DO NOT use this as proof, but as a helpful hint as to what may have been. I made this list in the 1970's & I do not remember my sources tho, at the time, I considered them adequate. I have nothing more & cannot answer questions except on my direct line which is in the Estill Co. group. Donna GROUP III: Madison, Estill, Owsley, Lee, Rockcastle, Clark, & Montgomery Counties. Joseph (may be the Joseph who m. Nancy Dudgeon 7 July 1784 Campbell Co., VA.) 1810 Madison 22101-10110. (Note: the following Henry, William, & John were from a family of 12 boys and 2 girls, according to family tradition. I believe there is a connection between them and Smith Akers of Daviess Co. as both Henry & William named sons "Smith". Could they descend from Thomas & Mary (Smith) of Fayette, Shelby & Jessemine?) There is also a connection with Peter Akers of Rockcastle Co. who signed William's marriage bond in Clay County, KY. Henry, (1801-1868), m. Delilah Miller 13 Aug 1821 Estill Co. Their ch.: Malvina, John Smith, Harvey A., Anderson B., Lucinda, Sarepta, Sarah, Mary Jane, William Alburtus, Margy Ann, Henry Francis, & Elizabeth. m. bond by John Akers of Estill. 1820 Estill, 1821-29 Estill Co. Tax Assessor Records, 1836 Washington Co., Ark. taxes, 1850 Williamson Co., TX William, b. 1800 KY or TN, m. in Clay Co., KY to Perdelia "Delia" Pitman. Their ch.: Clifton P. b. 1826, Ann b. 1827-8, William Jr. b. 1829, John J.(Jefferson) b. 1830, Martha Ann b. 20 Feb 1833, Katherine b. 1835, Milton M. b. 1834, Smith b. 1836, Thomas S. b. 1840, Stephen D. b. 1843, & Nancy b. 1849. 1820, 1830, 1840 Estill, 1821-40 Estill Co. Tax Assessor Records 1845-67 Owsley Co. Tax Assessor Records (on Hell Cr., Walker's Cr., Ky River & N. Fk. Ky River). 1850 Owsley. m. bond by Peter Akers of Rockcastle. John, b. 1794-1800, d. 3 Sep 1840 Estill Co., m. Martha "Patsey" McGuire, d/o James, 15 Aug 1816 Estill Co. She d. after 1878. Their ch.: William b. 1817 KY; A. Hardin b. 12 Dec 1820 Estill; Eliza Ann b. after 26 Jul 1820 Middlefork, Miller's Creek, Owsley Co.; (female) b. 1825; John b. 26 Jun 1829 Estill; Patsey J. b. 1832; James M. b. 1834; Henderson b. 1837; & Eveline b. 1840. 1820, 1830, 1840 Estill, 1815-40 Estill Tax Assessor Records (Martha or Patsy: 1845-67 Owsley Co. Tax Assesor Records (on Ky River, N. Fk Ky River, & Contrary Creek) 1850 Owsley, 1858 in Owsley, 1872 & 1878 in Beattyville, Lee Co., KY. Widow received War of 1812 pension. Sarah Ermine Eveline m. George Samuel Williams 14 Jul 1848 in area that later became Lee (Estill or Owsley?). Burgess 1840 Madison Jacob 1850 Estill Thomas Marion, s/o Peter Jr.of Group V, b. 1790 Pendleton Dist., SC,m. 1816 Rockcastle Co. to -----Braxton, d. Barren Co., Their ch.: Larkin Braxton b. 1817. Larkin Braxton, s/o Thomas Marion, b. 12 Apr 1817 Rockcastle, d. 1894 San Bernardino Co. CA., m. 1842 Marion Co., Ala. to Catherine Holaday. 1850 Marion Co., Ala.p.168. Meredith, 1814-25 Rockcastle Co. Tax Assessor Records, 1820 Rock- castle Co, 1850 Marion Co., Ala p.114. Son of Claibourne Akers & Elizabeth Thompson of Montgomery Co., VA Peter, 1810 Rockcastle, 1811-16 Rockcastle Co. Tax Assessor Records, (See Peter Akers Jr. in Group V.--Is he the one who signed m. bond for Wm. & Perdelia (Pitman)?) Frederick 1810 Rockcastle, 1811-24 Rockcastle Co. Tax Assessor Records, 1820 Rockcastle, 1840 Jefferson Malvina E., d/o Henry & Delilah, b. 2 Sep 1822 Rockcastle, d. 22 Jan 1901 Fresno Co., CA, m(1) ca. 1835 -----Evans, m(2)"Doc"James H. Lewis in TX. John Smith, s/o Henry & Delilah, b. 22 May 1825 Rockcastle, d. 24 May 1888 FresnoCo., CA, m. Mary Ann Graham 1 Jan 1860 Burnet Co., TX. Harvey A., s/o Henry & Delilah, b. 29 Nov 1826 either Rockcastle or Estill, d. 17 Jun 1911 Fresno Co., CA, m. Martha Jane McHaley 10 Apr 1861 Burnet Co., TX. Anderson B., s/o Henry & Delilah, b. 15 Apr 1828 Estill, d. 28 Oct 1911 Fresno Co., CA, m. Amanda Harlow 1 Dec 1858 Fresno Co., CA., d/o John R. Harlow & Elsie Miller (sis. of Delilah). Lucretia, d/o Henry & Delilah, b. 8 Dec 1829 KY, d. ca. 1835 Washing- ton Co., Ark. Sarepta, d/o Henry & Delilah,b. 1 May 1832(Fulton Co.?) IL, d. 19 Oct 1870 Fresno Co., CA, m. Albert Henry Statham 24 May 1855 Fresno Co., CA. Sarah "Sally", d/o Henry & Delilah, b. 14 Oct 1834 (Washington Co.?) Ark.,d. 2 Sep 1923 King City, CA, m. Henry S. Chambers Jr. 17 Feb 1852 Williamson Co., TX, s/o James Chambers & Elsie Miller (sis. of Delilah.) Elizabeth, d/o Henry & Delilah, b. 18 Apr 1836 Washington Co., Ark., d. 26 Jun 1854 Fresno Co., CA., m. Hobart Eastbrook Howard 3 Aug 1853 Mariposa Co., CA. Henry Francis, s/o Henry & Delilah, b. 13 Aug 1838 Ft. Smith, Sebastian Co., Ark., d. 13 Oct 1937 Fresno Co., CA, m. Martha Ann Vaughn 3 Jun 1862 Fresno Co., CA. Mary Jane, d/o Henry & Delilah, b. 22 Jan 1840 Rep. of TX, d. 25 Aug 1910 Fresno Co., CA.,m. William M. "Yank" Hazelton 6 Sep 1857 Fresno Co., CA. Margy Ann, d/o Henry & Delilah, b. 17 Jul 1842 TX, d. 5 Dec 1860 Fresno Co., CA., m. David Huckaby 24 May 1857 Fresno Co., CA. William Alburtus, s/o Henry & Delilah, b. 2 Jun 1844 Hopkins Co., TX, d. 22 Jul 1931 Fresno Co., CA., m(1) Sarah Rogers 22 Feb 1866 Fresno Co., CA., divorced, m(2) Katherine "Kate" Findley 12 Sep 1874 Fresno Co., CA. Clifton P., s/o William & Perdelia, b.1826, m. Elizabeth A. Ashcraft. 1848-66 Owsley Co. Tax Records (on Ky River & Hell Cr.) 1867 Owsley Co.Records indicate on Rockcastle River, Rockcastle Co. John J.(Jefferson?), s/o William & Perdelia, b. 1830, m(1) Amanda See, b. 1836, on 19 Oct 1853 Miller's Creek, Owsley Co., m(2) Nancy Ashcraft. 1853-58 Owsley Co. Tax Assessor Records. Martha Ann, d/o William & Perdelia, b. 20 Feb 1833, d. 1 Nov 1915, m(1) John Miles Kincaid on 20 Feb 1856 OwsleyCo., m(2) Absolom R. Mainous. Katherine, d/o William & Perdelia, b. 1835, m. 14 Jun 1856 Warwick McGuire. Milton M., s/o William & Perdelia, b. 1834, d. soon after 1861,m. Nov 1861 Margaret Helton. 1858-62 Owsley Co. Tax Assessor Records. Wife moved to Rockcastle. Thomas, s/o William & Perdelia, b. 1840 Estill Co., d. 9 Sep 1859 Owsley Co., single. Stephen D., s/o William & Perdelia, b. 1843. 1863-67 Owsley Tax Rec. William Jr., s/o William & Perdelia, b. 1829, 1851-57 OwsleyTax Rec. A. Hardin, s/o John & Patsey, b. 12 Dec 1820 Estill Co., d. 3 Jul 1858 Owsley Co. (consumption). Single. Worked in tannery. 1845-59 and estate in 1860-61 Owsley Co. Tax Assessor Records. Eveline, d/o John & Patsey, b. 1840, in 1859 Owsley Tax Records. Eliza Ann, d/o John & Patsey, b. after 26 Jul 1820 Middlefork, Miller's Creek, Estill Co., m. William See 26 Jul 1853. He was b. 1829 Montgomery Co., KY, and was residing in Miller's Creek. James M., s/o John & Patsey, b. 1834, 1856-58 Owsley Co.Tax Records (on Contrary Creek) Henderson, s/o John & Patsey, b. 1837, 1858-64 Owsley Co.Tax Rec. John S., s/o John & Patsey, b. 26 Jun 1829, d. 11 Jul 1858 Owsley Co. (consumption), obituary says single, but records indicate he m. Armirva Gray, b. Estill, on 13 Dec 1855 Owsley Co. Residence Owsley Co. Occupation: tanner. Patsey J., d/o John & Patsey, b. 1832 on KY River, Estill Co., m. Milton D. Boone, b. 1825 Fayette Co., KY, on 9 Feb 1853 Owsley Co. Their ch.: John C. b. 1 Nov 1854, Ela E. b. 11 Dec 1858 Estill. John S., poss. s/o Clifton P. & Elizabeth, 1866-67 Owsley Tax Rec. Also could be the John S. who m.Armirva Gray in 1855?? Hiram, 1855 Owsley Tax Assessor Records A. B. (or Burt A.), lived near Patsy, but census records do not verify him being son of John & Patsy, b. before 1824. 1845-67 Owsley Tax Assessor Records (Ky River, N. Fk. Ky River & Contrary Cr.). This is possibly another brother of Henry, John and William. His given name could have been Alburtus from which Henry named his son??) -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm Ancestrally Challenged!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~