Hello everyone. I'm forwarding this information to the ADRIAN list on behalf of Carol Spielman. She's subscribed but is having some beginner's trouble getting the knack of the list and the computer in general, and she seems to have a persnickety machine anyway. So if you have any comments or can help her, please respond both to the list and to Carol directly at [email protected] I know she'll appreciate it. I'm summarizing several e-mails, so correct me if I get anything wrong, Carol! Heinrich ADRIAN was born 1815 in Muhle, W. Prussia and died 1895 in Neustadt, West Prussia. He married 8/6/1843 in Bordzichowa to Louise FRIEDEL (born 1816 in Ossowo Prussia, daughter of Peter Schmonke and Wilhelmine Friedel). Heinrich's occupation was eisenhammerschmiedegeselle (blacksmith), supposedly for Kaiser Wilhelm. The family was Mennonite though they later became Lutherans and Evangelicals. Children of Heinrich and Louise were: -Herman August Adrian, born 3 Jan. 1846 in Mroze, died 24 Sept. 1929 in Chicago, Ill. married Bertha Kaminske 1 Sept, 1875 -Amelia Ernstine Adrian -Otto Ferdinand Adrian -Lina Thurand -Ella Brunlinger -Julius Wilhelm Adrian (died Feb. 1906 in Adelaide, Australia) Carol's great grandfather Herman and his wife, Bertha Kaminske, came to the U.S. in or before 1880 where they show up on the census in Chicago. According to the census, they had 9 children but all had died except for Carol's grandmother and her sister. She doesn't know how many came to America. I'll just cut and paste this part of Carol's mail with some questions: "The question remains, where were my great grandparents married, were the children born here or in Prussia , if in Prussia, did any of them make it to the states? Does the name Kraft mean anything to you? These were cousins of my grandmother's and on one of the ships manifests, I saw the Prokraft family traveled not only with their children to the states but they had a few of the Adrian children with them." Again, if you want to reply, please do so to both the list and to Carol directly. Thanks. Jodi Reifsnyder Adrian ADRIAN List Admin.