Rhonda, I went back & checked to make sure the census information I gave was correct, the only mistake I see that I made, was the spelling of Francis/Fannie or as I spelled it Frannie. CENSUS: 1880 Upshur Co,Tx Ancestry.com pg 23 ED 112 Jones 1910 Upshur Co,Tx Ancestry.com pg 28 ED 97 Ailes 1920 Upshur Co,Tx Ancestry.com pg 7 ED 111 1930 Upshur Co,Tx Ancestry.com pg 15 DT 10 prec 3 No, I did not take your information from the group, I got it as I said from the census report's information available to anyone willing to do the work. I do not appreciate your comments, not that I don't understand & sympathize, there is a lot of bull out there about my family too, However I do not rake someone over the coals, for a mistake. When I research a family & go into depth, I put every similar name I find of that family in my records, to see if they fit, latter I go back & cull those out that let no where. This has helped countless people. I believe that information is to be shared, so that it can help others & lead you into other places, you never thought to look. You do not, I get that. You can rest assured that all your family information, I researched will be deleted. Do note it takes 24 hrs for it to be removed. I hope this puts & end to this subject Pam Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: cte01383<about:blank> To: [email protected]<about:blank> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 1:03 AM Subject: [AILLS] Re: Elias Alanzo AILES ( Incorrect Spelling) Pam, What you posted on Rootsweb came from information I collected and shared with the Aills family research group. You have added to it a bunch of fabricated junk. If you can't tell from my wording, I am mad as heck about this mess you have posted for other people to see and believe as the truth. I am glad people don't think I was the one who posted made up tales for some to build their family history on. You couldn't have found some of this in the census records because it isn't there. My great grandmother's name was NOT Frannie. Neither was she called FRANNIE. This is hogwash. It is all hogwash. Everything you put on the internet is bull. I wrote you several emails a few months ago and asked you where you got this information you were posting and you told me you deleted it. You would not reveal your sources. The census information is posted on the Aills Archives in MY emails because I found it, not you. I went to Gilmer last June to a family reunion and visited the court house there to get some of the information. I walked cemeteries all over Upshur Co. The rest I found in the genealogy library in Shreveport. It took a lot of time and effort on my part to learn some of this stuff and I refuse to sit idly by and have some one do this to me. It is unforgivable. No, I will not give you the correct information. You took credit for doing the work so now you can do just that. Look it up. I would NEVER take some one else's hard work, use it as my own and take the credit from them. Some of the information you posted as your own work was family information that my grandmother told me herself. You would have had to know the family to have learned that. I, like all the others in the Aills family research group have worked very hard to learn what we know about our ancestors. We have shared EVERYTHING we have learned with ALL the other members in the hopes of filling in the blanks on our family tree. NO ONE ELSE HAS HAD THE AUDACITY TO DO THIS TO ANOTHER MEMBER OF THIS GROUP. I refuse to give you anything else. I apologize to anyone whose feelings I have hurt with this email, but at least I am being honest and open about something I feel very strongly about. I appreciate the family information that you have all shared with me. It had been a tremendous help in my own research work. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I have not been able to contribute as much as I would like because I have so many family responsibilities. I take care of my father, who is 83 and has failing health (two strokes). I try to help my daughter with her four children while she works 12 and 16 hour shifts at the hospital while she if going through a divorce. It is made more difficult because she lives an hour away from me. But I can't let them down. Things have to be done and I am the only one to do them. So you see, what work I have done and have been able to contribute WILL NOT be taken away OR misrepresented by you or anyone else. I will be watching to see if you have righted your wrong as far as misinforming other researchers. You can not change my opinion of what you have done. It is despicable. Rhonda Hatfield ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam Miller To: [email protected]<about:blank> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:04 PM Subject: Elias Alanzo AILES Rhonda I appreciate your comments, but please enlighten me on my mistake, all the census work I did myself so I know that is accurate. I will be happy to fix the mistake. Pam