I read you loud and clear Marsha :-) Nova (Bourque) Burke Ontario, Canada marsha <marshal@datastar.net> wrote: Hi All, This is only a test... Marsha Ladner ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-CAJUN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!

Hi All, This is only a test... Marsha Ladner

Hi, Thanks to all on this list that helped with my Charles Sonnier that married Sophronia Bello. I knew I had seen them posted earlier on the list....must have overlooked them..thanks again.. Sorry, Thanks again, Marsha ----- Original Message ----- From: <acadian-cajun-request@rootsweb.com> To: <acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:00 AM Subject: ACADIAN-CAJUN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 160 > > > ******************************* > Plain digests are sent to users with all posts listed in one long email. > For most subscribers, MIME digests will appear with all posts as > individual attachments. The default digest delivery is Plain. If you want > your digest in MIME, please write me directly at > Acadian-Cajun-admin@rootsweb.com > **************************** > > Today's Topics: > > 1. LeBlanc/Sanders (Gordon Bonnet) > 2. LeBlanc/Darcy (Gordon Bonnet) > 3. Re: Sonnier & family (marsha) > 4. Re: Sonnier & family (Roger Rozendal) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:31:53 -0400 > From: Gordon Bonnet <jaggy227@fltg.net> > Subject: [Acadian-Cajun] LeBlanc/Sanders > To: acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <3FF06645-F8D0-423F-901B-D28E007F5164@fltg.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Does anyone know the parents/birthdate of Clebert LeBlanc, m. ca. > 1895 probably in Iberia Parish, LA, to Irmina Sanders? > > Thanks... > > Gordon > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:34:19 -0400 > From: Gordon Bonnet <jaggy227@fltg.net> > Subject: [Acadian-Cajun] LeBlanc/Darcy > To: acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <D41C87B4-7ACE-4B20-A9A3-C4E6E4801DF5@fltg.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Does anyone know the parents of Mary LeBlanc, b. ca 1904, m. ca. 1922 > probably in Houma LA to Joseph Irvin Darcy, s/o Emile and Adele (Ayo) > Darcy? > > thanks... > > Gordon > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:56:18 -0500 > From: "marsha" <marshal@datastar.net> > Subject: Re: [Acadian-Cajun] Sonnier & family > To: <acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000e01c7ec19$c422eff0$41a2a53f@your4dacd0ea75> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi, > > It seems I have Sophronia Bello, Donato Bello & Susanne Moreau > born May 16, 1784 marrying Charles Sonnier in 1804. > > I have no more infor on Charles. Do we know where he fits in with > our Sonnier's in this topic.? > > Thanks, Marsha > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <acadian-cajun-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:00 AM > Subject: ACADIAN-CAJUN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 158 > > >> >> >> ******************************* >> Plain digests are sent to users with all posts listed in one long email. >> For most subscribers, MIME digests will appear with all posts as >> individual attachments. The default digest delivery is Plain. If you want >> your digest in MIME, please write me directly at >> Acadian-Cajun-admin@rootsweb.com >> **************************** >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Sylvain Sonnier III might have been Sylvain, fils >> (Stanley LeBlanc) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:18:48 -0500 >> From: "Stanley LeBlanc" <cajun@thecajuns.com> >> Subject: Re: [Acadian-Cajun] Sylvain Sonnier III might have been >> Sylvain, fils >> To: "'ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb. Com'" <ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <002b01c7ea79$cf3f8f20$0201a8c0@Stan2> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> To add to the saga, Sylvain III also had a son named Sylvain. So Sylvain >> III >> is shown as Slvain, pere and Sylvain IV is shown as fils. >> >> The French didn't use the Roman Numeral designation so it is sometimes >> difficult to track persons who marry women with similar names. In >> addition >> to Josephine Bello's birthdate being confused with her mother Judith >> Bello's >> date, she is shown as Judith on some records. I'm working on sorting out >> all the children. >> >> Stanley LeBlanc >> http://www.thecajuns.com >> >> _____ >>

Does anyone know parents/birthdate for Leodice Melancon who m., probably in St. Landry or Acadia Parish, LA to Eva Camellia Rourk, probably ca. 1920? Thanks for any help... cheers, Gordon

Hello everyone, I'm looking into the family of Floreine Neveaux [sp?]. This name is listed in the 1920 US census for St. Martinville. LA. Floreine was born c. 1887. In Fr. Hebert's SWLR, I found a Floride Jean Baptiste Neveu who died 1857 at age 36; his succession was dated Jan 1858. I'm not sure if there is a connection between the two. Does anybody have any information on either of these? Thank you --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.

Irminia Landry [Landrez, Snadrez] was Irmina Sanders. She had a brother named Joseph Amedee who married Odilia Dugas. His tomb in the Historic St. Nicolas Cemetery at Patoutville, LA [church rebuilt at Lydia but cemetery left at Patoutville] needs immediate repairs - see http://www.thecajuns.com/pvcemetery.htm Irmina's parents were John, bn abt 1826 and Osea Hebert [Ozea, Orea, Ozin, Augea Mebert] , bn abt 1843. The DOB info was obtained from the 1880 census record and the spelling variations from the birth/marriage records of the children. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: acadian-cajun-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:acadian-cajun-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cecil Van Duzee Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 2:33 AM To: acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com; Gordon Bonnet Subject: Re: [Acadian-Cajun] LeBlanc/Sanders Census records through 1930 point to his birth 1875/1876 which would fit between sibs born Feb 1874 and Jan 1879. Month of Dec legible in 1900 census. >From SWLR: LANDRY, Irnina m. 10 July 1896 Clebert LEBLANC (NI Ct. Hse.: Mar. #5389) LEBLANC, Clebert m. 10 July 1896 Irnina LANDREZ (NI Ct. Hse.: Mar. #5389) LEBLANC, Clebert (d. Bernard & Clemence BROUSSARD) m. 20 July 1896 Irmina SNADREZ, 17 yrs. old (Jeanerette Ch.: v. 1, p. 147) SANDERS, Irmina 17 yrs. old (John & Ozea HEBERT) m. 20 July 1896 Clebert LEBLANC (Jeanerette Ch.: v. 1, p. 147) Cecil Van Duzee ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Bonnet<mailto:jaggy227@fltg.net> To: acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com<mailto:acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 6:31 AM Subject: [Acadian-Cajun] LeBlanc/Sanders Does anyone know the parents/birthdate of Clebert LeBlanc, m. ca. 1895 probably in Iberia Parish, LA, to Irmina Sanders? Thanks... Gordon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-CAJUN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ACADIAN-CAJUN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-CAJUN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In Book, Kakaskia Under the French Regime 1. Marie Francoise Quebedeau who married Nicolas Provost [Prevot, Prevost] in July 1745 [pgs 109-110]; Does it list the names of the children? Eight children for Nicolas Provost and Marie Francoise: 6 born at Ft. Chartres, IL and 2 born at Pointe Coupee. Marie Francoise was born about 1724 as her age is shown as 80 on her death record in 1804. Marie Francoise and Nicolas Prevost. They most likely arrived in 1763 or early 1764 because a daughter married at Pointe Coupee in Sept. 1764. I think this is where I come in Thanks for any additional information Judy smileson@aol.com ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Census records through 1930 point to his birth 1875/1876 which would fit between sibs born Feb 1874 and Jan 1879. Month of Dec legible in 1900 census. >From SWLR: LANDRY, Irnina m. 10 July 1896 Clebert LEBLANC (NI Ct. Hse.: Mar. #5389) LEBLANC, Clebert m. 10 July 1896 Irnina LANDREZ (NI Ct. Hse.: Mar. #5389) LEBLANC, Clebert (d. Bernard & Clemence BROUSSARD) m. 20 July 1896 Irmina SNADREZ, 17 yrs. old (Jeanerette Ch.: v. 1, p. 147) SANDERS, Irmina 17 yrs. old (John & Ozea HEBERT) m. 20 July 1896 Clebert LEBLANC (Jeanerette Ch.: v. 1, p. 147) Cecil Van Duzee ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Bonnet<mailto:jaggy227@fltg.net> To: acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com<mailto:acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 6:31 AM Subject: [Acadian-Cajun] LeBlanc/Sanders Does anyone know the parents/birthdate of Clebert LeBlanc, m. ca. 1895 probably in Iberia Parish, LA, to Irmina Sanders? Thanks... Gordon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-CAJUN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ACADIAN-CAJUN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Marsha, Charles Sonnier who married Sophie Bello was the son of Sylvain Sonnier (I) and Madeleine Bourg. SONNIER, Charles (Silvain & Magdeleine Bourg) bt. 26 Aug. 1781 at age 4 1/2 mths. (Opel. Ch.: v. 1-A, p. 25) [Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A, p. 719]. Roger A. Rozendal rogroz@swbell.net On Aug 31, 2007, at 4:56 PM, marsha wrote: > Hi, > > It seems I have Sophronia Bello, Donato Bello & Susanne > Moreau > born May 16, 1784 marrying Charles Sonnier in 1804. > > I have no more infor on Charles. Do we know where he fits > in with > our Sonnier's in this topic.? > > Thanks, Marsha >

Hi, It seems I have Sophronia Bello, Donato Bello & Susanne Moreau born May 16, 1784 marrying Charles Sonnier in 1804. I have no more infor on Charles. Do we know where he fits in with our Sonnier's in this topic.? Thanks, Marsha ----- Original Message ----- From: <acadian-cajun-request@rootsweb.com> To: <acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:00 AM Subject: ACADIAN-CAJUN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 158 > > > ******************************* > Plain digests are sent to users with all posts listed in one long email. > For most subscribers, MIME digests will appear with all posts as > individual attachments. The default digest delivery is Plain. If you want > your digest in MIME, please write me directly at > Acadian-Cajun-admin@rootsweb.com > **************************** > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Sylvain Sonnier III might have been Sylvain, fils > (Stanley LeBlanc) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 15:18:48 -0500 > From: "Stanley LeBlanc" <cajun@thecajuns.com> > Subject: Re: [Acadian-Cajun] Sylvain Sonnier III might have been > Sylvain, fils > To: "'ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb. Com'" <ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <002b01c7ea79$cf3f8f20$0201a8c0@Stan2> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > To add to the saga, Sylvain III also had a son named Sylvain. So Sylvain > III > is shown as Slvain, pere and Sylvain IV is shown as fils. > > The French didn't use the Roman Numeral designation so it is sometimes > difficult to track persons who marry women with similar names. In addition > to Josephine Bello's birthdate being confused with her mother Judith > Bello's > date, she is shown as Judith on some records. I'm working on sorting out > all the children. > > Stanley LeBlanc > http://www.thecajuns.com > > _____ > > From: Roger Rozendal [mailto:rogroz@swbell.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:23 PM > To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb. Com > Cc: Stanley LeBlanc > Subject: [Acadian-Cajun] Sylvain Sonnier III might have been Sylvain, fils > > > > > On Aug 27, 2007, at 9:31 PM, Stanley LeBlanc wrote: > > > I just noticed that one record refers to Sylvain Sonnier II as Pere so > Sylvain Sonnier, fils who had the children with Josephine Bello could have > been Sylvain III. He was born abt 1794 and Josephine was born in 1797. > Melite was married in 1826 so she would have been been born about 1812. > Sylvain III would have been 18 and Josephine 15. Since Josephine was the > step-sister of Sylvain III, they might not have been allowed to marry. > > This scenario makes more sense since many persons were married after > having > had several children. Also, the succession for Sylvain II doesn't mention > the children shown for Sylvain and Josephine. > > Stanley LeBlanc > http://www.thecajuns.com > > > > Further to what Stanley wrote: > > MULTIPLE SYLVAIN SONNIERS > > In the early years of the Acadians in Louisiana, there were a number of > Sylvain Sonniers which has caused some confusion. Using church records and > census data, I have come up with the following relationships and would > appreciate any additions or corrections to the material. > > The first Sylvain Sonnier (Saulnier in Acadia and in early Louisiana) came > to Louisiana probably arriving in May 1765 and settling in Opelousas. He > was > listed as a bachelor in the 4 April 1766 Opelousas census. Sylvain I > (Etienne/Jeanne Comeau) was born ca. 1737 (census data) and was buried 25 > January 1801 in Opelousas (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-B p. 663). He married > Madeleine Bourg (Charles/Anne Boudrot) between 4 April 1766 census and1768 > because in the 1771 Opelousas census, they are listed with a daughter age > 3 > (Church records of this period have been lost). Madeleine Bourg was born 1 > April 1744 in Tracadie, Ile St. Jean. She died 30 May 1814 (Hebert SWLA > Records v. 2-A p. 122). > > They had 10 children, one of whom was Sylvain II. > > Silvain (SONNIER) (Silvain & Magdelene Bourque) bn. 6 Feb. 1771 (PCP-2, > part > 2, 106a) (DOBR Records v. 2 p. 679) > > Sylvain II (Sylvain I/Madeleine Bourg) died 28 September 1829 (Hebert SWLA > Records v. 2-C p. 708). Previously, he had filed a Succession (will) dated > October 1821 listing his four sons by his first marriage (Hebert SWLA > Records v. 2-B p. 861). This sometime causes confusion about his death > date. > Sylvain II appears in the 1810 and 1820 census. > > Sylvain II married first on 19 May 1789 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. > 723) > Emilie (Humilde) Comeaux (Charles/Anastasie Savoie). Emilie was born ca. > 1773 (census data) and was buried 20 February 1801 (Hebert SWLA Records v. > 1-B p. 188). They had at least 4 (maybe 5) children including: > > SONNIER, Silvain (Silvain el hijo & Emilie Comeaux) b. 1 April 1789, bt. > Thursday, 25 Dec. 1794 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A, p. 723) > > However, also listed is: > > SONNIER, Silvain (Silvain Sogne el hijo) bur. Saturday, 2 Jan. 1796 > (Hebert > SWLA Records v. 1-A, p. 723) > > Since there are numerous later church records for a Sylvain Sonnier, son > of > Sylvain & Emilie Comeaux and a Sylvain is listed in the Succession dated > October 1821, maybe, as often was the custom when a child died, the next > child born was given the same name (Sylvain IIIa was buried 2 Jan. 1796, > Sylvain IIIb may have been born ca. 1798.) > > Before going on with Sylvain IIIb (Sylvain II/Emilie Comeaux), it is > necessary to look at the second marriage of Sylvain II. Emilie Comeaux was > buried 20 February 1801 and on 10 December 1802, Sylvain II married Judith > Bello (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-B, p. 663). Judith Bello (Donat/Suzanne > Moreau) was born 29 January 1777 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 45) and > was > buried 4 February 1817 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 49). Prior to her > marriage to Sylvain, it would appear Judith had an illegitimate child: > > BELLO, Josephine (Judith Bello) b. 29 January 1777 (sic- birth date of > mother), bt. Tuesday, 10 Sep. 1799 Spons: Joseph Moreau, her uncle & > Suzanne > Moreau, her maternal grandmother. (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 45). The > 1777 birth date is in error as it clearly states Suzanne Moreau, mother of > Judith Bello is the grandmother of Josephine. This error has caused some > researchers to believe Judith and Josephine are the same person. Other > sources indicate the father of Josephine may have been Joseph Poire (see > later). > > Now back to the marriage of Sylvain II and Judith Bello. In Hebert SWLA > Records v. 1-B p. 663 is found: > > SONNIER, Silvain- a widower of this post (dec. Silvain & Magdeleine Bourg) > m. 10 Dec. 1802 Judith Bello- also single, native and living in this post > (Donato & Susanne Moreau), Declare a son of 3 months of age [Donat bpt. 20 > Feb. 1808 at age 5 yrs. (Hebert SWLA Records v.1-B p. 661)]. > > It would seem Judith was unmarried and had another child out of wedlock. > Remember she also had a daughter Josephine (age 3) prior to this wedding. > > After Sylvain II married Judith Bello, Sylvain IIIb and Josephine Bello > lived in the same household. > > Now on to Sylvain IIIb. > > He may have been born ca. 1798. His Succession was dated October 1851. > There > are three interesting entries in the church records concerning Sylvain > IIIb > and Josephine Bello (who grew up in the same household): > > BELLO, Emilie (Josephine & from what they told me, Sylvain Saunier fils > from > here) b. in January 1814, bt. 18 June 1817 Pats: Sylvain Saunier & Emilie > Comeau from here; Mats: Donato Bello from Italy & Suzanne Moro from Mobile > (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 48). > > BELLO, Judic (Josephine Bello & from what they have told me, Sylvain > Saunier > fils from here) b. in Jan, 1814, bt. 18 June 1817 Pats: Sylvain Saunier & > Emilie Comau from here; Mats: Donato Bello from Italy and Suzanne Moro > (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 49). > > Shortly after the 18 June 1817 baptisms of Emilie and Judic, Silvain III > and > Josephine Bello must have married because their next child appears in the > church records as: > > SONNIER, Sylvain (Sylvain fils & Josephine Poire from here) b. 11 Feb. > 1818, > bt. 7 Jul 1818. Pats: Sylvain Saunier & Emile Comau from here Mats: Joseph > Poire & Judic Bello from here (Herbert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 878). This > is > the source for Joseph Poire being the father of Josephine. > > Sylvain IIIb and Josephine Bello had 6 children including: > > Sylvain IV, b. 11 February 1818 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 878) > married > first 10 January 1837 (Opel. Ch.: v. 2, p. 104) Marie-Louise Sonnier > (Louis/Denise Carrierre) born 3 November 1819 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-B > p. > 860). No further research on this Sylvain has been done. > > There were two other Sylvains in early Louisiana of which I am aware. > > Charles Sonnier (Sylvain I/Madeleine Bourg) bpt. 26 Aug. 1781 at 4 ? > months > (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 719) married ca. 1804 Sophie Bello > (Donat/Suzanne Moreau) b. 16 May 1784 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 45). > (Sophie was a sister of Judith Bello). They had at least 4 children > including: > > SONNIER, Silvain (Charles Soigne & Sophie Bello) b. 30 Dec. 1807, bt. 15 > July 1819 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-B p. 663) > > He would be a nephew of Sylvain II and a cousin of Sylvain IIIb. > > Louis Sonnier (Sylvain II/Emilie Comeaux) b. 3 August 1797 (Hebert SWLA > Records v. 1-A p. 721) married 20 February 1816 (Hebert SWLA Records v. > 2-A > p. 876) Denise Carrierre (Pierre & Marie-Louise Vivarene). They had at > least > 8 children including: > > SONNIER, Sylven (Louis Sogne & Denise Carrierre) b. 12 Feb. 1822, bt. 12 > March 1822 Pats: Sylven Soigne & Emile Comeau Mats: Pierre Carriere & > Marie-Louise Vivaret. (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-B p. 861). > > He would be a nephew of Sylvain IIIb. > > Hope this helps in keeping the Sylvain Sonniers and their relationships > with > the Bellos straight. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ACADIAN-CAJUN list administrator, send an email to > ACADIAN-CAJUN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ACADIAN-CAJUN mailing list, send an email to > ACADIAN-CAJUN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ACADIAN-CAJUN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ACADIAN-CAJUN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 158 > ********************************************* >

Does anyone know the parents of Mary LeBlanc, b. ca 1904, m. ca. 1922 probably in Houma LA to Joseph Irvin Darcy, s/o Emile and Adele (Ayo) Darcy? thanks... Gordon

Does anyone know the parents/birthdate of Clebert LeBlanc, m. ca. 1895 probably in Iberia Parish, LA, to Irmina Sanders? Thanks... Gordon

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Thanks for the notice Lucie... Andy SCott -----Original Message----- From: acadian-french-canadian-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:acadian-french-canadian-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lucie Consentino Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:48 AM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com; ACADIAN-FRENCH-CANADIAN@rootsweb.com Subject: [AFC] spoofed email Hi Everybody, If you have received a message from me that you do not understand, please know that it is a spoofed email from goodness knows who. Please ignore and delete. I see that it went out to many people on the two lists which likely means the person culled the email addresses from the RootsWeb archives. Just delete – nothing to worry about. I am contacting RootsWeb. My best, Lucie               Lucie LeBlanc Consentino            AFC RootsWeb Administrator      Acadian-French-Canadian Mailing List ACADIAN-FRENCH-CANADIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Acadian & French-Canadian Ancestral Home         www.acadian-home.org/frames.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-FRENCH-CANADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everybody, If you have received a message from me that you do not understand, please know that it is a spoofed email from goodness knows who. Please ignore and delete. I see that it went out to many people on the two lists which likely means the person culled the email addresses from the RootsWeb archives. Just delete – nothing to worry about. I am contacting RootsWeb. My best, Lucie               Lucie LeBlanc Consentino            AFC RootsWeb Administrator      Acadian-French-Canadian Mailing List ACADIAN-FRENCH-CANADIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Acadian & French-Canadian Ancestral Home         www.acadian-home.org/frames.html

Gordon: Marie Urcinie "Lucine" Ayo married Lovincy Hippolite Boudreaux on 6 Jan 1872 at St Philomena Church, Labadieville, LA. [DOBR-12; page 32; SPH-v. 4, p. 436.] Banks Edwards -------------- Original message from Gordon Bonnet <jaggy227@fltg.net>: -------------- > OK, this time I have a definite mistake in my database... > > I have Francois Gonzales m. 24 Sep 1870 to two different Marie Ayos > -- one of them the daughter of Theodor Neuville and Marcellite > (Prejean) Ayo, the other one Marie Ursinie Ayo, daughter of Basil > Ursin and Marie Adeline (Ayo) Ayo -- so somehow I put the marriage > down for both of them, and obviously only one of them married him! > Can someone with access to SLAR by Donald Hebert check which is > correct for me? The marriage occurred in Thibodaux, LA. > > thanks! > > Gordon > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ACADIAN-CAJUN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To add to the saga, Sylvain III also had a son named Sylvain. So Sylvain III is shown as Slvain, pere and Sylvain IV is shown as fils. The French didn't use the Roman Numeral designation so it is sometimes difficult to track persons who marry women with similar names. In addition to Josephine Bello's birthdate being confused with her mother Judith Bello's date, she is shown as Judith on some records. I'm working on sorting out all the children. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com _____ From: Roger Rozendal [mailto:rogroz@swbell.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:23 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb. Com Cc: Stanley LeBlanc Subject: [Acadian-Cajun] Sylvain Sonnier III might have been Sylvain, fils On Aug 27, 2007, at 9:31 PM, Stanley LeBlanc wrote: I just noticed that one record refers to Sylvain Sonnier II as Pere so Sylvain Sonnier, fils who had the children with Josephine Bello could have been Sylvain III. He was born abt 1794 and Josephine was born in 1797. Melite was married in 1826 so she would have been been born about 1812. Sylvain III would have been 18 and Josephine 15. Since Josephine was the step-sister of Sylvain III, they might not have been allowed to marry. This scenario makes more sense since many persons were married after having had several children. Also, the succession for Sylvain II doesn't mention the children shown for Sylvain and Josephine. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com Further to what Stanley wrote: MULTIPLE SYLVAIN SONNIERS In the early years of the Acadians in Louisiana, there were a number of Sylvain Sonniers which has caused some confusion. Using church records and census data, I have come up with the following relationships and would appreciate any additions or corrections to the material. The first Sylvain Sonnier (Saulnier in Acadia and in early Louisiana) came to Louisiana probably arriving in May 1765 and settling in Opelousas. He was listed as a bachelor in the 4 April 1766 Opelousas census. Sylvain I (Etienne/Jeanne Comeau) was born ca. 1737 (census data) and was buried 25 January 1801 in Opelousas (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-B p. 663). He married Madeleine Bourg (Charles/Anne Boudrot) between 4 April 1766 census and1768 because in the 1771 Opelousas census, they are listed with a daughter age 3 (Church records of this period have been lost). Madeleine Bourg was born 1 April 1744 in Tracadie, Ile St. Jean. She died 30 May 1814 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 122). They had 10 children, one of whom was Sylvain II. Silvain (SONNIER) (Silvain & Magdelene Bourque) bn. 6 Feb. 1771 (PCP-2, part 2, 106a) (DOBR Records v. 2 p. 679) Sylvain II (Sylvain I/Madeleine Bourg) died 28 September 1829 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-C p. 708). Previously, he had filed a Succession (will) dated October 1821 listing his four sons by his first marriage (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-B p. 861). This sometime causes confusion about his death date. Sylvain II appears in the 1810 and 1820 census. Sylvain II married first on 19 May 1789 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 723) Emilie (Humilde) Comeaux (Charles/Anastasie Savoie). Emilie was born ca. 1773 (census data) and was buried 20 February 1801 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-B p. 188). They had at least 4 (maybe 5) children including: SONNIER, Silvain (Silvain el hijo & Emilie Comeaux) b. 1 April 1789, bt. Thursday, 25 Dec. 1794 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A, p. 723) However, also listed is: SONNIER, Silvain (Silvain Sogne el hijo) bur. Saturday, 2 Jan. 1796 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A, p. 723) Since there are numerous later church records for a Sylvain Sonnier, son of Sylvain & Emilie Comeaux and a Sylvain is listed in the Succession dated October 1821, maybe, as often was the custom when a child died, the next child born was given the same name (Sylvain IIIa was buried 2 Jan. 1796, Sylvain IIIb may have been born ca. 1798.) Before going on with Sylvain IIIb (Sylvain II/Emilie Comeaux), it is necessary to look at the second marriage of Sylvain II. Emilie Comeaux was buried 20 February 1801 and on 10 December 1802, Sylvain II married Judith Bello (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-B, p. 663). Judith Bello (Donat/Suzanne Moreau) was born 29 January 1777 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 45) and was buried 4 February 1817 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 49). Prior to her marriage to Sylvain, it would appear Judith had an illegitimate child: BELLO, Josephine (Judith Bello) b. 29 January 1777 (sic- birth date of mother), bt. Tuesday, 10 Sep. 1799 Spons: Joseph Moreau, her uncle & Suzanne Moreau, her maternal grandmother. (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 45). The 1777 birth date is in error as it clearly states Suzanne Moreau, mother of Judith Bello is the grandmother of Josephine. This error has caused some researchers to believe Judith and Josephine are the same person. Other sources indicate the father of Josephine may have been Joseph Poire (see later). Now back to the marriage of Sylvain II and Judith Bello. In Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-B p. 663 is found: SONNIER, Silvain- a widower of this post (dec. Silvain & Magdeleine Bourg) m. 10 Dec. 1802 Judith Bello- also single, native and living in this post (Donato & Susanne Moreau), Declare a son of 3 months of age [Donat bpt. 20 Feb. 1808 at age 5 yrs. (Hebert SWLA Records v.1-B p. 661)]. It would seem Judith was unmarried and had another child out of wedlock. Remember she also had a daughter Josephine (age 3) prior to this wedding. After Sylvain II married Judith Bello, Sylvain IIIb and Josephine Bello lived in the same household. Now on to Sylvain IIIb. He may have been born ca. 1798. His Succession was dated October 1851. There are three interesting entries in the church records concerning Sylvain IIIb and Josephine Bello (who grew up in the same household): BELLO, Emilie (Josephine & from what they told me, Sylvain Saunier fils from here) b. in January 1814, bt. 18 June 1817 Pats: Sylvain Saunier & Emilie Comeau from here; Mats: Donato Bello from Italy & Suzanne Moro from Mobile (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 48). BELLO, Judic (Josephine Bello & from what they have told me, Sylvain Saunier fils from here) b. in Jan, 1814, bt. 18 June 1817 Pats: Sylvain Saunier & Emilie Comau from here; Mats: Donato Bello from Italy and Suzanne Moro (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 49). Shortly after the 18 June 1817 baptisms of Emilie and Judic, Silvain III and Josephine Bello must have married because their next child appears in the church records as: SONNIER, Sylvain (Sylvain fils & Josephine Poire from here) b. 11 Feb. 1818, bt. 7 Jul 1818. Pats: Sylvain Saunier & Emile Comau from here Mats: Joseph Poire & Judic Bello from here (Herbert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 878). This is the source for Joseph Poire being the father of Josephine. Sylvain IIIb and Josephine Bello had 6 children including: Sylvain IV, b. 11 February 1818 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 878) married first 10 January 1837 (Opel. Ch.: v. 2, p. 104) Marie-Louise Sonnier (Louis/Denise Carrierre) born 3 November 1819 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-B p. 860). No further research on this Sylvain has been done. There were two other Sylvains in early Louisiana of which I am aware. Charles Sonnier (Sylvain I/Madeleine Bourg) bpt. 26 Aug. 1781 at 4 ½ months (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 719) married ca. 1804 Sophie Bello (Donat/Suzanne Moreau) b. 16 May 1784 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 45). (Sophie was a sister of Judith Bello). They had at least 4 children including: SONNIER, Silvain (Charles Soigne & Sophie Bello) b. 30 Dec. 1807, bt. 15 July 1819 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-B p. 663) He would be a nephew of Sylvain II and a cousin of Sylvain IIIb. Louis Sonnier (Sylvain II/Emilie Comeaux) b. 3 August 1797 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 721) married 20 February 1816 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 876) Denise Carrierre (Pierre & Marie-Louise Vivarene). They had at least 8 children including: SONNIER, Sylven (Louis Sogne & Denise Carrierre) b. 12 Feb. 1822, bt. 12 March 1822 Pats: Sylven Soigne & Emile Comeau Mats: Pierre Carriere & Marie-Louise Vivaret. (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-B p. 861). He would be a nephew of Sylvain IIIb. Hope this helps in keeping the Sylvain Sonniers and their relationships with the Bellos straight.

> > On Aug 27, 2007, at 9:31 PM, Stanley LeBlanc wrote: > >> I just noticed that one record refers to Sylvain Sonnier II as >> Pere so >> Sylvain Sonnier, fils who had the children with Josephine Bello >> could have >> been Sylvain III. He was born abt 1794 and Josephine was born in >> 1797. >> Melite was married in 1826 so she would have been been born about >> 1812. >> Sylvain III would have been 18 and Josephine 15. Since Josephine >> was the >> step-sister of Sylvain III, they might not have been allowed to >> marry. >> >> This scenario makes more sense since many persons were married >> after having >> had several children. Also, the succession for Sylvain II doesn't >> mention >> the children shown for Sylvain and Josephine. >> >> Stanley LeBlanc >> http://www.thecajuns.com > > > Further to what Stanley wrote: > MULTIPLE SYLVAIN SONNIERS > > In the early years of the Acadians in Louisiana, there were a > number of Sylvain Sonniers which has caused some confusion. Using > church records and census data, I have come up with the following > relationships and would appreciate any additions or corrections to > the material. > > The first Sylvain Sonnier (Saulnier in Acadia and in early > Louisiana) came to Louisiana probably arriving in May 1765 and > settling in Opelousas. He was listed as a bachelor in the 4 April > 1766 Opelousas census. Sylvain I (Etienne/Jeanne Comeau) was born > ca. 1737 (census data) and was buried 25 January 1801 in Opelousas > (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-B p. 663). He married Madeleine Bourg > (Charles/Anne Boudrot) between 4 April 1766 census and1768 because > in the 1771 Opelousas census, they are listed with a daughter age 3 > (Church records of this period have been lost). Madeleine Bourg was > born 1 April 1744 in Tracadie, Ile St. Jean. She died 30 May 1814 > (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 122). > > They had 10 children, one of whom was Sylvain II. > > Silvain (SONNIER) (Silvain & Magdelene Bourque) bn. 6 Feb. 1771 > (PCP-2, part 2, 106a) (DOBR Records v. 2 p. 679) > > Sylvain II (Sylvain I/Madeleine Bourg) died 28 September 1829 > (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-C p. 708). Previously, he had filed a > Succession (will) dated October 1821 listing his four sons by his > first marriage (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-B p. 861). This sometime > causes confusion about his death date. Sylvain II appears in the > 1810 and 1820 census. > > Sylvain II married first on 19 May 1789 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A > p. 723) Emilie (Humilde) Comeaux (Charles/Anastasie Savoie). Emilie > was born ca. 1773 (census data) and was buried 20 February 1801 > (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-B p. 188). They had at least 4 (maybe 5) > children including: > > SONNIER, Silvain (Silvain el hijo & Emilie Comeaux) b. 1 April > 1789, bt. Thursday, 25 Dec. 1794 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A, p. 723) > > However, also listed is: > > SONNIER, Silvain (Silvain Sogne el hijo) bur. Saturday, 2 Jan. 1796 > (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A, p. 723) > > Since there are numerous later church records for a Sylvain > Sonnier, son of Sylvain & Emilie Comeaux and a Sylvain is listed in > the Succession dated October 1821, maybe, as often was the custom > when a child died, the next child born was given the same name > (Sylvain IIIa was buried 2 Jan. 1796, Sylvain IIIb may have been > born ca. 1798.) > > Before going on with Sylvain IIIb (Sylvain II/Emilie Comeaux), it > is necessary to look at the second marriage of Sylvain II. Emilie > Comeaux was buried 20 February 1801 and on 10 December 1802, > Sylvain II married Judith Bello (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-B, p. > 663). Judith Bello (Donat/Suzanne Moreau) was born 29 January 1777 > (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 45) and was buried 4 February 1817 > (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 49). Prior to her marriage to > Sylvain, it would appear Judith had an illegitimate child: > > BELLO, Josephine (Judith Bello) b. 29 January 1777 (sic- birth date > of mother), bt. Tuesday, 10 Sep. 1799 Spons: Joseph Moreau, her > uncle & Suzanne Moreau, her maternal grandmother. (Hebert SWLA > Records v. 1-A p. 45). The 1777 birth date is in error as it > clearly states Suzanne Moreau, mother of Judith Bello is the > grandmother of Josephine. This error has caused some researchers to > believe Judith and Josephine are the same person. Other sources > indicate the father of Josephine may have been Joseph Poire (see > later). > > Now back to the marriage of Sylvain II and Judith Bello. In Hebert > SWLA Records v. 1-B p. 663 is found: > > SONNIER, Silvain- a widower of this post (dec. Silvain & Magdeleine > Bourg) m. 10 Dec. 1802 Judith Bello- also single, native and living > in this post (Donato & Susanne Moreau), Declare a son of 3 months > of age [Donat bpt. 20 Feb. 1808 at age 5 yrs. (Hebert SWLA Records > v.1-B p. 661)]. > > It would seem Judith was unmarried and had another child out of > wedlock. Remember she also had a daughter Josephine (age 3) prior > to this wedding. > > After Sylvain II married Judith Bello, Sylvain IIIb and Josephine > Bello lived in the same household. > > Now on to Sylvain IIIb. > > He may have been born ca. 1798. His Succession was dated October > 1851. There are three interesting entries in the church records > concerning Sylvain IIIb and Josephine Bello (who grew up in the > same household): > > BELLO, Emilie (Josephine & from what they told me, Sylvain Saunier > fils from here) b. in January 1814, bt. 18 June 1817 Pats: Sylvain > Saunier & Emilie Comeau from here; Mats: Donato Bello from Italy & > Suzanne Moro from Mobile (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 48). > > BELLO, Judic (Josephine Bello & from what they have told me, > Sylvain Saunier fils from here) b. in Jan, 1814, bt. 18 June 1817 > Pats: Sylvain Saunier & Emilie Comau from here; Mats: Donato Bello > from Italy and Suzanne Moro (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 49). > > Shortly after the 18 June 1817 baptisms of Emilie and Judic, > Silvain III and Josephine Bello must have married because their > next child appears in the church records as: > > SONNIER, Sylvain (Sylvain fils & Josephine Poire from here) b. 11 > Feb. 1818, bt. 7 Jul 1818. Pats: Sylvain Saunier & Emile Comau from > here Mats: Joseph Poire & Judic Bello from here (Herbert SWLA > Records v. 2-A p. 878). This is the source for Joseph Poire being > the father of Josephine. > > Sylvain IIIb and Josephine Bello had 6 children including: > > Sylvain IV, b. 11 February 1818 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-A p. 878) > married first 10 January 1837 (Opel. Ch.: v. 2, p. 104) Marie- > Louise Sonnier (Louis/Denise Carrierre) born 3 November 1819 > (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-B p. 860). No further research on this > Sylvain has been done. > > There were two other Sylvains in early Louisiana of which I am aware. > > Charles Sonnier (Sylvain I/Madeleine Bourg) bpt. 26 Aug. 1781 at 4 > ½ months (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 719) married ca. 1804 > Sophie Bello (Donat/Suzanne Moreau) b. 16 May 1784 (Hebert SWLA > Records v. 1-A p. 45). (Sophie was a sister of Judith Bello). They > had at least 4 children including: > > SONNIER, Silvain (Charles Soigne & Sophie Bello) b. 30 Dec. 1807, > bt. 15 July 1819 (Hebert SWLA Records v. 1-B p. 663) > > He would be a nephew of Sylvain II and a cousin of Sylvain IIIb. > > Louis Sonnier (Sylvain II/Emilie Comeaux) b. 3 August 1797 (Hebert > SWLA Records v. 1-A p. 721) married 20 February 1816 (Hebert SWLA > Records v. 2-A p. 876) Denise Carrierre (Pierre & Marie-Louise > Vivarene). They had at least 8 children including: > > SONNIER, Sylven (Louis Sogne & Denise Carrierre) b. 12 Feb. 1822, > bt. 12 March 1822 Pats: Sylven Soigne & Emile Comeau Mats: Pierre > Carriere & Marie-Louise Vivaret. (Hebert SWLA Records v. 2-B p. 861). > > He would be a nephew of Sylvain IIIb. > > Hope this helps in keeping the Sylvain Sonniers and their > relationships with the Bellos straight. > >

I just noticed that one record refers to Sylvain Sonnier II as Pere so Sylvain Sonnier, fils who had the children with Josephine Bello could have been Sylvain III. He was born abt 1794 and Josephine was born in 1797. Melite was married in 1826 so she would have been been born about 1812. Sylvain III would have been 18 and Josephine 15. Since Josephine was the step-sister of Sylvain III, they might not have been allowed to marry. This scenario makes more sense since many persons were married after having had several children. Also, the succession for Sylvain II doesn't mention the children shown for Sylvain and Josephine. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: acadian-cajun-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:acadian-cajun-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stanley LeBlanc Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:17 PM To: acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Acadian-Cajun] Sonnier/Carrier/Derbonne With a few exceptions, the detailed formal dispensation submittals ended when Louisiana became a Territory. Some records will show "with dispensation" but the formal dispensations that had to be sent to the Bishop under the Spanish period weren't made. Sylvain Sonnier II, son of Sylvain I and Madeleine Bourg was married to Judith Bello, She was his 2nd wife - his first wife was Emilie Comeaux. Judith had a daughter named Josephine [the birth record just shows Judith as the mother and the year is shown as 1/29/1777 which was actually Judith's birthdate so Josephine was most likely born in 1797 - she was baptized in Sept. 10, 1797. On another record, Josephine's father is shown as Joseph. Sylvain Sonnier II had several children, including Melite, with Josephine Bello before and after Judith died in 1817. He died in 1829. In 1839, Sylvain Sonnier III, the son of Sylvain II and his first wife, Emelie Comeaux, married Josphine Bello. They weren't related, but her children were his half brothers and sisters. Judith Bello was the daughter of Donato Bello and his wife, Suzanne Moreau. Donato also had several children with Jeanne Taillefer, a mixed race mistress. The children of this union initially took the surname Bello but later changed it to Donato. Some became wealthy landowners in St. Landry Parish. Donato Bello was from Naples, Italy and was an officer in the Opelousas Militia. Suzanne Moreau was from Mobile. Jeanne Taillefer was from New Orleans. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: acadian-cajun-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:acadian-cajun-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cecil Van Duzee Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 10:49 AM To: acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com; Gordon Bonnet Subject: Re: [Acadian-Cajun] Sonnier/Carrier/Derbonne Hello Gordon 1st cousin and other related party marriages were very, very common. There were dispensations; but our "trusted" recorded sources DNO, DOBR, and Hebert did not indicate dispensations granted. My data shows Emilie "Melite" to be the daughter of Sylvain, III and Josephine Bello. He was the son of Sylvain, fils and his first wife Emilie Comeaux. Elise was the daughter of Sylvain, fils and his (second) wife Judith Bello. That would make Elise the aunt of Melite. Cecil Van Duzee ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Bonnet<mailto:jaggy227@fltg.net> To: acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com<mailto:acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 6:09 AM Subject: [Acadian-Cajun] Sonnier/Carrier/Derbonne Is this correct? I've pieced this together from what records I've been able to scrape together, but it seems like this implies a way- too-close-relationship marriage. I'm trying to sort out Onezime Carriere who m. Elise Sonnier. They had a son, Onezime, b. in Opelousas in 1828, who m. Azeline Derbonne, daughter of Michel and Melite (Sonnier) Derbonne. The records are pretty clear that Melite Sonnier was the daughter of Sylvain Sonnier by his first wife Judith Bello. The problem is, I've also found indications that Elise Sonnier who married Onezime Carriere was also a daughter of Sylvain and Judith. This would make Elise and Melite sisters, and Onezime and Azeline Derbonne first cousins. It's not impossible -- I know it happened -- but wouldn't there have to be some kind of dispensation recorded for this marriage? If there is one, I've never found it. So the question is: is this correct? Especially, was Elise Sonnier, wife of Onezime Carriere, the daughter of Sylvain and Judith (Bello) Sonnier, or did I record something incorrectly? 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With a few exceptions, the detailed formal dispensation submittals ended when Louisiana became a Territory. Some records will show "with dispensation" but the formal dispensations that had to be sent to the Bishop under the Spanish period weren't made. Sylvain Sonnier II, son of Sylvain I and Madeleine Bourg was married to Judith Bello, She was his 2nd wife - his first wife was Emilie Comeaux. Judith had a daughter named Josephine [the birth record just shows Judith as the mother and the year is shown as 1/29/1777 which was actually Judith's birthdate so Josephine was most likely born in 1797 - she was baptized in Sept. 10, 1797. On another record, Josephine's father is shown as Joseph. Sylvain Sonnier II had several children, including Melite, with Josephine Bello before and after Judith died in 1817. He died in 1829. In 1839, Sylvain Sonnier III, the son of Sylvain II and his first wife, Emelie Comeaux, married Josphine Bello. They weren't related, but her children were his half brothers and sisters. Judith Bello was the daughter of Donato Bello and his wife, Suzanne Moreau. Donato also had several children with Jeanne Taillefer, a mixed race mistress. The children of this union initially took the surname Bello but later changed it to Donato. Some became wealthy landowners in St. Landry Parish. Donato Bello was from Naples, Italy and was an officer in the Opelousas Militia. Suzanne Moreau was from Mobile. Jeanne Taillefer was from New Orleans. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: acadian-cajun-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:acadian-cajun-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cecil Van Duzee Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 10:49 AM To: acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com; Gordon Bonnet Subject: Re: [Acadian-Cajun] Sonnier/Carrier/Derbonne Hello Gordon 1st cousin and other related party marriages were very, very common. There were dispensations; but our "trusted" recorded sources DNO, DOBR, and Hebert did not indicate dispensations granted. My data shows Emilie "Melite" to be the daughter of Sylvain, III and Josephine Bello. He was the son of Sylvain, fils and his first wife Emilie Comeaux. Elise was the daughter of Sylvain, fils and his (second) wife Judith Bello. That would make Elise the aunt of Melite. Cecil Van Duzee ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Bonnet<mailto:jaggy227@fltg.net> To: acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com<mailto:acadian-cajun@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 6:09 AM Subject: [Acadian-Cajun] Sonnier/Carrier/Derbonne Is this correct? I've pieced this together from what records I've been able to scrape together, but it seems like this implies a way- too-close-relationship marriage. I'm trying to sort out Onezime Carriere who m. Elise Sonnier. They had a son, Onezime, b. in Opelousas in 1828, who m. Azeline Derbonne, daughter of Michel and Melite (Sonnier) Derbonne. The records are pretty clear that Melite Sonnier was the daughter of Sylvain Sonnier by his first wife Judith Bello. The problem is, I've also found indications that Elise Sonnier who married Onezime Carriere was also a daughter of Sylvain and Judith. This would make Elise and Melite sisters, and Onezime and Azeline Derbonne first cousins. It's not impossible -- I know it happened -- but wouldn't there have to be some kind of dispensation recorded for this marriage? If there is one, I've never found it. So the question is: is this correct? Especially, was Elise Sonnier, wife of Onezime Carriere, the daughter of Sylvain and Judith (Bello) Sonnier, or did I record something incorrectly? Thanks, Gordon ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-CAJUN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ACADIAN-CAJUN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-CAJUN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message