That my good man is what I get for not paying attention and I should know better...Thank you for not saying bad things about my dumbness and I will try to get this back on a straight line.....Thanks again...docjones ----- Original Message ----- From: <wmcconne@bellsouth.net> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census > Doc, > > I don't see what you are looking at in 1880. Are you positive that you are not looking at Montgomery Co in 1880? That sure sounds like the Patrick that I see there. > > Docjones35 wrote: > > > Thanks for the update..I am checking to see, but I am sure this is the > > right one....Patrick and Margaret married abt 1852 in Mobile and in the > > 1880 census they had a house full of kids...and in looking at the 1880 > > listing I see that both of them and their parents as well were born in > > Ireland.....He may well have come to this country with someone other than > > his mother and father and that is something I will have to look > > at.....thanks again for your information...docjones > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <wmcconne@bellsouth.net> > > To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 3:00 PM > > Subject: Re: Re: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census > > > > > Doc, > > > > > > I don't see your guy in Mobile county. But in 1860 through at least 1900 > > there is a Patrick Robinson married to a Margaret and right age for your > > Robert living in Montgomery county. This Patrick and Margaret were married > > about 1850. They had about 9 children. Patrick is a grocer/merchant. One > > of his sons became a lawyer and one a dentist. Anything sound familar? > > > > > > > > From: "Linda Murray" <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> > > > > Date: 2005/06/23 Thu AM 09:36:39 CDT > > > > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census > > > > > > > > Doc, > > > > I don't find any Pat, Patrick, or P. Robinson/Roberson, etc indexed > > anywhere in 1850 Alabama. > > > > > > > > Other than the fact that he married in Mobile County, what else do you > > know? Most helpful would be the place of birth for both Patrick and that of > > his parents (if he lived to the 1880 census enumeration, which is the first > > to pose that question). > > > > > > > > Sorry not to be able to help, > > > > Linda in Georgia > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Docjones35 > > > > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:26 PM > > > > Subject: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for the parents of Patrick Robinson, who in 1850 should have > > been about 18 years of age. Believed to have been living in or near Mobile > > Al during that period.....He married Margaret Byrne in Oct 1852 in > > Mobile...any help greatly appreciated...docjones, Melbourne FL > > cjones5@cfl.rr.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > > > > To Unsub from regular mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to > > > > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it > > with your state abbreviation ) > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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Doc, I have senior moments as well. If that's your Patrick, he is there 1860 through at least 1900...I didn't look any further. The 1900 is interesting. It shows that both Patrick and Margaret came to America in 1846. The question is where did they enter. The 1900 gives another interesting clue. A daughter is shown (widowed) living with them and her birthplace is shown as New York. In one of the earlier records she is shown as born in Alabama. Docjones35 wrote: > That my good man is what I get for not paying attention and I should know > better...Thank you for not saying bad things about my dumbness and I will > try to get this back on a straight line.....Thanks again...docjones > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <wmcconne@bellsouth.net> > To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census > > > Doc, > > > > I don't see what you are looking at in 1880. Are you positive that you are > not looking at Montgomery Co in 1880? That sure sounds like the Patrick that > I see there. > > > > Docjones35 wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the update..I am checking to see, but I am sure this is the > > > right one....Patrick and Margaret married abt 1852 in Mobile and in the > > > 1880 census they had a house full of kids...and in looking at the 1880 > > > listing I see that both of them and their parents as well were born in > > > Ireland.....He may well have come to this country with someone other > than > > > his mother and father and that is something I will have to look > > > at.....thanks again for your information...docjones > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <wmcconne@bellsouth.net> > > > To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 3:00 PM > > > Subject: Re: Re: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census > > > > > > > Doc, > > > > > > > > I don't see your guy in Mobile county. But in 1860 through at least > 1900 > > > there is a Patrick Robinson married to a Margaret and right age for your > > > Robert living in Montgomery county. This Patrick and Margaret were > married > > > about 1850. They had about 9 children. Patrick is a grocer/merchant. > One > > > of his sons became a lawyer and one a dentist. Anything sound familar? > > > > > > > > > > From: "Linda Murray" <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> > > > > > Date: 2005/06/23 Thu AM 09:36:39 CDT > > > > > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census > > > > > > > > > > Doc, > > > > > I don't find any Pat, Patrick, or P. Robinson/Roberson, etc indexed > > > anywhere in 1850 Alabama. > > > > > > > > > > Other than the fact that he married in Mobile County, what else do > you > > > know? Most helpful would be the place of birth for both Patrick and > that of > > > his parents (if he lived to the 1880 census enumeration, which is the > first > > > to pose that question). > > > > > > > > > > Sorry not to be able to help, > > > > > Linda in Georgia > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Docjones35 > > > > > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:26 PM > > > > > Subject: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking for the parents of Patrick Robinson, who in 1850 should > have > > > been about 18 years of age. Believed to have been living in or near > Mobile > > > Al during that period.....He married Margaret Byrne in Oct 1852 in > > > Mobile...any help greatly appreciated...docjones, Melbourne FL > > > cjones5@cfl.rr.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > > > > > To Unsub from regular mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to > > > > > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace > it > > > with your state abbreviation ) > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in > the > > > > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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Doc, I don't see what you are looking at in 1880. Are you positive that you are not looking at Montgomery Co in 1880? That sure sounds like the Patrick that I see there. Docjones35 wrote: > Thanks for the update..I am checking to see, but I am sure this is the > right one....Patrick and Margaret married abt 1852 in Mobile and in the > 1880 census they had a house full of kids...and in looking at the 1880 > listing I see that both of them and their parents as well were born in > Ireland.....He may well have come to this country with someone other than > his mother and father and that is something I will have to look > at.....thanks again for your information...docjones > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <wmcconne@bellsouth.net> > To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 3:00 PM > Subject: Re: Re: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census > > > Doc, > > > > I don't see your guy in Mobile county. But in 1860 through at least 1900 > there is a Patrick Robinson married to a Margaret and right age for your > Robert living in Montgomery county. This Patrick and Margaret were married > about 1850. They had about 9 children. Patrick is a grocer/merchant. One > of his sons became a lawyer and one a dentist. Anything sound familar? > > > > > > From: "Linda Murray" <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> > > > Date: 2005/06/23 Thu AM 09:36:39 CDT > > > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census > > > > > > Doc, > > > I don't find any Pat, Patrick, or P. Robinson/Roberson, etc indexed > anywhere in 1850 Alabama. > > > > > > Other than the fact that he married in Mobile County, what else do you > know? Most helpful would be the place of birth for both Patrick and that of > his parents (if he lived to the 1880 census enumeration, which is the first > to pose that question). > > > > > > Sorry not to be able to help, > > > Linda in Georgia > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Docjones35 > > > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:26 PM > > > Subject: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census > > > > > > > > > Looking for the parents of Patrick Robinson, who in 1850 should have > been about 18 years of age. Believed to have been living in or near Mobile > Al during that period.....He married Margaret Byrne in Oct 1852 in > Mobile...any help greatly appreciated...docjones, Melbourne FL > cjones5@cfl.rr.com > > > > > > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > > > To Unsub from regular mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to > > > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it > with your state abbreviation ) > > > > > > ============================== > > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > > > To view completed census transcriptions online > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html > > > > > > ============================== > > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > > To transcribe a census please volunteer at > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/map.htm Or contact Earnie > Breeding at firefighter635@adelphia.net for the state census transcriptions > for AL & TX > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > Free Soundex code converter > http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/soundexconverter > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Thanks for the update..I am checking to see, but I am sure this is the right one....Patrick and Margaret married abt 1852 in Mobile and in the 1880 census they had a house full of kids...and in looking at the 1880 listing I see that both of them and their parents as well were born in Ireland.....He may well have come to this country with someone other than his mother and father and that is something I will have to look at.....thanks again for your information...docjones ----- Original Message ----- From: <wmcconne@bellsouth.net> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census > Doc, > > I don't see your guy in Mobile county. But in 1860 through at least 1900 there is a Patrick Robinson married to a Margaret and right age for your Robert living in Montgomery county. This Patrick and Margaret were married about 1850. They had about 9 children. Patrick is a grocer/merchant. One of his sons became a lawyer and one a dentist. Anything sound familar? > > > > From: "Linda Murray" <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> > > Date: 2005/06/23 Thu AM 09:36:39 CDT > > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census > > > > Doc, > > I don't find any Pat, Patrick, or P. Robinson/Roberson, etc indexed anywhere in 1850 Alabama. > > > > Other than the fact that he married in Mobile County, what else do you know? Most helpful would be the place of birth for both Patrick and that of his parents (if he lived to the 1880 census enumeration, which is the first to pose that question). > > > > Sorry not to be able to help, > > Linda in Georgia > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Docjones35 > > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:26 PM > > Subject: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census > > > > > > Looking for the parents of Patrick Robinson, who in 1850 should have been about 18 years of age. Believed to have been living in or near Mobile Al during that period.....He married Margaret Byrne in Oct 1852 in Mobile...any help greatly appreciated...docjones, Melbourne FL cjones5@cfl.rr.com > > > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > > To Unsub from regular mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to > > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it with your state abbreviation ) > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > > To view completed census transcriptions online > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To transcribe a census please volunteer at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/map.htm Or contact Earnie Breeding at firefighter635@adelphia.net for the state census transcriptions for AL & TX > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Doc, I don't see your guy in Mobile county. But in 1860 through at least 1900 there is a Patrick Robinson married to a Margaret and right age for your Robert living in Montgomery county. This Patrick and Margaret were married about 1850. They had about 9 children. Patrick is a grocer/merchant. One of his sons became a lawyer and one a dentist. Anything sound familar? > > From: "Linda Murray" <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> > Date: 2005/06/23 Thu AM 09:36:39 CDT > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census > > Doc, > I don't find any Pat, Patrick, or P. Robinson/Roberson, etc indexed anywhere in 1850 Alabama. > > Other than the fact that he married in Mobile County, what else do you know? Most helpful would be the place of birth for both Patrick and that of his parents (if he lived to the 1880 census enumeration, which is the first to pose that question). > > Sorry not to be able to help, > Linda in Georgia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Docjones35 > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:26 PM > Subject: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census > > > Looking for the parents of Patrick Robinson, who in 1850 should have been about 18 years of age. Believed to have been living in or near Mobile Al during that period.....He married Margaret Byrne in Oct 1852 in Mobile...any help greatly appreciated...docjones, Melbourne FL cjones5@cfl.rr.com > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To Unsub from regular mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it with your state abbreviation ) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To view completed census transcriptions online > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Sorry. I forgot to correct the subject line in my reply. ----- Original Message ----- From: Docjones35 To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:26 PM Subject: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census Looking for the parents of Patrick Robinson, who in 1850 should have been about 18 years of age. Believed to have been living in or near Mobile Al during that period.....He married Margaret Byrne in Oct 1852 in Mobile...any help greatly appreciated...docjones, Melbourne FL cjones5@cfl.rr.com ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== To Unsub from regular mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it with your state abbreviation ) ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Doc, I don't find any Pat, Patrick, or P. Robinson/Roberson, etc indexed anywhere in 1850 Alabama. Other than the fact that he married in Mobile County, what else do you know? Most helpful would be the place of birth for both Patrick and that of his parents (if he lived to the 1880 census enumeration, which is the first to pose that question). Sorry not to be able to help, Linda in Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: Docjones35 To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:26 PM Subject: [AL-CEN] 1850 Mobile Census Looking for the parents of Patrick Robinson, who in 1850 should have been about 18 years of age. Believed to have been living in or near Mobile Al during that period.....He married Margaret Byrne in Oct 1852 in Mobile...any help greatly appreciated...docjones, Melbourne FL cjones5@cfl.rr.com ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== To Unsub from regular mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it with your state abbreviation ) ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Looking for the parents of Patrick Robinson, who in 1850 should have been about 18 years of age. Believed to have been living in or near Mobile Al during that period.....He married Margaret Byrne in Oct 1852 in Mobile...any help greatly appreciated...docjones, Melbourne FL cjones5@cfl.rr.com

Melissa There is a death certificate for the following: Mary F. Bird died 8-30-1914 MOntgomery Co.,AL Vol. 29, Certificate #190 Quoting Melissa Parker <lissapark@knology.net>: > No, I'm not certain she's still alive in 1910 - that was one thing I wanted > to figure out. She was born about 1845, so she may not be. She is living > in 1900 because she's in the household with her daughter, Julia Jones, and > grandchildren, Geneva, Cecil, Maud, Leo. The other thing I was trying to > determine is her maiden name - if it is Huggins or Bird, I'm thinking it's > Huggins...and who she was married to. Maybe I need to try an earlier > census...but I couldn't find her in 1880 on LDS. > > Thanks for all of your help. > > Melissa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <wmcconne@bellsouth.net> > To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:07 AM > Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1910/Montgomery/Mary Ellen Bird > > > > Are you certain that Mary is still alive in 1910? According to the 1880 > > census, she would be 70 in 1910. Do you know who her children are besides > > Julia? > > > > Melissa Parker wrote: > > > >> She's either listed as Mary Huggins or Mary Ellen Bird, black, would be > >> about 65 in 1910. Thank you. > >> > >> ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > >> To transcribe a census please volunteer at > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/map.htm Or contact Earnie > >> Breeding at firefighter635@adelphia.net for the state census > >> transcriptions for AL & TX > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > > To view completed census transcriptions online > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To view completed census transcriptions online > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

I did see that in 1880 as a possibility, but parents' birth places are listed as GA and that is incorrect, but then it could have been added incorrectly in that census. I suppose if Mary was a widow in 1880, then Huggins is another married name. Thanks again for all of your efforts - Melissa ----- Original Message ----- From: <wmcconne@bellsouth.net> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1910/Montgomery/Mary Ellen Bird > 1880 Montgomery Co, AL, 3rd wd Montgomery, page 129C > J. T. Hotziclan 46 white GA GA GA sawyer > Mary B (wife) 45 white GA GA GA > Cary W. (dau) 21 white AL GA GA > Jas T. (son) 6 white AL GA GA > Mary Huggins (other) 40 black AL GA GA widow, cook > Julia Huggins (other) 18 black AL GA GA > Laura Huggins (other) 11 black AL GA GA > Siloma Williams (other) 25 black AL AL AL house servant > Henry Boyd (other) 12 black AL AL AL house waiter > > I see a "possibility" for Mary & Julia in 1870 but there are some things > on > that record that don't quite jive with the 1880 and 1900 records. > 1870 Bullock Co, AL, Greenwood > (all shown as black) > Allen Hawking 32 SC (surname is hard to read, the index says Hawking, I > dunno..) > Mary 30 AL > Henrietta 6 AL > Julia 4 AL > Mahala 2 AL > > Melissa Parker wrote: > >> No, I'm not certain she's still alive in 1910 - that was one thing I >> wanted >> to figure out. She was born about 1845, so she may not be. She is >> living >> in 1900 because she's in the household with her daughter, Julia Jones, >> and >> grandchildren, Geneva, Cecil, Maud, Leo. The other thing I was trying to >> determine is her maiden name - if it is Huggins or Bird, I'm thinking >> it's >> Huggins...and who she was married to. Maybe I need to try an earlier >> census...but I couldn't find her in 1880 on LDS. >> >> Thanks for all of your help. >> >> Melissa >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <wmcconne@bellsouth.net> >> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:07 AM >> Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1910/Montgomery/Mary Ellen Bird >> >> > Are you certain that Mary is still alive in 1910? According to the 1880 >> > census, she would be 70 in 1910. Do you know who her children are >> > besides >> > Julia? >> > >> > Melissa Parker wrote: >> > >> >> She's either listed as Mary Huggins or Mary Ellen Bird, black, would >> >> be >> >> about 65 in 1910. Thank you. >> >> >> >> ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== >> >> To transcribe a census please volunteer at >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/map.htm Or contact Earnie >> >> Breeding at firefighter635@adelphia.net for the state census >> >> transcriptions for AL & TX >> >> >> >> ============================== >> >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and >> >> the >> >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== >> > To view completed census transcriptions online >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html >> > >> > ============================== >> > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> > >> >> ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== >> To view completed census transcriptions online >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To transcribe a census please volunteer at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/map.htm Or contact Earnie > Breeding at firefighter635@adelphia.net for the state census > transcriptions for AL & TX > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

1880 Montgomery Co, AL, 3rd wd Montgomery, page 129C J. T. Hotziclan 46 white GA GA GA sawyer Mary B (wife) 45 white GA GA GA Cary W. (dau) 21 white AL GA GA Jas T. (son) 6 white AL GA GA Mary Huggins (other) 40 black AL GA GA widow, cook Julia Huggins (other) 18 black AL GA GA Laura Huggins (other) 11 black AL GA GA Siloma Williams (other) 25 black AL AL AL house servant Henry Boyd (other) 12 black AL AL AL house waiter I see a "possibility" for Mary & Julia in 1870 but there are some things on that record that don't quite jive with the 1880 and 1900 records. 1870 Bullock Co, AL, Greenwood (all shown as black) Allen Hawking 32 SC (surname is hard to read, the index says Hawking, I dunno..) Mary 30 AL Henrietta 6 AL Julia 4 AL Mahala 2 AL Melissa Parker wrote: > No, I'm not certain she's still alive in 1910 - that was one thing I wanted > to figure out. She was born about 1845, so she may not be. She is living > in 1900 because she's in the household with her daughter, Julia Jones, and > grandchildren, Geneva, Cecil, Maud, Leo. The other thing I was trying to > determine is her maiden name - if it is Huggins or Bird, I'm thinking it's > Huggins...and who she was married to. Maybe I need to try an earlier > census...but I couldn't find her in 1880 on LDS. > > Thanks for all of your help. > > Melissa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <wmcconne@bellsouth.net> > To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:07 AM > Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1910/Montgomery/Mary Ellen Bird > > > Are you certain that Mary is still alive in 1910? According to the 1880 > > census, she would be 70 in 1910. Do you know who her children are besides > > Julia? > > > > Melissa Parker wrote: > > > >> She's either listed as Mary Huggins or Mary Ellen Bird, black, would be > >> about 65 in 1910. Thank you. > >> > >> ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > >> To transcribe a census please volunteer at > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/map.htm Or contact Earnie > >> Breeding at firefighter635@adelphia.net for the state census > >> transcriptions for AL & TX > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > > To view completed census transcriptions online > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To view completed census transcriptions online > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Thank you for trying to find her - she may be in the household with her husband (I'm thinking it's someone named Bird, and Huggins is her maiden name or 1st mrriage) in 1910 or she may be deceased. She's in the household in 1900, at age 55, with her daughter, Julia Jones, and grandchildren, Geneva, Maud, Cecil, and Leo. I couldn't find her at all in 1880 on the LDS site. Thanks again for trying, Linda. Melissa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Murray" <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1910/Montgomery/BIRD > Melissa, > 1910 is indexed by head of household, and I don't find your Mary > Higgins/Mary Bird indexed. Perhaps she is living in the household of > someone else? > > There are no black Mary Higgins indexed in 1910 Montgomery County at all. > There is one black Mary Byrd indexed in 1910 Montgomery County - born ca > 1880, and two Mary Birds indexed in the state - one in Baldwin County, > born ca 1859 and one in Bullock County, born ca 1840. > > In the state there are two black Mary Higgins indexed - one in Hale > County, born ca 1854, one in Perry County, born ca 1908. > > Sorry I wasn't able to help. Hopefully someone else on the list will have > better luck. > Linda in Georgia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Melissa Parker > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:49 PM > Subject: [AL-CEN] 1910/Montgomery/Mary Ellen Bird > > > She's either listed as Mary Huggins or Mary Ellen Bird, black, would be > about 65 in 1910. Thank you. > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To transcribe a census please volunteer at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/map.htm Or contact Earnie > Breeding at firefighter635@adelphia.net for the state census > transcriptions for AL & TX > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To view completed census transcriptions online > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

No, I'm not certain she's still alive in 1910 - that was one thing I wanted to figure out. She was born about 1845, so she may not be. She is living in 1900 because she's in the household with her daughter, Julia Jones, and grandchildren, Geneva, Cecil, Maud, Leo. The other thing I was trying to determine is her maiden name - if it is Huggins or Bird, I'm thinking it's Huggins...and who she was married to. Maybe I need to try an earlier census...but I couldn't find her in 1880 on LDS. Thanks for all of your help. Melissa ----- Original Message ----- From: <wmcconne@bellsouth.net> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] 1910/Montgomery/Mary Ellen Bird > Are you certain that Mary is still alive in 1910? According to the 1880 > census, she would be 70 in 1910. Do you know who her children are besides > Julia? > > Melissa Parker wrote: > >> She's either listed as Mary Huggins or Mary Ellen Bird, black, would be >> about 65 in 1910. Thank you. >> >> ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== >> To transcribe a census please volunteer at >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/map.htm Or contact Earnie >> Breeding at firefighter635@adelphia.net for the state census >> transcriptions for AL & TX >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To view completed census transcriptions online > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > >

Melissa, 1910 is indexed by head of household, and I don't find your Mary Higgins/Mary Bird indexed. Perhaps she is living in the household of someone else? There are no black Mary Higgins indexed in 1910 Montgomery County at all. There is one black Mary Byrd indexed in 1910 Montgomery County - born ca 1880, and two Mary Birds indexed in the state - one in Baldwin County, born ca 1859 and one in Bullock County, born ca 1840. In the state there are two black Mary Higgins indexed - one in Hale County, born ca 1854, one in Perry County, born ca 1908. Sorry I wasn't able to help. Hopefully someone else on the list will have better luck. Linda in Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: Melissa Parker To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:49 PM Subject: [AL-CEN] 1910/Montgomery/Mary Ellen Bird She's either listed as Mary Huggins or Mary Ellen Bird, black, would be about 65 in 1910. Thank you. ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== To transcribe a census please volunteer at http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/map.htm Or contact Earnie Breeding at firefighter635@adelphia.net for the state census transcriptions for AL & TX ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Are you certain that Mary is still alive in 1910? According to the 1880 census, she would be 70 in 1910. Do you know who her children are besides Julia? Melissa Parker wrote: > She's either listed as Mary Huggins or Mary Ellen Bird, black, would be about 65 in 1910. Thank you. > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To transcribe a census please volunteer at > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/map.htm Or contact Earnie Breeding at firefighter635@adelphia.net for the state census transcriptions for AL & TX > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

She's either listed as Mary Huggins or Mary Ellen Bird, black, would be about 65 in 1910. Thank you.

Mary, 1830 is the earliest currently-surviving federal census for Alabama. Indexed in 1830 are William in Madison County, and Dixon and Joseph in Mobile. 1830 Madison County, Alabama - Range 1 & 2 - Roll 4/page 87 William Wainwright - 2300001 - 001001 (2 free white males aged under 5, 3 aged 5-10, 1 aged 40-50 - 1 free white female aged 10-15, 1 aged 30-40) The only listings shown for a Sam or Samuel Wainwright in earlier census years is one indexed in 1800 New Haven, CT, and in 1810 and 1820 in Vermont. I suspect that your Samuel Wainwright was living during those years in one of the states for which the census enumeration was lost or destroyed. Sorry not to be able to help, Linda in Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Stuart To: Linda Murray Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] Unknown County/1850 census/Wainwright Thank you Linda, I sure do appreciate you looking for me. Can you tell me if there is an 1800 census for Washington Co.? I'm desperately trying to find Samuel Wainwright, born in VA., year of birth unknown (just know he was born bef. 1770). He is there in 1810 ( haven't been able to find out who/ age groups and gender, he has with him on that 1810 census), but need to locate him on the 1800 census. Thank you, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Murray" <lhmurray@bellsouth.net> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] Unknown County/1850 census/Wainwright > Mary, > I don't find any Nancy, William or W-initialed Wainwright indexed anywhere > in 1850 Alabama. There's one William Wainwright indexed in 1850 who was > born in Virginia, but that one was enumerated in Virginia in 1850 and born > ca 1845. > > Sorry I wasn't able to help, > Linda in Georgia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary Stuart > To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:34 PM > Subject: [AL-CEN] Unknown County/1850 census/Wainwright > > > Would someone please look on the 1850 census for William Wainwright. My > Wm. was born abt 1785 in VA. His wife's name was Nancy. > Thank you, > Mary > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To Unsub from regular mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it > with your state abbreviation ) > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Mary, I don't find any Nancy, William or W-initialed Wainwright indexed anywhere in 1850 Alabama. There's one William Wainwright indexed in 1850 who was born in Virginia, but that one was enumerated in Virginia in 1850 and born ca 1845. Sorry I wasn't able to help, Linda in Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Stuart To: AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:34 PM Subject: [AL-CEN] Unknown County/1850 census/Wainwright Would someone please look on the 1850 census for William Wainwright. My Wm. was born abt 1785 in VA. His wife's name was Nancy. Thank you, Mary ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== To Unsub from regular mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it with your state abbreviation ) ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

1920 Jefferson Co, AL, precinct 9, page 71 (all birthplaces Alabama) Willard Bearden 32 carpenter-house Adle (wife) 24 1930 Jefferson Co, AL, precinct 9, ED 133, sht 18A (all birthplaces Alabama) Willard Bearden 41 ,married at age 24, carpenter-foreman-chemical co Adell (wife) 34 married at age 17 Raymond (son) 7 Jack & Iryna wrote: > Requesting a lookup from the 1920 Federal Census, Birmingham, Jefferson Co, > AL. for the household of Willard BEARDEN. His wife's madien name was Adel > Briton (sic?). In particular, looking for their son, Raymond Willard > BEARDEN, b. Sept. 01, 1922 as well as the rest of their household. Don't > have an index to give you the pg. # for Willard's household. Thank you in > advance for your help with this lookup request! > > Jack > (in TX.) > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To Unsub from regular mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it with your state abbreviation ) > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Thank you very much for all of your help. Melissa ----- Original Message ----- From: <wmcconne@bellsouth.net> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] Julia Jones/Alabama/Montgomery/1910 > In the following census all are listed as black. I can't really decipher > Julia's occupation. I thought it was > "laundry" followed by another word but the word "laundress" appears twice > on that page and it doesn't look > much like the first word in Julia's occupation. The children are all shown > "at school" and Julia is shown as > owning her home. > > 1900 Montgomery Co, AL, 4th ward, page 176 > Julia Jones 37 TN TN LA widow, 6 kids, 5 living > Genieva (dau) 17 AL AL TN > Cecil (son) 13 AL AL TN > Maud (dau) 12 AL AL TN > Leo (son) 10 AL AL TN > Lenard (son) 7 AL AL TN > Martin Brown (nephew) 13 AL AL TN > Mary Huggins (mother) 55 AL LA VA widow, 2 kids, 1 living > > > > > > Melissa Parker wrote: > >> That's her, thank you so much for your help. If you get a chance, could >> you >> check the 1900? I'd really appreciate it. >> >> Melissa >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <wmcconne@bellsouth.net> >> To: <AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 6:11 PM >> Subject: Re: [AL-CEN] Julia Jones/Alabama/Montgomery/1910 >> >> > 1910 Montgomery Co, AL, 4th ward, page 42 >> > Julia Jones 46 TN TN TN mulatto, widow, keeper-boarding house >> > Leonard Jones (son) 17 AL AL TN mulatto,single >> > Geneva Terry (dau) 24 AL AL TN mulatto, married 8 yrs, 1 kid, 1 living >> > Charles Terry (grandson) 1 yr & ? mos AL GA AL mulatto >> > >> > >> > >> > Melissa Parker wrote: >> > >> >> Julia Jones, mulatto, would be about 45 in 1910. She wasn't married >> >> as >> >> far as I know and would probably be listed as "head," believe to have >> >> been born in TN. Thanks for your help. >> >> >> >> Melissa >> >> >> >> ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== >> >> To view completed census transcriptions online >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/inv/index.html >> >> >> >> ============================== >> >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== >> > To Unsub from regular mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to >> > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it >> > with >> > your state abbreviation ) >> > >> > ============================== >> > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> > >> >> ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== >> To Unsub from regular mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to >> XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it >> with your state abbreviation ) >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ==== AL-CENSUS-LOOKUP Mailing List ==== > To Unsub from regular mail mode, send the command "unsubscribe" to > XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com (Remove the XX and replace it with > your state abbreviation ) > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > >