Hi, It seems I have Sophronia Bello, Donato Bello & Susanne Moreau born May 16, 1784 marrying Charles Sonnier in 1804. I have no more infor on Charles. Do we know where he fits in with our Sonnier's in this topic.? Thanks, Marsha ----- Original Message ----- From: <acadian-cajun-request@rootsweb.com> To: <acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:00 AM Subject: ACADIAN-CAJUN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 158 > > > ******************************* > Plain digests are sent to users with all posts listed in one long email. > For most subscribers, MIME digests will appear with all posts as > individual attachments. The default digest delivery is Plain. If you want > your digest in MIME, please write me directly at > Acadian-Cajun-admin@rootsweb.com > **************************** > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Sylvain Sonnier III might have been Sylvain, fils > (Stanley LeBlanc) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:18:48 -0500 > From: "Stanley LeBlanc" <cajun@thecajuns.com> > Subject: Re: [Acadian-Cajun] Sylvain Sonnier III might have been > Sylvain, fils > To: "'ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb. Com'" <ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002b01c7ea79$cf3f8f20$0201a8c0@Stan2> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > To add to the saga, Sylvain III also had a son named Sylvain. So Sylvain > III > is shown as Slvain, pere and Sylvain IV is shown as fils. > > The French didn't use the Roman Numeral designation so it is sometimes > difficult to track persons who marry women with similar names. In addition > to Josephine Bello's birthdate being confused with her mother Judith > Bello's > date, she is shown as Judith on some records. I'm working on sorting out > all the children. > > Stanley LeBlanc > http://www.thecajuns.com > > _____ > > From: Roger Rozendal [mailto:rogroz@swbell.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:23 PM > To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb. Com > Cc: Stanley LeBlanc > Subject: [Acadian-Cajun] Sylvain Sonnier III might have been Sylvain, fils > > > > > On Aug 27, 2007, at 9:31 PM, Stanley LeBlanc wrote: > > > I just noticed that one record refers to Sylvain Sonnier II as Pere so > Sylvain Sonnier, fils who had the children with Josephine Bello could have > been Sylvain III. He was born abt 1794 and Josephine was born in 1797. > Melite was married in 1826 so she would have been been born about 1812. > Sylvain III would have been 18 and Josephine 15. Since Josephine was the > step-sister of Sylvain III, they might not have been allowed to marry. > > This scenario makes more sense since many persons were married after > having > had several children. Also, the succession for Sylvain II doesn't mention > the children shown for Sylvain and Josephine. > > Stanley LeBlanc > http://www.thecajuns.com > > > > Further to what Stanley wrote: > > MULTIPLE SYLVAIN SONNIERS > > In the early years of the Acadians in Louisiana, there were a number of > Sylvain Sonniers which has caused some confusion. Using church records and > census data, I have come up with the following relationships and would > appreciate any additions or corrections to the material. > > The first Sylvain Sonnier (Saulnier in Acadia and in early Louisiana) came > to Louisiana probably arriving in May 1765 and settling in Opelousas. He > was > listed as a bachelor in the 4 April 1766 Opelousas census. Sylvain I > (Etienne/Jeanne Comeau) was born ca. 1737 (census data) and was buried 25 > January 1801 in Opelousas (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-B p. 663). He married > Madeleine Bourg (Charles/Anne Boudrot) between 4 April 1766 census and1768 > because in the 1771 Opelousas census, they are listed with a daughter age > 3 > (Church records of this period have been lost). Madeleine Bourg was born 1 > April 1744 in Tracadie, Ile St. Jean. She died 30 May 1814 (Hebert SWLA > Records v. 2-A p. 122). > > They had 10 children, one of whom was Sylvain II. > > Silvain (SONNIER) (Silvain & Magdelene Bourque) bn. 6 Feb. 1771 (PCP-2, > part > 2, 106a) (DOBR Records v. 2 p. 679) > > Sylvain II (Sylvain I/Madeleine Bourg) died 28 September 1829 (Hebert SWLA > Records v. 2-C p. 708). Previously, he had filed a Succession (will) dated > October 1821 listing his four sons by his first marriage (Hebert SWLA > Records v. 2-B p. 861). This sometime causes confusion about his death > date. > Sylvain II appears in the 1810 and 1820 census. > > Sylvain II married first on 19 May 1789 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. > 723) > Emilie (Humilde) Comeaux (Charles/Anastasie Savoie). Emilie was born ca. > 1773 (census data) and was buried 20 February 1801 (Hebert SWLA Records v. > 1-B p. 188). They had at least 4 (maybe 5) children including: > > SONNIER, Silvain (Silvain el hijo & Emilie Comeaux) b. 1 April 1789, bt. > Thursday, 25 Dec. 1794 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A, p. 723) > > However, also listed is: > > SONNIER, Silvain (Silvain Sogne el hijo) bur. Saturday, 2 Jan. 1796 > (Hebert > SWLA Records v. 1-A, p. 723) > > Since there are numerous later church records for a Sylvain Sonnier, son > of > Sylvain & Emilie Comeaux and a Sylvain is listed in the Succession dated > October 1821, maybe, as often was the custom when a child died, the next > child born was given the same name (Sylvain IIIa was buried 2 Jan. 1796, > Sylvain IIIb may have been born ca. 1798.) > > Before going on with Sylvain IIIb (Sylvain II/Emilie Comeaux), it is > necessary to look at the second marriage of Sylvain II. Emilie Comeaux was > buried 20 February 1801 and on 10 December 1802, Sylvain II married Judith > Bello (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-B, p. 663). Judith Bello (Donat/Suzanne > Moreau) was born 29 January 1777 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 45) and > was > buried 4 February 1817 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 49). Prior to her > marriage to Sylvain, it would appear Judith had an illegitimate child: > > BELLO, Josephine (Judith Bello) b. 29 January 1777 (sic- birth date of > mother), bt. Tuesday, 10 Sep. 1799 Spons: Joseph Moreau, her uncle & > Suzanne > Moreau, her maternal grandmother. (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 45). The > 1777 birth date is in error as it clearly states Suzanne Moreau, mother of > Judith Bello is the grandmother of Josephine. This error has caused some > researchers to believe Judith and Josephine are the same person. Other > sources indicate the father of Josephine may have been Joseph Poire (see > later). > > Now back to the marriage of Sylvain II and Judith Bello. In Hebert SWLA > Records v. 1-B p. 663 is found: > > SONNIER, Silvain- a widower of this post (dec. Silvain & Magdeleine Bourg) > m. 10 Dec. 1802 Judith Bello- also single, native and living in this post > (Donato & Susanne Moreau), Declare a son of 3 months of age [Donat bpt. 20 > Feb. 1808 at age 5 yrs. (Hebert SWLA Records v.1-B p. 661)]. > > It would seem Judith was unmarried and had another child out of wedlock. > Remember she also had a daughter Josephine (age 3) prior to this wedding. > > After Sylvain II married Judith Bello, Sylvain IIIb and Josephine Bello > lived in the same household. > > Now on to Sylvain IIIb. > > He may have been born ca. 1798. His Succession was dated October 1851. > There > are three interesting entries in the church records concerning Sylvain > IIIb > and Josephine Bello (who grew up in the same household): > > BELLO, Emilie (Josephine & from what they told me, Sylvain Saunier fils > from > here) b. in January 1814, bt. 18 June 1817 Pats: Sylvain Saunier & Emilie > Comeau from here; Mats: Donato Bello from Italy & Suzanne Moro from Mobile > (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 48). > > BELLO, Judic (Josephine Bello & from what they have told me, Sylvain > Saunier > fils from here) b. in Jan, 1814, bt. 18 June 1817 Pats: Sylvain Saunier & > Emilie Comau from here; Mats: Donato Bello from Italy and Suzanne Moro > (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 49). > > Shortly after the 18 June 1817 baptisms of Emilie and Judic, Silvain III > and > Josephine Bello must have married because their next child appears in the > church records as: > > SONNIER, Sylvain (Sylvain fils & Josephine Poire from here) b. 11 Feb. > 1818, > bt. 7 Jul 1818. Pats: Sylvain Saunier & Emile Comau from here Mats: Joseph > Poire & Judic Bello from here (Herbert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 878). This > is > the source for Joseph Poire being the father of Josephine. > > Sylvain IIIb and Josephine Bello had 6 children including: > > Sylvain IV, b. 11 February 1818 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 878) > married > first 10 January 1837 (Opel. Ch.: v. 2, p. 104) Marie-Louise Sonnier > (Louis/Denise Carrierre) born 3 November 1819 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-B > p. > 860). No further research on this Sylvain has been done. > > There were two other Sylvains in early Louisiana of which I am aware. > > Charles Sonnier (Sylvain I/Madeleine Bourg) bpt. 26 Aug. 1781 at 4 ? > months > (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 719) married ca. 1804 Sophie Bello > (Donat/Suzanne Moreau) b. 16 May 1784 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 45). > (Sophie was a sister of Judith Bello). They had at least 4 children > including: > > SONNIER, Silvain (Charles Soigne & Sophie Bello) b. 30 Dec. 1807, bt. 15 > July 1819 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-B p. 663) > > He would be a nephew of Sylvain II and a cousin of Sylvain IIIb. > > Louis Sonnier (Sylvain II/Emilie Comeaux) b. 3 August 1797 (Hebert SWLA > Records v. 1-A p. 721) married 20 February 1816 (Hebert SWLA Records v. > 2-A > p. 876) Denise Carrierre (Pierre & Marie-Louise Vivarene). They had at > least > 8 children including: > > SONNIER, Sylven (Louis Sogne & Denise Carrierre) b. 12 Feb. 1822, bt. 12 > March 1822 Pats: Sylven Soigne & Emile Comeau Mats: Pierre Carriere & > Marie-Louise Vivaret. (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-B p. 861). > > He would be a nephew of Sylvain IIIb. > > Hope this helps in keeping the Sylvain Sonniers and their relationships > with > the Bellos straight. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ACADIAN-CAJUN list administrator, send an email to > ACADIAN-CAJUN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ACADIAN-CAJUN mailing list, send an email to > ACADIAN-CAJUN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ACADIAN-CAJUN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ACADIAN-CAJUN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 158 > ********************************************* >

Marsha, Charles Sonnier who married Sophie Bello was the son of Sylvain Sonnier (I) and Madeleine Bourg. SONNIER, Charles (Silvain & Magdeleine Bourg) bt. 26 Aug. 1781 at age 4 1/2 mths. (Opel. Ch.: v. 1-A, p. 25) [Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A, p. 719]. Roger A. Rozendal rogroz@swbell.net On Aug 31, 2007, at 4:56 PM, marsha wrote: > Hi, > > It seems I have Sophronia Bello, Donato Bello & Susanne > Moreau > born May 16, 1784 marrying Charles Sonnier in 1804. > > I have no more infor on Charles. Do we know where he fits > in with > our Sonnier's in this topic.? > > Thanks, Marsha >