I found a Joseph Adrian listed as a passenger on the ship SS Herder in 1879. His occupation was listed as butcher. My Otto was a butcher too. Could be a family thing. Does anyone know anything about this Joseph Adrian. He was 21 at the time he came to New York. Andrea [email protected] Tucker,Post,Adrian~VanEtten,Jones~Noice,Olmstead Whitman,Miller,Stilwell