Enough is enough. We have all learned a great deal from the Aills group. I have not contributed as much as some of you have but I have contributed to the KY Aills. If there has not been a general rule of thumb, let's start one. If you are not certain of the info you are stating, just add "Speculation, no hard copy proof, as yet". I just could not stand by any longer and say nothing. Roberta