Aw, c'mon. "Cajun" is not a perjorative and Bill Press, a wordsmith, knows that. "Cajun" refers to an ethnic group. Try it out. How many cookbooks have "Cajun" in the title? How many cookbooks have "nigger" or "kyke" in the title? James Carville refers to himself on national TV as a "Ragin Cajun." Does Larry King call himself a "kyke?" We can easily recognize "Cajun music" and "soul music" as distinctive music of ethnic or regional origin, but "kyke" or "nigger," similarly used, are used to demean. Our family recently learned that the name we all wear probably came from a great-great "Cajun" grandfather and we are happy and pleased to refer to him, and to ourselves, that way. ----- Original Message ----- From: ASCalman@aol.com<mailto:ASCalman@aol.com> To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 12:39 PM Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Child abuse, Cajun-style I thought the list should see this from the former head of California's Democratic Party, former CrossFire on CNN, etc. The content is not my concern, it is the title...published in the San Diego Union-Tribune and probably many other papers around the country. Text follows: Child abuse, Cajun-style Bill Press Press a political analyst for MSNBC is author of "Spin This!" He can be reached via e-mail at <A HREF="mailto:BillPress@aol.com">BillPress@aol.com</A<mailto:BillPress@aol.com">BillPress@aol.com</A>>. December 5, 2003 I have a confession to make: I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU. That doesn't mean I always agree with that bunch of lefties. Concerned about the easy access for children, for example, I never bought into their broad defense of pornography on the Internet. But I stood up and applauded when they forced Roy Moore to move his monument to the Ten Commandments out of the Alabama state courthouse. I love the Constitution. I treasure the Bill of Rights. I recognize that federal and state governments, under both Democratic and Republican leaders – and especially this administration – are constantly trying to chip away at our freedom. So I love the fact that there is one organization whose sole purpose, night and day, is to fight for and defend the basic rights of all Americans, liberal and conservative. Yes, even the rights of a 7-year-old kid from Louisiana. Here's one more case where the ACLU is dead right. Call it child abuse, Cajun-style. The ACLU's against it. We all should be. It happened at Gallet Elementary School in Youngsville, La. Second-grader Marcus McLaurin was lined up with his fellow students for recess when a friend asked about his mother and father. In a scene that's happening more and more in schoolyards across the country, Marcus said he didn't have a mother and father, he had two mothers. Understandably confused – remember, we're talking about two 7-year-olds here – his friend asked why he had two moms. Marcus said, because my mom is "gay." When his friend still didn't understand, Marcus explained: "Gay is when a girl likes another girl." Now, let's stop right there. If you ask me, this kid showed a lot of cool under fire. He also showed that he'd been taught by his mother how to deal with this situation. And that she'd given him just enough, but not too much, information: all a 7-year-old needed to know or tell other people. Seems to me both mother and son got it just right. But that's not how school officials reacted. His teacher berated him in front of the entire class, telling him "gay" was a bad word he should never say again – and sent him to the principal's office. From there he was sent to the school's behavioral problems clinic, where he was ordered to write 100 times: "I will never say the word 'gay' in school again." What a horrible thing to do to that little kid! Publicly humiliated by his teacher in front of his classmates. And then forced to repudiate his mother in writing. He didn't even know what he had done wrong – and, in fact, he had done nothing wrong at all. How could an elementary school teacher and principal be so cruel, and so ignorant? While poor little Marcus was being tortured, authorities turned on his mother. She received a phone call saying her son was being punished for using a foul word: a word so foul, the principal told her, he dared not utter it over the phone. Marcus would bring home a note, he said, spelling out his crime. What planet are these people living on? In case school officials in Youngsville, La., don't know it yet, "gay" is not a bad word. Neither is "homosexual." And neither is "lesbian." Enter the ACLU, with a very reasonable request. They're not demanding the teacher be fired, or the principal sent to jail. They're simply requesting that the school erase this incident from Marcus' disciplinary record, that teachers never again prevent him from exercising his freedom of speech (or talking about his mom) and that school officials apologize to him and his mother. Frankly, I think the ACLU is letting them off the hook too easily. They should make two other demands of school officials. First, they should require the teacher and principal to spend a couple of days in New Orleans, Atlanta, Miami, Chicago, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle, New York, Boston, Washington or any other American city where they might actually meet a real live gay man or lesbian and discover that they don't look any different, don't have horns and don't have one eye in the middle of their forehead. Then, on their way back to Youngsville, the chastened school officials should have to write 1,000 times: "Gay is not a four-letter word." Let Marcus have his revenge. Copyright 2003 Union-Tribune Publishing Co.

Also executed was Jean-Baptiste Anne Augustin De Bienville Payen-Noyan, the son-in-law of the Executed Nicolas Chauvin-Lafreniere and Marguerite Catherine Hubert-Bellair. Jean Baptiste was a great-nephew of Bienville. Nicolas and Marguertie Catherine were 1C1R through the Chauvin line (Marguerite's maternal grandmother was Michelle Chauvin, and her paternal grandmother was Barbe Chauvin) > From: "Cajun" <cajun@thecajuns.com> > Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:09:24 -0600 > To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] The Rebellion of 1768 > Resent-From: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:45:18 -0700 > > Some Acadians joined in the Rebellion of 1768, but none were executed or > imprisoned. > > The following individuals were executed by firing squad on October 25, > 1769: Nicolas Chauvin de la Freniere, Pierre Caresse, Pierre Marquis and > Joseph Milhet. > > Balthasar Mazan and Julien-Jerome Doucet received 10 years in prison; > and Jean Milhet, Pierre Poupet and Pierre Hardy de Boisblanc received > six years in prison. > > A good book on the 1768 Rebellion is "Denis-Nicolas Foucault and the New > Orleans Rebellion of 1768" by Carl A. Brasseaux. > > Stanley LeBlanc > http://www.thecajuns.com > > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/ACADIAN-CAJUN.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe > or unsubscribe and contact admin. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Everyone, I am also a member of a great Quebec Researchers List and some time back the Acadians in Canada were mentioned who are participating in this effort as well. Many of the researchers on this list are also reporting the news. :-) This is typical: "Here in PEI, the Royal Proclamation has been reported all day long on the radio. It seems that our Federal cabinet approved the Royal Proc. and it will be signed next week by the Governor General. One of our local historian authors and President of the Miscouche Museum board, David Le Gallant was involved in bringing the matter up before our politicians and ultimately to the Queen a couple of years ago." So I guess that it helps to gang up on them huh? Congratulations to all who bring this about. Andy Scott

I thought the list should see this from the former head of California's Democratic Party, former CrossFire on CNN, etc. The content is not my concern, it is the title...published in the San Diego Union-Tribune and probably many other papers around the country. Text follows: Child abuse, Cajun-style Bill Press Press a political analyst for MSNBC is author of "Spin This!" He can be reached via e-mail at <A HREF="mailto:BillPress@aol.com">BillPress@aol.com</A>. December 5, 2003 I have a confession to make: I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU. That doesn't mean I always agree with that bunch of lefties. Concerned about the easy access for children, for example, I never bought into their broad defense of pornography on the Internet. But I stood up and applauded when they forced Roy Moore to move his monument to the Ten Commandments out of the Alabama state courthouse. I love the Constitution. I treasure the Bill of Rights. I recognize that federal and state governments, under both Democratic and Republican leaders – and especially this administration – are constantly trying to chip away at our freedom. So I love the fact that there is one organization whose sole purpose, night and day, is to fight for and defend the basic rights of all Americans, liberal and conservative. Yes, even the rights of a 7-year-old kid from Louisiana. Here's one more case where the ACLU is dead right. Call it child abuse, Cajun-style. The ACLU's against it. We all should be. It happened at Gallet Elementary School in Youngsville, La. Second-grader Marcus McLaurin was lined up with his fellow students for recess when a friend asked about his mother and father. In a scene that's happening more and more in schoolyards across the country, Marcus said he didn't have a mother and father, he had two mothers. Understandably confused – remember, we're talking about two 7-year-olds here – his friend asked why he had two moms. Marcus said, because my mom is "gay." When his friend still didn't understand, Marcus explained: "Gay is when a girl likes another girl." Now, let's stop right there. If you ask me, this kid showed a lot of cool under fire. He also showed that he'd been taught by his mother how to deal with this situation. And that she'd given him just enough, but not too much, information: all a 7-year-old needed to know or tell other people. Seems to me both mother and son got it just right. But that's not how school officials reacted. His teacher berated him in front of the entire class, telling him "gay" was a bad word he should never say again – and sent him to the principal's office. From there he was sent to the school's behavioral problems clinic, where he was ordered to write 100 times: "I will never say the word 'gay' in school again." What a horrible thing to do to that little kid! Publicly humiliated by his teacher in front of his classmates. And then forced to repudiate his mother in writing. He didn't even know what he had done wrong – and, in fact, he had done nothing wrong at all. How could an elementary school teacher and principal be so cruel, and so ignorant? While poor little Marcus was being tortured, authorities turned on his mother. She received a phone call saying her son was being punished for using a foul word: a word so foul, the principal told her, he dared not utter it over the phone. Marcus would bring home a note, he said, spelling out his crime. What planet are these people living on? In case school officials in Youngsville, La., don't know it yet, "gay" is not a bad word. Neither is "homosexual." And neither is "lesbian." Enter the ACLU, with a very reasonable request. They're not demanding the teacher be fired, or the principal sent to jail. They're simply requesting that the school erase this incident from Marcus' disciplinary record, that teachers never again prevent him from exercising his freedom of speech (or talking about his mom) and that school officials apologize to him and his mother. Frankly, I think the ACLU is letting them off the hook too easily. They should make two other demands of school officials. First, they should require the teacher and principal to spend a couple of days in New Orleans, Atlanta, Miami, Chicago, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle, New York, Boston, Washington or any other American city where they might actually meet a real live gay man or lesbian and discover that they don't look any different, don't have horns and don't have one eye in the middle of their forehead. Then, on their way back to Youngsville, the chastened school officials should have to write 1,000 times: "Gay is not a four-letter word." Let Marcus have his revenge. Copyright 2003 Union-Tribune Publishing Co.

Posted with permission of the List Administrator The medical researchers have requested our assistance in identifying possible subjects for this very important study. They have isolated the defective receptor gene and identified it as coming from one of our ancestors. The result of this discovery and the outcome of the research have far reaching and benficial implications for future generations of French Canadians/Acadians. The French Canadian Genealogical Society of Connecticut is committed to helping them with their research and will utilize all of its resources in the quest to identify the original carrier. If at all possible, please consider becoming a part of this study. Thanks much and your grandchildren thank you..... Bernadette D. Meunier French Canadian Genealogical Society of Connecticut www.fcgsc.org For immediate posting on The French-Canadian Genealogical Society of Connecticut Web Site www.fcgsc.org Contact: Paul D. Thompson, M. D. Director, Preventive Cardiology & Cholesterol Management Center Hartford Hospital 1-800-697-9155 High cholesterol levels: The French-Canadian Connection Many French-Canadians carry the defective gene for the "LDL cholesterol receptor," giving them a greater chance of developing heart disease. In the usual American population, one-in-500 people carry a defective LDL receptor gene and have very high cholesterol levels, but one-in-50 French-Canadians carries the defective gene. This is because one of the first 8,000 settlers of Quebec Province carried a defective gene for the LDL cholesterol receptor. The LDL cholesterol receptor sits on the surface of the liver and clears the bad or LDL cholesterol from the blood. The defect in this receptor prevents the liver from lowering the blood cholesterol level. Also, because cholesterol does not enter the liver as easily, patients with the defective LDL receptor gene overproduce cholesterol. A combination of overproduction and under clearance produces remarkably higher cholesterol levels in many French-Canadians. The Section of Preventive Cardiology at Hartford Hospital is studying a new cholesterol lowering medication in patients with defective LDL receptors. The study will compare Lipitor alone, one of the most powerful cholesterol-lowering drugs, with the combination of Lipitor plus a new medication which decreases the LDL cholesterol modestly, but increases HDL, or the good cholesterol level, much more than Lipitor. This new medication is not available except in this study. The goal of the study is to see if the combination of drugs is better than Lipitor alone at cleaning cholesterol out of the carotid arteries. The carotid arteries are located in the neck and the cholesterol thickness of these arteries can be easily visualized with a probe placed on the skin. All patients enrolled in the study will be treated with a cholesterol lowering medication, either Lipitor alone or the combination of Lipitor and the new medication. Participants in the study will receive free medical checkups, carotid artery imaging, blood work, electrocardiograms, dietary counseling, and a payment for their time and effort. Interested patients and then family members with high cholesterol levels can learn about the study by calling the cardiac nurses running this study, Brenda Foxen at 1-800-697-9155 or (860) 545-1792, or Marilyn Siwy (860) 545-1794. Please give serious consideration to participating in this study. Lowering your cholesterol level may benefit you, your family members, and others of French-Canadian descent.

The majority of Acadians were farmers, hardly a threat to anyone, the threat was in the mind of the governing body. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cajun" <cajun@thecajuns.com> To: <ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:12 PM Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] The Acadian Exile in Historical Perspective > The Acadian Explusion was a cruel and unnecessary event but we should > consider the events that were occuring at that time. > > The Acadians had been British Subjects since 1713 but insisted upon > their status as "French Neutrals." When the Seven Years War [known as > the French and Indian War in North America]broke out, the English were > faced with nearly 15,000 armed Acadians whose loyalty was at question. > When Fort Beausejour was captured, the British found Acadians. They said > that the French had forced them to defend the fort. From a British > perspective, these men could be "forced" to attack them as the war > continued. France and England were fighting for supremacy in North > America and history documents that the French were trying to enlist the > Acadians. > > We should also remember that countries claimed land by right of > discovery and conquest! England based its claim to Nova Scotia on a > discovery by Cabot [historians have shown that Cabot was no where near > Nova Scotia] and then won it by conquest in 1713. France made no serious > attempt no reclaim Acadia between 1713-1755 because it had its hands > full elsewhere. > > France GAVE all of Colonial Louisiana to Spain in 1762 to prevent it > from going to the English. The French Subjects in Louisiana had no say > over their fate and weren't even informed until 1766! The First Spanish > Governor was forcefully removed in 1768 with help from some Acadians. > France chose not to support an appeal for the return of Louisiana to > France; and the Spanish sent O'Reilly who excuted some of the leaders of > the Rebellion [the 1st Rebellion in North America]. > > In 1802, Napoleon forced Spain to retrocede Louisiana to France in a > secret treaty! Napoleon planned to use Louisiana to supply Haiti but he > started a war with England and had to sell all of Louisiana for $12M. In > the space of a few months, Louisiana went from Spain to France to the US > - all without any input from the people! > > We need to remember that what is at issue in the Proclamation is the > removal of the status of "traitors" that was placed upon the Acadians. > The Proclamation will accept responsibility for the exile of British > Subjects who had a legal status of "French Neutrals" and weren't > traitors. > > The Acadian Explusion was not one of England's finest moments but, with > all due respect, it cannot be compared to what happened to the Jewish > People in World War II. > > Stanley LeBlanc > http://www.thecajuns.com > > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.acadian-cajun > This is a link to the Acadian-Cajun Message Board at RootsWeb. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Nicely put Bernadette, I couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you, Linda Louviere d'Amours In a message dated 12/4/2003 3:49:20 PM Central Standard Time, bmeunier@sbcglobal.net writes: All of this heat regarding the tragedy which befell our ancestors is surely strong commentary......the passions linger 250 years after the fact.....(the emotions of that time are unthinkable).....but no matter what attitude we choose to take regarding the current developments vis a vis the queen of England, WE HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN what they went through.....and that is most important......I welcome the discourse, and choose not to view it as arguing.....we owe that much to those who lived through the ordeal and dispite the greatest of odds, prevailed so that we here might honor their memory by the free _expression of our sentiments....honest sons and daugthers of Acadia...... Bernadette D. Meunier French Canadian Genealogical Society of Connecticut Tolland, CT. www.fcgsc.org

All of this heat regarding the tragedy which befell our ancestors is surely strong commentary......the passions linger 250 years after the fact.....(the emotions of that time are unthinkable).....but no matter what attitude we choose to take regarding the current developments vis a vis the queen of England, WE HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN what they went through.....and that is most important......I welcome the discourse, and choose not to view it as arguing.....we owe that much to those who lived through the ordeal and dispite the greatest of odds, prevailed so that we here might honor their memory by the free _expression of our sentiments....honest sons and daugthers of Acadia...... Bernadette D. Meunier French Canadian Genealogical Society of Connecticut Tolland, CT. www.fcgsc.org Cajun <cajun@thecajuns.com> wrote:The Acadian Explusion was a cruel and unnecessary event but we should consider the events that were occuring at that time. The Acadians had been British Subjects since 1713 but insisted upon their status as "French Neutrals." When the Seven Years War [known as the French and Indian War in North America]broke out, the English were faced with nearly 15,000 armed Acadians whose loyalty was at question. When Fort Beausejour was captured, the British found Acadians. They said that the French had forced them to defend the fort. From a British perspective, these men could be "forced" to attack them as the war continued. France and England were fighting for supremacy in North America and history documents that the French were trying to enlist the Acadians. We should also remember that countries claimed land by right of discovery and conquest! England based its claim to Nova Scotia on a discovery by Cabot [historians have shown that Cabot was no where near Nova Scotia] and then won it by conquest in 1713. France made no serious attempt no reclaim Acadia between 1713-1755 because it had its hands full elsewhere. France GAVE all of Colonial Louisiana to Spain in 1762 to prevent it from going to the English. The French Subjects in Louisiana had no say over their fate and weren't even informed until 1766! The First Spanish Governor was forcefully removed in 1768 with help from some Acadians. France chose not to support an appeal for the return of Louisiana to France; and the Spanish sent O'Reilly who excuted some of the leaders of the Rebellion [the 1st Rebellion in North America]. In 1802, Napoleon forced Spain to retrocede Louisiana to France in a secret treaty! Napoleon planned to use Louisiana to supply Haiti but he started a war with England and had to sell all of Louisiana for $12M. In the space of a few months, Louisiana went from Spain to France to the US - all without any input from the people! We need to remember that what is at issue in the Proclamation is the removal of the status of "traitors" that was placed upon the Acadians. The Proclamation will accept responsibility for the exile of British Subjects who had a legal status of "French Neutrals" and weren't traitors. The Acadian Explusion was not one of England's finest moments but, with all due respect, it cannot be compared to what happened to the Jewish People in World War II. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.acadian-cajun This is a link to the Acadian-Cajun Message Board at RootsWeb. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Some Acadians joined in the Rebellion of 1768, but none were executed or imprisoned. The following individuals were executed by firing squad on October 25, 1769: Nicolas Chauvin de la Freniere, Pierre Caresse, Pierre Marquis and Joseph Milhet. Balthasar Mazan and Julien-Jerome Doucet received 10 years in prison; and Jean Milhet, Pierre Poupet and Pierre Hardy de Boisblanc received six years in prison. A good book on the 1768 Rebellion is "Denis-Nicolas Foucault and the New Orleans Rebellion of 1768" by Carl A. Brasseaux. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com

What's interesting about the Second Acadian Expulsion is that it means something completely different to the families that had fled to the mouth of the St. John River in NB. In 1701, the population of this St. John settlement was only about 50 people. In 1732, a larger group of Acadians, fleeing the British forces who had taken possession of Nova Scotia under the Treaty of Utrecht, settled in the area where Old Government House in Fredericton stands today, and called their community "Sainte-Anne des Pays-Bas (Ste. Anne's Point). A 1733 French census counted 83 people in 15 families. By 1755 and the Grand Derangement, approximately two thousand Acadians were scattered over several small villages along the river -- at Grimrose, Jemseg, Nashwack, Ecoupag, and Ste. Anne. Despite constant British harassment, the lower St. John Valley remained the only significant Acadian settlement in New Brunswick at the time. In part, the community survived because of a combination of the resourcefulness of the Acadian settlers, their strong friendship with the local Native Americans, and the presence of the French military leader Charles des Champs de Boishébert. In 1749, the French authorities at Quebec sent 30 men to the St. John River under Boishébert's leadership to take possession of the territory at its mouth and prevent the English from settling there. He maintained a fort near Grimrose, and many of the settlers (and refugees from other parts of Acadia) settled in the area under his protection. An accomplished woodsman and sailor, Boishébert was a major thorn in the side of the British and he was involved in the only major success by the Acadians against the British. In 1755, the British transport Pembroke became the only Deportation ship ever captured by the Acadians, and this ship and its settlers remained in the St. John River community under Boishébert's protection. General Monckton continued to raid the area, however, and eventually forced out Boishébert. As Monckton's Rangers raided and burned down the Acadian villages, they massacred a number of settlers they caught -- armed or unarmed. Ste-Anne was torched, and the surviving settlers fled to the forests once again, to live in hiding for the next eight years. With the assistance of Boishébert and their local Malecite allies, the Acadians managed to survive. In 1761, it is reported that as many as 40 Acadians still lived in the area of Ste-Anne. The 1763 Treaty of Paris allowed many deportees to return to their homes, but on arrival they discovered that their old lands were now inhabited by English colonists, and Ste-Anne had become Fredericton. Determined to live in peace, they moved farther up the St. John valley to Ecoupag, the French Village, and Kennebeccassis. The exile community here was fairly successful for a time. The Acadians cleared land and settled down, hoping to have their land grants approved by the British government, now that the war with France was over. Some of the more experienced couriers de bois served as "express carriers" -- essentially mail carriers who kept open the lines of communication between Quebec and Halifax. As such, they were quite familiar with the waters of the upper St. John River, and the fertile valley on either side. This knowledge would prove critical. In 1785, English Loyalists, fleeing American territory in the aftermath of the American Revolution, would forcibly evict the Acadians from their new homes. This is still called the Deuxième Derangement. The government officials in Quebec and New Brunswick, despite earlier promises of protection, offered no redress. Some of the displaced families included: Simon Joseph Daigle, Louis Mercure, Paul Mazerolle, Mathurin Mazerolle, François Hébert, François Godin, Jean Baptiste Daigle, Baptiste Viennaux, Louis Lejeune, Pierre Pinette, Joseph King (Roi), Alexis Thibodeau, the two Martin families, Pierre Mazerolle and Mathurin Gotreau. Louis Mercure and Simon Joseph Daigle, as experienced "express carriers", organized the 24 leading families, including the Martin, Cyr, Lizotte and Dubé families, to petition the government for permission to sell their lands for the promise of two hundred acres on the upper St. John River to the head of each family. Determined to live unaccosted, the families traveled up the St. John Valley, beyond Grand Falls -- where the British ships could not follow -- to the area called "the Madawaska", the Native American word for "the Land of the Porcupine..." More than half of the Acadian colony of the lower St. John would leave within the year for the Madawaska settlement. Others moved to Memramcook, Miramichi, Tracadie, Caraquet and Pisiquit. In June of 1785, upon setting foot on the banks of the St. John River at St. David, Maine (near the modern town of Madawaska), Joseph Daigle directed the erecting of a large wooden cross at their landing site -- this was the first Acadian Cross. The Acadian refugees had finally found a permanent home, after 30 years of persecution and flight. By 1790, the British would finally affirm the land claims for the Acadian families on the banks of the St. John. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of slow downloads and busy signals? Get a high-speed Internet connection! Comparison-shop your local high-speed providers here. https://broadband.msn.com

On October 28, 1755, after being held prisoners "under house arrest" for 5 to 6 weeks, Firmin Landry and his first wife, Françoise Thibodeau, along with their first two children Joseph Landry bn 1750 and Saturin Landry, bn 1755, were led from Fort Edward to boats at the foot of the hill, to be embarked aboard the ship Ranger anchored in the Minas Basin. Firmin and his family were sent to Maryland, where they remained in exile until 1766-67 before coming to Louisiana. Firmin established at the Attakapas (St. Martinville) and when he died in 1801 (34 years later) he had accuired quite an estate even at todays standards. 1801 - Entry # 231 - Firmin Landry - On the fourth day of February, 1801, I Don Migel Bernado Barriere, curate of Saint Martin, Church of the juristiction of the Attakapas district submitted to the grave in the field (sto) the church cemetery of said church, the body of Firmin Landry, adult of the age of Sixty and ten and six years; the son of Alexandre and - - - - -, native of Acadia, and husband of Theotiste Thibodau. Because he died suddenly, he did not make testament and did not receive the last rites (Sacrament) of the church. signed: Migel Bernado Barriere, curate Inventory of Firmin Landry (SMOA 20?63) was opened March 1801. SUCCESSION OF FIRMIN LANDRY The inventory of the items in Firmin Landry's estate is found in the St. Martin courthouse Original Acts Book 20, no. 63 and was opened 23 March 1801. The documents are all in French. Following is an English translation: Today, March 23, 1801, I Charles deBlanc, Capt of the Army, Civil and Military Commander of Attakapas and its dependencies, Adjutant, Notary Public and writer ______ . Having been informed of the death of FIRMIN LANDRY which occured after last February 2, I was transported to his place to proceed with the Inventory. To __ the rights of THEOTISTE THIBODAUX, wife of the deceased, that of the major children and minors, descending from the three marriages namely JOSEPH LANDRY, deceased, leaving ten children; Helene, deceased, leaving one child, who are heirs through representation of their father and mother of the first marriage; Anne Gaudin, widow of RenT Broussard, today wife of Noble Wilkins, legitimate daughter of the surviving widow; and of the second marriage FRANCOISE, HUBERT, HELENE, ROSALIE, VALENTINE, ALEXANDRE, AGNES, and MARGUERITE LANDRY all heirs to equal portions of the estate of deceased FIRMIN LANDRY and THEOTISTE THIBODAUX. HUBERT LANDRY was elected as tutor (guardian) for the minors who were ROSALIE, VALENTINE, ALEXANDRE, AGNES, and MARGUERITE ......... INVENTORY: Thirty arpents of land on each side of Vermilion Bayou at Grand Pointe, each heir receiving two arpents on each side. Four arpents on the east side of Bayou Teche (this would be the place at Lake Fausse Pointe) (A few items found in 23 pages .....) Value (piastres) They found a bad house, a store house & enclosed yard 50.00 Five work oxen 70.00 Seven beeves and bulls of 2 yrs. 35.00 Three small bulls of one year 9.00 Eleven gentled cows 110.00 One horse (carriage) 60.00 Two carriage horses 80.00 One horse of 3 yrs. 50.00 Two mares of 2 yrs. & their "followers" 40.00 One "potre" & one filly 20.00 One bad wagon, three old axes & one master key 21.00 One service gun 10.00 One sye 2.00 One devil chain & a bad millstone 6.00 Six (bolts oe peices) printed cotton 12.4 A pasol of pink silk 6.4 One peice Royal ? 25.00 One peice of Muslin 14.00 One pair of shoes 2.6 One peice of Bretagne 3.00 Six handkerchiefs 3.00 One gun 30.00 One quart of salt 3.5 A shovel, an axe, & a knife 7.6 Four pounds of powder & 25 pounds of lead 8.5?1/2 _________________ Estimation of total inventory: 1,106 Piastres 3 bits Firmin's son Joseph also my ancestor married Marie-Anne Melancon and also established in the same area. When he died, he too had accquired a sizeable estate. SUCCESSION OF JOSEPH LANDRY The following abstract is taken from St. Martin Parish Courthouse records, OA 19?142: "..... 10th day of month of September of the year 1800, Louis Charles deBlanc, Captain of the Armies, Commandant of Civil & Military of the Post of the Attakapas and dependancies.... at the request of Marie Melancon, widow of Joseph Landry, to wed second to Thomas Pare .... (go) to her residence on the Bayou Vermilion .... process of inventory, estinmate of the estate entered to .... Marie Melanton and the late JOSEPH LANDRY his wife for the preservation of the rights of the children: AGRICOLE, 20 yrs; Marie Magdelaine, 18 yrs.; ROSALIE; ANASTAZIE; CIRILE; JOSEPH DENIS; PANTALEON; SERAPHIE; MAXIMIEN; DORALISE; minors of legitimate birth of marriage .... HUBERT LANDRY, uncle, is name "curator" of the minors ..... ".....from the inventory of goods and property: Thirty arpents on Bayou Vermilion on which you will find a house "in bad state" .... by FIRMIN LANDRY.... Six arpents on Bayou Piraud (?) in front of Pierre Dugat ... Five arpents on "Partie Orientale" on Vermilion and one arpent situated between Armant Landry and Olivier Landry ... a negro named Antoine 50 years old 25 cows with calves 28 cows without calves and bulls of 2 yrs. 5 bulls 22 bulls 1 pairs of work oxen 13 young bulls of 3 yrs. 9 young bulls 4 gentled horses and one young mare 2 old wagons 3 wash pots 3 beds with bedding a buggy "in bad state" an old pirogue an old rifle This is what I meant by the Acadian exiles who eventually settled in Louisina were able to thrive, probably better than their cousins that established in the Canadian Maritimes Don

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If you want to argue about this matter, please do it privately. Thank you ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley" <s.belliveau@ns.sympatico.ca> To: <ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Re: Celebration of Expulsion Proclamation > Perhaps I should just leave the list if this is the opinion it shares though > somehow I don't think it is. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Don2717@aol.com> > To: <ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:58 AM > Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Re: Celebration of Expulsion Proclamation > > > > In a message dated 12/4/03 8:29:42 AM Central Standard Time, > > s.belliveau@ns.sympatico.ca writes: > > > > > I can't believe how arrogant, ignorant and disrespectful this is. I > usually > > > just lurk but this is a bit much. Perhaps your attitude would be > different > > > Don if you had been on one of those ships or living in the woods with > no > > > provisions 250 yrs ago. > > > > Response: > > > > No one has relived the pain and misery suffered by our ancestors more than > I > > have. In fact I have been accused being obcessed with the expulsion. > > > > I have often been referred to as arrogant as well as opinionated, a "smart > > ass" and some terms worse. > > > > You also wrote: > > > > "I could go on but my mother always told me if you have nothing good to > say > > to keep quiet.. therefore.." > > > > ==== > > Maybe you should heed your mother's advice. > > > > Don :-) > > > > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.acadian-caj un > > This is a link to the Acadian-Cajun Message Board at RootsWeb. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.acadian-caj un > This is a link to the Acadian-Cajun Message Board at RootsWeb. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.537 / Virus Database: 332 - Release Date: 11/6/2003

Perhaps I should just leave the list if this is the opinion it shares though somehow I don't think it is. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Don2717@aol.com> To: <ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Re: Celebration of Expulsion Proclamation > In a message dated 12/4/03 8:29:42 AM Central Standard Time, > s.belliveau@ns.sympatico.ca writes: > > > I can't believe how arrogant, ignorant and disrespectful this is. I usually > > just lurk but this is a bit much. Perhaps your attitude would be different > > Don if you had been on one of those ships or living in the woods with no > > provisions 250 yrs ago. > > Response: > > No one has relived the pain and misery suffered by our ancestors more than I > have. In fact I have been accused being obcessed with the expulsion. > > I have often been referred to as arrogant as well as opinionated, a "smart > ass" and some terms worse. > > You also wrote: > > "I could go on but my mother always told me if you have nothing good to say > to keep quiet.. therefore.." > > ==== > Maybe you should heed your mother's advice. > > Don :-) > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.acadian-cajun > This is a link to the Acadian-Cajun Message Board at RootsWeb. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Don's note [see excerpt below] implies that most Acadians became large plantation owners. He probably meant to say that a FEW [a VERY FEW!] became Plantation owners [also, the definition of plantation varies!]. Most of those who settled along the Mississippi were forced to sell their land because of laws that required them to pay for levees and other improvements. This is referred to as the Second Acadian Explusion. Most Acadians remained a low-income and poorly-educated "underclass" until modern times. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com ***excerpt from Don Landry's note*** I should have said that the Acadians who eventually settled in Louisiana were given land, an ox or cow, an ax, picks and shovel, seeds and within one or more generations became large plantation owners, because they were free to pursue their dreams in a government friendly atmosphere.

In a message dated 12/4/03 9:04:25 AM Central Standard Time, BoucherT@ummhc.org writes: > I usually don't voice my opinion about things. Canada is not as bad as you > picture it. At least the Canadian citizens have complete medical coverage. > In this country a large percentage of the people cannot afford medical > coverage and only when critical do they go to a doctor. No this is not a > blessing to be ousted from your homeland. My family was part of Canada > until the Aroostok Wars when we became part of the United States. We > weren't asked to be part of the United States. > It is soo poor in this part of Maine that most of the people move away for a > better living. Those who stay live from hand to mouth. I love my country > of birth but my ancestors had no choice. > > Terri B > I knew I would say the wrong thing. I should have elaborated. Yes I know about the national health in Canada. Something we should have here in the United States. I didn't mean to imply that we (Acadian descendants) are better off than the present day Canadian Acadian descendants. I should have said that the Acadians who eventually settled in Louisiana were given land, an ox or cow, an ax, picks and shovel, seeds and within one or more generations became large plantation owners, because they were free to pursue their dreams in a government friendly atmosphere. For a time a lot if not most Acadian exiles enjoyed a much better life than those who remained in a land with a hostile government, often forced to live on very poor land. And to be honest, the Canadian Government continued to exercise the hatred for the French Catholics of both the Acadian as well as the non-Acadian citizens. And it was not until just recently that the French-speaking citizens were given equal status as the Anglos. YES THE EXPULSION (A form of ethnic cleansing) WAS A TERRIBLE INJUSTICE. But the British throne, the governing authority at the time, conducted the Expulsion. Today Canada is a free and independent country (I think), governed by elected officials. Elected officials too govern England, and the British Throne is more of an expensive figurehead, with no authority. Any apology to have merit should come from the governing authority of England with the co-signature of the Queen. No matter what you say about this issue, you will offend someone. For this I apologize, and this is a true heart felt apology, that does not require any footnotes. Don

I can't believe how arrogant, ignorant and disrespectful this is. I usually just lurk but this is a bit much. Perhaps your attitude would be different Don if you had been on one of those ships or living in the woods with no provisions 250 yrs ago. I could go on but my mother always told me if you have nothing good to say to keep quiet.. therefore.. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Don2717@aol.com> To: <ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Re: Celebration of Expulsion Proclamation > So much has passed since then. > > The Acadians were among the troops that soundly beat the British at the > Battle of New Orleans. And as some Historians have said it was difficult to > restrain the Acadians who wanted to charge the British and vent the hatred on those > who had driven them from their homes in their beloved Acadia. > > But we can also be grateful that we, as Americans, enjoy a much more secure > life and lifestyle than many of our cousins to the north enjoy today. You > could almost say that the expulsion was a blessing. > > Don > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.acadian-cajun > This is a link to the Acadian-Cajun Message Board at RootsWeb. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

The Acadian Explusion was a cruel and unnecessary event but we should consider the events that were occuring at that time. The Acadians had been British Subjects since 1713 but insisted upon their status as "French Neutrals." When the Seven Years War [known as the French and Indian War in North America]broke out, the English were faced with nearly 15,000 armed Acadians whose loyalty was at question. When Fort Beausejour was captured, the British found Acadians. They said that the French had forced them to defend the fort. From a British perspective, these men could be "forced" to attack them as the war continued. France and England were fighting for supremacy in North America and history documents that the French were trying to enlist the Acadians. We should also remember that countries claimed land by right of discovery and conquest! England based its claim to Nova Scotia on a discovery by Cabot [historians have shown that Cabot was no where near Nova Scotia] and then won it by conquest in 1713. France made no serious attempt no reclaim Acadia between 1713-1755 because it had its hands full elsewhere. France GAVE all of Colonial Louisiana to Spain in 1762 to prevent it from going to the English. The French Subjects in Louisiana had no say over their fate and weren't even informed until 1766! The First Spanish Governor was forcefully removed in 1768 with help from some Acadians. France chose not to support an appeal for the return of Louisiana to France; and the Spanish sent O'Reilly who excuted some of the leaders of the Rebellion [the 1st Rebellion in North America]. In 1802, Napoleon forced Spain to retrocede Louisiana to France in a secret treaty! Napoleon planned to use Louisiana to supply Haiti but he started a war with England and had to sell all of Louisiana for $12M. In the space of a few months, Louisiana went from Spain to France to the US - all without any input from the people! We need to remember that what is at issue in the Proclamation is the removal of the status of "traitors" that was placed upon the Acadians. The Proclamation will accept responsibility for the exile of British Subjects who had a legal status of "French Neutrals" and weren't traitors. The Acadian Explusion was not one of England's finest moments but, with all due respect, it cannot be compared to what happened to the Jewish People in World War II. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com

I just wanted to thank everyone for there hard work they have been putting in to the ACADIANS history and getting the Qween to even say anything about us its great that she has even said anything.Keep up the good work and Happy Holidays we are Acadians and im happy to be one on this day.People have been working very hard for years to get the Qween to even mention the Acadians.Congrates its a good start in the forgiveness process our ancesters would be very proud. Brian Arseneau PS:Dose your website get over 1000 hits a month for a limited time only we have space on our front page at thundershirts.com if you are interested in swaping links on your front page we will do the same send your url and name of your website put are link on your front page of your website and we will do the same only websites that get at lest 1000 hits per month.Search engines love to see links on websites. Email sales@thundershirts.com Affordable Wildlife t-shirts Exotic animal history click below. <http://www.wolfshirt.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Perry" <jperry@pei.sympatico.ca> To: <ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] British pardon? > Hi, > Here in PEI, the Royal Proclamation has been reported all day long on the > radio. It seems that our Federal cabinet approved the Royal Proc. and it > will be signed next week by the Governor General. > One of our local historian authors and President of the Miscouche Museum > board, David Le Gallant was involved in bringing the matter up before our > politicians and ultimately to the Queen a couple of years ago. I guess the > wheels of government move slowly but they do indeed move. It will be very > interesting to see the document. > > Acadie Vie > > > James > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Maitland" <lindamaitland@telus.net> > To: <ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:53 PM > Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] British pardon? > > > > This is what was reported in the Vancouver Sun today... > > > http://www.canada.com/vancouver/story.asp?id=A7A7CD7C-4C84-42D5-BA5E-F19C760 > > > > > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== > The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 12/4/03 8:29:42 AM Central Standard Time, s.belliveau@ns.sympatico.ca writes: > I can't believe how arrogant, ignorant and disrespectful this is. I usually > just lurk but this is a bit much. Perhaps your attitude would be different > Don if you had been on one of those ships or living in the woods with no > provisions 250 yrs ago. Response: No one has relived the pain and misery suffered by our ancestors more than I have. In fact I have been accused being obcessed with the expulsion. I have often been referred to as arrogant as well as opinionated, a "smart ass" and some terms worse. You also wrote: "I could go on but my mother always told me if you have nothing good to say to keep quiet.. therefore.." ==== Maybe you should heed your mother's advice. Don :-)