Weren't the NY Acadians settled with/near the Germans (non-French Europeans)? There really were no hard boundries of Verret, Cantrelle, German Coast was there? We know that they approximately ended near Verret's & Cantrelle's other son-in-law homes. but didn't each census have different boundries? Commandant (Pierre) Nicholas Verret was my 5th ggfather so anyting I can do to help please ask. Paul Le B [email protected] wrote: >The New York group arrived in 1764 but didn't go to Attakapas. Some men of >the 1764 group showed up on Verret's Company in April 1766, but aren't on >the 1766 or 1769 census of The Acadian Coast. They show up on the 1777 >census. Roger Rozendal [with help from Elton Oubre] has been trying to find >out more about Verret's Company and the 1766 and 1769 census. > >Stanley LeBlanc >http://www.thecajuns.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:35 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > >Review of French & Indian War show >http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/ourviews/2215787.html > >letter to the editor >http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/letters/2250541.html > >enjoy > >Weren't the 20 from NY? here before Broussard? > >Paul Le B >l'Ascension LA > > >==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== >The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to >the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the >person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > >

Paul, The Germans were definitely non-French! They also played a major role in Colonial Louisiana. The large influx of settlers between 1718-1721 came from Hainaut [now part of Belgium], Alsace-Lorriane, Switzerland and the German States [The Nation State of Germany didn't exist until 1871]. The original intent was to send the German settlers to the Arkansas Post, but the Company of the West Indies went bust and Louisiana became a Crown Colony in 1721. Thus, the First and second German Coast has existed since 1718 and 1721. The French-Creoles were at Pointe Coupee. Elton Oubre spent 25 years researching the issue that you mention. It is all explained in his book Vacherie. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 Weren't the NY Acadians settled with/near the Germans (non-French Europeans)? There really were no hard boundries of Verret, Cantrelle, German Coast was there? We know that they approximately ended near Verret's & Cantrelle's other son-in-law homes. but didn't each census have different boundries? Commandant (Pierre) Nicholas Verret was my 5th ggfather so anyting I can do to help please ask. Paul Le B [email protected] wrote: >The New York group arrived in 1764 but didn't go to Attakapas. Some men of >the 1764 group showed up on Verret's Company in April 1766, but aren't on >the 1766 or 1769 census of The Acadian Coast. They show up on the 1777 >census. Roger Rozendal [with help from Elton Oubre] has been trying to find >out more about Verret's Company and the 1766 and 1769 census. > >Stanley LeBlanc >http://www.thecajuns.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:35 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > >Review of French & Indian War show >http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/ourviews/2215787.html > >letter to the editor >http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/letters/2250541.html > >enjoy > >Weren't the 20 from NY? here before Broussard? > >Paul Le B >l'Ascension LA > > >==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== >The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to >the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the >person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== To verify the RootsWeb Mailing Lists to which you are currently subscribed, check Password Central: http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ Mark the box to have a list of your subscribed lists e-mailed to you. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Extensive research done by Elton Oubre and additional work I have done indicates the boundaries of the various censuses along the Mississippi River were consistent usually just indicating new settlers going into previously unsettled areas. The censuses had distinct boundaries and the census takers seem to have been very meticulous. My interpretation of the various census data along the Mississippi to date is as follows (with a lot of help from Elton Oubre). CABAANOCE CENSUS 9 APRIL 1766 (JUDICE'S COMPANY) Right (West) Bank Starts at habitacion of Jacques Cantrelle (near present day St. James Railway Station, St. James Parish) and goes upriver on the right bank ending at Bayou Lafourche near present day Donaldsonville, Ascension Parish. Left (East) Bank Starts at habitacion of Joseph Hebert across river from Jacques Cantrelle and goes upriver on left bank and ends up still in present day St. James Parish near the Ascension Parish line. ACADIAN COAST CENSUS SEPTEMBER 14, 1769 Right (West) Bank Starts at habitation of Jacques Cantrelle (same as 1766 census) and goes upriver on the right bank to the end of the 1766 census and then lists 28 new families upriver (ending up in present day Ascension Parish). Left (East) Bank Starts at habitacion of Joseph Hebert across river from Jacques Cantrelle (same as 1766 census) and goes upriver on left bank to the end of the 1766 census and then lists 36 new families upriver that went settled farther on into present day Ascension Parish. ASCENSION PARISH CENSUS APRIL 23, 1770 Right (West) Bank Starts at Ascension Parish line and goes upriver listing 53 families that were in the 1769 Acadian Coast census plus 1 new family upriver. Left (East) Bank Starts at Ascension Parish line and goes upriver on the left bank listing 23 families that were in the 1769 Acadian Coast census plus 8 new families upriver. VERRET'S COMPANY CENSUS APRIL 8, 1766 Right (West) Bank Starts at habitation of Nicholas Verret (just downriver from Jacques Cantrelle) and goes downriver. Families #2-10 are essentially the 1764 Acadian arrivals (present day Lagan) and 13 additional families that arrived later are listed downriver (to present day Vacherie). Left (East) Bank Starts across river from Verret's habitacion and goes down river to Pierre Charpentier and Jaquelin cow ranch, residents of Second German Coast (across from present day Vacherie?). ST. JAMES PARISH CENSUS 1769 or 1771 No census for 1769 for the area of Verret's Company has been found to date, but there may be one for 1771 (thanks Stanley for the lead) which I am in the process of researching. ST. JAMES PARISH CENSUS JANUARY 1, 1777 This census covers the part of the 1769 Acadian Coast census that is in present day St. James, the area of Verret's Company 1766 census and the Second German Coast that is in present day St. James Parish. Right (West) Bank Starts at habitacions of Jacques Cantrelle and the widow Verret (same as 1766 and 1769 censuses) and goes upriver on the right bank to the Ascension Parish line. Left (East) Bank Starts at Ascension Parish line and goes DOWNRIVER (opposite of 1766 and 1769 censuses) to the habitacion of Antoine LaBauve (essentially where the 1769 census of Cabaanoce started and went upriver). At this point, are 3 non-Acadian families who were former residents of the Second German Coast. Here also seems to be the starting point for the left bank of Verret's Company 1766 census. It continues downriver, ending with Pierre Charpentier, the same as in the 1766 census. According to Elton Oubre, in 1777 there was only a cow ranch (Jaquelin?) and vacant space below here to the St. John the Baptiste Parish line. Right (West) Bank The census taker seems to have crossed the river and gone down to the St. John the Baptiste Parish line and started the census going upriver. The first 15 families listed are non-Acadians and were residents of the Second German Coast (some Alabamans who arrived in 1764). Then in the area of present day Vacherie are Acadians who were at the end of the Verret's Company 1766 census. The census continued upriver (opposite direction of the 1766 census) and ended up in the Lagan area, where the residences of the 1764 Arrivals were. The 1764 arrivals were settled just downriver from the habitations of Verret and Cantrelle some distance from the nearest residents of the Second German Coast (5 miles?). Later Acadian arrivals filled the space between them. The various censuses had distinct boundaries that reflected settlement patterns and political boundaries and were done in a meticulous manner. Roger A. Rozendal [email protected] On Jan 30, 2006, at 5:39 PM, Paul L Le Blanc wrote: > Weren't the NY Acadians settled with/near the Germans (non-French > Europeans)? There really were no hard boundries of Verret, > Cantrelle, German Coast was there? We know that they approximately > ended near Verret's & Cantrelle's other son-in-law homes. but > didn't each census have different boundries? > > Commandant (Pierre) Nicholas Verret was my 5th ggfather so anyting > I can do to help please ask. > > Paul Le B > > [email protected] wrote: > >> The New York group arrived in 1764 but didn't go to Attakapas. >> Some men of >> the 1764 group showed up on Verret's Company in April 1766, but >> aren't on >> the 1766 or 1769 census of The Acadian Coast. They show up on the >> 1777 >> census. Roger Rozendal [with help from Elton Oubre] has been >> trying to find >> out more about Verret's Company and the 1766 and 1769 census. >> >> Stanley LeBlanc >> http://www.thecajuns.com