This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/CI.2ADEB/8456.1 Message Board Post: Hi, its dave again. Have you tried Neff , Nesh or Ness. I am pretty sure it is neff though but will find some confirmation for you. I have the surnames pretty close to the ashby line. my grandmother was Cecile ashby and her mother was Irena adams and have seen cards, letters or something around here with that name. I will e mail you when i find it. Its bugging me now so it will probably be tomorrow . The photo you had earlier with the ashbys- oldest was of Ollie ashby who married irene adams - my great grandparents. It was an aunt or cousin real close in here.