Don and List: I have some responses to your questions: <How do you account for the statement: "LANDRY Firmin, Elizabeth his wife" Don Landry> (1) I was relying on Gregory A. Wood's newer (1995) publication called A GUIDE TO THE ACADIANS IN MARYLAND IN THE EIGHTEENTH AND NINETEENTH CENTURIES; pp. 140-141. There, he does not put "his wife" after Elizabeth's name, nor does he treat her as he does the married women in his other household entries, where in most, he gives the maiden name of the wife, with the indicator "nee" for "born as." (2) I would like to see the original document of this Maryland census. I understand it was included in a letter to the Duke of Nivernois, dated July 7, 1763, "Au Duc de Nivernois," in AFFAIRES ETRANGERES, CORRESPONDANCE POLITIQUE, ANGLETERRE; vol. 450 [CDL], pp. [ff.] 438-446. Can someone on the list give me directions for obtaining a good copy of the original? Is it on microfilm, can it be ordered? (3) <Saturin is not listed, although he would be 19 to 21 years old at this time. Maybe as you suggested, he died young> Again relying on Gregory A. Wood, A GUIDE TO THE ACADIANS IN MARYLAND IN THE EIGHTEENTH AND NINETEENTH CENTURIES; 1755-1899; Baltimore, Gateway Press, 1995; p. 140. Saturin LANDRY, on 14 Jan 1766, was with Firmin LANDRY as witness to the Maryland marriage of Amant BABIN & Anastasie LANDRY (Reference: Mosley). On 29 Apr 1773 at Pointe Coupee, LA he was most probably the Saturin who was witness to the baptism of Hubert LANDRY, son of Firmin [his father] & [2nd wife] Theotiste TIBAUDOT (PCP-2, part 2, 150). So Saturnin? probably died after Apr 1773, but possibly before the militia lists were made in 1774 and 1777. I find no record of a marriage or children for him. Karen Theriot Reader KATheriot@aol.com

I'm open to the possibility that Elisabeth shown on the 1763 census was a sister and that Francoise died before 1763 because Marie-Madeleine, the youngest child of Firmin and Francoise was born in 1759 and most Acadians woulf have had 1-2 more by 1763. The researchers who prepared the Acadian Memorial data base could have assumed that Elisabeth was Elisabeth-Francoise. All the actual records in SWLR show Francoise rather than Elisabeth-Francoise or Elisabeth. More research! Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: KATheriot@aol.com [mailto:KATheriot@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 5:20 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Re: More Landrys? Don and List: I have some responses to your questions: <How do you account for the statement: "LANDRY Firmin, Elizabeth his wife" Don Landry> (1) I was relying on Gregory A. Wood's newer (1995) publication called A GUIDE TO THE ACADIANS IN MARYLAND IN THE EIGHTEENTH AND NINETEENTH CENTURIES; pp. 140-141. There, he does not put "his wife" after Elizabeth's name, nor does he treat her as he does the married women in his other household entries, where in most, he gives the maiden name of the wife, with the indicator "nee" for "born as." (2) I would like to see the original document of this Maryland census. I understand it was included in a letter to the Duke of Nivernois, dated July 7, 1763, "Au Duc de Nivernois," in AFFAIRES ETRANGERES, CORRESPONDANCE POLITIQUE, ANGLETERRE; vol. 450 [CDL], pp. [ff.] 438-446. Can someone on the list give me directions for obtaining a good copy of the original? Is it on microfilm, can it be ordered? (3) <Saturin is not listed, although he would be 19 to 21 years old at this time. Maybe as you suggested, he died young> Again relying on Gregory A. Wood, A GUIDE TO THE ACADIANS IN MARYLAND IN THE EIGHTEENTH AND NINETEENTH CENTURIES; 1755-1899; Baltimore, Gateway Press, 1995; p. 140. Saturin LANDRY, on 14 Jan 1766, was with Firmin LANDRY as witness to the Maryland marriage of Amant BABIN & Anastasie LANDRY (Reference: Mosley). On 29 Apr 1773 at Pointe Coupee, LA he was most probably the Saturin who was witness to the baptism of Hubert LANDRY, son of Firmin [his father] & [2nd wife] Theotiste TIBAUDOT (PCP-2, part 2, 150). So Saturnin? probably died after Apr 1773, but possibly before the militia lists were made in 1774 and 1777. I find no record of a marriage or children for him. Karen Theriot Reader KATheriot@aol.com ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.acadian -cajun This is a link to the Acadian-Cajun Message Board at RootsWeb. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

> (3) <Saturin is not listed, although he would be 19 to 21 years old at this > time. Maybe as you suggested, he died young> > Again relying on Gregory A. Wood, A GUIDE TO THE ACADIANS IN MARYLAND IN > THE EIGHTEENTH AND NINETEENTH CENTURIES; 1755-1899; Baltimore, Gateway Press, > 1995; p. 140. Saturin LANDRY, on 14 Jan 1766, was with Firmin LANDRY as > witness > to the Maryland marriage of Amant BABIN & Anastasie LANDRY (Reference: > Mosley). On 29 Apr 1773 at Pointe Coupee, LA he was most probably the Saturin > who > was witness to the baptism of Hubert LANDRY, son of Firmin [his father] & [2nd > wife] Theotiste TIBAUDOT (PCP-2, part 2, 150). > So Saturnin? probably died after Apr 1773, but possibly before the militia > lists were made in 1774 and 1777. I find no record of a marriage or children > for him. > > Karen Theriot Reader > KATheriot@aol.com In "General Census of the Posts of Attakapas and Oppeloussas of 4 May 1777" by Winston de Ville is found under Family 57 the following: Firmin Landry, 50. Theotette Thibodaut, wife, 33. Garcons: Joseph, 25; Scaturnin, 22; Hubert, 5. Filles: Barbe Gaudin, 18; Francoise, 7; Helene, 3; Rosalie, 1; Marie-Louise Thibodaut, orphan, 14. This indicates Saturnin was alive on 4 May 1777. He is listed on the 10 May 1777 Militia Role as "Sinturnin Landry". However, he does not appear on the 1780 Militia Roster or in the April 1781 census. Firmin is listed in the 1781 census of Attakapas with 8 individuals in his family. Possibly Saturnin could be one of these if he was still single? Barbe Gaudin, 18, was the daughter of Theotiste Thibodeau and her first husband, Bonaventure Gaudin. Marie-Louise Thibodeau, orphan, 14, was the daughter of the deceased Charles Thibodeau and the deceased Brigitte Breau, and the sister of Theotiste Thibodeau. Roger A. Rozendal rogroz@swbell.net

-- > I have some responses to your questions: > <How do you account for the statement: "LANDRY Firmin, Elizabeth his wife" > Don Landry> > > (1) I was relying on Gregory A. Wood's newer (1995) publication called A > GUIDE TO THE ACADIANS IN MARYLAND IN THE EIGHTEENTH AND NINETEENTH CENTURIES; > pp. > 140-141. There, he does not put "his wife" after Elizabeth's name, nor does he > treat her as he does the married women in his other household entries, where > in most, he gives the maiden name of the wife, with the indicator "nee" for > "born as." > > (2) I would like to see the original document of this Maryland census. I > understand it was included in a letter to the Duke of Nivernois, dated July 7, > 1763, "Au Duc de Nivernois," in AFFAIRES ETRANGERES, CORRESPONDANCE POLITIQUE, > ANGLETERRE; vol. 450 [CDL], pp. [ff.] 438-446. > Can someone on the list give me directions for obtaining a good copy of > the original? Is it on microfilm, can it be ordered? Janet Jehn in "Acadian Exiles in the Colonies" has a copy from the microfilm of the original records of the Maryland census dated 7 Juillet 1763. On page 143 is found: Firmin Landry, Elizabeth son espouse, Joseph et Saturin Landry, Eleine et Magd.ne Landry.......5 Roger A. Rozendal rogroz@swbell.net