Ed, On this and a couple of previous posts, you seem to be defending SAW against unseen critics. Acadian genealogy is based upon a lot more than just the census records as documented by the lengthy list of references in Le Dictionnaire. It isn't necessary to downplay the work of those who preceded SAW. SAW graciously acknowledges the work of many others who have contributed and are contributing to Acadian genealogy. For the record, the Le Blanc line in France was connected to Royalty [not the Acadian Le Blanc line]. Stanley LeBlanc www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: Edmond Barrieau [mailto:edlor13@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:30 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] COMEAU Family Good morning: About the Comeau Family, we have a typical piece of Acadian wishful thinking. I have been assembling both Acadian and French-Canadian Genealogy for almost 30 years. My own ancestry is 97% Acadian, 3% French-Canadian. Until 2 years ago,I lived close to excellent French-Canadian data sources. Almost invariably, such sources will supply the points of origin in France, including names of parents, and the actual parish. Acadian genealogy, on the other hand, was based largely on data gotten from census reports. Such data lent itself to error. Bona Arsenault, who was NOT a genealogist, used methods that often produced erroneous conclusions as to who married whom. I had the good fortune of consulting with Steve White many times, several times in his office. Frequently, I have read letters asking why we hold Steve up as a God. Simply, Steve and his operation in Moncton are by far the most thorough, best organized Genealogical organization doing any sort of French Genealogy. For many years, there have been letters tying Commeau to deCommeau, LeBlanc to French royalty,parents of JEAN BLANCHARD, and of FRANCOIS GUERIN,etc.,etc. It has been several years since these errors have been corrected by Steve White. If one has a significant amount of Acadian ancestry, I would urge the purchase of the Steve White "DICTIONNAIRES". However, I must caution that, generally, errors (often in Arsenault) that were made on Genealogy after 1714 will not show up in these books.There then are two alternatives, 1)to go to CENTRE d'ETUDE ACADIENNES, in Moncton, or 2) to wait for the next set of books, later this year. ACADIAN genealogy is NOT easy !! For those who do not have a lot of Acadian, write in with your problems, and hope that your answers have up-to-date and correct answers. As for spellings of names, my own name has 30+ spellings. The first BARRIEAU(BARILLOT) could not write,so the first census taker use a spelling with which he was familiar. Very probably, the same thing occurred with COMEAU.What is correct? WE DO NOT KNOW !! Hope this letter throws a little light !! ED BARRIEAU Albuquerque, NM 87114 edlor13@comcast.net ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/ACADIAN-CAJUN.html This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237
Hi Ed, Well I am personally happy to see someone besides me publicly defend and uphold the work of Stephen White. Though true that other works and researchers preceded him, it is also true that he is the one who has taken some of those works to prove or disprove them before he could move forward with his own work and so that we would all have the most accurate information available at this time in our history. When people say how long they waited for the first two volumes that we now have in hand, that is why. It has always been a matter of more digging and accuracy. There are also some people on this list who Stephen White has helped when they were stuck and could go no further. So it is good to give him his due. For a long time, it was believed that my first Ancestor, Daniel LeBlanc, came from a family of nobility in France. There was no connection whatsoever. Stephen White has not been able to find a link from him to such a family. Moreover, when one thinks about it, why would someone from a family of nobility - in other words a family that was very comfortable in French society leave France to become a farmer in the 1600s? That was highly unlikely. The many parish registers, census records, land grants, and other documents available to him, attest to the work of Stephen White. It is fitting when he is recognized for the true and great contribution he has made for whose benefit but our own? People should also be made aware that he receives **no royalties** whatsoever for the "Dictionnaire" published in 1999. The work belongs to the Moncton University his employer. When all is said and done, Stephen White's work has made our research so much easier than it was and the next volumes will make it easier still. Stephen White will not receive royalties for any future volumes that will be published either. Now thse will contain where our Ancestors were exiled and/or imprisoned [all were not exiled and many were imprisoned], who was born, who married, who died and where they went post-deportation. Let us not kid ourselves because this is no easy task. One does not take the work of another without wondering if it is accurate and where it came from. That is why Stephen White has listed all of his sources in the Dictionnaire so that one may go back and verify all of the information available if one wanted to. So Ed, my hat is off to you for recognizing the great work of who I consider to be a great man at this time in our Acadian history. Thank you! Lucie Lucie LeBlanc Consentino Acadian & French Canadian Ancestral Home http://acadian-home.org http://www.promises.acadian-home.org/frames.html CMA 2004 - www.cma2004.com Grand-Pré - www.grand-pre.com/ www.umoncton.ca/etudeacadiennes/centre/cea.html -----Original Message----- From: Edmond Barrieau [mailto:edlor13@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:30 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] COMEAU Family Good morning: About the Comeau Family, we have a typical piece of Acadian wishful thinking. I have been assembling both Acadian and French-Canadian Genealogy for almost 30 years. My own ancestry is 97% Acadian, 3% French-Canadian. Until 2 years ago,I lived close to excellent French-Canadian data sources. Almost invariably, such sources will supply the points of origin in France, including names of parents, and the actual parish. Acadian genealogy, on the other hand, was based largely on data gotten from census reports. Such data lent itself to error. Bona Arsenault, who was NOT a genealogist, used methods that often produced erroneous conclusions as to who married whom. I had the good fortune of consulting with Steve White many times, several times in his office. Frequently, I have read letters asking why we hold Steve up as a God. Simply, Steve and his operation in Moncton are by far the most thorough, best organized Genealogical organization doing any sort of French Genealogy. For many years, there have been letters tying Commeau to deCommeau, LeBlanc to French royalty,parents of JEAN BLANCHARD, and of FRANCOIS GUERIN,etc.,etc. It has been several years since these errors have been corrected by Steve White. If one has a significant amount of Acadian ancestry, I would urge the purchase of the Steve White "DICTIONNAIRES". However, I must caution that, generally, errors (often in Arsenault) that were made on Genealogy after 1714 will not show up in these books.There then are two alternatives, 1)to go to CENTRE d'ETUDE ACADIENNES, in Moncton, or 2) to wait for the next set of books, later this year. ACADIAN genealogy is NOT easy !! For those who do not have a lot of Acadian, write in with your problems, and hope that your answers have up-to-date and correct answers. As for spellings of names, my own name has 30+ spellings. The first BARRIEAU(BARILLOT) could not write,so the first census taker use a spelling with which he was familiar. Very probably, the same thing occurred with COMEAU.What is correct? WE DO NOT KNOW !! Hope this letter throws a little light !! ED BARRIEAU Albuquerque, NM 87114 edlor13@comcast.net ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/ACADIAN-CAJUN.html This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. 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Good morning Stanley: Thanks for your letter. I am aware that there were other important sources of data than census reports. However, the censuses were the main sources of data about the formation of families. As you are aware, the parochial registers were few. It then made it necessary to take an educated guess as to which person married which. Of course, Placide Gaudet,and many others contributed much. I am still convinced that it was the crew at Centre d'Etude Acadiennes who most often sifted through such collections as Placide and were able to arrive at what was true and what was not. I was fortunate in having my "trees" reviewed ,in person,by Steve White and by Marcel Barrieau.As a result, the data that I had gotten out of my Arsenault was corrected when necessary. I don't think I am unduly defensive of Steve.I was doing Acadian and French-Canadian genealogy at a time when there were still few Franco Genealogists. If one was Acadian, as I am, one would buy the Arsenault set, then, go to work. Fortunately, I early on established a contact with Steve White and others at the Centre. Long afterward, I suffered the letters to Janet Jehn that repeated the errors that had been gotten from Arsenault. Now that the Computer is here, we read a repetition of errors from the same sources. Those who repeat these errors are unaware that the only source of relatively accurate Acadian data is SAW. Just a few weeks ago, I answered a letter asking why the adulation of Steve. I tried to give a brief history of Acadian and French-Canadian genealogies and the differences, particularly the evolution of Acadian. It is the establishment and growth of the Centre d'Etude Acadiennes and the arrival of Steve that has given us a place that provides a "scientific",methodical and thorough place that IS the ultimate source that we can look to. Those who don't realize that SAW IS the uniquely competent "Franco" genealogical organization are cheating themselves. I waited about 15 years for the DICTIONNAIRES, asking Steve when the books would come out. He always begged off, saying that they were not complete or accurate. It is regrettable that the next 2 books will only fill a portion of the need ! There are still many errors to be corrected. I am fortunate that Steve corrected mine. I am aware that there was a LeBlanc king. Also, there was a deCommeaux, but not part of the Acadian COMEAU.It is always regrettable that wishful thinking has us seeking nobility and royalty where they are NOT.I'm sure you agree that the truth is preferable to a pipe-dream.In my BARRIEAU History,I explain that Coats of Arms are almost non-existent among Acadians. Another error- the many families from Martaize--derived from Genevieve Massignon. For those on a tight budget and for those who do not have large Acadian lines, one would wish they could get the DICTIONNAIRES data. I imagine you will attend the LeBlanc reunion.I'll attend the BARRIEAU one,starting 8/13 (which is my 80th birthday). If you will, would you tell me about your line, also, where you live,etc. My very best,Stanley, ED(mond) BARRIEAU 10208 Calle Chulita NW, Albuquerque,NM 87114-5359 edlor13@comcast.net 1-505-792-9939 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cajun" <cajun@thecajuns.com> To: <ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 9:25 PM Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] COMEAU Family > Ed, > > On this and a couple of previous posts, you seem to be defending SAW > against unseen critics. Acadian genealogy is based upon a lot more than > just the census records as documented by the lengthy list of references > in Le Dictionnaire. > > It isn't necessary to downplay the work of those who preceded SAW. SAW > graciously acknowledges the work of many others who have contributed and > are contributing to Acadian genealogy. > > For the record, the Le Blanc line in France was connected to Royalty > [not the Acadian Le Blanc line]. > > Stanley LeBlanc > www.thecajuns.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Edmond Barrieau [mailto:edlor13@comcast.net] > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:30 PM > To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] COMEAU Family > > > Good morning: > About the Comeau Family, we have a typical piece of Acadian wishful > thinking. I have been assembling both Acadian and French-Canadian > Genealogy for almost 30 years. My own ancestry is 97% Acadian, 3% > French-Canadian. Until 2 years ago,I lived close to excellent > French-Canadian data sources. Almost invariably, such sources will > supply the points of origin in France, including names of parents, and > the actual parish. > > Acadian genealogy, on the other hand, was based largely on data gotten > from census reports. Such data lent itself to error. Bona Arsenault, who > was NOT a genealogist, used methods that often produced erroneous > conclusions as to who married whom. > I had the good fortune of consulting with Steve White many times, > several times in his office. Frequently, I have read letters asking why > we hold Steve up as a God. Simply, Steve and his operation in Moncton > are by far the most thorough, best organized Genealogical organization > doing any sort of French Genealogy. For many years, there have been > letters tying Commeau to deCommeau, LeBlanc to French royalty,parents of > JEAN BLANCHARD, and of FRANCOIS GUERIN,etc.,etc. > It has been several years since these errors have been corrected by > Steve White. If one has a significant amount of Acadian ancestry, I > would urge the purchase of the Steve White "DICTIONNAIRES". However, I > must caution that, generally, errors (often in Arsenault) that were made > on Genealogy > > after 1714 will not show up in these books.There then are two > alternatives, 1)to go to CENTRE d'ETUDE ACADIENNES, in Moncton, or 2) > to wait for the next set of books, later this year. ACADIAN genealogy is > NOT easy !! For those who do not have a lot of Acadian, write in with > your problems, and hope that your answers have up-to-date and correct > answers. As for spellings of names, my own name has 30+ spellings. The > first BARRIEAU(BARILLOT) could not write,so the first census taker use > a spelling with which he was familiar. Very probably, the same thing > occurred with COMEAU.What is correct? WE DO NOT KNOW !! Hope this letter > throws a little light !! > > ED BARRIEAU Albuquerque, NM 87114 > > edlor13@comcast.net > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/ACADIAN-CAJUN.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/ACADIAN-CAJUN.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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