Is this the same couples as you have? Estavan SP = Stephen EN = Etienne FR Paul Ahnentafel Chart for Jean-Baptiste LANDRY First Generation 1. Jean-Baptiste LANDRY was born about 1767. Jean-Baptiste married Marie Magdalena HEBERT. Marie was born about 1771. Second Generation 2. Etienne LANDRY was born 1733/1734 in Pisiquit, Acadia. He married Marie Joseph LANDRY. 3. Marie Joseph LANDRY. Third Generation 4. Pierre LANDRY[1,2] was born about 1705. He died before 7 Jul 1763. Pierre married[1,2] Anne Marie DOUCET on 3 Jun 1726 in Port Royal, Acadia. 5. Anne Marie DOUCET[1,2] was born 1706. 6. Alexandre LANDRY[2,3] was born 1695. He died before 7 Jul 1763. Alexandre married[2,3] Marie-Marguerite BLANCHARD on 1723. 7. Marie-Marguerite BLANCHARD[2,3] was born 1703/1707. Fourth Generation 8. Abraham LANDRY[2] was born about 1678 in Port Royal, Acadia. He married[2] Marie GUILBEAU on 5 Oct 1701 in Port Royal, Acadia. 9. Marie GUILBEAU[2,4] was born 1683. 10. Rene DOUCET Dit La Verdure[1,5,6] married[5] Marie-Anne BROUSSARD on 1702. 11. Marie-Anne BROUSSARD[5] was born Jan 1686 in Port Royal, Acadia. 12. Germain LANDRY[2,7] was born 1674. He married[2,7] Marie MELANSON on 1694. 13. Marie MELANSON[2,7] was born 1673. 14. Martin BLANCHARD[3,8,9] was born 1647 in Port Royal, Acadia. He married[3] Marguerite GUILBEAU Guilbaut on 1686 in Port Royal, Acadia. 15. Marguerite GUILBEAU Guilbaut[3,4,8] was born 1669 in Port Royal, Acadia. Appendix A - Sources 1. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes 1636-1714, v1 p 513-536 Doiron. 2. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Genealogique , v2 p 914-952 Landry. 3. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Genealogique , v1 p 143-156 Blanchard. 4. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Genealogique , v1 p 780-782 Guilbeau. 5. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Genealogique , v1 p 284-288 Broussard. 6. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Genealogique , v1 p 526-551 Doucet. 7. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Genealogique , v2 p 1145-1167 Melanson. 8. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Genealogique , v1 p 562-580 Dugas. 9. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Genealogique , v2 p 983-1022 LeBlanc. Index Name ID Generation BLANCHARD, Marie-Marguerite 7 3 BLANCHARD, Martin 14 4 BROUSSARD, Marie-Anne 11 4 DOUCET, Anne Marie 5 3 DOUCET, Rene Dit La Verdure 10 4 GUILBEAU, Marguerite Guilbaut 15 4 GUILBEAU, Marie 9 4 LANDRY, Abraham 8 4 LANDRY, Alexandre 6 3 LANDRY, Etienne 2 2 LANDRY, Germain 12 4 LANDRY, Jean-Baptiste 1 1 LANDRY, Marie Joseph 3 2 LANDRY, Pierre 4 3 MELANSON, Marie 13 4 Don2717@aol.com wrote: > Patricia at > r.forsander@comcast.net (Roy Forsander) > > Dear Don, > > The information on the Landry's is very informative, but I'm confused. In > one of the e-mails it was stated that Firmin Landry and Marie-Josephe Landry > were siblings (parents Alexandre Landry and Marguerite Blanchard). > > I have a Marie Josephe Landry, born c 1734, married to Estevan Landry in my > line. I'm wondering if my Marie Josephe Landry is the same person. I have > different parents (unsourced) for both Estevan and Marie Joseph. > > I am sure that Estevan Landry and Maria Josepha Landry are in my grandmother > Esmé Louise Landry's line because I have copies of all the marriage > certificates from my grandmother Esmé to Juan Bautiste Landry, of Lafourche and Maria > Magdalena Hebert. If she is the same, then this would make her a third cousin > once removed to Rosalie Apollina/Paulina Hebert, who is Firmin Landry's 3rd > Great Granddaughter. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Patricia > > Can anyone on the list help Patricia?? > > Don Landry > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/ACADIAN-CAJUN.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Patricia at r.forsander@comcast.net (Roy Forsander) Dear Don, The information on the Landry's is very informative, but I'm confused. In one of the e-mails it was stated that Firmin Landry and Marie-Josephe Landry were siblings (parents Alexandre Landry and Marguerite Blanchard). I have a Marie Josephe Landry, born c 1734, married to Estevan Landry in my line. I'm wondering if my Marie Josephe Landry is the same person. I have different parents (unsourced) for both Estevan and Marie Joseph. I am sure that Estevan Landry and Maria Josepha Landry are in my grandmother Esmé Louise Landry's line because I have copies of all the marriage certificates from my grandmother Esmé to Juan Bautiste Landry, of Lafourche and Maria Magdalena Hebert. If she is the same, then this would make her a third cousin once removed to Rosalie Apollina/Paulina Hebert, who is Firmin Landry's 3rd Great Granddaughter. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Patricia Can anyone on the list help Patricia?? Don Landry

I am posting this on behalf of Raymond Whitford of Attleboro, MA.  He is looking for Shirley DOUCETTE who was born 3/29/1935, the daughter of Germaine Truchon,who married ,at age 18,  Edward Doucette who was born 6/29/1913 and died 7/5/1939.  He worked at the Cranston Print Works, Cranston, RI.  Raymond has Edward's Naval discharge papers and a picture of him that he would like to pass on to Shirley Doucette.   Shirley has 6 daughters.  The family is said to be from Nova Scotia. Thanks for your help. Judy Truchon

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Thank you for this new bit of information on Firmin Landry. Now we need more information on his son: SATURIN LANDRY (1755-1779) Recently, I decided to try to get more information on Firmin Landry'd second born (son Saturin). So little had been found about him, and since there was no evidence of him having married or having children, he was overlooked. New evidence has been sent to me about Saturin, life that I thought might interest others. As we all know, Saturin LANDRY was born at Pisiquid, Acadia sometime in 1755 and he along with his parents and older brother Joseph, was deported ca 28 October, 1755 aboard the Sloop Ranger to Oxford, Maryland (arrived there in November, 1755) He and his family remained in exile at Oxford until the family traveled to Louisiana in ca 1766-67. The family is enumerated in the July 7, 1763 Census of Neutral Inhabitants detained at Oxford as follows: Firmin Landry, Elizabeth son espouse, Joseph et Saturin Landry, Eleine et Magd.ne Landry. (Janet Jehn in "Acadian Exiles in the Colonies" On page 143 is found a copy from the microfilm of the original records of the Maryland census dated 7 Juillet 1763.) Karen Theriot Reader at: <KATheriot@aol.com> quoting from THE EIGHTEENTH AND NINETEENTH CENTURIES; 1755-1899; Baltimore, Gateway Press, 1995; p. 140. writes: "Saturin LANDRY, on 14 Jan 1766, was with Firmin LANDRY as witness to the Maryland marriage of Amant BABIN & Anastasie LANDRY (Reference: Mosley). "and on 29 Apr 1773 at Pointe Coupee, LA he was most probably the Saturin who was witness to the baptism of Hubert LANDRY, son of Firmin [his father] & [2nd wife] Theotiste TIBAUDOT (PCP-2, part 2, 150). So Saturnin probably died after Apr 1773, but possibly before the militia lists were made in 1774 and 1777. I find no record of a marriage or children for him." "Saturin Landry apparently remained single" - (Robert C. West using Hebert 1974 vols 1-4 in "An Atlas of Louisiana Surnames of French and Spanish Origin" - page 92) This is probably true since no record of his marriage or any children have been found. Stanley LeBlanc <http://www.thecajuns.com> and Roger Rozendal <rogroz@swbell.net (Roger A. Rozendal)> collaborated in researching Firmin Landry and sent me the following: "Below are excerpts from the Acadian Memorial Database. The last info is the 1777 muster roll. Roger Rozendal and I had checked a while back and couldn't find any other information re marriages or death in the SWLR or the DOBR records. He wasn't shown in the 1801 probate of Firmin Landry's estate. I suspect that he was one of the soldiers who went with Declouet in Feb. 1779 to Pointe Coupee to fight under Galvez and was killed. Note the Mother's name! Mother: Élizabeth Françoise Thibodeau Father: Firmin Landry Louisiana: Identified in the 1771 census of the Attakapas District as a sixteen-year-old member of his father's household. The June 20, 1774, muster roll indicates that he was a fusilier in the Attakapas District militia. His name is rendered as Saturnine Landry in the June 20, 1774, list. The May 10, 1777, muster roll indicates that he was a fusilier in the Attakapas District militia. His name is rendered as Sinturnin Landry in the May 10, 1777 list. Sources: Census of the Attakapas District, 1771, AGI, PPC, 188C:43vo; Hébert, Southwest Louisiana Records, 1:344; Arsenault, Histoire et généalogie, 6:2522; Muster Roll for the Attakapas District Militia Unit, June 20, 1774, AGI, PPC, legajo 161; Muster Roll for the Attakapas District Militia Unit, May 10, 1777, AGI, PPC, legajo 161. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com Don Landry don2717@aol.com don2717@cox.com

<<Firmin Landry is one of those ancestors who somehow seems to encourage people to long discussions. I have checked what you have forwarded, and it basically agrees with what I have. <<Regarding Anne-Barbe Babin, she might have been sometimes known as Landry from the fact that before her marriage she lived in a Landry household, that of her brother-in-law Mathurin Landry, as is shown by the 1777 census. I have also seen church records in which a woman is called by her mother's maiden name, rather than by her own, which I have thought was just a careless mistake on the part of the person who wrote out the records. Where such careless mistakes are involved, however, the switch in names does not usually occur more than just the once. >> <<“Some think she [Françoise Thibodeau] and Theotiste [Thibodeau] were related, but there is no proof to this theory.” A relationship between two Thibodeaus at that time should not be characterized as theoretical, because it would have been inevitable. What is in doubt is the degree of the relationship, depending upon just who Françoise was. Actually, she was most likely a granddaughter of Pierre Thibodeau l'aîné, which would mean that she and Théotiste would have been second cousins.>> <<Karen Reader's theory about the Élisabeth who was listed with Firmin in 1763 being his sister, rather than his wife, is interesting. I can explain, however, why everyone has presumed that the Élisabeth in the census was his wife. It is because of the structure of the listing. In most censuses the head of the household comes first, followed by his wife, if the household head was a man and he had one, then come the children, if any, and then other relatives, such as unmarried siblings of the household head or his spouse, then come other in-laws, cousins, and orphans, if any made up part of the household. So we presume that Élisabeth was Firmin's wife because her name follows his and comes before the names of his children. Now, the fact that Firmin's first wife is everywhere else called Françoise is a problem. It is possible, consequently, that this Élisabeth was not really his first wife Françoise Thibodeau. Maybe she was a second wife about whom we know nothing else. I do not recall offhand whether the record of Firmin's second marriage precludes this possibility by specifying that he was the widower of Françoise Thibodeau. The real problem is that none of these records should be taken to be flawless. The name Élisabeth for Firmin's wife in the census might simply be an error. The omission of his sister from the same census might also have been an error, if she had indeed been so omitted, although I think that if one checks the 1763 census again it will be found that Élisabeth does appear at Oxford, along with her mother and sisters in the household headed by Olivier Babin. >> Lucie LeBlanc Consentino Acadian & French Canadian Ancestral Home www.acadian-home.org <http://www.acadian-home.org/> Am-Can Gen Soc www.acgs.org <http://www.acgs.org/> CMA 2004 - www.cma2004.com Grand-Pré - http://www.grand-pre.com/ www.umoncton.ca/etudeacadiennes/centre/cea.html <http://www.umoncton.ca/etudeacadiennes> <http://www.grand-pre.com/>

I was just updating my Dupuis ancestors and came across an unusual dispensation in the PRDH (marriage record # 321124). In french it says "L'évèque a accordé une dispense de parenté spirituelle." As near as I can figure, the bride was probably a former nun on probation who chose not to proceed with her final vows. Does anyone have any better idea what this dispensation is about? Regards, Maurice http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=maurice_a_l

-- > From: Rimous45@aol.com > Can anyone give me the birth / death dates and places for Pierre CAISSIE and > his wife Therese MIRANDE? I also need the marriage date and place. > > Were they transported or did they die in Acadie? > Thank you, > Paula Pierre Caissie, son of Roger Caissie & Marie-Francoise Poirier, was born ca 1678 (place unknown), married ca 1704 (place unknown) to Marie-Therese Mirande, and died 25 Feb 1741 at Beaubassin, Acadia [White "Dictionnaire" p. 310]. Marie-Therese Mirande, daughter of Emmanual Mirande & Marguerite Bourgeois, was born 28 Nov 1683 at Beaubassin, Acadia, married first ca 1704 [probably Beaubassin, Acadia] Pierre Caissie and married second before 1 Jan 1752 Abraham Arseneau [widower of Jeanne Gaudet], son of Pierre Arseneau & Marguerite Dugas. In 24 Oct 1760 census of Ristigouche, Therese is listed as the Widow of Abraham Arseneau. [White "Dictionnaire" p. 1198]. Therese was 73 years old at Ristigouche in 1760. I have found her on none of the prisoner lists compiled in 1762 and 1763 in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick and the likelyhood is she died before then. Therefore, she probably was never transported. Roger A. Rozendal rogroz@swbell.net

Can anyone give me the birth / death dates and places for Pierre CAISSIE and his wife Therese MIRANDE? I also need the marriage date and place. Were they transported or did they die in Acadie? Thank you, Paula

Thanks to all that wrote concerning Firmin Landry and family. I see that there are others on the list that have a connection to Firmin. Its nice to find new cousins thru this line. My Line: Firmin Landry m. Theodiste Thibodeaux (ggggg grandparents) son: Hubert Landry m. Euphrosine Aigrot (LeGros) (gggg grandparents) daug.: Cecile Landry m. Frederick Oz LeBlanc (ggg grandparents) daug.: Carmelite LeBlanc m. Pierre Galispi Louviere (gg grandparents) daug.: Matilda Louviere m St. Cyr Louviere (g granparents) son: Beauregard Louviere m. Anita Marie Lopez (my Grandparents) Karen Theriot Reader wrote: >Saturin LANDRY, on 14 Jan 1766, was with Firmin LANDRY as witness to the Maryland marriage of Amant BABIN & Anastasie LANDRY (Reference: Mosley). On 29 Apr 1773 at Pointe Coupee, LA he was most probably the Saturin who was witness to the baptism of Hubert LANDRY, son of Firmin [his father] & [2nd wife] Theotiste TIBAUDOT<

-- > I have some responses to your questions: > <How do you account for the statement: "LANDRY Firmin, Elizabeth his wife" > Don Landry> > > (1) I was relying on Gregory A. Wood's newer (1995) publication called A > GUIDE TO THE ACADIANS IN MARYLAND IN THE EIGHTEENTH AND NINETEENTH CENTURIES; > pp. > 140-141. There, he does not put "his wife" after Elizabeth's name, nor does he > treat her as he does the married women in his other household entries, where > in most, he gives the maiden name of the wife, with the indicator "nee" for > "born as." > > (2) I would like to see the original document of this Maryland census. I > understand it was included in a letter to the Duke of Nivernois, dated July 7, > 1763, "Au Duc de Nivernois," in AFFAIRES ETRANGERES, CORRESPONDANCE POLITIQUE, > ANGLETERRE; vol. 450 [CDL], pp. [ff.] 438-446. > Can someone on the list give me directions for obtaining a good copy of > the original? Is it on microfilm, can it be ordered? Janet Jehn in "Acadian Exiles in the Colonies" has a copy from the microfilm of the original records of the Maryland census dated 7 Juillet 1763. On page 143 is found: Firmin Landry, Elizabeth son espouse, Joseph et Saturin Landry, Eleine et Magd.ne Landry.......5 Roger A. Rozendal rogroz@swbell.net

> (3) <Saturin is not listed, although he would be 19 to 21 years old at this > time. Maybe as you suggested, he died young> > Again relying on Gregory A. Wood, A GUIDE TO THE ACADIANS IN MARYLAND IN > THE EIGHTEENTH AND NINETEENTH CENTURIES; 1755-1899; Baltimore, Gateway Press, > 1995; p. 140. Saturin LANDRY, on 14 Jan 1766, was with Firmin LANDRY as > witness > to the Maryland marriage of Amant BABIN & Anastasie LANDRY (Reference: > Mosley). On 29 Apr 1773 at Pointe Coupee, LA he was most probably the Saturin > who > was witness to the baptism of Hubert LANDRY, son of Firmin [his father] & [2nd > wife] Theotiste TIBAUDOT (PCP-2, part 2, 150). > So Saturnin? probably died after Apr 1773, but possibly before the militia > lists were made in 1774 and 1777. I find no record of a marriage or children > for him. > > Karen Theriot Reader > KATheriot@aol.com In "General Census of the Posts of Attakapas and Oppeloussas of 4 May 1777" by Winston de Ville is found under Family 57 the following: Firmin Landry, 50. Theotette Thibodaut, wife, 33. Garcons: Joseph, 25; Scaturnin, 22; Hubert, 5. Filles: Barbe Gaudin, 18; Francoise, 7; Helene, 3; Rosalie, 1; Marie-Louise Thibodaut, orphan, 14. This indicates Saturnin was alive on 4 May 1777. He is listed on the 10 May 1777 Militia Role as "Sinturnin Landry". However, he does not appear on the 1780 Militia Roster or in the April 1781 census. Firmin is listed in the 1781 census of Attakapas with 8 individuals in his family. Possibly Saturnin could be one of these if he was still single? Barbe Gaudin, 18, was the daughter of Theotiste Thibodeau and her first husband, Bonaventure Gaudin. Marie-Louise Thibodeau, orphan, 14, was the daughter of the deceased Charles Thibodeau and the deceased Brigitte Breau, and the sister of Theotiste Thibodeau. Roger A. Rozendal rogroz@swbell.net

Not long ago someone posted a statement made by an assistant to the Queen saying that the government or the Queen herself would address the deportation after receiving a formal letter by the gov't or the society pressing the issue. Could someone please repost it. Thanks a lot, Keith LeBouef

Don and List: I have some responses to your questions: <How do you account for the statement: "LANDRY Firmin, Elizabeth his wife" Don Landry> (1) I was relying on Gregory A. Wood's newer (1995) publication called A GUIDE TO THE ACADIANS IN MARYLAND IN THE EIGHTEENTH AND NINETEENTH CENTURIES; pp. 140-141. There, he does not put "his wife" after Elizabeth's name, nor does he treat her as he does the married women in his other household entries, where in most, he gives the maiden name of the wife, with the indicator "nee" for "born as." (2) I would like to see the original document of this Maryland census. I understand it was included in a letter to the Duke of Nivernois, dated July 7, 1763, "Au Duc de Nivernois," in AFFAIRES ETRANGERES, CORRESPONDANCE POLITIQUE, ANGLETERRE; vol. 450 [CDL], pp. [ff.] 438-446. Can someone on the list give me directions for obtaining a good copy of the original? Is it on microfilm, can it be ordered? (3) <Saturin is not listed, although he would be 19 to 21 years old at this time. Maybe as you suggested, he died young> Again relying on Gregory A. Wood, A GUIDE TO THE ACADIANS IN MARYLAND IN THE EIGHTEENTH AND NINETEENTH CENTURIES; 1755-1899; Baltimore, Gateway Press, 1995; p. 140. Saturin LANDRY, on 14 Jan 1766, was with Firmin LANDRY as witness to the Maryland marriage of Amant BABIN & Anastasie LANDRY (Reference: Mosley). On 29 Apr 1773 at Pointe Coupee, LA he was most probably the Saturin who was witness to the baptism of Hubert LANDRY, son of Firmin [his father] & [2nd wife] Theotiste TIBAUDOT (PCP-2, part 2, 150). So Saturnin? probably died after Apr 1773, but possibly before the militia lists were made in 1774 and 1777. I find no record of a marriage or children for him. Karen Theriot Reader KATheriot@aol.com

Note message sent to me by Stanley just today concerning Saturin Landry. RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Re: More Landrys? Date: 10/20/03 4:09:40 PM Central Daylight Time From: cajun@thecajuns.com (Cajun) To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Below are excerpts from the Acadian Memorial Database. The last info is the 1777 muster roll. Roger Rozendal and I had checked a while back and couldn't find any other information re marriages or death in the SWLR or the DOBR records. He wasn't shown in the 1801 probate of Firmin Landry's estate. I suspect that he was one of the soldiers who went with Declouet in Feb. 1779 to Pointe Coupee to fight under Galvez and was killed. Note the Mother's name! Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com Mother: Élizabeth Françoise Thibodeau Father: Firmin Landry Louisiana: Identified in the 1771 census of the Attakapas District as a sixteen-year-old member of his father's household. The June 20, 1774, muster roll indicates that he was a fusilier in the Attakapas District militia. His name is rendered as Saturnine Landry in the June 20, 1774, list. The May 10, 1777, muster roll indicates that he was a fusilier in the Attakapas District militia. His name is rendered as Sinturnin Landry in the May 10, 1777 list. Sources: Census of the Attakapas District, 1771, AGI, PPC, 188C:43vo; Hébert, Southwest Louisiana Records, 1:344; Arsenault, Histoire et généalogie, 6:2522; Muster Roll for the Attakapas District Militia Unit, June 20, 1774, AGI, PPC, legajo 161; Muster Roll for the Attakapas District Militia Unit, May 10, 1777, AGI, PPC, legajo 161.

Thank you so much. There has been so little written about Saturin. This is the first I have heard anything as complete as this. Thank you again. Don

Don, Stanley, Just an idea, but could Saturin have joined a religious order. By age 19 he was certainly old enough to undertake religious studies. Do your LA census records cover residents of various religious institutions, including the grand seminary? Regards, Maurice http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=maurice_a_l ----- Message d'origine ----- De : Don2717@aol.com À : ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Envoyé : lundi 20 octobre, 2003 15:47 Objet : Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Re: More Landrys? In a message dated 10/20/03 10:46:50 AM Central Daylight Time, cajun@thecajuns.com writes: << My apologies. I keep forgetting about Saturin who was born about 1755. He apparently died shortly after arriving in Louisiana. Stanley LeBlanc =============== Firmin Landry is listed, along with his son Joseph Landry in the Acadian members of the militia at the Attakapas in 1774 and 1777. (Bona Arcenault - Tome 2 - Attakapas et Opelousas) Note: Saturin is not listed, although he would be 19 to 21 years old at this time. Maybe as you suggested, he died young. As stated above, he apparently never married. Does anyone know when he died??? Don Landry

In a message dated 10/20/03 4:25:13 PM Central Daylight Time, apberges@houston.rr.com writes: << I am sooo confused... please help me straighten this out.Was Firmin Landry married twice? YES. To Elizabeth Francoise Thibodeaux? YES. And toTheotiste Thibaudau? YES. And if he was, did he have children by both wives? YES. Was Theotiste married before also? YES. Also does anyone know the parents of Elizabeth and Theotiste? Françoise dit Elizabeth Thibodeau's parents are unknown. Some think that she and Théotiste were related, but there is no proof to this theory. Théotiste Thibodeau's parents were Charles Thibodeau and Brigette Brau (Breau). How many children did Firmin actually have? Firmin and Françoise dit Elizabeth Thibodeau had 4 children. Joseph LANDRY, Saturin LANDRY, Eliene LANDRY, M.- Magdeleine LANDRY Firmin and Théotiste Thibodeau had 9 children. Françoise LANDRY , Hubert LANDRY, Helene LANDRY, Rosalie LANDRY, Valentin LANDRY, Marie LANDRY , Alexandre Anselm LANDRY , Agnes LANDRY , Marguerite LANDRY Thanks in advance for helping me with this. YOU ARE WELCOME Don Landry

My deepest appreciation to you all for such quick responses to my dilemma. I now understand more clearly. I really love this list. It is so very informative and documented in most cases. Alice in Crosby Texas

I'm open to the possibility that Elisabeth shown on the 1763 census was a sister and that Francoise died before 1763 because Marie-Madeleine, the youngest child of Firmin and Francoise was born in 1759 and most Acadians woulf have had 1-2 more by 1763. The researchers who prepared the Acadian Memorial data base could have assumed that Elisabeth was Elisabeth-Francoise. All the actual records in SWLR show Francoise rather than Elisabeth-Francoise or Elisabeth. More research! Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: KATheriot@aol.com [mailto:KATheriot@aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 5:20 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Re: More Landrys? Don and List: I have some responses to your questions: <How do you account for the statement: "LANDRY Firmin, Elizabeth his wife" Don Landry> (1) I was relying on Gregory A. Wood's newer (1995) publication called A GUIDE TO THE ACADIANS IN MARYLAND IN THE EIGHTEENTH AND NINETEENTH CENTURIES; pp. 140-141. There, he does not put "his wife" after Elizabeth's name, nor does he treat her as he does the married women in his other household entries, where in most, he gives the maiden name of the wife, with the indicator "nee" for "born as." (2) I would like to see the original document of this Maryland census. I understand it was included in a letter to the Duke of Nivernois, dated July 7, 1763, "Au Duc de Nivernois," in AFFAIRES ETRANGERES, CORRESPONDANCE POLITIQUE, ANGLETERRE; vol. 450 [CDL], pp. [ff.] 438-446. Can someone on the list give me directions for obtaining a good copy of the original? Is it on microfilm, can it be ordered? (3) <Saturin is not listed, although he would be 19 to 21 years old at this time. Maybe as you suggested, he died young> Again relying on Gregory A. Wood, A GUIDE TO THE ACADIANS IN MARYLAND IN THE EIGHTEENTH AND NINETEENTH CENTURIES; 1755-1899; Baltimore, Gateway Press, 1995; p. 140. Saturin LANDRY, on 14 Jan 1766, was with Firmin LANDRY as witness to the Maryland marriage of Amant BABIN & Anastasie LANDRY (Reference: Mosley). On 29 Apr 1773 at Pointe Coupee, LA he was most probably the Saturin who was witness to the baptism of Hubert LANDRY, son of Firmin [his father] & [2nd wife] Theotiste TIBAUDOT (PCP-2, part 2, 150). So Saturnin? probably died after Apr 1773, but possibly before the militia lists were made in 1774 and 1777. I find no record of a marriage or children for him. Karen Theriot Reader KATheriot@aol.com ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.acadian -cajun This is a link to the Acadian-Cajun Message Board at RootsWeb. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237