Kathryn: you need to know when these events took place. The state of AR did not begin keeping birth records until 1914. Marriage records are kept on the county level. Have you located these families in U. S. Census records? Russell P. Baker, CA Arkansas History Commission and State Archives One Capitol Mall Little Rock, AR 72201 501-682-6900 www.ark-ives.com [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AGS] Charley Lankford Hi, We would like to have a birth certificate or a marriage license for Charley Lankford ....We know he was from the northwest part of AR but that is all...He married our grandmother, Nancy Ann Noss Warren Lankford.....she , at one time, lived in Eureka Springs, AR but we cannot find a trace of her....can you help? She was born in MO. We believe he was born in AR Thanks, Kathryn ==== AGS Mailing List ==== Please do not forward or cross post messages to this list or from this list without the permission of the original author.

Garfield is a small rural community in eastern Benton County, AR on highway 62 just east of Pea Ridge. Try to find out the date of his death and them try for an obit. from Benton County, AR newspapers. Under current AR law you can not get a death certificate for an uncle or aunt if they died after 1952. Look on the 1930 census for this family and obtain the names of wife, children, etc. Russell P. Baker, CA Arkansas History Commission and State Archives One Capitol Mall Little Rock, AR 72201 501-682-6900 www.ark-ives.com [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Twinn [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 6:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AGS] My USA geography is not so good - help please Hi Listers I would appreciate it if anyone could tell me if Garfield, Benton is in Arkansas. Also could anyone tell me the best way to try and find out anything about my uncle who died there (that is if I have got the correct guy according to the SSDI which listed him as dying in Garfield, Benton in 1967) His name was Joseph Ray born 1887. My second request, please can anyone tell me if there is a members list similar to this one to subscribe to for Las Animas/Pueblo (in Colorado I think) and also a list for Oklahoma where I might find something about my grandfather John Ray born 9 October 1889 who died in Oklahoma in 1966 (according to the SSDI). I would very much appreciate this. from [email protected] in county durham, england ==== AGS Mailing List ==== ARKANSAS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY 2002 FALL SEMINAR and BOOK FAIR Friday, October 11, and Saturday, October 12, 2002 Holiday Inn Airport-East, Little Rock, Arkansas I-440, Exit 3 (Airport Exit) For details see: http://www.rootsweb.com/~args/

Hi Listers I would appreciate it if anyone could tell me if Garfield, Benton is in Arkansas. Also could anyone tell me the best way to try and find out anything about my uncle who died there (that is if I have got the correct guy according to the SSDI which listed him as dying in Garfield, Benton in 1967) His name was Joseph Ray born 1887. My second request, please can anyone tell me if there is a members list similar to this one to subscribe to for Las Animas/Pueblo (in Colorado I think) and also a list for Oklahoma where I might find something about my grandfather John Ray born 9 October 1889 who died in Oklahoma in 1966 (according to the SSDI). I would very much appreciate this. from [email protected] in county durham, england

HI, The following is long (and complicated) but please bear with me. I'm looking for an elusive Thomas HOL(E)MAN. This particular Thomas was my great-great-grandfather. Census records tell us he was born in NC approximately 1790-1800. Before Arkansas became a state in 1836, it was Arkansas Territory. As early as 1823 there was a Thomas Holman who was a Territorial Magistrate in Arkansas. His first position was May 19, 1823 at Clarke-Warm Spring; his second term was Nov. 20, 1829, (name was spelled Holemand) at Hot Spring; and the last term was Nov. 12, 1833, also at Hot Spring. This was found in the Territorial Papers - Arkansas 1819-1825 pp. 789-874; Part Seven, "Executive Register for the Arkansas Territory," 1817-1836. It is on the internet where you can visit it at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ar/territory.htm You may find an ancestor there too! During that same time frame in Arkansas there was another Territorial Magistrate named James HOLEMAN. His terms were Nov. 20, 1829 in Sevier-Madison (Co); Nov. 5, 1831, in Sevier; and Nov. 12, 1833, also in Sevier County. . Could these two have been brothers? Were they the two sons of the Wilkes County, NC, Thomas HOLEMAN Jr. (b: 4 Feb 1756), and his second wife Elsa (?Alsia) TUGMAN? Those brothers were Thomas (b: 1796 and James (b: 1798). See: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=red_river_tx&id=I 286 Does anyone have ANY records for either of these two? For example, a burial location in North Carolina or elsewhere would eliminate them from my search. At this point, I'm trying to just eliminate the various Thomas Hol(e)man's who were from NC and born about the same time. This Arkansas Thomas seems to be the most logical, but so far there's absolutely no proof. Thomas Holman married (perhaps a second wife) a Levisa or Lousia whose maiden name may have been KNAPP. Census indicates she was born in KY, probably ca. 1800-1805. They could have been married in KY, NC, AR or anywhere in between. So far, I have found no early records about her. They had two sons, Joseph b: 1836, and yet another Thomas b: 1838. Thomas also owned land in Saline Co. AR, where the two sons were born. An older man was reported living with them (1830 census), but disappeared before the 1840 census. As stated earlier, Thomas was the child of Elsa TUGMAN (second wife) and Thomas Holeman, b: 1756). Thus that Thomas' oldest half-brother was a Joseph (son of his father and his first wife, Margaret SUTHERLAND). The Arkansas Thomas (b: ca 1790-1800) died in 1844 in Hot Spring Co. This Joseph was 17 years older than Thomas...Could he have been the older man listed on the 1830 census? That same year an Elizabeth HOLMAN married a James L. KNAPP, in Saline Co. AR. Don't know if she was related to the Arkansas Thomas or not. Could she have been a daughter from an earlier marriage, or a sister/niece/cousin? Notice that she married a man with the same last name that has been attributed as a maiden name for Levisa (Thomas' wife). However, there is a record on World Family Tree of a marriage June 16, 1823 in Clay County, KY between a Thomas Holeman (est. b. 1769-1801) and a Kezziah TUGMAN (est. b. 1777-1804). Wonder if she was related to Elsa TUGMAN? And could this also be Levisa/Lousia? After Thomas' death, Levisa KNAPP? HOLMAN married a John TRAMMELL Sr., living first in Hempstead Co., and later in Sevier Co., next door to Joseph and his wife Martha WRIGHT HOLMAN. (They were my great-grandparents). This Joseph later became a county judge in Sevier Co., as did one of his sons, my grandfather George W. Holman. Thus making it three generations of Holman judges in Arkansas. Wondering if any anyone on this list has researched either Thomas (b.1796) or James Hol(e)man (b. 1798) listed above? Did these boys die young, settle permanently in NC or elsewhere, or did they possibly go west as far as Arkansas as young men? There are also Federal Land Records for both Thomas and James Holman in Arkansas. Realize that there are more questions here than answers. Just need help in reasoning out some of this, and also need ideas about where to look next. Please let me know what you think. Mynda Holman McGuire

I was just perusing the maps on Rootsweb and supposedly in the early 1800's the "Arkansas Territory" covered all of Arkansas and Oklahoma. Does this effect research done by county in either state?? Thanks. Teri

Hi, We would like to have a birth certificate or a marriage license for Charley Lankford ....We know he was from the northwest part of AR but that is all...He married our grandmother, Nancy Ann Noss Warren Lankford.....she , at one time, lived in Eureka Springs, AR but we cannot find a trace of her....can you help? She was born in MO. We believe he was born in AR Thanks, Kathryn

Joe, I stumbled across: PRATT, Jesse Roy, b. 07 Jul 1892, in Union County AR, to Alice Lucy GOODSON. His Delayed Birth Certificate is at: Year 1942, Binder 1, Volume 234, Cert. No. 3607. It can be ordered at: <vitalrec.com/ar.html>. Best wishes, Ed

January 4, 1916: Fayetteville, Jan. 3 - Funeral services for I. W. Nettleship, aged 71, of Purdy, Mo., were held at the Central Presbyterian church here Saturday afternoon at 3 o'clock, conducted by the Rev. M. L. Gillespie. The body of Miss Florence Payne, 19 years old, who died Sunday at a local hospital, was sent yesterday morning by P. H. Ruebel & Co. to Bee Branch for burial. The body of Dee Conder, 26 years old, who died at a local hospital Sunday afternoon is being held at the parlors of P. H. Ruebel & Co., awaiting the arrival of his wife from Hoxie. She is expected this morning. Fayetteville, Jan 3 - Funeral services for J. C. Purdy were held this afternoon at St. Paul's Episcopal church, the body having arrived on the 1 o'clock train from Balanton, Miss., where death occurred Saturday from la grippe. Mr. Purdy was a resident of Fayetteville for 32 years. Ozark, Jan 3 - Larkin Nichols, aged 77, died at his home, six miles north of this place, yesterday morning. Prescott, Jan 3 - Mrs. Luther N. Westmoreland, wife of the county cotton weigher, died at her home here Sunday. Mrs. Westmoreland is survived by her husband and three children and five brothers, Newt Cook, Tom Cook of DeLeon, Tex., Cicero Cook of Rosston, Bea Cook, Baxter Cook of Denver, Colo., and one sister, Mrs. Gussie Curtis of Cale. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Could anyone tell me how much it cost for a copy of a marriage license from Garland Co.? I couldn't find anything to tell me on their website. I want to send for a copy of a marriage license and see about finding some burial sites of family. Thank you. Also what kind of information is on the Archives for Ar. I couldn't find very much. Am I not looking at the right thing? Thank you. Jean

Carl: sorry I have not been able to locate any information on this man in our files. the Greene County, AR courthouse burned about 1876. Russell P. Baker, CA Arkansas History Commission and State Archives One Capitol Mall Little Rock, AR 72201 501-682-6900 www.ark-ives.com [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> -----Original Message----- From: Carl Phillips [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AGS] BETTS, David C. Frantically searching for David C. BETTS. He was born in NY in 1803 but lived somewhere in AR prior to 1842 when he appeared in Indian Territory. I thought it was in Greene Co. but don't find him in the census. Any help gratefully received. Carl ==== AGS Mailing List ==== ARKANSAS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY 2002 FALL SEMINAR and BOOK FAIR Friday, October 11, and Saturday, October 12, 2002 Holiday Inn Airport-East, Little Rock, Arkansas I-440, Exit 3 (Airport Exit) For details see: http://www.rootsweb.com/~args/

Frantically searching for David C. BETTS. He was born in NY in 1803 but lived somewhere in AR prior to 1842 when he appeared in Indian Territory. I thought it was in Greene Co. but don't find him in the census. Any help gratefully received. Carl

If you are not one of the 390000 plus researchers who visited the website of the Arkansas History Commission and State Archives during Sept., 2002, you are missing out on an opportunity to further your Arkansas family research. Visit us on the web - then visit us in person. The address is www.ark-ives.com Russell P. Baker, CA Arkansas History Commission and State Archives One Capitol Mall Little Rock, AR 72201 501-682-6900 www.ark-ives.com [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

Sharon: Nothing on this man in the book entitled Obits of Benton County, AR 1914 - 1918. Russell P. Baker, CA Arkansas History Commission and State Archives One Capitol Mall Little Rock, AR 72201 501-682-6900 www.ark-ives.com [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> -----Original Message----- From: SHARON [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AGS] Obit's needed Still searching for the obits of John Theophulos Webb who died July 15, 1914 buried in Pea Ridge , Arkansas . Hoping the Obits will give me a clue on relative's and more on him and his family. also searching for help on obit of two of his children Maude Webb Cavaness she also is buried in Bentonville Cemetery , Arkansas. Maude Webb Cavaness died Aug 29, 1970 His son William Webb died Oct 25, 1970 he also is in Pea Ridge Cemetery. Arkansas. I hoping my search will lead me to grandchildren of William and Maude and we can share family history. Any help here is needed . Hope to find someone out there that has access to the Roger's Democrat or archives. I have been able only to locate the obit of Leona Webb she is the last wife of John. She passed away 1912 . Thanks in advance for any help . Sharon ==== AGS Mailing List ==== ARKANSAS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY 2002 FALL SEMINAR and BOOK FAIR Friday, October 11, and Saturday, October 12, 2002 Holiday Inn Airport-East, Little Rock, Arkansas I-440, Exit 3 (Airport Exit) For details see: http://www.rootsweb.com/~args/

Lisa: familysearch.org (the Mormon site) says that Joe Lee died in June of 1966. I would suggest that you try for a copy of his death certificate and then with his date of death from that try for an obit. Hope this helps. Russell P. Baker, CA Arkansas History Commission and State Archives One Capitol Mall Little Rock, AR 72201 501-682-6900 www.ark-ives.com [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Price [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 3:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AGS] LEE, Joseph b. 1888-9 d. 1966? Hi, all, Looking for an obit or other record of the passing of my ggf, Joseph W. Lee, who lived most or all of his life between Mabelvale and Little Rock. At one time he was married to Minnie Mashburn, farmed, later served as a city electrician in L.R. I believe his parents to be William C. and Annie (Markes) Mashburn, brother George and sister Lizzie. Looking to verify dates, burial place and kin. Thanks, Lisa in California ==== AGS Mailing List ==== The Arkansas History Commission has updated their website. www.ark-ives.com

Still searching for the obits of John Theophulos Webb who died July 15, 1914 buried in Pea Ridge , Arkansas . Hoping the Obits will give me a clue on relative's and more on him and his family. also searching for help on obit of two of his children Maude Webb Cavaness she also is buried in Bentonville Cemetery , Arkansas. Maude Webb Cavaness died Aug 29, 1970 His son William Webb died Oct 25, 1970 he also is in Pea Ridge Cemetery. Arkansas. I hoping my search will lead me to grandchildren of William and Maude and we can share family history. Any help here is needed . Hope to find someone out there that has access to the Roger's Democrat or archives. I have been able only to locate the obit of Leona Webb she is the last wife of John. She passed away 1912 . Thanks in advance for any help . Sharon

I hate to see a list give up the ghost and seems as though this one has! Well, let me try and spark it up somewhat. Arkansas Gazette January 19, 1916: Kingsland, Jan. 18 - W. J. Morgan, aged 71 years, ex-Confederate soldier, having served in the Second Arkansas Regiment during the Civil war, died at his home, six miles south of this place, yesterday. Lula, Okla, Jan 18 - M. A. Wooley, formerly of Greenbrier, Ark., died here January 11 of pneumonia. He is survived by one son and one daughter, Walter W. Wooley of Lula and Mrs. P. C. Hendrickson of Bartlettsville, Okla. He has relatives in Arkansas. Conway, Jan. 18 - Mrs. Julia May, 30 years old, died last night at her home here. Funeral services will be held tomorrow. Her husband and two children survive. Piggott, Jan 18 - The body of Arthur Hubbard, who died Sunday morning in the Missouri Pacific hospital at St. Louis, arrived here yesterday. He was the only son of the late Dr. W. H. Hubbard. He is survived by his mother, his twin sister, Miss Mabel Hubbard, and his uncle, L. Hubbard, of this city. Ozark, Jan 18 - A. J. Forrest, aged 76, a Confederate veteran, died at his home here, after a lingering illness. He has been a resident of Ozark for many years. He is survived by his wife, his sister, Mrs. James A. Berry, wife of the late Senator Berry, two sons and two daughters. Fayetteville, Jan 18 - W. Lee Duggans, aged 62, almost continuously for the past 30 years a resident of Fayetteville, died yesterday afternoon. Sulphur Springs, Jan 18 - T. J. Machamer, a Union soldier, died of paralysis yesterday morning. His body was sent to his former home in Aurora, Neb., for burial. A. J. Simpson, 65 years old, formerly of Russellville, died at Ocilla, Ga., yesterday, according to a message received by his brother-in-law, Charles Adams, 901 Water Street. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Hi, all, Looking for an obit or other record of the passing of my ggf, Joseph W. Lee, who lived most or all of his life between Mabelvale and Little Rock. At one time he was married to Minnie Mashburn, farmed, later served as a city electrician in L.R. I believe his parents to be William C. and Annie (Markes) Mashburn, brother George and sister Lizzie. Looking to verify dates, burial place and kin. Thanks, Lisa in California

Hi Listers: Another question for the historians of the list. If someone is old enough (ahem!) to have talked to someone who worked in the county clerk's office, Pulaski County State Clerk (or county), I would love to know if clerk's ever asked for input from family on spelling of name of deceased, if the deceased's name was really hard in spelling. I would just like to know, and I'm quite clear on the idea that there was rampant illiteracy, etc. But, if the deceased's family knew how to spell, did the county clerk allow them to tell them? I know this is a little idiotic, but I would just like to know! Looking up unusual names, I find myself using my imagination in finding alternatives in spelling (which helped immensely in my own research). Thank you for responses! Cyrille, the genealogy inquisitor!

Kim, I found Frank on the 1920 census images in AR, here is the info.. if you wish I can send you the image. It lists his wife and 2 kids: Hurley, Frank Age: 51 Year: 1920 Birthplace: Indiana Roll: T625_78 Race: White Page: 12B State: Arkansas ED: 114 County: Pulaski Image: 752 Township: Little Rock

I am looking for any descendants of Frank HURLEY, he was born ca 1862 in Indiana. He married Alfey ELMORE in Indiana. His father's obit list him living in Arkansas in 1906. His brother's obit lists him living in Little Rock Arkansas in 1928. I am in desperate need of an obit so I can see if he had any children??? Any information on Frank & Alfey ELMORE HURLEY would be greatly appreciated. Still Searching, Kim Hancock Volunteer for Montgomery county, Indiana