Pam, Elaine and I have been searching for information on Christina Pendleton, especially who she was married to and who her husband was. I noticed that you have her husband listed as George Pendleton and you have her name as Christina Pendleton. I can't find anywhere that Christina was married to George Pendleton. Do you have information or sources on that marriage and was she a Pendleton who married a Pendleton? Also I noticed that you have Walker and William's parents as John Ail and Mary Burton. I remember when I found John Ail and Mary Burton. See my email to the list dated June 11, 2004. Did you find more information on John Ail and Mary Burton that supported my question and speculation where I wondered if they could possibly be the parents of Walker and William. Your information appears as fact. If you have something that supports them as parents would you share it? I would appreciate any help you could give me on Christina Pendleton and her marriage to George Pendleton and on John Ail and Mary Burton actuallly being the parents of Walker and William. I'd like to add this information to my data but I don't want to add speculation and guesses as fact. I hope you'll share your sources. Thanks, Sandra
In a message dated 9/11/2005 8:17:12 AM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I think you are probably right, Elizabeth would not have > been Walker's sister. The S. Carolina birth state won't work. Marlene, Do you have any information on the parents of Martha McClendon or of her siblings? She lists her birth state as S. Carolina. Mathilda Carr Aills was born in S. Carolina. I wonder if there is any sort of family connection between the Carrs and the McClendons in S. Carolina? That may be farfetched but it wouldn't surprise me the way those young Aills men in LA and MS were so connected to each other. sandra
Sandra, I did not get my information from you, there are 5 other family trees that have the same information, or close to it. My source was, Susan Gregory [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> I get to busy sometimes & forget to add in the source. The name George is just a guess, I chose it because their only son was named George. And the trend back then was to name their children after either the parents or grandparents. So take it for what is worth. A guess I have added the last statement, to George Pedleton's information Hope that answer's your question's Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 10:16 AM Subject: [AILLS] Christina Pendleton m George Pendleton...........attn Pam Pam, Elaine and I have been searching for information on Christina Pendleton, especially who she was married to and who her husband was. I noticed that you have her husband listed as George Pendleton and you have her name as Christina Pendleton. I can't find anywhere that Christina was married to George Pendleton. Do you have information or sources on that marriage and was she a Pendleton who married a Pendleton? Also I noticed that you have Walker and William's parents as John Ail and Mary Burton. I remember when I found John Ail and Mary Burton. See my email to the list dated June 11, 2004. Did you find more information on John Ail and Mary Burton that supported my question and speculation where I wondered if they could possibly be the parents of Walker and William. Your information appears as fact. If you have something that supports them as parents would you share it? I would appreciate any help you could give me on Christina Pendleton and her marriage to George Pendleton and on John Ail and Mary Burton actuallly being the parents of Walker and William. I'd like to add this information to my data but I don't want to add speculation and guesses as fact. I hope you'll share your sources. Thanks, Sandra ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx>
Thanks. I'm leaving in a few minutes for church. I'll check later and see if anyone has that information. Marlene
Thanks, Karen. I think you are probably right, Elizabeth would not have been Walker's sister. The S. Carolina birth state won't work. I can't imagine an Aills being born in S. Carolina. Perhaps she is from N. Arkansas where the two Aills brothers lived, but still, the birth state doesn't work for our Aills. But, just the fact that Ackland was living with her leads me to believe that there was a family connection. Thanks again for the census. Marlene
Rhonda, I went back & checked to make sure the census information I gave was correct, the only mistake I see that I made, was the spelling of Francis/Fannie or as I spelled it Frannie. CENSUS: 1880 Upshur Co,Tx Ancestry.com pg 23 ED 112 Jones 1910 Upshur Co,Tx Ancestry.com pg 28 ED 97 Ailes 1920 Upshur Co,Tx Ancestry.com pg 7 ED 111 1930 Upshur Co,Tx Ancestry.com pg 15 DT 10 prec 3 No, I did not take your information from the group, I got it as I said from the census report's information available to anyone willing to do the work. I do not appreciate your comments, not that I don't understand & sympathize, there is a lot of bull out there about my family too, However I do not rake someone over the coals, for a mistake. When I research a family & go into depth, I put every similar name I find of that family in my records, to see if they fit, latter I go back & cull those out that let no where. This has helped countless people. I believe that information is to be shared, so that it can help others & lead you into other places, you never thought to look. You do not, I get that. You can rest assured that all your family information, I researched will be deleted. Do note it takes 24 hrs for it to be removed. I hope this puts & end to this subject Pam Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: cte01383<about:blank> To: [email protected]<about:blank> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 1:03 AM Subject: [AILLS] Re: Elias Alanzo AILES ( Incorrect Spelling) Pam, What you posted on Rootsweb came from information I collected and shared with the Aills family research group. You have added to it a bunch of fabricated junk. If you can't tell from my wording, I am mad as heck about this mess you have posted for other people to see and believe as the truth. I am glad people don't think I was the one who posted made up tales for some to build their family history on. You couldn't have found some of this in the census records because it isn't there. My great grandmother's name was NOT Frannie. Neither was she called FRANNIE. This is hogwash. It is all hogwash. Everything you put on the internet is bull. I wrote you several emails a few months ago and asked you where you got this information you were posting and you told me you deleted it. You would not reveal your sources. The census information is posted on the Aills Archives in MY emails because I found it, not you. I went to Gilmer last June to a family reunion and visited the court house there to get some of the information. I walked cemeteries all over Upshur Co. The rest I found in the genealogy library in Shreveport. It took a lot of time and effort on my part to learn some of this stuff and I refuse to sit idly by and have some one do this to me. It is unforgivable. No, I will not give you the correct information. You took credit for doing the work so now you can do just that. Look it up. I would NEVER take some one else's hard work, use it as my own and take the credit from them. Some of the information you posted as your own work was family information that my grandmother told me herself. You would have had to know the family to have learned that. I, like all the others in the Aills family research group have worked very hard to learn what we know about our ancestors. We have shared EVERYTHING we have learned with ALL the other members in the hopes of filling in the blanks on our family tree. NO ONE ELSE HAS HAD THE AUDACITY TO DO THIS TO ANOTHER MEMBER OF THIS GROUP. I refuse to give you anything else. I apologize to anyone whose feelings I have hurt with this email, but at least I am being honest and open about something I feel very strongly about. I appreciate the family information that you have all shared with me. It had been a tremendous help in my own research work. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I have not been able to contribute as much as I would like because I have so many family responsibilities. I take care of my father, who is 83 and has failing health (two strokes). I try to help my daughter with her four children while she works 12 and 16 hour shifts at the hospital while she if going through a divorce. It is made more difficult because she lives an hour away from me. But I can't let them down. Things have to be done and I am the only one to do them. So you see, what work I have done and have been able to contribute WILL NOT be taken away OR misrepresented by you or anyone else. I will be watching to see if you have righted your wrong as far as misinforming other researchers. You can not change my opinion of what you have done. It is despicable. Rhonda Hatfield ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam Miller To: [email protected]<about:blank> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:04 PM Subject: Elias Alanzo AILES Rhonda I appreciate your comments, but please enlighten me on my mistake, all the census work I did myself so I know that is accurate. I will be happy to fix the mistake. Pam
Yes, they sure did. From what I have heard, they owned a lot of land in the North AR. area. This may be the lead we need. Thanks, Sandra
You are welcome.... I do not have time right now to check for AILLS families in this part of AK for those years.....Maybe someone else has already checked? If not maybe I can later today. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <AILLS[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [AILLS] James Carroll........ > Thanks, Karen. I think you are probably right, Elizabeth would not have > been Walker's sister. The S. Carolina birth state won't work. I can't imagine an > Aills being born in S. Carolina. Perhaps she is from N. Arkansas where the > two Aills brothers lived, but still, the birth state doesn't work for our > Aills. But, just the fact that Ackland was living with her leads me to believe > that there was a family connection. > > Thanks again for the census. > > Marlene > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >
Here are census records from Union County, AK 1840-1860 Elizabeth is consistant with SC as birth state.........So may not be the Carroll family looking for? Must have only had three children? That lived to adult? 1840 Federal Census, Union County, AK Jackson Township Carrol, James H One male 30/40 (30 yrs?) Two female under 5 One female 20/30 (29yrs?) 1850 October 14, Federal Census, Union County, AK ElDorado Township Page 235 HH 153 Family 153 383 383 Line 26 Carroll, James 40 M, Planter $2200 NC Elizabeth 40 F, K House SC Sarah L 13 F, School MS Polly A 12 F, School LA J no 10M, School AK 1860 September 30 Federal Census, Union County, AK ElDorado Township, Post Office, ElDorado Page 117 (327) HH 774 Family 721 Line 37 Carroll, James 52 wm Farmer $25, 000/$39000 NC E 52 wf SC Mary 16 wf LA J C 21 wm AK 1870 July 13 Federal Census, Union County, AK Post Office El Dorado, El Dorado Township Page 43 (308) HH 320 Family 320 Line 35 Carroll, Elizabeth 55 wf $3000/$600 No occup K-House SC Ailes, Ackland 40 wf MS I didn't find Elizabeth Carroll anywhere in the U S for 1880, or Ackland Ailes, of any spelling
Pam, What you posted on Rootsweb came from information I collected and shared with the Aills family research group. You have added to it a bunch of fabricated junk. If you can't tell from my wording, I am mad as heck about this mess you have posted for other people to see and believe as the truth. I am glad people don't think I was the one who posted made up tales for some to build their family history on. You couldn't have found some of this in the census records because it isn't there. My great grandmother's name was NOT Frannie. Neither was she called FRANNIE. This is hogwash. It is all hogwash. Everything you put on the internet is bull. I wrote you several emails a few months ago and asked you where you got this information you were posting and you told me you deleted it. You would not reveal your sources. The census information is posted on the Aills Archives in MY emails because I found it, not you. I went to Gilmer last June to a family reunion and visited the court house there to get some of the information. I walked cemeteries all over Upshur Co. The rest I found in the genealogy library in Shreveport. It took a lot of time and effort on my part to learn some of this stuff and I refuse to sit idly by and have some one do this to me. It is unforgivable. No, I will not give you the correct information. You took credit for doing the work so now you can do just that. Look it up. I would NEVER take some one else's hard work, use it as my own and take the credit from them. Some of the information you posted as your own work was family information that my grandmother told me herself. You would have had to know the family to have learned that. I, like all the others in the Aills family research group have worked very hard to learn what we know about our ancestors. We have shared EVERYTHING we have learned with ALL the other members in the hopes of filling in the blanks on our family tree. NO ONE ELSE HAS HAD THE AUDACITY TO DO THIS TO ANOTHER MEMBER OF THIS GROUP. I refuse to give you anything else. I apologize to anyone whose feelings I have hurt with this email, but at least I am being honest and open about something I feel very strongly about. I appreciate the family information that you have all shared with me. It had been a tremendous help in my own research work. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I have not been able to contribute as much as I would like because I have so many family responsibilities. I take care of my father, who is 83 and has failing health (two strokes). I try to help my daughter with her four children while she works 12 and 16 hour shifts at the hospital while she if going through a divorce. It is made more difficult because she lives an hour away from me. But I can't let them down. Things have to be done and I am the only one to do them. So you see, what work I have done and have been able to contribute WILL NOT be taken away OR misrepresented by you or anyone else. I will be watching to see if you have righted your wrong as far as misinforming other researchers. You can not change my opinion of what you have done. It is despicable. Rhonda Hatfield ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam Miller To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:04 PM Subject: Elias Alanzo AILES Rhonda I appreciate your comments, but please enlighten me on my mistake, all the census work I did myself so I know that is accurate. I will be happy to fix the mistake. Pam [email protected]
Does anyone have the date of death for Christina Pendleton and does anyone know if her children inherited John Aills' property. Who was the Charles Pendleton living on John Aills property when John wrote his Will? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Sandra
Marlene, I've been looking for the records of James Carroll. There's a bunch of land records in Fayetteville AR. Didn't William and George W. have land records in Fayetteville AR? sandra
I don't have any information on the Carroll family. I got my information from Liz. I remember her saying that according to the information she has that James and Elizabeth Carroll were very well off. They owned a lot of land and a lot of slaves. James had died leaving everything to Elizabeth. The 1870 census is the last we see of Ackland Aills. By 1870 Ackland's sister, Martha, was dead, her brother, Martin, was dead, and her parents were dead. Her brother, George, was living in Shreveport, LA and her sister, Mary Jane, was married and living in TX. Ackland was the only member of the Aills family left in the El Dorado area. I think Elizabeth and James Carroll were married some place other than Union County. I haven't found them in my Union County Marriage books. I just called Liz to be sure I am giving you the correct information, and I am. She thinks this Elizabeth that married James Carroll was Walker's sister. Liz even has the location of James Carroll's grave. Ackland may be buried there also, but I doubt that we will ever know that for sure. I'm sure there isn't a headstone. The burial place was likely on their property and the grave(s) are now lost. If anyone has access to census records you might check on James Carroll and see if any of the names look familiar. The only hole in this is, if I remember correctly, Elizabeth named her birth state as S. Carolina. Liz also mentioned that there were three other Elizabeth Aills in the MS area. I think I copied those marriage dates from books while I was there. One of those Elizabeth Aills in MS may be Walker's sister. However, the fact that Ackland Aills was living with Elizabeth Aills Carroll in 1870 is too strong for me to ignore. Marlene
In a message dated 9/10/2005 8:52:23 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Her maiden name was Aills and Ackland Aills was living > with her. > > That's a real possibility, Marlene. I haven't been able to find anything at all on that Elizabeth Aills. That would be Walker's sister? Do you have anything else on her? Do you think she was in LA or MS at the same time Walker was? I still get this 'feeling' that William, the husband of Molly moved to LA with all those kids. sandra
No, I don't need more information. Thank you, this what I need. If Zaccheus and Nancy were indeed brother and sister, they had to be twins if the birth dates are correct. On the 1870 Union County, AR census, Ackland Aills, Walker's daughter, was living with Elizabeth Carroll. Her maiden name, I believe, was Aills. Could this Elizabeth Aills Carroll be the Elizabeth you have listed as being born in 1795? I feel certain that Elizabeth must have been related to the Walker Aills family in some way. Her maiden name was Aills and Ackland Aills was living with her. Marlene
In a message dated 9/10/2005 8:16:40 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > I would > really like to have a copy if possible. > > Here's the list of children I have for William and Molly: Benjamin b 1789 Richard b 1790 Elizabeth b 1795 William b 1796 Walker b 1798 Nancy b 1800 Zaccheus b 1800 (were nancy and Zaccheus twins? She named a son Zaccheus Heath.) George Whitefield/Whitfield b 1805 Mary 'Molly" b before 1807 Thomas b 1807 James Wesley b 1808 I added Zaccheus and James Wesley after the documents were found in LA and MS. Do you need more information? sandra
Thanks. At least that is cleared up. Do you have a list of William and Molly's children? I know that family has been posted to the list, but I can't find the information anywhere. I would really like to have a copy if possible. Thanks, Marlene
In a message dated 9/10/2005 8:06:19 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Sandra, > > Is this William the son of William and Molly? > > Marlene > No, I have Thomas Aills is one of the sons of William and Molly. He was born in 1807. I had him married to L Ann Dyal b March 13, 1811 in Mason Co., KY. sabdra
I think Liz can answer these questions. I spoke with her earlier this week and her computer is undergoing some updates. Hopefully she will be back with us soon. Marlene
Sandra, Is this William the son of William and Molly? Marlene