Dear Roger Beamer, Do you live in Arkansas? I know George and his family lived there and I believed they also died there. His daughter Mary has a family and was married twice. If you think it would help, I can send you more information on her. Since John Piggs Daughter supposedly married John Crum, I believe it could be his son George. Perhaps his name was John George Crum. Some relatives of the Pigg family gave me the information that Sarah Pigg married a Crum. There birth dates are near the same year too. If you have information from the graves in Arkansas, the dates and names would be beneficial. I have written to some people who lived in that area of Arkansas. I mill have to find their onto and check on it with them. Asella Crum > On Jan 4, 2019, at 4:33 PM, Roger Beamer <rjbeamer@cox.net> wrote: > > Asella it is very fascinating reading about all of the names that you have > been listing in this Email. In visiting the 12 corners Cemetery in Dyer Ar. > most of the last names listed here are abundant on the stones at 12 corners. > And some of them are connected to my family. Very interesting. > > Roger Beamer > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Asella Crum <fulcrum25@sio.midco.net> > Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 2:09 PM > To: ags@rootsweb.com > Subject: [AGS] Re: George Crum Family > > Dear Susan, > > George is the brother of Anderson Pigg Crum the direct line to my husband. > George is the son of John and Mary Polly Pigg. > I have Mary and her families all documented but have the puzzle with the mom > and exact death dates and marriage dates for Malissa and the parents. > > Thanks, Asella Crum > This was from the 150 census in AR. > CENSUS YR: 1850 STATE or TERRITORY: AR COUNTY: Washington DIVISION: Mountain > Twn. REEL NO: 31 PAGE NO: 364 REFERENCE: 18th Nov John Buchanan Ass't > Marshal LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. VAL. BIRTHPLACE > MRD. SC H. R/W DDB ==================================================== > 23 31 31 CRUM George 52 M Farmer 3,000 VA X > 24 31 31 CRUM Sally 53 F VA > 25 31 31 CRUM Malissa 24 F TN > 26 31 31 CRUM Mary 16 F Arkansas > > Another brother Sanford was also in AR near George Crum > > The information I have on Malissa indicate that she was married After 1860 > but before 1870. Her mother was no longer on the census after 1870 > > I would like to have the mothers full name. She is possibly Sarah Pigg > daughter of John and Delilah Chitwood

I have all of the 9 children of John and Mary Polly Pigg traced. I need there ancestry and more data on George’s wife. I have Mary his daughter traced. Malissa’s information regarding Isaac Williams is recent and I do not know his ancestry. I believe the TN people were relatives of Mary Polly Pigg Crum. John Crum was in Patrick co., VA. Their son Sanford was born in 1811. Mary may have died at that time. She may have been the daughter of James Pigg. It said that John died in GA. I have land records for him and Mary dated before 1831 so, I believe he would have been still in VA; however, I am not sure. Asella Crum. Xxxxxxiam trying to delete this so please ignore this line got Sent from my iPad On Jan 4, 2019, at 4:35 PM, Susan Boyle via AGS <ags@rootsweb.com> wrote: If Sally is the one you want to determine a family for: Where is John Pigg in 1800 and 1810? Does he have a daughter of right age to be Sally in his household in those years? That would be the first question to answer. If your families were in east TN in those years you're going to have a problem because there is no extant census. But there are other records. Did the Piggs follow a similar migration pattern to the Crums? Don't restrict your research to just the direct ancestor--find all the relatives or possible relatives and determine where they were when and who was living around them that might be connected. Other records that often show connections are probates, not necessarily just wills, but estate records and also deeds; sometimes families are found in deeds dividing inherited land or other property. Don't forget tax records--sometimes they are the only things that show members of families in the same place. Susan -----Original Message----- From: Asella Crum <fulcrum25@sio.midco.net> To: ags <ags@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 4, 2019 4:09 pm Subject: [AGS] Re: George Crum Family Dear Susan, George is the brother of Anderson Pigg Crum the direct line to my husband. George is the son of John and Mary Polly Pigg. I have Mary and her families all documented but have the puzzle with the mom and exact death dates and marriage dates for Malissa and the parents. Thanks, Asella Crum This was from the 150 census in AR. CENSUS YR: 1850 STATE or TERRITORY: AR COUNTY: Washington DIVISION: Mountain Twn. REEL NO: 31 PAGE NO: 364 REFERENCE: 18th Nov John Buchanan Ass't Marshal LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. VAL. BIRTHPLACE MRD. SC H. R/W DDB ==================================================== 23 31 31 CRUM George 52 M Farmer 3,000 VA X 24 31 31 CRUM Sally 53 F VA 25 31 31 CRUM Malissa 24 F TN 26 31 31 CRUM Mary 16 F Arkansas Another brother Sanford was also in AR near George Crum The information I have on Malissa indicate that she was married After 1860 but before 1870. Her mother was no longer on the census after 1870 I would like to have the mothers full name. She is possibly Sarah Pigg daughter of John and Delilah Chitwood 1850. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Boyle via AGS [mailto:ags@rootsweb.com] Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 4:17 PM To: ags@rootsweb.com Cc: Susan Boyle Subject: [AGS] Re: George Crum Family Have you tracked your Crum family back to this George Crum in 1850 Washington Co., AR? In other words, do you know which child of his is your ancestor? If you do, then go online to FamilySearch.org (free) and look at the actual census record for George in 1850 Washington Co. and print it out and not rely on someone else's transcription. The actual census record shows Melissa age 24 as born in Tenn. and another possible daughter Mary age 16 born in AR. That means that in 1825-26 or so this family was in TN, but in 1834 they were living in AR. I would look for a marriage in TN. AND on the same 1850 census page next to George is Sanford Crum, age 39, farmer, born VA, too old to be George's son but perhaps is his brother; Sanford's wife Mary was 28 and born in TN. They are in Mountain Twp., stamped p. 366. I have no idea who the Moore's are to these people except they were neighbors. On the other side of George is Lucinda Moore who appears to be a widow age 51, born VA, oldest child age 24, born in TN. Always look at his neighbors in the census (3 or 4 pages in either direction at least) and see if there are any other Crum/Crumms/Crumbs there and get their ages and places of birth and any other families with similar migration histories. When look for George in the 1840 census of AR you will find the George Crumb household in Mountain Twp., Washington Co. on p. 260, line 17, with one male age 15 to under 20, one male age 40-49, one male age 50-59, one female under 5, one female age 5-9, and one female age 40-49. [George should be age 42 according to 1850 census and Sally should be age 43]. So who is the 50-59 year old male? In 1830 he might have been in AR or TN. Also look for changes in the wife's age just in case one died and he married again. As to land records, you may have the wrong section number for the first entry below. Section 25 would sit directly north of Section 36, but Section 30 would be 6 sections west of Section 25, not making for easy farming. Are you sure the first entry below is not also Section 36? You should also get the 1/4 or 1/2 sections so you can plot how the pieces of land fit together within the sections. CRUM GEORGE Washington 30 15N 31W 40.97 1838/08/20 CRUMM GEORGE Washington 25 15N 32W 40 1839/09/20 CRUMM GEORGE Washington 36 15N 32W 40 1843/03/10 _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: ags@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey ags-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ags@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: ags@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey ags-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ags@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

If Sally is the one you want to determine a family for: Where is John Pigg in 1800 and 1810? Does he have a daughter of right age to be Sally in his household in those years? That would be the first question to answer. If your families were in east TN in those years you're going to have a problem because there is no extant census. But there are other records. Did the Piggs follow a similar migration pattern to the Crums? Don't restrict your research to just the direct ancestor--find all the relatives or possible relatives and determine where they were when and who was living around them that might be connected. Other records that often show connections are probates, not necessarily just wills, but estate records and also deeds; sometimes families are found in deeds dividing inherited land or other property. Don't forget tax records--sometimes they are the only things that show members of families in the same place.  Susan  -----Original Message----- From: Asella Crum <fulcrum25@sio.midco.net> To: ags <ags@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 4, 2019 4:09 pm Subject: [AGS] Re: George Crum Family Dear Susan, George is the brother of Anderson Pigg Crum the direct line to my husband.  George is the son of John and Mary Polly Pigg. I have Mary and her families all documented but have the puzzle with the mom and exact death dates and marriage dates for Malissa and the parents. Thanks, Asella Crum This was from the 150 census in AR. CENSUS YR: 1850 STATE or TERRITORY: AR COUNTY: Washington DIVISION: Mountain Twn. REEL NO: 31 PAGE NO: 364 REFERENCE: 18th Nov John Buchanan Ass't Marshal LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. VAL. BIRTHPLACE MRD. SC H. R/W DDB ==================================================== 23 31 31  CRUM    George      52 M      Farmer  3,000    VA X 24 31 31  CRUM    Sally        53 F                  VA 25 31 31  CRUM      Malissa  24 F                  TN 26 31 31  CRUM      Mary      16 F        Arkansas Another brother Sanford was also in AR near George Crum The information I have on Malissa indicate that she was married After 1860 but before 1870.  Her mother was no longer on the census after 1870 I would like to have the mothers full name.  She is possibly Sarah Pigg daughter of John and  Delilah Chitwood 1850. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Boyle via AGS [mailto:ags@rootsweb.com] Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 4:17 PM To: ags@rootsweb.com Cc: Susan Boyle Subject: [AGS] Re: George Crum Family Have you tracked your Crum family back to this George Crum in 1850 Washington Co., AR? In other words, do you know which child of his is your ancestor?  If you do, then go online to FamilySearch.org (free) and look at the actual census record for George in 1850 Washington Co. and print it out and not rely on someone else's transcription. The actual census record shows Melissa age 24 as born in Tenn. and another possible daughter Mary age 16 born in AR. That means that in 1825-26 or so this family was in TN, but in 1834 they were living in AR. I would look for a marriage in TN. AND on the same 1850 census page next to George is Sanford Crum, age 39, farmer, born VA, too old to be George's son but perhaps is his brother; Sanford's wife Mary was 28 and born in TN. They are in Mountain Twp., stamped p. 366. I have no idea who the Moore's are to these people except they were neighbors. On the other side of George is Lucinda Moore who appears to be a widow age 51, born VA, oldest child age 24, born in TN. Always look at his neighbors in the census (3 or 4 pages in either direction at least) and see if there are any other Crum/Crumms/Crumbs there and get their ages and places of birth and any other families with similar migration histories.  When look for George in the 1840 census of AR you will find the George Crumb household in Mountain Twp., Washington Co. on p. 260, line 17, with one male age 15 to under 20, one male age 40-49, one male age 50-59, one female under 5, one female age 5-9,  and one female age 40-49. [George should be age 42 according to 1850 census and Sally should be age 43]. So who is the 50-59 year old male? In 1830 he might have been in AR or TN. Also look for changes in the wife's age just in case one died and he married again.  As to land records,  you may have the wrong section number for the first entry below. Section 25 would sit directly north of Section 36, but Section 30 would be 6 sections west of Section 25, not making for easy farming. Are you sure the first entry below is not also Section 36? You should also get the 1/4 or 1/2 sections so you can plot how the pieces of land fit together within the sections. CRUM    GEORGE            Washington  30 15N 31W  40.97 1838/08/20 CRUMM    GEORGE          Washington  25 15N 32W    40  1839/09/20 CRUMM    GEORGE          Washington  36 15N 32W    40  1843/03/10 _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: ags@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey ags-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ags@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Asella it is very fascinating reading about all of the names that you have been listing in this Email. In visiting the 12 corners Cemetery in Dyer Ar. most of the last names listed here are abundant on the stones at 12 corners. And some of them are connected to my family. Very interesting. Roger Beamer -----Original Message----- From: Asella Crum <fulcrum25@sio.midco.net> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 2:09 PM To: ags@rootsweb.com Subject: [AGS] Re: George Crum Family Dear Susan, George is the brother of Anderson Pigg Crum the direct line to my husband. George is the son of John and Mary Polly Pigg. I have Mary and her families all documented but have the puzzle with the mom and exact death dates and marriage dates for Malissa and the parents. Thanks, Asella Crum This was from the 150 census in AR. CENSUS YR: 1850 STATE or TERRITORY: AR COUNTY: Washington DIVISION: Mountain Twn. REEL NO: 31 PAGE NO: 364 REFERENCE: 18th Nov John Buchanan Ass't Marshal LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. VAL. BIRTHPLACE MRD. SC H. R/W DDB ==================================================== 23 31 31 CRUM George 52 M Farmer 3,000 VA X 24 31 31 CRUM Sally 53 F VA 25 31 31 CRUM Malissa 24 F TN 26 31 31 CRUM Mary 16 F Arkansas Another brother Sanford was also in AR near George Crum The information I have on Malissa indicate that she was married After 1860 but before 1870. Her mother was no longer on the census after 1870 I would like to have the mothers full name. She is possibly Sarah Pigg daughter of John and Delilah Chitwood 1850. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Boyle via AGS [mailto:ags@rootsweb.com] Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 4:17 PM To: ags@rootsweb.com Cc: Susan Boyle Subject: [AGS] Re: George Crum Family Have you tracked your Crum family back to this George Crum in 1850 Washington Co., AR? In other words, do you know which child of his is your ancestor? If you do, then go online to FamilySearch.org (free) and look at the actual census record for George in 1850 Washington Co. and print it out and not rely on someone else's transcription. The actual census record shows Melissa age 24 as born in Tenn. and another possible daughter Mary age 16 born in AR. That means that in 1825-26 or so this family was in TN, but in 1834 they were living in AR. I would look for a marriage in TN. AND on the same 1850 census page next to George is Sanford Crum, age 39, farmer, born VA, too old to be George's son but perhaps is his brother; Sanford's wife Mary was 28 and born in TN. They are in Mountain Twp., stamped p. 366. I have no idea who the Moore's are to these people except they were neighbors. On the other side of George is Lucinda Moore who appears to be a widow age 51, born VA, oldest child age 24, born in TN. Always look at his neighbors in the census (3 or 4 pages in either direction at least) and see if there are any other Crum/Crumms/Crumbs there and get their ages and places of birth and any other families with similar migration histories. When look for George in the 1840 census of AR you will find the George Crumb household in Mountain Twp., Washington Co. on p. 260, line 17, with one male age 15 to under 20, one male age 40-49, one male age 50-59, one female under 5, one female age 5-9, and one female age 40-49. [George should be age 42 according to 1850 census and Sally should be age 43]. So who is the 50-59 year old male? In 1830 he might have been in AR or TN. Also look for changes in the wife's age just in case one died and he married again. As to land records, you may have the wrong section number for the first entry below. Section 25 would sit directly north of Section 36, but Section 30 would be 6 sections west of Section 25, not making for easy farming. Are you sure the first entry below is not also Section 36? You should also get the 1/4 or 1/2 sections so you can plot how the pieces of land fit together within the sections. CRUM GEORGE Washington 30 15N 31W 40.97 1838/08/20 CRUMM GEORGE Washington 25 15N 32W 40 1839/09/20 CRUMM GEORGE Washington 36 15N 32W 40 1843/03/10 _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: ags@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey ags-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ags@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Dear Susan, George is the brother of Anderson Pigg Crum the direct line to my husband. George is the son of John and Mary Polly Pigg. I have Mary and her families all documented but have the puzzle with the mom and exact death dates and marriage dates for Malissa and the parents. Thanks, Asella Crum This was from the 150 census in AR. CENSUS YR: 1850 STATE or TERRITORY: AR COUNTY: Washington DIVISION: Mountain Twn. REEL NO: 31 PAGE NO: 364 REFERENCE: 18th Nov John Buchanan Ass't Marshal LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. VAL. BIRTHPLACE MRD. SC H. R/W DDB ==================================================== 23 31 31 CRUM George 52 M Farmer 3,000 VA X 24 31 31 CRUM Sally 53 F VA 25 31 31 CRUM Malissa 24 F TN 26 31 31 CRUM Mary 16 F Arkansas Another brother Sanford was also in AR near George Crum The information I have on Malissa indicate that she was married After 1860 but before 1870. Her mother was no longer on the census after 1870 I would like to have the mothers full name. She is possibly Sarah Pigg daughter of John and Delilah Chitwood 1850. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Boyle via AGS [mailto:ags@rootsweb.com] Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 4:17 PM To: ags@rootsweb.com Cc: Susan Boyle Subject: [AGS] Re: George Crum Family Have you tracked your Crum family back to this George Crum in 1850 Washington Co., AR? In other words, do you know which child of his is your ancestor? If you do, then go online to FamilySearch.org (free) and look at the actual census record for George in 1850 Washington Co. and print it out and not rely on someone else's transcription. The actual census record shows Melissa age 24 as born in Tenn. and another possible daughter Mary age 16 born in AR. That means that in 1825-26 or so this family was in TN, but in 1834 they were living in AR. I would look for a marriage in TN. AND on the same 1850 census page next to George is Sanford Crum, age 39, farmer, born VA, too old to be George's son but perhaps is his brother; Sanford's wife Mary was 28 and born in TN. They are in Mountain Twp., stamped p. 366. I have no idea who the Moore's are to these people except they were neighbors. On the other side of George is Lucinda Moore who appears to be a widow age 51, born VA, oldest child age 24, born in TN. Always look at his neighbors in the census (3 or 4 pages in either direction at least) and see if there are any other Crum/Crumms/Crumbs there and get their ages and places of birth and any other families with similar migration histories. When look for George in the 1840 census of AR you will find the George Crumb household in Mountain Twp., Washington Co. on p. 260, line 17, with one male age 15 to under 20, one male age 40-49, one male age 50-59, one female under 5, one female age 5-9, and one female age 40-49. [George should be age 42 according to 1850 census and Sally should be age 43]. So who is the 50-59 year old male? In 1830 he might have been in AR or TN. Also look for changes in the wife's age just in case one died and he married again. As to land records, you may have the wrong section number for the first entry below. Section 25 would sit directly north of Section 36, but Section 30 would be 6 sections west of Section 25, not making for easy farming. Are you sure the first entry below is not also Section 36? You should also get the 1/4 or 1/2 sections so you can plot how the pieces of land fit together within the sections. CRUM GEORGE Washington 30 15N 31W 40.97 1838/08/20 CRUMM GEORGE Washington 25 15N 32W 40 1839/09/20 CRUMM GEORGE Washington 36 15N 32W 40 1843/03/10

Have you tracked your Crum family back to this George Crum in 1850 Washington Co., AR? In other words, do you know which child of his is your ancestor?   If you do, then go online to FamilySearch.org (free) and look at the actual census record for George in 1850 Washington Co. and print it out and not rely on someone else's transcription. The actual census record shows Melissa age 24 as born in Tenn. and another possible daughter Mary age 16 born in AR. That means that in 1825-26 or so this family was in TN, but in 1834 they were living in AR. I would look for a marriage in TN. AND on the same 1850 census page next to George is Sanford Crum, age 39, farmer, born VA, too old to be George's son but perhaps is his brother; Sanford's wife Mary was 28 and born in TN. They are in Mountain Twp., stamped p. 366. On the other side of George is Lucinda Moore who appears to be a widow age 51, born VA, oldest child age 24, born in TN. Always look at his neighbors in the census (3 or 4 pages in either direction at least) and see if there are any other Crum/Crumms/Crumbs there and get their ages and places of birth and any other families with similar migration histories.   When look for George in the 1840 census of AR you will find the George Crumb household in Mountain Twp., Washington Co. on p. 260, line 17, with one male age 15 to under 20, one male age 40-49, one male age 50-59, one female under 5, one female age 5-9,  and one female age 40-49. [George should be age 42 according to 1850 census and Sally should be age 43]. So who is the 50-59 year old male? In 1830 he might have been in AR or TN. Also look for changes in the wife's age just in case one died and he married again.   As to land records,  you may have the wrong section number for the first entry below. Section 25 would sit directly north of Section 36, but Section 30 would be 6 sections west of Section 25, not making for easy farming. Are you sure the first entry below is not also Section 36? You should also get the 1/4 or 1/2 sections so you can plot how the pieces of land fit together within the sections. CRUM    GEORGE            Washington  30 15N 31W  40.97 1838/08/20 CRUMM    GEORGE          Washington  25 15N 32W    40  1839/09/20 CRUMM    GEORGE          Washington  36 15N 32W    40  1843/03/10 -----Original Message----- From: fulcrum25 <fulcrum25@sio.midco.net> To: Susan Boyle via AGS <ags@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 3, 2019 2:46 pm Subject: [AGS] Re: George Crum Family Dear Susan Boyle, This is what I have that looks official on these people.  I hope it will help you to verify who they actually are as far as the family is concerned.I could not verify George Crum's wife's name. "From: Dgreen909h@cs.com To: fulcrum25@home.com  Sent: Wednesday, April 1 8, 2001 6:33 AM Subject: Re: Sarah Pigg I have very little on her, just that she married a Mr. Crum. Also, I have she was born @ 1797 IN VA.  Sorry I am no help.  Dortha"  This is about the same age as George Crum who was born 10.Dec.1798 in Patrick Co. VA Thank you for any help you may give to me.  I have a lot of information on Pigg Families but have not verified the connection. Asella Crum [Brøderbund Family Archive #317, Ed. 1, Census Index: U.S. Selected Counties, 1850, Date of Import: Aug 9, 2002, Internal Ref. #1.317.1.7541.54] Individual: Crum, George County/State: Washington Co., AR Location: Mountain Twp Page #: 366 Year: 1850 Arkansas Last name  First name  Init County      Sec Twp Rng  Acres ---Date--- War rant Name and/or Remarks CRUM    GEORGE            Washington  30 15N 31W  40.97 1838/08/20 CRUMM    GEORGE          Washington  25 15N 32W    40  1839/09/20 CRUMM    GEORGE          Washington  36 15N 32W    40  1843/03/10 CRUMP    GEORGE          J Boone        3  17N 21W    40  1884/11/01 CRUMP    GEORGE          J Carroll      30 21N 26W    40  1882/06/20 CENSUS YR: 1850 STATE or TERRITORY: AR COUNTY: Washington DIVISION: Mounta in Twn. REEL NO: 31 PAGE NO: 364REFERENCE: 18th Nov John Buchanan Ass't Ma rshal LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. VAL. BIRTHPLACE MRD. SC H. R/W DDB ==================================================== 23 31 31  CRUM    George      52 M      Farmer  3,000    VA X 24 31 31  CRUM    Sally        53 F                                VA 25 31 31  CRUM    Malissa      24 F                                Arkansas From: "Mary Gitchel" _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: ags@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey ags-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ags@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Dear Susan Boyle, This is what I have that looks official on these people. I hope it will help you to verify who they actually are as far as the family is concerned.I could not verify George Crum's wife's name. "From: Dgreen909h@cs.com To: fulcrum25@home.com Sent: Wednesday, April 1 8, 2001 6:33 AM Subject: Re: Sarah Pigg I have very little on her, just that she married a Mr. Crum. Also, I have she was born @ 1797 IN VA. Sorry I am no help. Dortha" This is about the same age as George Crum who was born 10.Dec.1798 in Patrick Co. VA Thank you for any help you may give to me. I have a lot of information on Pigg Families but have not verified the connection. Asella Crum [Brøderbund Family Archive #317, Ed. 1, Census Index: U.S. Selected Counties, 1850, Date of Import: Aug 9, 2002, Internal Ref. #1.317.1.7541.54] Individual: Crum, George County/State: Washington Co., AR Location: Mountain Twp Page #: 366 Year: 1850 Arkansas Last name First name Init County Sec Twp Rng Acres ---Date--- War rant Name and/or Remarks CRUM GEORGE Washington 30 15N 31W 40.97 1838/08/20 CRUMM GEORGE Washington 25 15N 32W 40 1839/09/20 CRUMM GEORGE Washington 36 15N 32W 40 1843/03/10 CRUMP GEORGE J Boone 3 17N 21W 40 1884/11/01 CRUMP GEORGE J Carroll 30 21N 26W 40 1882/06/20 CENSUS YR: 1850 STATE or TERRITORY: AR COUNTY: Washington DIVISION: Mounta in Twn. REEL NO: 31 PAGE NO: 364REFERENCE: 18th Nov John Buchanan Ass't Ma rshal LN HN FN LAST NAME FIRST NAME AGE SEX RACE OCCUP. VAL. BIRTHPLACE MRD. SC H. R/W DDB ==================================================== 23 31 31 CRUM George 52 M Farmer 3,000 VA X 24 31 31 CRUM Sally 53 F VA 25 31 31 CRUM Malissa 24 F Arkansas From: "Mary Gitchel"

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Where did these people live and in what time period? Susan Boyle -----Original Message----- From: fulcrum25 <fulcrum25@sio.midco.net> To: ags <ags@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jan 2, 2019 6:46 pm Subject: [AGS] George Crum Family Malissa Crum married Isaak Williams.  I would like to know something of his heritage.  If there is anyone with information about her mother S. Crum, I would like that too. Thanks, Asella Crum _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: ags@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey ags-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ags@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Malissa Crum married Isaak Williams. I would like to know something of his heritage. If there is anyone with information about her mother S. Crum, I would like that too. Thanks, Asella Crum

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Thanks for all you do. Bobbie Lancaster -----Original Message----- From: Susan Boyle via AGS [mailto:ags@rootsweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 12:19 PM To: ags@rootsweb.com Cc: Susan Boyle Subject: [AGS] Re: Mail List Admin Post Please Read Is this supposed to be a list-serve for the Arkansas Genealogical Society? I don't even know how to find it, let alone to subscribe. Susan Boyle -----Original Message----- From: Dee via AGS <ags@rootsweb.com> To: Dee Pavey <pcmom@aol.com> Cc: Dee <pcmom@aol.com> Sent: Wed, Jan 2, 2019 12:30 am Subject: [AGS] Mail List Admin Post Please Read Hi everyone! I wanted to take a minute to remind you all that you’re on this list and invite you to post your queries, questions, comments, data, etc. It has been said by Rootsweb that mail lists that aren’t active will be deleted. Let’s make sure this isn’t one of those lists!! Please remember the following when posting: Stick close to the topic of the list. Sometimes posts will go a tad off…that’s ok. But please no politics, no chain letters and don’t be rude to others. If you don’t like something that was posted please contact me at pcmom@aol.com <mailto:pcmom@aol.com> and I’ll look in to it. You all have a great day and start posting! :-) Dee List Admin _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: ags@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey ags-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ags@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: ags@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey ags-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ags@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Is this supposed to be a list-serve for the Arkansas Genealogical Society? I don't even know how to find it, let alone to subscribe.  Susan Boyle -----Original Message----- From: Dee via AGS <ags@rootsweb.com> To: Dee Pavey <pcmom@aol.com> Cc: Dee <pcmom@aol.com> Sent: Wed, Jan 2, 2019 12:30 am Subject: [AGS] Mail List Admin Post Please Read Hi everyone! I wanted to take a minute to remind you all that you’re on this list and invite you to post your queries, questions, comments, data, etc. It has been said by Rootsweb that mail lists that aren’t active will be deleted.  Let’s make sure this isn’t one of those lists!!  Please remember the following when posting: Stick close to the topic of the list.  Sometimes posts will go a tad off…that’s ok.  But please no politics, no chain letters and don’t be rude to others.  If you don’t like something that was posted please contact me at pcmom@aol.com <mailto:pcmom@aol.com> and I’ll look in to it. You all have a great day and start posting! :-) Dee List Admin _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: ags@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey ags-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ags@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi everyone! I wanted to take a minute to remind you all that you’re on this list and invite you to post your queries, questions, comments, data, etc. It has been said by Rootsweb that mail lists that aren’t active will be deleted. Let’s make sure this isn’t one of those lists!! Please remember the following when posting: Stick close to the topic of the list. Sometimes posts will go a tad off…that’s ok. But please no politics, no chain letters and don’t be rude to others. If you don’t like something that was posted please contact me at pcmom@aol.com <mailto:pcmom@aol.com> and I’ll look in to it. You all have a great day and start posting! :-) Dee List Admin

TO Chuck Bailey, I seen your info on your family member, I have Ancestry, so if you will give me hisfull name, place of birth,and other states he might have lived. Year of birth, names of family members known. I will look and seewhat info I can find...Mildred Neeley Tatum in Ca.  I was born in AR. myself On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 1:01 AM, "ags-request@rootsweb.com" <ags-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: Send AGS mailing list submissions to     ags@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     ags-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at     ags-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AGS digest..."Today's Topics:   1. Earliest Arkansas Ancestor (Chuck Bailey) It would appear that Thomas Doyle of Fort Smith is the earliest member of my family to arrive in Arkansas. The 1860 Census shows Thomas to be 50 years old and owning a family grocery. Thomas gave Ireland as his birthplace. The oldest of the Doyle children shown to be born in Arkansas is a girl named Mary - something, I can’t make it out if there is a middle name or a different last name - who may or may not be Thomas’s child.  There is a son, Thomas, who is listed as being 12 years old.  If that is accurate then the Doyle’s would have arrived in Arkansas in the late 1840’s. If anyone has any additional information about Thomas or the grocery I would very much appreciate learning more about him.  What I do know is that his son James married Mary Maledon, the daughter of George Maledon who’s place in Arkansas history is well documented.  The Maledon’s arrived in Ft Smith when George was 18 so, that would put them in the area in 1848. Digest Subscribers: Please Remember to remove all unnecessary portions of the digest when replying to the list.  Larger emails will not be accepted through the list and will require moderator approval.

On Wednesday, May 9, 2018 1:01 AM, "ags-request@rootsweb.com" <ags-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: Send AGS mailing list submissions to     ags@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to     ags-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at     ags-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AGS digest..."Today's Topics:   1. Earliest Arkansas Ancestor (Chuck Bailey) It would appear that Thomas Doyle of Fort Smith is the earliest member of my family to arrive in Arkansas. The 1860 Census shows Thomas to be 50 years old and owning a family grocery. Thomas gave Ireland as his birthplace. The oldest of the Doyle children shown to be born in Arkansas is a girl named Mary - something, I can’t make it out if there is a middle name or a different last name - who may or may not be Thomas’s child.  There is a son, Thomas, who is listed as being 12 years old.  If that is accurate then the Doyle’s would have arrived in Arkansas in the late 1840’s. If anyone has any additional information about Thomas or the grocery I would very much appreciate learning more about him.  What I do know is that his son James married Mary Maledon, the daughter of George Maledon who’s place in Arkansas history is well documented.  The Maledon’s arrived in Ft Smith when George was 18 so, that would put them in the area in 1848. Digest Subscribers: Please Remember to remove all unnecessary portions of the digest when replying to the list.  Larger emails will not be accepted through the list and will require moderator approval.

It would appear that Thomas Doyle of Fort Smith is the earliest member of my family to arrive in Arkansas. The 1860 Census shows Thomas to be 50 years old and owning a family grocery. Thomas gave Ireland as his birthplace. The oldest of the Doyle children shown to be born in Arkansas is a girl named Mary - something, I can’t make it out if there is a middle name or a different last name - who may or may not be Thomas’s child. There is a son, Thomas, who is listed as being 12 years old. If that is accurate then the Doyle’s would have arrived in Arkansas in the late 1840’s. If anyone has any additional information about Thomas or the grocery I would very much appreciate learning more about him. What I do know is that his son James married Mary Maledon, the daughter of George Maledon who’s place in Arkansas history is well documented. The Maledon’s arrived in Ft Smith when George was 18 so, that would put them in the area in 1848.

http://www.countyhistorian.com/cecilweb/index.php/Isaac_Snodgrass_(d._1850) Isaac Snodgrass was born in Tennessee between 1800 and 1808. The name of his wife is unknown, but possibly was that Nancy Long who married an Isaac Snodgrass on 31 Dec 1822 in Jefferson County, Tennessee. But perhaps speaking against that, their eldest known child Joseph Snodgrass was not born until 11 Jan 1827 in Tennessee. Shortly after the birth of that child, the family for some reason moved west to the Lovely Purchase, where the land on which they squatted is probably now part of Oklahoma. In mid-1828 all whites were evicted from this area, and so the family moved to or near the town of Mulberry then in Crawford County. Their next children were born here: Robert Bean Snodgrass on 29 Jan 1830, Andrew Jackson Snodgrass on 25 Sep 1831, and James Snodgrass on 25 Apr 1833. At the end of 1837, in December, the legislature created the county of Franklin out of the Eastern-half of Crawford. Now in Franklin County, the family had Jefferson Snodgrass on either the 7th or the 9th of Feb 1838, Mary Francis Snodgrass on 11 Dec 1839, the twins John Snodgrass and Eliza Ann Snodgrass on 8 Feb 1842, and finally Elizabeth Jane Snodgrass on 10 Dec 1844.

Hi Everyone I’m the list admin for this and many other lists. If you receive this message multiple times that’s why. Each month I’m going to be sending out a message to my lists to remind everyone that you’re here and to post to the list. I will have a suggested topic or question to answer for everyone to, hopefully, get the conversation going. I’d love to see the Rootsweb lists get back to what they once were. Discussion Question for 26APR2018 -------- Who is your earliest Arkansas ancestor? Please provide details so others may have the opportunity to help you. If you can help others, please do! -------- I’m inviting everyone to post to this list. You don’t have to answer the discussion question you can post your questions, triumphs, etc.. Please remember, stay on-topic with the list. (I’m not a strict admin, I don’t mind chit chat at all, especially on smaller lists such as this one. Just try to keep it to Arkansas genealogy and, as always, be nice.) I hope you all have a wonderful day! Dee Admin ags@rootsweb.com <mailto:ags@rootsweb.com> GenLady http://www.genlady.com <http://www.genlady.com/>

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