This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/mJ.2ADEB/16.67.1 Message Board Post: Douglas, I have a piece of a letter written by my grandmother, Alice O'Rear to her daughter, to my Aunt Patricia Fillpot, it's very short, she says Elizabeth Kortman Erdelbrock(her grandma) was a baroness in her own right, but married a commoner and that ended that, she says we are related to Kaiser Wilhelm but doesn't say how or which one. My Great Uncle Ivan said that when "they" arrived in the United States they had a suitcase full of money. I have never seen Lisette's name spelled like that. There is a marked difference in the way the Adrians and Erdelbrocks dressed compared to the way my dad's family dressed in those old photos and I felt that they had money. I live in Missouri about 100 miles south of Kansas City and have wanted to get to Lawrence during the week when the courthouse and libraries are open but have not had a chance to get there. Peggy