Thanks a lot, Linda. Josephine was supposed to have married Francis Slattery 1st and she was listed as Josephine Slattery in an 1870 census, but she was in the home of her mother, so I thought perhaps Francis had died by then because on the LDS site, it says that Josephine Slattery married Abraham Keller in Montgomery, Alabama, on 8/29/1867, but I can't find any record of that marriage other than that....and why wouldn't she be listed in that 1870 census as Josephine Keller? Then she married Fritz Hinderer on 5/2/1872. I'm just wondering if the info about Abraham Keller is wrong. Oh well, the search continues. Thanks again, Melissa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Murray" <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER > Melissa, > Josephine was married to Fritz Hinderer on the 1880 Montgomery County > census, and no, there's no surviving 1890 census for Montgomery, to my > knowledge. > > In 1880 you will find them listed in Montgomery County, City of > Montgomery, and I am sure you already know that the 1880 census is online > and free at the LDS website, > http://www.familysearch.org > > In 1880 Josephine is shown as age 30, born in Alabama; her parents born in > Switzerland and Baden (Ger). In that census year, Fritz and Josephine are > shown with four children: > Mary, age 15, (who I am sure should be Mary Slattery, and the same as the > Mary shown as age 4 in 1870) > Charley, age 6; Jacob, age 5; and Josephine, age 3. > > By 1900, it appears that both Fritz and Josephine had died, because four > of the Hinderer children are shown in the household of their uncle, Jacob > (Jake) Sutter: > > 1900 Montgomery County, Alabama - Precinct 5 - Montgomery City, Ward 5 - > June 9, 1900 - ED 107/Sheet 14B > 513 Madison Avenue > 338 - Sutter, Jake, head; Feb 1852, age 48; single; AL GER SWIT; grocer; > house (owns? rents?) > Hinderer, Mary, niece; May 1870, age 30; single; AL GER AL > Josephine, niece; Jul 1877, age 22; single; AL GER AL > Frederick, nephew; Jun 1880, age 19; single; AL GER AL; > clerk/grocery store > Edward, nephew; Nov 1884, age 15; AL GER AL; clerk/fish company > > I hope this helps you get Josephine's marriages in order. > > Linda in Georgia > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Melissa Parker > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:37 AM > Subject: [AL-CEN] Please Disregard the 1870 request for Keller in > Montgomery > > > Please disregard that request I just sent - I seem to have answered my > own question. Josephine was not with Abraham Keller in 1870 - she was in > a census with her parents and siblings and listed as Josephine Slattery. > Abraham Keller was supposed to have been her 2nd husband, but I really > can't find room for him. Fritz Hinderer was supposed to be her 3rd > husband, so I was wondering if someone could check the 1900 census for > Montgomery for the family of Fritz Hinderer, born abour 1835, and wife > Josephine. By the way, is there an 1890 census for Montgomery? Thank you > very much for your help. > > Melissa > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > Free Soundex code converter > http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To view completed census transcriptions online > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1193 (20050812) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

Melissa, Look for a recorded marriage license in Montgomery County - don't rely on personal submissions to the LDS. The marriage to Abe Keller is possible, timewise, of course, but may have not lasted for a very long time. A lot happened in those days in the ways of births and deaths in a ten year period. As for being enumerated as Slattery in 1870, she may have simply reverted to that surname because she had Slattery children. ----- Original Message ----- From: Melissa Parker To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER Thanks a lot, Linda. Josephine was supposed to have married Francis Slattery 1st and she was listed as Josephine Slattery in an 1870 census, but she was in the home of her mother, so I thought perhaps Francis had died by then because on the LDS site, it says that Josephine Slattery married Abraham Keller in Montgomery, Alabama, on 8/29/1867, but I can't find any record of that marriage other than that....and why wouldn't she be listed in that 1870 census as Josephine Keller? Then she married Fritz Hinderer on 5/2/1872. I'm just wondering if the info about Abraham Keller is wrong. Oh well, the search continues. Thanks again, Melissa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Murray" <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER > Melissa, > Josephine was married to Fritz Hinderer on the 1880 Montgomery County > census, and no, there's no surviving 1890 census for Montgomery, to my > knowledge. > > In 1880 you will find them listed in Montgomery County, City of > Montgomery, and I am sure you already know that the 1880 census is online > and free at the LDS website, > http://www.familysearch.org > > In 1880 Josephine is shown as age 30, born in Alabama; her parents born in > Switzerland and Baden (Ger). In that census year, Fritz and Josephine are > shown with four children: > Mary, age 15, (who I am sure should be Mary Slattery, and the same as the > Mary shown as age 4 in 1870) > Charley, age 6; Jacob, age 5; and Josephine, age 3. > > By 1900, it appears that both Fritz and Josephine had died, because four > of the Hinderer children are shown in the household of their uncle, Jacob > (Jake) Sutter: > > 1900 Montgomery County, Alabama - Precinct 5 - Montgomery City, Ward 5 - > June 9, 1900 - ED 107/Sheet 14B > 513 Madison Avenue > 338 - Sutter, Jake, head; Feb 1852, age 48; single; AL GER SWIT; grocer; > house (owns? rents?) > Hinderer, Mary, niece; May 1870, age 30; single; AL GER AL > Josephine, niece; Jul 1877, age 22; single; AL GER AL > Frederick, nephew; Jun 1880, age 19; single; AL GER AL; > clerk/grocery store > Edward, nephew; Nov 1884, age 15; AL GER AL; clerk/fish company > > I hope this helps you get Josephine's marriages in order. > > Linda in Georgia > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Melissa Parker > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:37 AM > Subject: [AL-CEN] Please Disregard the 1870 request for Keller in > Montgomery > > > Please disregard that request I just sent - I seem to have answered my > own question. Josephine was not with Abraham Keller in 1870 - she was in > a census with her parents and siblings and listed as Josephine Slattery. > Abraham Keller was supposed to have been her 2nd husband, but I really > can't find room for him. Fritz Hinderer was supposed to be her 3rd > husband, so I was wondering if someone could check the 1900 census for > Montgomery for the family of Fritz Hinderer, born abour 1835, and wife > Josephine. By the way, is there an 1890 census for Montgomery? Thank you > very much for your help. > > Melissa > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > Free Soundex code converter > http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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Thanks Linda, that is possible that she did revert back to Slattery because she didn't have any children with Keller, or the info on the LDS site was wrong. I will be researching that marriage further. I appreciate your help. Melissa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Murray" <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER > Melissa, > Look for a recorded marriage license in Montgomery County - don't rely on > personal submissions to the LDS. The marriage to Abe Keller is possible, > timewise, of course, but may have not lasted for a very long time. A lot > happened in those days in the ways of births and deaths in a ten year > period. As for being enumerated as Slattery in 1870, she may have simply > reverted to that surname because she had Slattery children. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Melissa Parker > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 10:11 AM > Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER > > > Thanks a lot, Linda. Josephine was supposed to have married Francis > Slattery 1st and she was listed as Josephine Slattery in an 1870 census, > but > she was in the home of her mother, so I thought perhaps Francis had died > by > then because on the LDS site, it says that Josephine Slattery married > Abraham Keller in Montgomery, Alabama, on 8/29/1867, but I can't find any > record of that marriage other than that....and why wouldn't she be listed > in > that 1870 census as Josephine Keller? Then she married Fritz Hinderer on > 5/2/1872. I'm just wondering if the info about Abraham Keller is wrong. > Oh > well, the search continues. Thanks again, > > Melissa > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Murray" <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> > To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:58 AM > Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER > > > > Melissa, > > Josephine was married to Fritz Hinderer on the 1880 Montgomery County > > census, and no, there's no surviving 1890 census for Montgomery, to my > > knowledge. > > > > In 1880 you will find them listed in Montgomery County, City of > > Montgomery, and I am sure you already know that the 1880 census is > online > > and free at the LDS website, > > http://www.familysearch.org > > > > In 1880 Josephine is shown as age 30, born in Alabama; her parents born > in > > Switzerland and Baden (Ger). In that census year, Fritz and Josephine > are > > shown with four children: > > Mary, age 15, (who I am sure should be Mary Slattery, and the same as > the > > Mary shown as age 4 in 1870) > > Charley, age 6; Jacob, age 5; and Josephine, age 3. > > > > By 1900, it appears that both Fritz and Josephine had died, because > four > > of the Hinderer children are shown in the household of their uncle, > Jacob > > (Jake) Sutter: > > > > 1900 Montgomery County, Alabama - Precinct 5 - Montgomery City, Ward > 5 - > > June 9, 1900 - ED 107/Sheet 14B > > 513 Madison Avenue > > 338 - Sutter, Jake, head; Feb 1852, age 48; single; AL GER SWIT; > grocer; > > house (owns? rents?) > > Hinderer, Mary, niece; May 1870, age 30; single; AL GER AL > > Josephine, niece; Jul 1877, age 22; single; AL GER AL > > Frederick, nephew; Jun 1880, age 19; single; AL GER AL; > > clerk/grocery store > > Edward, nephew; Nov 1884, age 15; AL GER AL; clerk/fish > company > > > > I hope this helps you get Josephine's marriages in order. > > > > Linda in Georgia > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Melissa Parker > > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:37 AM > > Subject: [AL-CEN] Please Disregard the 1870 request for Keller in > > Montgomery > > > > > > Please disregard that request I just sent - I seem to have answered my > > own question. Josephine was not with Abraham Keller in 1870 - she was > in > > a census with her parents and siblings and listed as Josephine > Slattery. > > Abraham Keller was supposed to have been her 2nd husband, but I really > > can't find room for him. Fritz Hinderer was supposed to be her 3rd > > husband, so I was wondering if someone could check the 1900 census for > > Montgomery for the family of Fritz Hinderer, born abour 1835, and wife > > Josephine. By the way, is there an 1890 census for Montgomery? Thank > you > > very much for your help. > > > > Melissa > > > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > > Free Soundex code converter > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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Melissa Here are the LDS film reference for Josephine's marriages. You might want to order this roll of microfilm so you can actually eye-ball the records because there seems to be a big descrepancy in the names you're working from. That will send you off into left field with many frustrating hours of spinning your wheels 1503753 M593021 SLATTERY, Thomas C. Marriage Wife: Josephine SUTTER Marriage Date: 10 Jan 1865 Recorded in: Montgomery, Alabama Source: FHL Number 1492093 Dates: 1864-1874 1504276 M593021 KELLER, Abraham Marriage Wife: Josephine SLATTERY Marriage Date: 29 Aug 1867 Recorded in: Montgomery, Alabama Source: FHL Number 1492093 Dates: 1864-1874 1504966 M593021 HINDEREN, Gottlieb T. Marriage Wife: Josephine SLATERY Marriage Date: 2 May 1872 Recorded in: Montgomery, Alabama Source: FHL Number 1492093 Dates: 1864-1874 Melissa Parker wrote: > Thanks Linda, that is possible that she did revert back to Slattery > because she didn't have any children with Keller, or the info on the > LDS site was wrong. I will be researching that marriage further. I > appreciate your help. > > Melissa > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Murray" > <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> > To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:40 AM > Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER > > >> Melissa, >> Look for a recorded marriage license in Montgomery County - don't >> rely on personal submissions to the LDS. The marriage to Abe Keller >> is possible, timewise, of course, but may have not lasted for a very >> long time. A lot happened in those days in the ways of births and >> deaths in a ten year period. As for being enumerated as Slattery in >> 1870, she may have simply reverted to that surname because she had >> Slattery children. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: Melissa Parker >> To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 10:11 AM >> Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER >> >> >> Thanks a lot, Linda. Josephine was supposed to have married Francis >> Slattery 1st and she was listed as Josephine Slattery in an 1870 >> census, but >> she was in the home of her mother, so I thought perhaps Francis had >> died by >> then because on the LDS site, it says that Josephine Slattery married >> Abraham Keller in Montgomery, Alabama, on 8/29/1867, but I can't >> find any >> record of that marriage other than that....and why wouldn't she be >> listed in >> that 1870 census as Josephine Keller? Then she married Fritz >> Hinderer on >> 5/2/1872. I'm just wondering if the info about Abraham Keller is >> wrong. Oh >> well, the search continues. Thanks again, >> >> Melissa >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Murray" >> <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> >> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:58 AM >> Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER >> >> >> > Melissa, >> > Josephine was married to Fritz Hinderer on the 1880 Montgomery County >> > census, and no, there's no surviving 1890 census for Montgomery, >> to my >> > knowledge. >> > >> > In 1880 you will find them listed in Montgomery County, City of >> > Montgomery, and I am sure you already know that the 1880 census is >> online >> > and free at the LDS website, >> > http://www.familysearch.org >> > >> > In 1880 Josephine is shown as age 30, born in Alabama; her parents >> born in >> > Switzerland and Baden (Ger). In that census year, Fritz and >> Josephine are >> > shown with four children: >> > Mary, age 15, (who I am sure should be Mary Slattery, and the same >> as the >> > Mary shown as age 4 in 1870) >> > Charley, age 6; Jacob, age 5; and Josephine, age 3. >> > >> > By 1900, it appears that both Fritz and Josephine had died, >> because four >> > of the Hinderer children are shown in the household of their >> uncle, Jacob >> > (Jake) Sutter: >> > >> > 1900 Montgomery County, Alabama - Precinct 5 - Montgomery City, >> Ward 5 - >> > June 9, 1900 - ED 107/Sheet 14B >> > 513 Madison Avenue >> > 338 - Sutter, Jake, head; Feb 1852, age 48; single; AL GER SWIT; >> grocer; >> > house (owns? rents?) >> > Hinderer, Mary, niece; May 1870, age 30; single; AL GER AL >> > Josephine, niece; Jul 1877, age 22; single; AL GER AL >> > Frederick, nephew; Jun 1880, age 19; single; AL GER AL; >> > clerk/grocery store >> > Edward, nephew; Nov 1884, age 15; AL GER AL; clerk/fish >> company >> > >> > I hope this helps you get Josephine's marriages in order. >> > >> > Linda in Georgia >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Melissa Parker >> > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com >> > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:37 AM >> > Subject: [AL-CEN] Please Disregard the 1870 request for Keller in >> > Montgomery >> > >> > >> > Please disregard that request I just sent - I seem to have >> answered my >> > own question. Josephine was not with Abraham Keller in 1870 - she >> was in >> > a census with her parents and siblings and listed as Josephine >> Slattery. >> > Abraham Keller was supposed to have been her 2nd husband, but I >> really >> > can't find room for him. Fritz Hinderer was supposed to be her 3rd >> > husband, so I was wondering if someone could check the 1900 census >> for >> > Montgomery for the family of Fritz Hinderer, born abour 1835, and >> wife >> > Josephine. By the way, is there an 1890 census for Montgomery? >> Thank you >> > very much for your help. >> > >> > Melissa >> > >> > >> > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== >> > Free Soundex code converter >> > http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter >> > >> > ============================== >> > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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Terry, I have been looking for records of my grandparents marriage, with no luck. What do you do to find them at the LDS ? Also, since they were married in Alabama, would I need to check in Montgomery? I know they married 1917/1918, supposedly in Gadsden, Etowah Co. She was from St. Clair Co., but there is no record of them there, nor Calhoun Co. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Jackson" <jacksont@otelco.net> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER > Melissa > Here are the LDS film reference for Josephine's marriages. You might want > to order this roll of > microfilm so you can actually eye-ball the records because there seems to > be a big descrepancy in the names you're working from. That will send you > off into left field with many frustrating hours of spinning your wheels > > 1503753 M593021 > SLATTERY, Thomas C. Marriage Wife: Josephine SUTTER > Marriage Date: 10 Jan 1865 Recorded in: Montgomery, Alabama > Source: FHL Number 1492093 Dates: 1864-1874 > > 1504276 M593021 > KELLER, Abraham Marriage Wife: Josephine SLATTERY > Marriage Date: 29 Aug 1867 Recorded in: Montgomery, Alabama > Source: FHL Number 1492093 Dates: 1864-1874 > > 1504966 M593021 > HINDEREN, Gottlieb T. Marriage Wife: Josephine SLATERY > Marriage Date: 2 May 1872 Recorded in: Montgomery, Alabama > Source: FHL Number 1492093 Dates: 1864-1874 > > > Melissa Parker wrote: > >> Thanks Linda, that is possible that she did revert back to Slattery >> because she didn't have any children with Keller, or the info on the LDS >> site was wrong. I will be researching that marriage further. I >> appreciate your help. >> >> Melissa >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Murray" >> <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> >> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:40 AM >> Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER >> >> >>> Melissa, >>> Look for a recorded marriage license in Montgomery County - don't rely >>> on personal submissions to the LDS. The marriage to Abe Keller is >>> possible, timewise, of course, but may have not lasted for a very long >>> time. A lot happened in those days in the ways of births and deaths in >>> a ten year period. As for being enumerated as Slattery in 1870, she may >>> have simply reverted to that surname because she had Slattery children. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Melissa Parker >>> To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 10:11 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER >>> >>> >>> Thanks a lot, Linda. Josephine was supposed to have married Francis >>> Slattery 1st and she was listed as Josephine Slattery in an 1870 >>> census, but >>> she was in the home of her mother, so I thought perhaps Francis had >>> died by >>> then because on the LDS site, it says that Josephine Slattery married >>> Abraham Keller in Montgomery, Alabama, on 8/29/1867, but I can't find >>> any >>> record of that marriage other than that....and why wouldn't she be >>> listed in >>> that 1870 census as Josephine Keller? Then she married Fritz Hinderer >>> on >>> 5/2/1872. I'm just wondering if the info about Abraham Keller is >>> wrong. Oh >>> well, the search continues. Thanks again, >>> >>> Melissa >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Murray" >>> <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> >>> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:58 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER >>> >>> >>> > Melissa, >>> > Josephine was married to Fritz Hinderer on the 1880 Montgomery County >>> > census, and no, there's no surviving 1890 census for Montgomery, to >>> my >>> > knowledge. >>> > >>> > In 1880 you will find them listed in Montgomery County, City of >>> > Montgomery, and I am sure you already know that the 1880 census is >>> online >>> > and free at the LDS website, >>> > http://www.familysearch.org >>> > >>> > In 1880 Josephine is shown as age 30, born in Alabama; her parents >>> born in >>> > Switzerland and Baden (Ger). In that census year, Fritz and >>> Josephine are >>> > shown with four children: >>> > Mary, age 15, (who I am sure should be Mary Slattery, and the same as >>> the >>> > Mary shown as age 4 in 1870) >>> > Charley, age 6; Jacob, age 5; and Josephine, age 3. >>> > >>> > By 1900, it appears that both Fritz and Josephine had died, because >>> four >>> > of the Hinderer children are shown in the household of their uncle, >>> Jacob >>> > (Jake) Sutter: >>> > >>> > 1900 Montgomery County, Alabama - Precinct 5 - Montgomery City, Ward >>> 5 - >>> > June 9, 1900 - ED 107/Sheet 14B >>> > 513 Madison Avenue >>> > 338 - Sutter, Jake, head; Feb 1852, age 48; single; AL GER SWIT; >>> grocer; >>> > house (owns? rents?) >>> > Hinderer, Mary, niece; May 1870, age 30; single; AL GER AL >>> > Josephine, niece; Jul 1877, age 22; single; AL GER AL >>> > Frederick, nephew; Jun 1880, age 19; single; AL GER AL; >>> > clerk/grocery store >>> > Edward, nephew; Nov 1884, age 15; AL GER AL; clerk/fish >>> company >>> > >>> > I hope this helps you get Josephine's marriages in order. >>> > >>> > Linda in Georgia >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Melissa Parker >>> > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com >>> > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:37 AM >>> > Subject: [AL-CEN] Please Disregard the 1870 request for Keller in >>> > Montgomery >>> > >>> > >>> > Please disregard that request I just sent - I seem to have answered >>> my >>> > own question. Josephine was not with Abraham Keller in 1870 - she >>> was in >>> > a census with her parents and siblings and listed as Josephine >>> Slattery. >>> > Abraham Keller was supposed to have been her 2nd husband, but I >>> really >>> > can't find room for him. Fritz Hinderer was supposed to be her 3rd >>> > husband, so I was wondering if someone could check the 1900 census >>> for >>> > Montgomery for the family of Fritz Hinderer, born abour 1835, and >>> wife >>> > Josephine. By the way, is there an 1890 census for Montgomery? >>> Thank you >>> > very much for your help. >>> > >>> > Melissa >>> > >>> > >>> > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== >>> > Free Soundex code converter >>> > http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter >>> > >>> > ============================== >>> > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >>> > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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Yes thank you, Terry, That first one has been very confusing also because Thomas C. Slattery died in December of 1865, which meant they were only married for about 11 months, and Josephine had two children by the name of Slattery. Family records indicated that she was married to a Francis Albert Slattery. Then there's the big question I have about Abraham Keller also being incorrect. I'll have to check into that further. Thanks again, Melissa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Jackson" <jacksont@otelco.net> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER > Melissa > Here are the LDS film reference for Josephine's marriages. You might want > to order this roll of > microfilm so you can actually eye-ball the records because there seems to > be a big descrepancy in the names you're working from. That will send you > off into left field with many frustrating hours of spinning your wheels > > 1503753 M593021 > SLATTERY, Thomas C. Marriage Wife: Josephine SUTTER > Marriage Date: 10 Jan 1865 Recorded in: Montgomery, Alabama > Source: FHL Number 1492093 Dates: 1864-1874 > > 1504276 M593021 > KELLER, Abraham Marriage Wife: Josephine SLATTERY > Marriage Date: 29 Aug 1867 Recorded in: Montgomery, Alabama > Source: FHL Number 1492093 Dates: 1864-1874 > > 1504966 M593021 > HINDEREN, Gottlieb T. Marriage Wife: Josephine SLATERY > Marriage Date: 2 May 1872 Recorded in: Montgomery, Alabama > Source: FHL Number 1492093 Dates: 1864-1874 > > > Melissa Parker wrote: > >> Thanks Linda, that is possible that she did revert back to Slattery >> because she didn't have any children with Keller, or the info on the LDS >> site was wrong. I will be researching that marriage further. I >> appreciate your help. >> >> Melissa >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Murray" >> <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> >> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:40 AM >> Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER >> >> >>> Melissa, >>> Look for a recorded marriage license in Montgomery County - don't rely >>> on personal submissions to the LDS. The marriage to Abe Keller is >>> possible, timewise, of course, but may have not lasted for a very long >>> time. A lot happened in those days in the ways of births and deaths in >>> a ten year period. As for being enumerated as Slattery in 1870, she may >>> have simply reverted to that surname because she had Slattery children. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Melissa Parker >>> To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 10:11 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER >>> >>> >>> Thanks a lot, Linda. Josephine was supposed to have married Francis >>> Slattery 1st and she was listed as Josephine Slattery in an 1870 >>> census, but >>> she was in the home of her mother, so I thought perhaps Francis had >>> died by >>> then because on the LDS site, it says that Josephine Slattery married >>> Abraham Keller in Montgomery, Alabama, on 8/29/1867, but I can't find >>> any >>> record of that marriage other than that....and why wouldn't she be >>> listed in >>> that 1870 census as Josephine Keller? Then she married Fritz Hinderer >>> on >>> 5/2/1872. I'm just wondering if the info about Abraham Keller is >>> wrong. Oh >>> well, the search continues. Thanks again, >>> >>> Melissa >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Murray" >>> <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> >>> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:58 AM >>> Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1900/Montgomery/HINDERER >>> >>> >>> > Melissa, >>> > Josephine was married to Fritz Hinderer on the 1880 Montgomery County >>> > census, and no, there's no surviving 1890 census for Montgomery, to >>> my >>> > knowledge. >>> > >>> > In 1880 you will find them listed in Montgomery County, City of >>> > Montgomery, and I am sure you already know that the 1880 census is >>> online >>> > and free at the LDS website, >>> > http://www.familysearch.org >>> > >>> > In 1880 Josephine is shown as age 30, born in Alabama; her parents >>> born in >>> > Switzerland and Baden (Ger). In that census year, Fritz and >>> Josephine are >>> > shown with four children: >>> > Mary, age 15, (who I am sure should be Mary Slattery, and the same as >>> the >>> > Mary shown as age 4 in 1870) >>> > Charley, age 6; Jacob, age 5; and Josephine, age 3. >>> > >>> > By 1900, it appears that both Fritz and Josephine had died, because >>> four >>> > of the Hinderer children are shown in the household of their uncle, >>> Jacob >>> > (Jake) Sutter: >>> > >>> > 1900 Montgomery County, Alabama - Precinct 5 - Montgomery City, Ward >>> 5 - >>> > June 9, 1900 - ED 107/Sheet 14B >>> > 513 Madison Avenue >>> > 338 - Sutter, Jake, head; Feb 1852, age 48; single; AL GER SWIT; >>> grocer; >>> > house (owns? rents?) >>> > Hinderer, Mary, niece; May 1870, age 30; single; AL GER AL >>> > Josephine, niece; Jul 1877, age 22; single; AL GER AL >>> > Frederick, nephew; Jun 1880, age 19; single; AL GER AL; >>> > clerk/grocery store >>> > Edward, nephew; Nov 1884, age 15; AL GER AL; clerk/fish >>> company >>> > >>> > I hope this helps you get Josephine's marriages in order. >>> > >>> > Linda in Georgia >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Melissa Parker >>> > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com >>> > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:37 AM >>> > Subject: [AL-CEN] Please Disregard the 1870 request for Keller in >>> > Montgomery >>> > >>> > >>> > Please disregard that request I just sent - I seem to have answered >>> my >>> > own question. Josephine was not with Abraham Keller in 1870 - she >>> was in >>> > a census with her parents and siblings and listed as Josephine >>> Slattery. >>> > Abraham Keller was supposed to have been her 2nd husband, but I >>> really >>> > can't find room for him. Fritz Hinderer was supposed to be her 3rd >>> > husband, so I was wondering if someone could check the 1900 census >>> for >>> > Montgomery for the family of Fritz Hinderer, born abour 1835, and >>> wife >>> > Josephine. By the way, is there an 1890 census for Montgomery? >>> Thank you >>> > very much for your help. >>> > >>> > Melissa >>> > >>> > >>> > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== >>> > Free Soundex code converter >>> > http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter >>> > >>> > ============================== >>> > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >>> > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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