Dear List, Three thoughts on the family of Firmin LANDRY. (1) The record of Firmin's burial at St. Martinville gives his age as 76 [not 67], in the Spanish language of the original: "LANDRY, Firmin - of Acadia (Alexandre & ---) m. to Theotiste THIBAUDAU He died suddenly; bur. 4 Feb. 1801 at age "sesenta y dies y seis anos" [literally 60 and 16 years] 76 years. Fr. Michel Bernard BARRIERE (SM Ch.: v.4, #231)" This is cut and pasted from the record on Donald J. Hebert's CD version of THE SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA RECORDS. I also found it exactly the same in his revised vol. 1-B of that series, p. 428. So, if he was buried in early February 1801 at age 76, he would have been born around 1724, or early in 1725. (2) If Firmin LANDRY and the four children he had with first wife Francoise THIBODEAU are listed on the 7 Jul 1763 census at Oxford, MD, why must everyone assume that the woman listed as Elizabeth is his wife? Could it not be his sister Elisabeth LANDRY, who would have been around age 25, and is listed nowhere else I see in Maryland that year. She does appear in 1769 in Louisiana with another sister Marie Josephe LANDRY. If Firmin's wife had died in Maryland before the census, leaving him with four young children (and possibly a baby named Barbe who appears in 1769 in Attakapas with Firmin's family), would it not be logical for his never-married younger sister Elisabeth to have moved in to help? (3) I am also intrigued by the girl (Anne-)Barbe, who appears from 1770 on in the household of Ursule LANDRY (widow of Jean BABIN), the older sister of Firmin. The girl was NOT on the census with this family in 1769. On 28 Oct 1778 she married Joseph MELANSON (dit Vieux), son of Honore & Marie BRAUD, in Donaldsonville, Ascension parish, LA (ASC-1, 135). Found in Baton Rouge Diocese, CATHOLIC CHURCH RECORDS, vol. 2, pp. 42 & 535. Her name on the marriage record is listed as Anna Barbara BABEIN, daughter of Jean & Ursule LANDRY. Could it be she was adopted, however? One witness to the marriage was "Joseph BABEIN" (probably the oldest son of Jean BABIN & Ursule LANDRY); another witness was Maturin (Saturnin?) LANDRY (possibly the son of Firmin LANDRY & Francoise THIBODEAU). Some records on the SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA RECORDS CD seems to bear this theory out, where she is listed again as a LANDRY: On the birth of her sixth child: "MELANCON, Louis (Joseph & Barbara LANDRY) b. 7 Jan. 1789, bt. 7 June 1790 Spons: Joseph MINOL & Marie DORET. ...Fr. de DEVA (SM Ch.: v.4, #422)" And a death/burial record: " LANDRY, Barbe - wid. of Joseph MELANCON; died 5 Aug. 1817 at age about 66 years at her home at l'ance; buried 6 Aug. 1817 in the parish cemetery. Fr. Gabriel ISABEY (SM Ch.: v.4, #1120)" Comments are welcome. Karen Theriot Reader KATheriot@aol.com
Firmin had 3 children with his first wife, Elisabeth-Francoise Thibodeaux: Joseph, Helene and Marie-Madeleine. Marie-Madeleine married Rene Broussard 6/12/1775 and died abt. 1778. Rene Broussard then married Anne-Barbe Gaudin [Godin], the daughter of Bonadventure Gaudin and Theotiste Thibodeaux and the step-daughter of Firmin Landry. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: KATheriot@aol.com [mailto:KATheriot@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 11:11 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Re: More Landrys? Dear List, Three thoughts on the family of Firmin LANDRY. (1) The record of Firmin's burial at St. Martinville gives his age as 76 [not 67], in the Spanish language of the original: "LANDRY, Firmin - of Acadia (Alexandre & ---) m. to Theotiste THIBAUDAU He died suddenly; bur. 4 Feb. 1801 at age "sesenta y dies y seis anos" [literally 60 and 16 years] 76 years. Fr. Michel Bernard BARRIERE (SM Ch.: v.4, #231)" This is cut and pasted from the record on Donald J. Hebert's CD version of THE SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA RECORDS. I also found it exactly the same in his revised vol. 1-B of that series, p. 428. So, if he was buried in early February 1801 at age 76, he would have been born around 1724, or early in 1725. (2) If Firmin LANDRY and the four children he had with first wife Francoise THIBODEAU are listed on the 7 Jul 1763 census at Oxford, MD, why must everyone assume that the woman listed as Elizabeth is his wife? Could it not be his sister Elisabeth LANDRY, who would have been around age 25, and is listed nowhere else I see in Maryland that year. She does appear in 1769 in Louisiana with another sister Marie Josephe LANDRY. If Firmin's wife had died in Maryland before the census, leaving him with four young children (and possibly a baby named Barbe who appears in 1769 in Attakapas with Firmin's family), would it not be logical for his never-married younger sister Elisabeth to have moved in to help? (3) I am also intrigued by the girl (Anne-)Barbe, who appears from 1770 on in the household of Ursule LANDRY (widow of Jean BABIN), the older sister of Firmin. The girl was NOT on the census with this family in 1769. On 28 Oct 1778 she married Joseph MELANSON (dit Vieux), son of Honore & Marie BRAUD, in Donaldsonville, Ascension parish, LA (ASC-1, 135). Found in Baton Rouge Diocese, CATHOLIC CHURCH RECORDS, vol. 2, pp. 42 & 535. Her name on the marriage record is listed as Anna Barbara BABEIN, daughter of Jean & Ursule LANDRY. Could it be she was adopted, however? One witness to the marriage was "Joseph BABEIN" (probably the oldest son of Jean BABIN & Ursule LANDRY); another witness was Maturin (Saturnin?) LANDRY (possibly the son of Firmin LANDRY & Francoise THIBODEAU). Some records on the SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA RECORDS CD seems to bear this theory out, where she is listed again as a LANDRY: On the birth of her sixth child: "MELANCON, Louis (Joseph & Barbara LANDRY) b. 7 Jan. 1789, bt. 7 June 1790 Spons: Joseph MINOL & Marie DORET. ...Fr. de DEVA (SM Ch.: v.4, #422)" And a death/burial record: " LANDRY, Barbe - wid. of Joseph MELANCON; died 5 Aug. 1817 at age about 66 years at her home at l'ance; buried 6 Aug. 1817 in the parish cemetery. Fr. Gabriel ISABEY (SM Ch.: v.4, #1120)" Comments are welcome. Karen Theriot Reader KATheriot@aol.com ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237