I would suggest you look at Thorndale and Dollarhide map entitled Map Guide to the U. S. Federal Censuses 1790 - 1920. Is it perhaps the easiest to locate and obtain. It will show you all of the county boundary changes for Arkansas during this time period. Russell P. Baker, CA Arkansas History Commission and State Archives One Capitol Mall Little Rock, AR 72201 501-682-6900 www.ark-ives.com [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AGS] Arkansas State and County Maps - 1840 - Present Can anyone help in finding a website(s) or book(s) which will contain Arkansas State & County Maps between 1840 to present. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Bennie L. Phifer III Cincinnati, Ohio ==== AGS Mailing List ==== Please do not forward or cross post messages to this list or from this list without the permission of the original author.

Try the published index to the Arkansas Gazette newspaper during this year. You can see a copy at the Arkansas History Commission and State Archives in Little Rock. Russell P. Baker, CA Arkansas History Commission and State Archives One Capitol Mall Little Rock, AR 72201 501-682-6900 www.ark-ives.com [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> -----Original Message----- From: Budd Rice [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 6:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AGS] Arkansas Flood My great grandfather, David Rice, and his brother, Charles Henry Rice reportedly were cotton farming near Little Rock in the 1870s. David Rice's obit states that a levee broke around 1878 flooding his farm and ruining a years crop of cotton worth about $25,000. I have not been able to find any information regarding such a flood. Does anyone have any information regarding the flood? Budd Rice Seattle, WA [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ==== AGS Mailing List ==== ARKANSAS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY 2002 FALL SEMINAR and BOOK FAIR Friday, October 11, and Saturday, October 12, 2002 Holiday Inn Airport-East, Little Rock, Arkansas I-440, Exit 3 (Airport Exit) For details see: http://www.rootsweb.com/~args/

You can see there records here at the Arkansas History Commission and State Archives. You can also get them on interlibrary loan through your local Mormon Family History Library. Russell P. Baker, CA Arkansas History Commission and State Archives One Capitol Mall Little Rock, AR 72201 501-682-6900 www.ark-ives.com [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 7:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AGS] Re: AGS-D Digest V02 #134 I'm looking for WWI Draft Records for St. Francis and Cross, Counties Arkansas African-American Jones and George & Samuel House. ==== AGS Mailing List ==== ARKANSAS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY 2002 FALL SEMINAR and BOOK FAIR Friday, October 11, and Saturday, October 12, 2002 Holiday Inn Airport-East, Little Rock, Arkansas I-440, Exit 3 (Airport Exit) For details see: http://www.rootsweb.com/~args/

Hi, I am looking for any information on my great grandfather, Guy Luther Russell, who owned the Russell Hotel in Fort Smith. I've heard that the hotel burned in the early 1900's, killing his second wife (name unknown). I have a photograph of the hotel. Does anyone know of any newspaper archives from that era. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, J. E. Patterson

My great grandfather, David Rice, and his brother, Charles Henry Rice reportedly were cotton farming near Little Rock in the 1870s. David Rice's obit states that a levee broke around 1878 flooding his farm and ruining a years crop of cotton worth about $25,000. I have not been able to find any information regarding such a flood. Does anyone have any information regarding the flood? Budd Rice Seattle, WA [email protected] ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Bennie wrote: >Can someone provide me with the rootsweb.com maillist address for Clark County, Arkansas.< Bennie: I am replying on the list in case there are others that don't know how to find mail lists. The address for finding the index to all the mail lists at rootsweb.com is: http://lists.rootsweb.com The list of mail lists is amazing. I clicked on the Misc. list index out of curiosity - am pasting the results below. Note the AR-FREEDMEN which may be useful to some on this AGS-L list. Also note the OZARK-MEMORIES list. At the very bottom I pasted the AR lists. Regards, Nan [email protected] ======================================== 19TH-CENTURY | ABOUT-WORDS | AHTA | ALIAS-AKA | APPALACHIAN-LIFE | AR-FREEDMEN | AUS-QLD-WESTERN | BACKTOTHEPAST | BALTIC-NOBILITY | BARTLES | BELGIAN-AMERICAN | BENDINGER | BIBLE-RECORDS | BIGAMY | BRITISHHOMECHILDREN | BTRVETC | BYEGONE-TOWNS | CA-SHOSHONI-TRAIL | CANADIAN-TRAIN-DISASTERS | CAPECE | CATCHPOLE-UK | CFS-IRC | CHANCELLOR | COPYRIGHT | COUSINS-MAYBE | CyndisList | DE-FREEDMEN | DEARMYRTLE | DISABLED-GENIES | DRT | DisasterRelay | ENG-SOM-KILMERSDON | ETHICS-IN-GENEALOGY | FAMILY-HISTORY-MONTH | FAMILY-NEWSLETTERS | FAMILY-REUNIONS | FAMILY-TREASURES | FAMILYSEARCH | FL-FREEDMEN | FOLKLORE | Family_Bibles | GA-FREEDMEN | GEN-BOOKS | GEN-EDITOR | GEN-EVENTS | GEN-FRATERNAL | GEN-FRIENDS | GEN-MAT | GEN-MAT-15 | GEN-MAT-HX | GEN-NEWBIE | GEN-PITFALLS | GEN-ROYAL | GEN-SITE-SWAP | GEN-STORIES | GEN-TRAVEL-EUROPE | GEN-TRAVEL-US | GEN-TRIVIA-UNIVERSAL | GEN-UNSOLVED-MYSTERIES | GENAUTHOR | GENCLASS | GENEALOGY-CHAT-FRIEND | GENEALOGY-DNA | GENEALOGY-LOOKUP | GENEALOGY-PUBLISHING | GENEALOGY-RESEARCH-CLUB | GENEALOGY-TREASURES | GENEALOGY4DUMMIES | GENTEEN | GIBSON-MATTHEW | GOBBLE | GOLDEN-GATE | GOOD-SHEPHERD-HOMES | GRS | GenChat | GenHumor | GenSwap | GenTips | GenToday | HATEVIL | HEBDEN | HEIRLOOM | HISTORICAL-ELECTIONS | HOMESPUN | HUGUENOT-WALLOON | IGA_NET | IMMI-GRAND | Internet_Genealogy | KISSINGCOUSINS | LDS-GENEALOGY | LDS-LESSONS | LI-50S | LONDON-COMPANYS | LOOKUP | LOYALISTS | L_O_A_F | Lost_Newbies | MD-FREEDMEN | MEDICAL-GENEALOGY | MEDIEVAL-NOBILITY | MEMORY-LANE | MOMS_N_ME-ROOTS | NC-FREEDMEN | ND-OLD-NEWS | NE-OLD-NEWS | NEW-GEN-URL | NEW-GENLIST | NEWGEN | NEWSPAPER-ABSTRACTS | NH-OLD-NEWS | NICKNAMES | NJ-FREEDMEN | NM-OLD-NEWS | NOSTALGIA | NOTABLE-WOMEN-ANCESTORS | NV-OLD-NEWS | NY-CAN-NY | NY-OLD-NEWS | O-C | OK-FREEDMEN | OLD-AUSTRO-HUNGARIAN-NEWSPAPERS | OLD-ENGLISH | OLD-RUSSIAN | OLD-WORDS | ONE-PLACE-STUDY | OREGON-TRAIL | ORPHANAGES | OUTHOUSE | PA-FREEDMEN | PAINT-SHOP-PRO | PLANTAGENET-DESCENDANTS-PROJECT | PORTUGUESE-WESTINDIES | PRE-1940_ADOPTION_GENEALOGY | PSYCHIC-ROOTS | PULLINGER | Pacific_Islands | ProResearchers | QUERIES | QVDPROJECT | RAOGK | RESEARCH-HOWTO | RESEARCH-TRIP | REUNIONS | ROCKINGCHAIR-ROOTS | ROOTS | RSL-update | RVING-GENEALOGIST | RootsWeb-Review | SC-FREEDMEN | SCANDINAVIAN-NOBILITY | SCANDINAVIAN-SURNAMES | SCOT-DNA | SEIGRIST | SENIOR-NEWBIE | SG-Collector | SHARPNET | SHIPWRECK | SINCLAIR-PLACES | SINGLES | SLAVE-OWNERS | SMITHE | SPLAWN | STEPHANS | STONE-UK | STRAYS | SURNAME-ORIGINS | Southern-Trails | StateGenSites | StudyGroup | THS-56 | TN-FREEDMEN | TN-MEMORIES | TOMBSTONES | TRANSLATIONS | TRULY | Traduccion | UFO-ROOTS | VA-FREEDMEN | VINTAGE-PHOTOS | WATERPOWER | WEBPAGE-ANNOUNCE | WEST-INDIES | WGD | WITCH-HUNTING | WORD-ORIGINS | WORDS | YOUDS ========================================================== General-Interest Lists For Arkansas AFHA | AFHA-BOARD | AGS | AR-AfricaAmer | AR-CEMETERIES | AR-CEMETERIES-SUBMITTERS | AR-CEMETERY-PRESERVATION | AR-CENSUS-LOOKUP | AR-CIVIL-WAR | AR-FAMILY-GROUP-SHEETS | AR-GHOSTTOWNS | AR-OLD-NEWSPAPERS | AR-RAILROADS | AR-ROLLCALL | AR-SAWMILLS | AR-SURNAMES | AR-VETERANS | AR-VINTAGEPHOTOS | ARARCHIVES | ARKANSAS | ARKANSAS-QUERIES | ARKANSASQUERIES

I am looking for a family by the name of Stroope. I have found the Johnsons I have been looking for, we believe, connected with the Stroope family. We found Donie, Faye, and EuniceJohnson all listed on the census with J.H. and Minerva Stroope. They are also buried in the same cemetery together. I would really like to hear from anyone who has connections to this family. We believe our families are connected in some way. Thank you very much for your time. Jean Johnson

Can someone provide me with the rootsweb.com maillist address for Clark County, Arkansas. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Bennie L. Phifer III Cincinnati, Ohio

Can anyone help in finding a website(s) or book(s) which will contain Arkansas State & County Maps between 1840 to present. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Bennie L. Phifer III Cincinnati, Ohio

Dixie wrote There should have been some newspaper articles in the early 1900's on William Bud Dowd brush with the law and also a brush with the law on John Dowd. Dixie: Have you tried the NAIL search at the National Archives website? It has some AR villains on it. It is at: http://www.nara.gov/nara/nail.html Regards, Nan [email protected]

I am trying to find some pertinent information on my Grandfather William "Bud" Dowd, GGrandfather John Dowd, Grandmother Amanda Carpenter Dowd. Also, Welsey Moses Carpenter. There should have been some newspaper articles in the early 1900's on William Bud Dowd brush with the law and also a brush with the law on John Dowd. I did find some info listed in the Roots Web book section, "AR: Johnson Co: Johnson County Historical Society Journal, submitted by Anita/Wendell Powell," but it was only names and I would also like to find birthdays, etc. Any help on the above is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dixie

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My Grandmother was born in 1912 and I have what they call a Delayed Birth Certificate from the Arkansas State Board of Health--Bureau of Vital Statistics. She did not apply for this until late 1957. Yes, her name was different on it as to what we were told her name really was (not by as much as yours though) her first and middle names were reversed. So you might check later years for it too. Kay

Oh, ya'll, don't get me started on that one! I have many cousins in one family that I never knew had nicknames. One cousin, Pete, I recently found out was really Gene. I asked him about it, and he said it was no secret, just the name he'd always gone by. He said when the other kids saw him as a baby for the first time, one of his brothers said "Hey, he looks like Pete the mule!" and it stuck. Then he went on to tell me that his wife is not really Nancy (I'd known of her as that all my life), she was actually Margaret - now how to they get Nancy from Margaret? I was afraid to ask - maybe she was nick-named after one of the other farm animals! LOL! Makes genealogy difficult though! Tsana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe George" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [AGS] Children "Not Named" > Pamela, > > One thing that has driven me nuts looking for my Arkansas ancestors is the crazy > nick names. Many times people did not know what a person's real name was. For > example: Robert Henry George, Jr was Jack, Herman Oscar George was Jim, Walter > John George was Bill, Walter Hardin George was Peter, James Franklin George was > Pete, ... I could go on and on. I'm beginning to think the fathers got into the > moonshine before the kids were named and the kids resented the name they got > stuck with. > > Joe > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > Hello All: > > > > Hope the weather in your neck of the woods is more predictable than the issue > > I've run into... > > > > I have another burning question for you historians. I located my > > gr-grandmother's family in the 1900 Lonoke AR census that listed one of the > > children as "little sister." Well, she was only 6 months old, so I didn't > > think much of it. Fast forward ten years, and she is listed as "Babe" (which > > I suppose is a sort of a name). I thought this was unique to my relatives, > > but as I've been browsing through census images, I have noticed several > > instances of children listed as "Not Named" -- one little girl was 3 years > > old! > > > > Of course that made me curious about the real story behind this cold data. > > Why would it take so long to provide a child with a name? Was there a > > religious or cultural reason for this? Was the name of a child so > > insignificant in that time period that the parents felt there was no rush? > > And, in the case of the 3 year old "Not Named", would her birth certificate > > have been filled out 3 years after her actual birth? If so, would it have > > even been accurate?? > > > > Okay...I guess that was more than one question, but I was just curious if > > anyone had any ideas on this one. Forgive me if I seem a bit obsessed about > > these oddities--I'm just trying to get a real taste for the flavor of the > > times, not simply places, dates, and (sometimes) names. > > > > Thanks a bunch! > > -Pamela > > > > ==== AGS Mailing List ==== > > ARKANSAS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY > > 2002 FALL SEMINAR and BOOK FAIR > > Friday, October 11, and Saturday, October 12, 2002 > > Holiday Inn Airport-East, Little Rock, Arkansas > > I-440, Exit 3 (Airport Exit) > > For details see: http://www.rootsweb.com/~args/ > > > ==== AGS Mailing List ==== > The Arkansas History Commission has updated their website. > www.ark-ives.com >

As I understand it, Pamela, that wasn't so uncommon as you've seen on the censuses. I think it had a lot to do with children dying young, and maybe in AR and other places, there might have been some Indian influence in that they sometimes waited for a child to "earn" a name. Also, yes, the birth certificate would be filed as my grandfather's was "unknown" and then he went back after he was grown with proof of who he was and someone to sign an affidavit and had the birth certificate updated - I forget the name for it, but there is a name. And, many times before the early 1900's there was no birth certificate - lucky if there was an entry in the Family Bible. I don't know how old my grandfather was when he was named, but it is an interesting happening since we now name the child often before it is born. (Of course, we have the aid of modern technology that they didn't have also to tell us the sex of the baby). My thoughts and opinions, Tsana ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:34 AM Subject: [AGS] Children "Not Named" > Hello All: > > Hope the weather in your neck of the woods is more predictable than the issue > I've run into... > > I have another burning question for you historians. I located my > gr-grandmother's family in the 1900 Lonoke AR census that listed one of the > children as "little sister." Well, she was only 6 months old, so I didn't > think much of it. Fast forward ten years, and she is listed as "Babe" (which > I suppose is a sort of a name). I thought this was unique to my relatives, > but as I've been browsing through census images, I have noticed several > instances of children listed as "Not Named" -- one little girl was 3 years > old! > > Of course that made me curious about the real story behind this cold data. > Why would it take so long to provide a child with a name? Was there a > religious or cultural reason for this? Was the name of a child so > insignificant in that time period that the parents felt there was no rush? > And, in the case of the 3 year old "Not Named", would her birth certificate > have been filled out 3 years after her actual birth? If so, would it have > even been accurate?? > > Okay...I guess that was more than one question, but I was just curious if > anyone had any ideas on this one. Forgive me if I seem a bit obsessed about > these oddities--I'm just trying to get a real taste for the flavor of the > times, not simply places, dates, and (sometimes) names. > > Thanks a bunch! > -Pamela > > > ==== AGS Mailing List ==== > ARKANSAS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY > 2002 FALL SEMINAR and BOOK FAIR > Friday, October 11, and Saturday, October 12, 2002 > Holiday Inn Airport-East, Little Rock, Arkansas > I-440, Exit 3 (Airport Exit) > For details see: http://www.rootsweb.com/~args/ >

It is a possibility that a neighbor or grandparent gave the information on this family, if they didn't happen to be at home when censustaker came by, and he couldn't remember the smallest child's name. Wouldn't have been unusual in my husband's family for grandfather to have not known the names of his grandchildren, I don't think my father in law even knew what sex our children were, let alone their names, and no, that isn't a joke. My mother was named by a neighbor lady, who promised a dress for the baby, if they would let her name it. Must say, I liked her name better than some of her sister's names, so that might have been a good thing. Jettie Henley Parrish >

Pamela, One thing that has driven me nuts looking for my Arkansas ancestors is the crazy nick names. Many times people did not know what a person's real name was. For example: Robert Henry George, Jr was Jack, Herman Oscar George was Jim, Walter John George was Bill, Walter Hardin George was Peter, James Franklin George was Pete, ... I could go on and on. I'm beginning to think the fathers got into the moonshine before the kids were named and the kids resented the name they got stuck with. Joe [email protected] wrote: > Hello All: > > Hope the weather in your neck of the woods is more predictable than the issue > I've run into... > > I have another burning question for you historians. I located my > gr-grandmother's family in the 1900 Lonoke AR census that listed one of the > children as "little sister." Well, she was only 6 months old, so I didn't > think much of it. Fast forward ten years, and she is listed as "Babe" (which > I suppose is a sort of a name). I thought this was unique to my relatives, > but as I've been browsing through census images, I have noticed several > instances of children listed as "Not Named" -- one little girl was 3 years > old! > > Of course that made me curious about the real story behind this cold data. > Why would it take so long to provide a child with a name? Was there a > religious or cultural reason for this? Was the name of a child so > insignificant in that time period that the parents felt there was no rush? > And, in the case of the 3 year old "Not Named", would her birth certificate > have been filled out 3 years after her actual birth? If so, would it have > even been accurate?? > > Okay...I guess that was more than one question, but I was just curious if > anyone had any ideas on this one. Forgive me if I seem a bit obsessed about > these oddities--I'm just trying to get a real taste for the flavor of the > times, not simply places, dates, and (sometimes) names. > > Thanks a bunch! > -Pamela > > ==== AGS Mailing List ==== > ARKANSAS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY > 2002 FALL SEMINAR and BOOK FAIR > Friday, October 11, and Saturday, October 12, 2002 > Holiday Inn Airport-East, Little Rock, Arkansas > I-440, Exit 3 (Airport Exit) > For details see: http://www.rootsweb.com/~args/

Hello again.... Does anyone have or know where I can find a Marriage Index for Lonoke? I'm looking for a William Thomas who married an Isabella sometime between 1910 and 1920. They lived in Lonoke during that period, so I assume they married there as well. Thanks! -Pamela

Hello All: Hope the weather in your neck of the woods is more predictable than the issue I've run into... I have another burning question for you historians. I located my gr-grandmother's family in the 1900 Lonoke AR census that listed one of the children as "little sister." Well, she was only 6 months old, so I didn't think much of it. Fast forward ten years, and she is listed as "Babe" (which I suppose is a sort of a name). I thought this was unique to my relatives, but as I've been browsing through census images, I have noticed several instances of children listed as "Not Named" -- one little girl was 3 years old! Of course that made me curious about the real story behind this cold data. Why would it take so long to provide a child with a name? Was there a religious or cultural reason for this? Was the name of a child so insignificant in that time period that the parents felt there was no rush? And, in the case of the 3 year old "Not Named", would her birth certificate have been filled out 3 years after her actual birth? If so, would it have even been accurate?? Okay...I guess that was more than one question, but I was just curious if anyone had any ideas on this one. Forgive me if I seem a bit obsessed about these oddities--I'm just trying to get a real taste for the flavor of the times, not simply places, dates, and (sometimes) names. Thanks a bunch! -Pamela

Sandy: There are two (really three) books recently published on Howard Co., AR. One is Howard County Heritage published in 1988, 536 pages and two vols. entitled the Unfinished Story of North Howard County (1982 and later). Could it be one of these books? Russell P. Baker, CA Arkansas History Commission and State Archives One Capitol Mall Little Rock, AR 72201 501-682-6900 www.ark-ives.com [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> -----Original Message----- From: Sandy Scofield [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 1:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AGS] Howard County Book? I have a picture that was sent to me of Levi Alexander Miller, his wife Dicy, and some of their children. It came from a set of books about Howard County, Arkansas. The books had no title. I have been trying to locate the books, in the hope of finding more information about my family. If you have these books, would greatly appreciate hearing from you- Sandy Scofield [email protected] ==== AGS Mailing List ==== Please do not forward or cross post messages to this list or from this list without the permission of the original author.