Winnette, Since I don't have dates or race to go on, I'm sending some possibilities to give you something to research. There were no Stinsons in Birmingham in 1880, but these are some Stinsons with William, Willie (found no Wiley) in Alabama: Census Place: Township 10, Cherokee, Alabama Source: FHL Film 1254006 National Archives Film T9-0006 Page 358B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Samuel STINSON Self M M W 30 AL Occ: Farmer Fa: SC Mo: GA Atha STINSON Wife F M W 28 GA Occ: Keeps House Fa: GA Mo: GA John STINSON Son M S W 7 GA Occ: At School Fa: GA Mo: GA Willie STINSON Son M S W 5 GA Fa: GA Mo: GA Calla STINSON Dau F S W 4 GA Fa: GA Mo: GA Eva STINSON Dau F S W 2 GA Fa: GA Mo: GA Babe STINSON Dau F S W 6M GA Fa: GA Mo: GA John EARLY Other M S W 21 GA Occ: Works On Farm Fa: GA Mo: GA ----------------------------------------- Census Place: Beat 4 And 9, Morgan, Alabama Source: FHL Film 1254027 National Archives Film T9-0027 Page 132B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Martin STINSON Self M M W 30 AL Occ: Farmer Fa: NC Mo: AL Arabella STINSON Wife F M W 28 AL Occ: Housekeeper Fa: AL Mo: AL Alonzo STINSON Son M S W 9 AL Fa: AL Mo: AL Oscar STINSON Son M S W 7 AL Fa: AL Mo: AL William STINSON Son M S W 5 AL Fa: AL Mo: AL Cyrus STINSON Son M S W 3 AL Fa: AL Mo: AL Minnie STINSON Dau F S W 1 AL Fa: AL Mo: AL --------------------------------------- Census Place: Township 12, Steel Station, St. Clair, Alabama Source: FHL Film 1254031 National Archives Film T9-0031 Page 72A Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Augustus MARONIA Self M M W 28 GA Occ: Farmer Fa: --- Mo: --- Mary MARONIA Wife F M W 27 AL Occ: Keeping House Fa: --- Mo: --- Albert MARONIA Son M S W 2 AL Fa: AL Mo: AL Toliver MARONIA Son M S W 1 AL Fa: AL Mo: AL Barbory A. STINSON SDau F S W 13 AL Occ: At Home Fa: AL Mo: AL William STINSON SSon M S W 10 AL Occ: At Home Fa: AL Mo: AL John STINSON SSon M S W 8 AL Fa: AL Mo: AL ------------------------------------ Census Place: Township 10, Cherokee, Alabama Source: FHL Film 1254006 National Archives Film T9-0006 Page 358B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace John STINSON Self M M W 57 SC Occ: Farmer Fa: SC Mo: SC Barbara STINSON Wife F M W 52 GA Occ: Keeps House Fa: GA Mo: GA Julius STINSON Son M S W 27 AL Occ: Works In Saw Mill Fa: SC Mo: GA Thomas STINSON Son M S W 22 AL Occ: Works On Farm Fa: SC Mo: GA Elizabeth STINSON Dau F S W 18 AL Occ: At School Fa: SC Mo: GA Benny STINSON Son M S W 17 AL Occ: At School Fa: SC Mo: GA William STINSON Son M S W 13 AL Occ: At School Fa: SC Mo: GA Hattie STINSON Dau F S W 9 AL Occ: At School Fa: SC Mo: GA Lou CLARK Other F S B 19 AL Occ: Works In House Fa: SC Mo: GA Lidia BATES MotherL F W W 73 GA Occ: Boarder Fa: GA Mo: GA ==================================== This is what the National Index showed for Wiley Stinson: STINSON, Wily Self <1840> M B SC GA STINSON, Willie Self <1856> M W LA LA STINSON, Willie L. Son <1866> M W ME ME STINSON, Willie Son <1866> M W IN IN STINSON, Wily Son <1868> M B GA GA STINSON, Willie Son <1868> M W MO IL STINSON, Willie Son <1870> M W NY NY STINSON, Willie Son <1875> M B AL AL STINSON, Willie Son <1875> M W GA AL STINSON, Willie Lee Son <1877> M W VA VA STINSON, Willie Son <1877> M W MA MA STINSON, Willie Son <1877> M W PA PA STINSON, Willie Son <1878> M B MS MS STINSON, Willie E. Son <1878> M W KY KY STINSON, Willie Nephew <1879> M W NY NY STINSON, Willie Son <1879> M B AL AL STINSON, Willie Son <1879> M W MS MS STINSON, Willie Other <1879> M B MO MO STINSON, Wiley Son <1880> M B GA GA Good luck! Hope you find him! Marci Marci Shaw Peralez "If you can't get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well dance with it." - George Bernard Shaw ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg And Winnette To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: [AL-CEN] 1880/Jefferson Co./Stinson Looking for Wiley Lafayette Stinson on a census with parents and hopefully siblings. He had a son Walter Lafayette Stinson born March 02, 1893 in Birmingham. Hoping they are listed on the Census for 1880 Thanks, Winnette --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release Date: 12/4/01 ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== To transcribe a census please volunteer at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/map.htm ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237