duane Randall - if you know where your grandparents are buried, try vital records to get a death certificate for them - usually at the county where they died. That will list their parents names and their state where they were born - also you might try for a birth certificate maybe a delayed one - that would also give you some good info. And if you can get your hands on their social security numbers, you can find out lost of info that way by writing for a copy of the application - hope that helps