I forgot to write that I took the list off moderation. I just had someone ask if it's still on moderation. Sorry, Sandra

I know the connection with the Hawthorne's and the Harris's in East Texas. Carrie Harris married a Hawthorne. They ran the Moody House in Galveston too, for years and years. It was just within the past few years that Carrie Hawthorne's daughter or daughter-in-law passed away. Email me back for more specific questions and I will try to answer them....I need to pull out my papers on the Hawthorne's. Also, very important it is the Hawthorne's spelled with an e on the end. Kim Harris Baker ----- Original Message ----- From: "KAREN D SMITH" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [AILLS] William and Thomas > No Liz, I do not know the Hawthorne connection...Christopher's to be wife > was living with Henry McCorkle in 1850...I do not know her parents names > or > siblings. > Karen > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Liz Hoopes" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 8:45 AM > Subject: Re: [AILLS] William and Thomas > > >> Good Morning, >> >> I don't know what part of Texas you live in. I hope you are out of harms >> way. My thoughts and prayers are with the people in Rita's line of fire. >> I >> am so worried about the folks stranded on the highways there. I lived in > the >> Houston area for many years. I-45- Gulf freeway was a nightmare just > during >> daily rush hour. >> >> I am still looking for the info on George. It was posted a while back. >> It >> seems like it said that he had married an Elizabeth prior to 1850. I >> took >> another look at the 1850 census and there was an Elizabeth age 55. I > suppose >> that she was his nephews Washington's mother. Maybe this is where that >> information came from many moons ago. I have been so busy looking for the >> southern people that I cannot remember everything I should about the KY. >> Ailes. >> Do you have any record of George marrying? >> >> Karen, do you happen to know what connection there was between the > Hawthorne >> folks living with George in 1860 and Christopher C's wife???? >> Thank you, >> Liz >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "KAREN D SMITH" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 4:05 AM >> Subject: Re: [AILLS] William and Thomas >> >> >> > George went back to KY. He later married there. >> > >> > What is the marriage date for George and bride's name please. >> > Thank you. >> > Karen >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Liz Hoopes" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:43 PM >> > Subject: Re: [AILLS] William and Thomas >> > >> > >> >> Thomas was not included in the info that the gentleman in Johnson Co. >> >> sent >> >> you. I never knew there was a Thomas until you shared a list of > Walker's >> > and >> >> William's siblings with us.... I will go back through the archives > and >> >> find that posting. I was hoping you had additional information on > Thomas >> > and >> >> George. Thomas was also not named on the Shackleford lawsuit with the >> >> others. But with the naming pattern that doesn't mean much. >> >> >> >> George went back to KY. He later married there. You posted that > info..... >> >> Remember he also made provisions for a Mary Miller... We have brought > her >> > up >> >> on a few occasions. I believe Roberta or Karen may have posted Georges >> > will >> >> to the list. I will also look that up. I am trying to figure out who >> >> fathered these children born in Ark. during that time period. I >> >> guess > I >> >> will just keep digging..... >> >> Thanks any way. >> >> Liz >> >> >> >> >> >> Original Message ----- >> >> From: <[email protected]> >> >> To: <[email protected]> >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:13 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [AILLS] William and Thomas >> >> >> >> >> >> > In a message dated 9/22/2005 7:47:10 PM Central Standard Time, >> >> > [email protected] writes: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Sandra, do you have any additional info on George Whitefield ? I > know >> >> >> nothing about Thomas, William, George and Walker's brother. Do you >> >> >> have >> >> >> any >> >> >> info on him? Was he in AR as well???? >> >> >> >> >> > Liz, I'm not exactly who you're asking for when you say 'info on > him.' >> >> > Other >> >> > than what was sent to me that you mentioned from the man who did the >> >> > lookup on >> >> > Johnson Co. the only other information I have is from census >> > information. >> >> > George Whitfield was in Arkansas. Like you said, George didn't say > very >> >> > long in >> >> > Arkansas. Do you know for sure that George W went back to Kentucky > and >> >> > married? >> >> > sandra >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ============================== >> >> > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the >> >> > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> >> > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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Hello members, This list is now on moderation. First, I do apologize to you for the continuing turmoil on list the past few days. I have every reason to believe that the names of my daughters were placed on Ancestry.com intentionally and maliciously to "mess with Sandra". If I find out it was not one of those who have enjoyed "messing with Sandra" I will be the first to apologize. Second, I went to the MyFamily site and discovered that I had been removed as administrator and Liz was administrator. The action of having me removed and her placed as administrator to my own list was of course a mistake made by someone who did not have the authority to make that change at the MyFamily office. It has been corrected and Liz and one more person have been totally removed from the MyFamily site. Because of that removal from MyFamily I am fully expecting a barrage of mail to be posted to this Rootsweb list and I've used the option to place it on moderation. Your name is one that can continue to post without restriction to this list. The mail of several others will come to me and I will forward the mail to the list if it's not a continuation of the recent events. I hate that I feel it's necessary to take these steps, but I don't see another way for this to end. I did not place an additional member as guest on MyFamily. I would have absolutely no reason to want to keep her files nor restrict her from removing them. I have attempted to resolve these issues off list only to find that my private offlist email was posted to the list. I intend to remove the moderated status in a few days. I hope the moderation is not an inconvenience for you. I hope we can get back to looking for Aills in the spirit of cooperation and in aiding each other as this list and MyFamily was designed. Thanks for your consideration, Sandra

I just want everyone to know that I, too, have deleted all my postings on the MyFamily site. Last night Sandra placed Liz on "guest" status, and Liz could not post anything new or even edit or delete what she had posted in the past. She did the same thing to Pam. Liz and Pam are the owners of their postings and it is not right that they no longer had any control over them. Sandra had no justifiable reason or right to take control of what Liz, Pam or anyone else owns. I deleted my postings before Sandra took control of what I own by placing me, too, on "guest" status or disallowing me access to the site at all........she probably has that control, too. Tarney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Miller" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:20 AM Subject: [AILLS] MyFamily site. > Sandra, > > You owe all of us an apology, but just as before that will not come. > > I have dealt with Ancestry.com for years, they have cleared up little glitch's here & there for me, > (nothing like you has ever came up) so I do know how the people hand out advice, that and the fact that I live in Utah I know the people here (Ancestry.com's base is in Utah) & no one would ever have given you the advice to accuse the people on the site, rather, I'm sure they suggested that you, ASK if anyone put your information on the net, & then to ask them to remove it. > > I'm stunned with your reprehensible behavior, a woman your age should know better. > You & your kind have become a cancer to the list & the MyFamily site, I tried to ignore you, > I tried to forgive you, (not forget mind you, I'm not stupid) I'm a Christian & I strongly believe in forgiveness, but Lord you do make it a challenge. > > I have removed or I should say I tried to remove all the postings I made to the MyFamily site, but much to my surprise, I found that I could not remove my personal family tree Mary Jane Ailes & that I have been listed as a GUEST to my tree, it still shows that I'm the owner but that I'm a guest, since you or Liz are the only two that could change that status & I know Liz did not change it, that leaves me ASK > why you changed it & when will you be changing it back? > > As it has been stated you have been asked to leave sites before, after all of the Bull that has been going > on since this site started I can totally understand, There should be warning bells attached to your name. > > I hate that you have made it a necessary for me to write this letter, but I cannot sit idly by & watch you attack everyone around for no reason, this is the last straw. > > Anyone of us that would have put your information on the net would have been woman enough to put her name on it, we don't hide, & we won't lie down & take this. > > I did check out the My World Tree site & saw your information you spoke of, (speaking only for myself) this was the first time I had ever seen that you had 3 daughters or their names, I remember when you had your stroke you said something about staying with your daughter while you recovered, no name given that I can remember, or if there was one, I don't remember because she is living & not important to me. > I work with the dead, that is what genealogy is about, dead ancestors. > > Most of the time I do not have time to read all the postings, so don't bother giving me dates about this posting or that posting showing that you talked about this or that, because chances are high that I did not read it. > > I can tolerate a lot, but you have used up your allotment for my toleration. > > Good luck on getting your daughters names removed, that is just wrong, perhaps you should look closer to home, somebody knows a lot more about you than the people on this site ever would know, should know, or care to know. > > Pam Miller > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Sandra, You owe all of us an apology, but just as before that will not come. I have dealt with Ancestry.com for years, they have cleared up little glitch's here & there for me, (nothing like you has ever came up) so I do know how the people hand out advice, that and the fact that I live in Utah I know the people here (Ancestry.com's base is in Utah) & no one would ever have given you the advice to accuse the people on the site, rather, I'm sure they suggested that you, ASK if anyone put your information on the net, & then to ask them to remove it. I'm stunned with your reprehensible behavior, a woman your age should know better. You & your kind have become a cancer to the list & the MyFamily site, I tried to ignore you, I tried to forgive you, (not forget mind you, I'm not stupid) I'm a Christian & I strongly believe in forgiveness, but Lord you do make it a challenge. I have removed or I should say I tried to remove all the postings I made to the MyFamily site, but much to my surprise, I found that I could not remove my personal family tree Mary Jane Ailes & that I have been listed as a GUEST to my tree, it still shows that I'm the owner but that I'm a guest, since you or Liz are the only two that could change that status & I know Liz did not change it, that leaves me ASK why you changed it & when will you be changing it back? As it has been stated you have been asked to leave sites before, after all of the Bull that has been going on since this site started I can totally understand, There should be warning bells attached to your name. I hate that you have made it a necessary for me to write this letter, but I cannot sit idly by & watch you attack everyone around for no reason, this is the last straw. Anyone of us that would have put your information on the net would have been woman enough to put her name on it, we don't hide, & we won't lie down & take this. I did check out the My World Tree site & saw your information you spoke of, (speaking only for myself) this was the first time I had ever seen that you had 3 daughters or their names, I remember when you had your stroke you said something about staying with your daughter while you recovered, no name given that I can remember, or if there was one, I don't remember because she is living & not important to me. I work with the dead, that is what genealogy is about, dead ancestors. Most of the time I do not have time to read all the postings, so don't bother giving me dates about this posting or that posting showing that you talked about this or that, because chances are high that I did not read it. I can tolerate a lot, but you have used up your allotment for my toleration. Good luck on getting your daughters names removed, that is just wrong, perhaps you should look closer to home, somebody knows a lot more about you than the people on this site ever would know, should know, or care to know. Pam Miller

Dear Karen, I am petty sure I have her info. I will look and get back to you. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "KAREN D SMITH" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [AILLS] AILLS MARRIAGE > Hey, > Can someone please tell me which family this Jane Aills belonged to > Married, Lewis County, KY Jan 8, 1839, Peter Scott. > > I know nothing more. > Thanks so much. > Karen > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

In a message dated 9/27/2005 11:18:37 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I see you have moderated my last post to the list Liz, it seems mighty strange to me that your emails are being posted to the list. How on earth would I possibly know to moderate just one? sandra

Sandra, Maybe you should look into the King family closet.... Not to members of MYFAMILY.. Liz I did not grow up using the name Sandra Jo King so only someone on MyFamily or the King family knows that I ever existed by that name

I don't really know but the posting was not complete..... You tell me. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [AILLS] Fw: one administrator to another > In a message dated 9/27/2005 11:18:37 PM Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > >> I see you have moderated my last post to the list > > Liz, it seems mighty strange to me that your emails are being posted to > the > list. > How on earth would I possibly know to moderate just one? > > sandra > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

----- Original Message ----- To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:04 PM Subject: Re: one administrator to another In a message dated 9/27/2005 8:29:53 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: What list did you post Thomas Ezekiel King Jr., Allen, Batterton, or Longino??? I don't recall these names on the Aills list. Maybe this will help you remember the post dated Sept 20: Hate to bring up this nagging subject of source, but please advise about> your "family history" source that says James Wesley Aills left Kentucky> before 1820.> > Your help will be greatly appreciated.> > The very first information I had on Aills was sent to me from a cousin Judy Honea, who sent me her GED on our King, Allen, Aills, Longino and Batterton family. She is the person who started me searching for Aills and provided me with the name Eugenia Melissa Aills shortly after I got my first computer in 1999. Her information on Aills has NOT been published on the Web. Her information and ultimately my information from her was the only place I had seen Eugenia Melissa Aills or her father, Thomas Paine or her grandfather, James Wesley Aills until this list was started.sandra Judy Honea DID NOT post my personal information with my daughters names on Ancestry.com. She has never posted what was on the FTM disc to Ancestry.com Since you threatened me by posting this on list: " I meant what I said about not not ruining the site..... That certainly includes you." I have used the option I have as creator of the MyFamily to change your status from administrator with me to guest so you will be able to visit the site but will not be able to change anything. At the time you paid for the site I had just come from the hospital with a stroke, could not talk and could not use my right hand. Paying for the site did not give you authority over the site. I too want this to be over and I hope my daughters names will be removed. sandra

I see you have moderated my last post to the list..... You are very predictable. I will forward it in a group mailing... Not a problem. You owe everyone on MYFAMILY and the list and apology..... You just don't have the character to admit that what you accused all of us of was wrong.... I suppose this will be "moderated" as well. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Hoopes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:07 PM Subject: [AILLS] Fw: one administrator to another > Sandra, > > The information posted on OWT listing your daughters is not here or on the > site. You knocked me down to guest status on a site that I paid for??? I > cannot even edit or delete any of my postings..... I think > not........Your right, I paid for it right after your stroke. I felt so > sorry for you and didn't want you to worry about anything. I cheerfully > took care of it. I never in my wildest dreams thought that you would turn > into the internet nightmare that you have become. I was reluctant to get > involved with you in the first place. I should have listened to my > instincts. > > I will find out how to lodge a complaint in the morning . I doubt Ancestry > really did tell you to brow beat site members . All calls are recorded > and I will address that as well. That is not a "threat" its a fact. > > You have totally taken something that worked and twisted it into something > toxic. > You once told me that you had been asked to leave lists before....I still > have that e-mail from you. Perhaps you need a refresher course. > > All I can say to you is that I will CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR YOU AND TO ASK > THE LORD TO NEVER ALLOW ANY ONE AS MEAN SPIRITED AS YOU INTO MY LIFE > AGAIN..... JESUS LOVES YOU. > Liz > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:04 PM > Subject: Re: one administrator to another > > > In a message dated 9/27/2005 8:29:53 PM Central Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > What list did you post Thomas Ezekiel King Jr., Allen, Batterton, or > Longino??? I don't recall these names on the Aills list. > > > Maybe this will help you remember the post dated Sept 20: > Hate to bring up this nagging subject of source, but please advise about> > your "family history" source that says James Wesley Aills left Kentucky> > before 1820.> > Your help will be greatly appreciated.> >> The very first information I had on Aills was sent to me from a cousin >> Judy Honea, who sent me her GED on our King, Allen, Aills, Longino and >> Batterton family. She is the person who started me searching for Aills >> and provided me with the name Eugenia Melissa Aills shortly after I got >> my first computer in 1999. Her information on Aills has NOT been >> published on the Web. Her information and ultimately my information from >> her was the only place I had seen Eugenia Melissa Aills or her father, >> Thomas Paine or her grandfather, James Wesley Aills until this list was >> started.sandra > > Judy Honea DID NOT post my personal information with my daughters names on > Ancestry.com. She has never posted what was on the FTM disc to > Ancestry.com > > Since you threatened me by posting this on list: > " I meant what I said about not not ruining the site..... That certainly > includes you." > I have used the option I have as creator of the MyFamily to change your > status from administrator with me to guest so you will be able to visit > the site but will not be able to change anything. > At the time you paid for the site I had just come from the hospital > with a stroke, could not talk and could not use my right hand. Paying for > the site did not give you authority over the site. > I too want this to be over and I hope my daughters names will be > removed. > sandra > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Sandra, The information posted on OWT listing your daughters is not here or on the site. You knocked me down to guest status on a site that I paid for??? I cannot even edit or delete any of my postings..... I think not........Your right, I paid for it right after your stroke. I felt so sorry for you and didn't want you to worry about anything. I cheerfully took care of it. I never in my wildest dreams thought that you would turn into the internet nightmare that you have become. I was reluctant to get involved with you in the first place. I should have listened to my instincts. I will find out how to lodge a complaint in the morning . I doubt Ancestry really did tell you to brow beat site members . All calls are recorded and I will address that as well. That is not a "threat" its a fact. You have totally taken something that worked and twisted it into something toxic. You once told me that you had been asked to leave lists before....I still have that e-mail from you. Perhaps you need a refresher course. All I can say to you is that I will CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR YOU AND TO ASK THE LORD TO NEVER ALLOW ANY ONE AS MEAN SPIRITED AS YOU INTO MY LIFE AGAIN..... JESUS LOVES YOU. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:04 PM Subject: Re: one administrator to another In a message dated 9/27/2005 8:29:53 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: What list did you post Thomas Ezekiel King Jr., Allen, Batterton, or Longino??? I don't recall these names on the Aills list. Maybe this will help you remember the post dated Sept 20: Hate to bring up this nagging subject of source, but please advise about> your "family history" source that says James Wesley Aills left Kentucky> before 1820.> > Your help will be greatly appreciated.> > The very first information I had on Aills was sent to me from a cousin Judy Honea, who sent me her GED on our King, Allen, Aills, Longino and Batterton family. She is the person who started me searching for Aills and provided me with the name Eugenia Melissa Aills shortly after I got my first computer in 1999. Her information on Aills has NOT been published on the Web. Her information and ultimately my information from her was the only place I had seen Eugenia Melissa Aills or her father, Thomas Paine or her grandfather, James Wesley Aills until this list was started.sandra Judy Honea DID NOT post my personal information with my daughters names on Ancestry.com. She has never posted what was on the FTM disc to Ancestry.com Since you threatened me by posting this on list: " I meant what I said about not not ruining the site..... That certainly includes you." I have used the option I have as creator of the MyFamily to change your status from administrator with me to guest so you will be able to visit the site but will not be able to change anything. At the time you paid for the site I had just come from the hospital with a stroke, could not talk and could not use my right hand. Paying for the site did not give you authority over the site. I too want this to be over and I hope my daughters names will be removed. sandra

In a message dated 9/27/2005 8:44:04 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Do you have a guess as to whom this person may be. If you do, get it out in > > the open. > No, Marlene, I do not know who put the information out there. The only thing I want is for my daughters names to be removed. And I have a right to ask that that be done. If the person had added their name or their email address to the site I could privately ask them to remove the names of my daughters. I was not given that option and I'm following the suggestion that was given to me by Ancestry.com. sandra

Are you saying that Ancestry.com suggested you come on to a mailing list and make accusations that one of the subscribers to the list is guilty of (to quote your earlier message) "intentional malevolence"? Since you seem to be the one who knows all the rules for a mailing list, tell me, is there any way a subscriber to a mailing list can lodge a complaint against a List "mom" who seems intent infantcide? Also, is there anyway that the moderator can be moderated? Seems to me that the "moderator" is guilty of <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [AILLS] Three new sites. I do not know who put the information out there. The only thing > I want is for my daughters names to be removed. And I have a right to ask > that that be done. If the person had added their name or their email address to > the site I could privately ask them to remove the names of my daughters. I > was not given that option and I'm following the suggestion that was given to me > by Ancestry.com. > sandra > >

Sandra, Do you have a guess as to whom this person may be. If you do, get it out in the open. Since we have all been accused to some extent and you seem very sure that one of us posted your private information, you might as well put all your cards on the table. Marlene

Liz, I am aware that you are an administrator on the MyFamily site. At the time I created it, I asked if you would be joint administrator with me so that someone would be able to manage the site in the event something happened to me. I have not been disappointed in the way you have helped with the administration of the MyFamily site. I have always thought and intended the MyFamily site to be a safe place where everyone could share information in privacy. If I find out that the names of my daughters were posted to a public site and the owner of the site had absolutely nothing to do with the MyFamily site, then I will be the first to apologize. It seems highly coincidental that the information on my daughters just happened to be posted on the same day as the other two new sites appeared on line. The timing is uncanny. The only thing I am asking is that the names of my daughters be removed. I don't know any person who makes the names of living persons known on a public list. I called Ancestry.com to see how I could have the names removed or how I could contact the anonymous poster. Because the poster chose to not include a screen name and wished to remain unknown the information could not be given to me BUT the lady at Ancestry.com suggested that I contact the members of MyFamily and ask that the names of my daughters be removed. I have taken her advice and am asking that the names of my daughters be removed from their public anonymous site. Sandra

Sandra, Their names were not listed on the my family site..... The only people who could have known that kind of information would have to be someone that knows your personal information. You say that you created that site...... well I paid for it.... I am telling you that this is an insult to every member of the site to take this kind of crap from you. Get a grip.... The information posted to OFT was NOT taken from that site.... What is the matter with you ? I certainly hope whoever did it will fix it. So you will leave us alone. I meant what I said about not not ruining the site..... That certainly includes you. You owe us an apology...... But I will not hold my breath. Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [AILLS] Three new sites. > Liz, > I am aware that you are an administrator on the MyFamily site. At the > time I > created it, I asked if you would be joint administrator with me so that > someone would be able to manage the site in the event something happened > to me. I > have not been disappointed in the way you have helped with the > administration > of the MyFamily site. > I have always thought and intended the MyFamily site to be a safe > place where everyone could share information in privacy. > If I find out that the names of my daughters were posted to a public > site and the owner of the site had absolutely nothing to do with the > MyFamily > site, then I will be the first to apologize. It seems highly coincidental > that > the information on my daughters just happened to be posted on the same day > as > the other two new sites appeared on line. The timing is uncanny. > The only thing I am asking is that the names of my daughters be > removed. I don't know any person who makes the names of living persons > known on a > public list. > I called Ancestry.com to see how I could have the names removed or > how > I could contact the anonymous poster. Because the poster chose to not > include a screen name and wished to remain unknown the information could > not be > given to me BUT the lady at Ancestry.com suggested that I contact the > members of > MyFamily and ask that the names of my daughters be removed. > I have taken her advice and am asking that the names of my daughters > be removed from their public anonymous site. > Sandra > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Sandra, I took a look at MYFAMILY and One World Tree. I just don't see how that your daughters information could have come from there. If you look closely the last names of your posting to MF site and the last names on OWT are totally different. It lists them by their married names. It was a surprise to me that you had ever been married to anyone besides a Mr.Zenger. I had just asssumed that your daughters maiden names were also Zenger. We have never shared personal information like that. I don't know if you have shared that info with other members of the site or list....... You may want to rethink this. The MYFAMILY site means quite a bit to me. I would certainly hope that information from this site would never be used to hurt anyone. I am also an administrator. This site is to me a safe haven for us to share everything from recipes to sweet family stories. I assure you that I would moderate, muzzle or unsubscribe any one that tries to turn MF site into something as disfuntional as this list has become. This cat fight as you call it has been over for some of us for a while. I also know that some of us involved in that disagreement are not vendicive sneeks who lurk behind a veil of secrecy. That is not our style...... When we offend anyone by posting info.... We slap our names all over it !!!! Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: [AILLS] Three new sites. >I have become aware in the past two days that there are three new sites on > OneWorldTree that contain the Aills surname. Not only that, but 2 sites > have > the owner listed as "Unknown" and there is no password to contact the > poster of > the information. All three sites coincidently appeared on the same day. > One of the anonymous sites has my name, Sandra Jo King, d/o Thomas > Ezekiel King Jr., and it includes the names of my three daughters. I > consider > this to be mean spirited and vindictive and directly caused as a result of > the > recent cat fight. > My name is public information and it's really not a big deal if I am > identified as the daughter of Thomas Ezekiel King Jr and if the > information that I > descend from James Wesley Aills is posted to a public site. That > information is > only known to Aills researchers. But it is a real cheap shot to publicly > post > the names of my three daughters. The only place their names were known > was on > the MyFamily site where I placed a picture of me and them and identified > them > by name. > Whoever you are, who chooses to be Unknown and cowardly hides behind > a > blank where a screen name is usually placed, would you be big enough to > remove the names of my daughters from your information. You can leave my > name if > you feel justified and it makes you happy. > This cat fight has gone on long enough and it's becoming way too > personal. Everyone is aware that I don't appreciate private information > being > posted to a public site so posting the names of my daughters is > intentional > malevolence. > Yes, this has made me angry. Justifiably so. > Sandra > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

I have become aware in the past two days that there are three new sites on OneWorldTree that contain the Aills surname. Not only that, but 2 sites have the owner listed as "Unknown" and there is no password to contact the poster of the information. All three sites coincidently appeared on the same day. One of the anonymous sites has my name, Sandra Jo King, d/o Thomas Ezekiel King Jr., and it includes the names of my three daughters. I consider this to be mean spirited and vindictive and directly caused as a result of the recent cat fight. My name is public information and it's really not a big deal if I am identified as the daughter of Thomas Ezekiel King Jr and if the information that I descend from James Wesley Aills is posted to a public site. That information is only known to Aills researchers. But it is a real cheap shot to publicly post the names of my three daughters. The only place their names were known was on the MyFamily site where I placed a picture of me and them and identified them by name. Whoever you are, who chooses to be Unknown and cowardly hides behind a blank where a screen name is usually placed, would you be big enough to remove the names of my daughters from your information. You can leave my name if you feel justified and it makes you happy. This cat fight has gone on long enough and it's becoming way too personal. Everyone is aware that I don't appreciate private information being posted to a public site so posting the names of my daughters is intentional malevolence. Yes, this has made me angry. Justifiably so. Sandra

In a message dated 9/25/2005 2:47:02 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > There are > MANY good researchers amongst this Aills clan! > Tarney, Thank you for saying there are MANY good researchers on this list and MANY have contributed to the information here and on the MyFamily site. I wouldn't want anyone to feel like their participation or contribution in this joint effort to increase all of our knowledge is not appreciated and has not been helpful to the whole. Everyone deserves credit and thanks for their hard work in sharing information they've found in courthouses, DAR libraries, LSD libraries, cemeteries, old family Bibles, old documents, old letters, old photographs, personal phones calls, online searches and a myriad of information and for sharing them with all of us and making this a good team. No matter how seldom or how short the posts of the Aills researchers on this list and those on the MyFamily site, each contribution is appreciated and has added information we didn't have. Even though you don't have a direct line to Aills other than to James Wesley Aills' wife's sister your searches on all the Aills and your sharing the profits of those searches has been beneficial to all of us. This has been a good team with MANY members who are excellent researchers. Thanks for recognizing and acknowledging that. Sandra