah also. I hope this helps. Linda in Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Tammy" <[email protected]> To: "Linda Murray" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] Franklin's /Simmon's Coosa County > Do you have a copy of these census you could email me?I believe J.T > Franklin's son William was actually William Benjamin Franklin. Iam trying to > see if he is the one listed in the Guion Miller rolls,but can't afford the > paper work and it not be him. We are on a very,very tight budget.I believe > William to be my husbnad's grandad.My husband's dad was James Tyler Franklin > and looked very, very Indian from his pictures.Family legend has it that > William's father was killed in Rockford Alabama over his sheep or > goats.Family legend also states that either William or his dad was an Indian > medicine man. > Are you related to this family? > Maybe I'll get all the questions in and not have to bug you. > Thankyou so much, > Tammy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Murray" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 11:23 PM > Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] Franklin's /Simmon's Coosa County > > > > Tammy, > > > > This needs a lot more investigation, but I (personally) think that John > > Tyler Franklin may be the same person in the household of Lucy Simmons in > > the 1850 and 1860 census. In 1850 he was listed in the census as John, > age > > 10, and in 1860, he was called Tylor, age 20. In neither census year was > he > > named as Franklin, but perhaps didn't begin using his father's name until > he > > married and had a need to give his legal name. > > > > If indeed, he is the same person shown as age 25 in 1870, he was shown in > > the 1860 census as Indian. I am sure you noticed that in the 1870 census, > > both Lucy and JT's son, William, were enumerated as Indian, but JT was > not. > > > > Benjamin Franklin in 1850 Coosa County had a son named John whose age is a > > better match. He was 5 on the 1850 census, so would have been 25 in 1870 > > > > Linda in Georgia > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David & Tammy" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 9:50 AM > > Subject: [AL-CEN] Franklin's /Simmon's Coosa County > > > > > > > I have a big puzzle. > > > In the 1870 Coosa county Alabama census there is a J.T. Franklin > listed > > > with son William and housekeeper L. Simons{Simmons}.By the 1880 Coosa > > Census > > > I believe J.T. Franklin to be dead because William Franklin and Lucy > > > Simons{Simmons} age 85 are listed in the household of William > Stubblefield > > > and wife Nancy.William Franklin is listed as William Stubblefields > cousin > > > and Lucy Simons{Simmons} is listed as his grandmother.There were > Franklin > > > aires{Elizabeth Kelley} that married a William Stubblefield earlier. So > > with > > > William Franklin being a cousin to a Stubblefield. > > > I'm trying to make the link to Benjamin Dekalb Franklin {grandfather to > > > Elizabeth Kelley who married a William Stubblefield }and my William > > > Franklin.{Note} There is a marriage between a John T. Franklin and a > Selia > > > Dean in 1866 Coosa County Alabama . My William Franklin was born in > 1867. > > > According to family stories William's dad was killed in Rockford Alabama > > for > > > his sheep.William Franklin was born in 1866-67. > > > William Franklin's dad was said to be full Indian. There is a William > > > Benjamin Franklin listed in the Guion Miller Roll.William's son James > > Tyler > > > Franklin looks like he is of Native American descent int the pics we > have > > of > > > him. Thru family folklore William Franklin or his dad was a medicine > man. > > > Please,any help, > > > my husband is not in good health and I promised him I would find his > tree > > > before. > > > Tammy > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > > > Free Soundex code converter > > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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