In a message dated 12/10/03 6:41:48 PM Central Standard Time, Tmmshu@aol.com writes: > What parish would that be? According to Stanley LeBlanc Bayou Mallet is in Acadia Parish. Don

Hello again, I had asked about where the Bayou Mallet was located yesterday. Can anyone tell me if there would have been a newspaper for the parish that Bayou Mallet is located in? What parish would that be? Thank you so much, Theresa M. Mosby Researching: IN LOUISIANA: CESAIRE/CEASER/CESAR/CAESAR/NUGENT/VICTORIAN/DUROUSSEAU/GUILLORY/FREEMAN IN FLORIDA: CAMBRIDGE/GARVIN/REYNOLDS IN VIRGINIA & PENNSYLVANIA: MOSBY/POSTLES

In a message dated 12/9/03 7:34:14 PM Central Standard Time, Tmmshu@aol.com writes: > Hi everyone, > can anyone tell me where the Bayou Mallet comes in? I can't find it on my > map. > Thank you, > ============= Following is what I found on Bayou Mallet: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- BAYOU MALLET Bayou Mallet was once called Bayou Catar. It was later named for Pierre Mallet. He and his brother Antoine were early French settlers of the Opelousas district. They were minors in 1768, when Jacques Courtableau acted as their guardian in a transaction involving a French land grant. The Mallet land was just west of the Maxie community, about eight miles north of Crowley. Early landowners in the Bayou Mallet area included Jacob Bihm, a native of Germany; Joseph C. Poiret, Chevalier de l'Ordre Royal et Militaire de St. Louis; Joseph Armand, who owned a large tract on Prairie Cottereau; Francois Rozas, who owned land on Bayou Catar; and Michel Prudhomme Sr. and Michel Prudhomme Jr., who together owned land on both sides of Bayou Mallet. The Prudhomme home, built in 1796, was identified in the Crowley newspaper of Aug. 25, 1888, as the oldest home still standing in the parish. Other early settlers in the area included Jean-Baptiste Young, who had land on the north side of the bayou about three miles East of Eunice; John Fruge, who owned land adjacent to the Young tract; Frederick Miller, whose land extended across the parish line into St. Landry Parish; John Miller, Frederick's brother; Jean-Baptiste Stelly Sr., who owned land on a small stream west of Frederick Miller's property; and Michel Carrier, who had 800 arpents extending into Prairie Faquetaïque and 1,000 arpents in "Woods Bayou Mallet." Bennet Jopling claimed a large tract "in the bayou of Mallet's woods," though the land was first owned by Joseph Chevalier Poiret. Adjacent to the Jopling tract was land owned by Thomas Bledsoe, which had originally been claimed by Jean Doucet. Father Louis Buhot, a French priest from Normandy, held land on the South side of the bayou about halfway between Eunice and Mowata. He was curate for the Opelousas church about 12 years, coming there in 1801, and remaining there until his death in 1813. He also claimed land in St. Landry Parish and in the Avoyelles District "for the use of the church." Patrick Gurnett's land was on the south bank of Bayou Mallet, just west of the Frey community. William Johnson held a large rectangle of land on Prairie Faquetaïque. Johnson's neighbors to the west were Fabien and Louis Richard, probably brothers, perhaps uncle and nephew. (Source: Lafayette (LA) Daily Advertiser, August 26, 1997 Acadia communities have colorful histories )by Jim Bradshaw

Hi everyone, can anyone tell me where the Bayou Mallet comes in? I can't find it on my map. Thank you, Theresa M. Mosby Researching: IN LOUISIANA: CESAIRE/CEASER/CESAR/CAESAR/NUGENT/VICTORIAN/DUROUSSEAU/GUILLORY/FREEMAN IN FLORIDA: CAMBRIDGE/GARVIN/REYNOLDS IN VIRGINIA & PENNSYLVANIA: MOSBY/POSTLES

It is in Acadia Parish. See excerpt below Stanley LeBlanc BAYOU MALLET Bayou Mallet was once called Bayou Catar. It was later named for Pierre Mallet. He and his brother Antoine were early French settlers of the Opelousas district. They were minors in 1768, when Jacques Courtableau acted as their guardian in a transaction involving a French land grant. The Mallet land was just west of the Maxie community, about eight miles north of Crowley. Early landowners in the Bayou Mallet area included Jacob Bihm, a native of Germany; Joseph C. Poiret, Chevalier de l'Ordre Royal et Militaire de St. Louis; Joseph Armand, who owned a large tract on Prairie Cottereau; Francois Rozas, who owned land on Bayou Catar; and Michel Prudhomme Sr. and Michel Prudhomme Jr., who together owned land on both sides of Bayou Mallet. The Prudhomme home, built in 1796, was identified in the Crowley newspaper of Aug. 25, 1888, as the oldest home still standing in the parish. Other early settlers in the area included Jean-Baptiste Young, who had land on the north side of the bayou about three miles East of Eunice; John Fruge, who owned land adjacent to the Young tract; Frederick Miller, whose land extended across the parish line into St. Landry Parish; John Miller, Frederick's brother; Jean-Baptiste Stelly Sr., who owned land on a small stream west of Frederick Miller's property; and Michel Carrier, who had 800 arpents extending into Prairie Faquetaïque and 1,000 arpents in "Woods Bayou Mallet." Bennet Jopling claimed a large tract "in the bayou of Mallet's woods," though the land was first owned by Joseph Chevalier Poiret. Adjacent to the Jopling tract was land owned by Thomas Bledsoe, which had originally been claimed by Jean Doucet. Father Louis Buhot, a French priest from Normandy, held land on the South side of the bayou about halfway between Eunice and Mowata. He was curate for the Opelousas church about 12 years, coming there in 1801, and remaining there until his death in 1813. He also claimed land in St. Landry Parish and in the Avoyelles District "for the use of the church." Patrick Gurnett's land was on the south bank of Bayou Mallet, just west of the Frey community. William Johnson held a large rectangle of land on Prairie Faquetaïque. Johnson's neighbors to the west were Fabien and Louis Richard, probably brothers, perhaps uncle and nephew. -----Original Message----- From: Tmmshu@aol.com [mailto:Tmmshu@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:33 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Bayou mallet Hi everyone, can anyone tell me where the Bayou Mallet comes in? I can't find it on my map. Thank you, Theresa M. Mosby Researching: IN LOUISIANA: CESAIRE/CEASER/CESAR/CAESAR/NUGENT/VICTORIAN/DUROUSSEAU/GUILLORY/FREEMAN IN FLORIDA: CAMBRIDGE/GARVIN/REYNOLDS IN VIRGINIA & PENNSYLVANIA: MOSBY/POSTLES ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hello dear listers...I seem to have lost these 2 Boudreaus and I hope SKS can assist: i)Marguerite BOUDREAU,b/bapt.8 nov,1826, in Petit Rocher,Nouveau Brunswick...she was the 'twin' to my maternal GRx2 grandfather, Tranquille BOUDREAU...I have no other info on her and I would appreciate any leads to fill-in- the blanks... ii)I need the parents and siblings of Joseph BOUDREAU,b.ca.1878,in Bathurst or Petit Rocher,NB...he married Margaret(Maggie) Firlotte,dit FRELAT in 1905(Maggis was b.1886,d.1967(Canada's Centennial)...she is the GR granddaughter of Isaac Ferlatte,dit FRELAT;Isaac is my GRx3 paternal grandfather... Thanks ever so much...Kristine in Kansas...

Hi Margy, I hope I get how to post to the board correctly this time. --------------------------------------------------------- We were born in La. & now are retired in San Antonio, TX Esther Comeaux Howard and Jack Vincent Howard's, (Jack's mother was a Vincent), Acadian family lines: Martin Aucoin m. Marie Denys Salle---1 family line Antoine Babin m. Marie Mercier---4 lines Jean Bpt. Blanchard m.Radegibde Lambert---2 lines Michel Boudreaux m. Michelle Aucoin---4 lines Jacques Bourgeois m. Jeanne Trahan---4 lines Antoine Bourque m. Antoinette Landry---4 lines Vincent Breaux m. Marie Bourque---4 lines Francois Broussard m Catherine Richard---5 lines Jean Louis Champagne m. Marie Forrest---1 line Pierre Comeaux m. Rose Bayols---6 lines Thomas Cormier m. Madeleine Girouard---1 line Philippe d'Entremont m Madeleine Heilie---1 line Jerome Darois m. Marie Gareau---2 lines Germain Doucet m Marie Bourgeois---2 lines Abraham Dugas m Marguerite Carrsonne---1line Jean Bpt. (Duon) Duhon m Agnes Hebert---2 lines Michel Dupuis m Mari Francoise (Gautrot) Gautreaux---2 lines Jean Gaudet m (Unknown wife)---3 lines Francois (Gautrot) Gautreaux m Edmee LeJeune---2 lines Firm Girouard m Marguerite Cormier---2 lines Pierre Godin m Jeanne Rousseliere---2 lines Laurent Granger (English) m Marie Henriette Landry---1 line Pierre Guilbeaux m Catherine Terriot---3 lines Antoine Hebert m Genevieve LeFrance---1 line Etienne Hebert m. Marie Gaudet---4 lines Martin Henry m. Marie Hebert---2 flines Rene Landry m. Marie Bernard---4 lines Daniel LeBlanc m. Francoise Gaudet---4 lines Pierre Martin m Catherin Vigneau---2 lines Pierre Melancon (English) m. Percilla (unknown last name)---2 lines Jacques Michel m Catherin Comeaux---2 lines Francois Savoie m Catherine LeJeune---3 lines Louis (Saulnier) Sonnier m Louise Bastineaud---2 lines Jean Terriot m Perrine Breaux--- 5 lines Pierre Thibodeaux m Jeanne Terriot--- 5 lines Guillaume Trahan m Francoise Corbineau---1 line Guillaume Trahan m Marie Madelene Burn---2 lines Pierre Clement Vincent m Ann Gaudet--- 2 lines ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Of the above family lines, these are our main family names that were first Acadians, in that family line, to arrive in La: 4 family lines from the children of Francois Broussard & Catherine Richard Marie Broussard m Rene Doucet Alexandre Broussard m Marguerite Thibodeaux Joseph Broussard m. Agnes (Nanette) Thibodeaux Pierre Broussard m Marguerite Bourque Charles Comeaux (his parents were Jean Bpt. & Brigitte Marguerite Savoie) m. Anastasie Savoie (her parents were Paul & Judith Mitchel) Michel Cormier (his parents were Pierre Cormier & Cecile Thibodeaux) m. Anne Marie (Saulnier) Sonnier (her parents were Jacques & Ann Hebert) Michel Trahan (his parents were Rene & Eliz. Darios) m. Ann Euphrosine Vincent (Her Parents were Michel Vincent & Anne Marie Doiron Jean Trahan, (brother of Michel Trahan) m Marguerite Broussard ( her parents were Alex. & Marguerite Thibodeaux) Pierre Vincent arrived in 1788, after 30 years of exile (his parents were Joseph & Marguerite (Bodart) or Cotard) 1st. m. Agnes Broussard. 2nd time m. a girl living at the German coast. She was from Brunswick County, Va., Catherine ------------------------------------------ Please, if you care to share corrections, I would appreciate it.

Boston Sunday Herald-Dec. 7, 2003-- Elizabeth "Babe" A. Gillard, at 63 died Thursday at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. Born in Glace Bay, Nova Scotia. Much, much more to Obit. If interested contact me and I will send more. Bill Pellerin in New Hampshire

Jim, Re birth of Michel, SAW shows bet 1662 and 4/24/1668 The marriage record for Michel, the son, to Madeleine LeBlanc is in the St. Charles aux Mines records contained in DOBR, v.1.a, rev. pgs 89 and 137. The marriage was 12 Oct 1711 and Michel's parents, Michel and Anne Cormier, are shown as [habitans of the parish of Beaubassin] This is the only entry for Hache in the St. Charles aux Mines records. Some of the Hache line were exiled to France and some ended up in Louisiana. Stanley LeBlanc -----Original Message----- From: James Perry [mailto:jperry@pei.sympatico.ca] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 6:28 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Moving On Hi, Thanks Margy for moving the discussion to a more broader based message arena. Lets move on. I have a question that maybe someone has the answer for. Regarding Michel Hache Gallant. Who were his parents? and where was he born, in France or in Quebec, or was it Acadia? I have seen all three Listed. Was his mother a native MikMaq? What does S.White have in his Dictionaire? Thank you for your info. This is the Michel Hache Gallant who married Anne Cormier, and was the first Acadian to move to Ile St. Jean about 1720. And the father of the extensive Gallant family throughout the Maritimes. James p.s. Maybe it is time to do another roll call, and let the newer Acadian/Cajun cousins on the list introduce themselves and reintroduce the ones that have been around for awhile. I saw some names come up during the previous aforementioned discussion that were not as familiar as some of the others. My name is James Perry, I live in beautiful but snowy Summerside PEI, Canada. My roots are Perry/Poirier, Arsenault, Gallant, DesRoches, Cormier, Bernard, Aucoin (Wedge) and back to most of the original surnames who settled Acadia in the early and mid 1600's. I have been researching my family for about 28 years now. Your turn now. your Island Acadian Cousin James ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.acadian -cajun This is a link to the Acadian-Cajun Message Board at RootsWeb. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi, Thanks Margy for moving the discussion to a more broader based message arena. Lets move on. I have a question that maybe someone has the answer for. Regarding Michel Hache Gallant. Who were his parents? and where was he born, in France or in Quebec, or was it Acadia? I have seen all three Listed. Was his mother a native MikMaq? What does S.White have in his Dictionaire? Thank you for your info. This is the Michel Hache Gallant who married Anne Cormier, and was the first Acadian to move to Ile St. Jean about 1720. And the father of the extensive Gallant family throughout the Maritimes. James p.s. Maybe it is time to do another roll call, and let the newer Acadian/Cajun cousins on the list introduce themselves and reintroduce the ones that have been around for awhile. I saw some names come up during the previous aforementioned discussion that were not as familiar as some of the others. My name is James Perry, I live in beautiful but snowy Summerside PEI, Canada. My roots are Perry/Poirier, Arsenault, Gallant, DesRoches, Cormier, Bernard, Aucoin (Wedge) and back to most of the original surnames who settled Acadia in the early and mid 1600's. I have been researching my family for about 28 years now. Your turn now. your Island Acadian Cousin James

Jim, Actually we are moving away from a broader-based discussion to the more focused "genealogy-only" one! DGFA, p. 791 shows the following for the parents of Michel Hache [Larche] dit Gallant bn abt 1662 who m. Anne Cormier: [peut-etre Pierre & -----(une Amerindienne)] Anne Cormier's parents were Thomas & Marie-Madeleine Girouard. She was bn abt 1674. Their son, Michel bn abt 1691 m. Madeleine LeBlanc [Jacques & Catherine Hebert] By the way, there were several Larche, Larchvesque lines in the Illinois Region. Perhaps there was a connection. -----Original Message----- From: James Perry [mailto:jperry@pei.sympatico.ca] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 6:28 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Moving On Hi, Thanks Margy for moving the discussion to a more broader based message arena. Lets move on. I have a question that maybe someone has the answer for. Regarding Michel Hache Gallant. Who were his parents? and where was he born, in France or in Quebec, or was it Acadia? I have seen all three Listed. Was his mother a native MikMaq? What does S.White have in his Dictionaire? Thank you for your info. This is the Michel Hache Gallant who married Anne Cormier, and was the first Acadian to move to Ile St. Jean about 1720. And the father of the extensive Gallant family throughout the Maritimes. James p.s. Maybe it is time to do another roll call, and let the newer Acadian/Cajun cousins on the list introduce themselves and reintroduce the ones that have been around for awhile. I saw some names come up during the previous aforementioned discussion that were not as familiar as some of the others. My name is James Perry, I live in beautiful but snowy Summerside PEI, Canada. My roots are Perry/Poirier, Arsenault, Gallant, DesRoches, Cormier, Bernard, Aucoin (Wedge) and back to most of the original surnames who settled Acadia in the early and mid 1600's. I have been researching my family for about 28 years now. Your turn now. your Island Acadian Cousin James ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.acadian -cajun This is a link to the Acadian-Cajun Message Board at RootsWeb. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi, I have watched with interest the passion, which I share, about the child abuse article. I am not as good with words as some, but I will support any effort made to notify the Tribune Papers of our dis-satisfaction with one of their editorialists. Andy Scott -----Original Message----- From: Cajun [mailto:cajun@thecajuns.com] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 4:14 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Child abuse, Cajun-style-Admin Margy, I'll request your wish and cease any further discussion on the list re the issue. I would like, however, to point out to my Acadian cousins that although this is an Acadian-Cajun List that they don't understand the slurs that their Louisiana "Cajun" cousins have endured for decades. Supposed the article had been Child Abuse Acadian-Style or French-Canadian Style? It is time that we stand up and say enough is enough re slurs upon Cajuns. If anyone wishes to provide their input re the issue, please send to me separately at cajun@thecajuns.com as I plan to pursue the issue with the newspapers and other parties. Stanley LeBlanc -----Original Message----- From: Margy Bousman [mailto:mbousman7@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 2:54 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Child abuse, Cajun-style-Admin After the original message was sent to the list I received numerous emails about it. Most upset at the content with the point about the Cajun slur being missed. I was debating how to address this when I heard from Stanley who sent me a copy of Esther's email and the response from Mr. Press. I agreed that the list should see it and stand by my decision. After discussion resumed today my mail box is again being filled. I must commend the whole list. I have truly appreciated your willingness to come to me off list instead of taking it to the list. Bottom line is that the subject is too uncomfortable for some of our members, or continuing too long or gone too far. I feel that the list has been great about keeping the subject line going on this so folks can delete unread if desired. My personal opinion is to not stop the thread. Who knows, ya'll could be done at this point. But based on the number of emails received today I'm going to make a request. Let's take this thread for any more discussion over to La-Cajun. To subscribe send an email to: LA-CAJUN-L-request@rootsweb.com Subscribe in the subject line, you use this address to unsubscribe also. To send a message send to: La-Cajun-L@rootsweb.com This will allow the thread to continue if desired. Those on the La-Cajun list who do not want to read anymore may contact me and I'll unsubscribe them from there until the thread is finished and then resubscribe them afterwords. Thanks, Margy List Admin. ps. We had a controversy in my area a while back over the way a headline was worded. The paper did apologize and add that editors write the article headlines and not the writers. Whether this is so in this case I do not known and he has not denied it in his defense in his emails. -----Original Message----- From: Cajun [mailto:cajun@thecajuns.com] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:05 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Child abuse, Cajun-style It is not Cajun that we are objecting to - it is Child Abuse Cajun-Style! I'm proud to be a Cajun but I don't appreciate having someone refer to Child Abuse as being Cajun-Style. I would feel the same if I saw Child Abuse Mexican-Style or Jewish-Style, etc. Mr. Press could have made his point by simply referring to where the incident occurred and stressing that some teachers and a principal apparently need sensitivity training, but to imply that all Cajuns are intolerant and sanction child abuse is clearly inappropriate. Stanley LeBlanc ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.acadian -cajun This is a link to the Acadian-Cajun Message Board at RootsWeb. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

After the original message was sent to the list I received numerous emails about it. Most upset at the content with the point about the Cajun slur being missed. I was debating how to address this when I heard from Stanley who sent me a copy of Esther's email and the response from Mr. Press. I agreed that the list should see it and stand by my decision. After discussion resumed today my mail box is again being filled. I must commend the whole list. I have truly appreciated your willingness to come to me off list instead of taking it to the list. Bottom line is that the subject is too uncomfortable for some of our members, or continuing too long or gone too far. I feel that the list has been great about keeping the subject line going on this so folks can delete unread if desired. My personal opinion is to not stop the thread. Who knows, ya'll could be done at this point. But based on the number of emails received today I'm going to make a request. Let's take this thread for any more discussion over to La-Cajun. To subscribe send an email to: LA-CAJUN-L-request@rootsweb.com Subscribe in the subject line, you use this address to unsubscribe also. To send a message send to: La-Cajun-L@rootsweb.com This will allow the thread to continue if desired. Those on the La-Cajun list who do not want to read anymore may contact me and I'll unsubscribe them from there until the thread is finished and then resubscribe them afterwords. Thanks, Margy List Admin. ps. We had a controversy in my area a while back over the way a headline was worded. The paper did apologize and add that editors write the article headlines and not the writers. Whether this is so in this case I do not known and he has not denied it in his defense in his emails. -----Original Message----- From: Cajun [mailto:cajun@thecajuns.com] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:05 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Child abuse, Cajun-style It is not Cajun that we are objecting to - it is Child Abuse Cajun-Style! I'm proud to be a Cajun but I don't appreciate having someone refer to Child Abuse as being Cajun-Style. I would feel the same if I saw Child Abuse Mexican-Style or Jewish-Style, etc. Mr. Press could have made his point by simply referring to where the incident occurred and stressing that some teachers and a principal apparently need sensitivity training, but to imply that all Cajuns are intolerant and sanction child abuse is clearly inappropriate. Stanley LeBlanc

Margy, I'll request your wish and cease any further discussion on the list re the issue. I would like, however, to point out to my Acadian cousins that although this is an Acadian-Cajun List that they don't understand the slurs that their Louisiana "Cajun" cousins have endured for decades. Supposed the article had been Child Abuse Acadian-Style or French-Canadian Style? It is time that we stand up and say enough is enough re slurs upon Cajuns. If anyone wishes to provide their input re the issue, please send to me separately at cajun@thecajuns.com as I plan to pursue the issue with the newspapers and other parties. Stanley LeBlanc -----Original Message----- From: Margy Bousman [mailto:mbousman7@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 2:54 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Child abuse, Cajun-style-Admin After the original message was sent to the list I received numerous emails about it. Most upset at the content with the point about the Cajun slur being missed. I was debating how to address this when I heard from Stanley who sent me a copy of Esther's email and the response from Mr. Press. I agreed that the list should see it and stand by my decision. After discussion resumed today my mail box is again being filled. I must commend the whole list. I have truly appreciated your willingness to come to me off list instead of taking it to the list. Bottom line is that the subject is too uncomfortable for some of our members, or continuing too long or gone too far. I feel that the list has been great about keeping the subject line going on this so folks can delete unread if desired. My personal opinion is to not stop the thread. Who knows, ya'll could be done at this point. But based on the number of emails received today I'm going to make a request. Let's take this thread for any more discussion over to La-Cajun. To subscribe send an email to: LA-CAJUN-L-request@rootsweb.com Subscribe in the subject line, you use this address to unsubscribe also. To send a message send to: La-Cajun-L@rootsweb.com This will allow the thread to continue if desired. Those on the La-Cajun list who do not want to read anymore may contact me and I'll unsubscribe them from there until the thread is finished and then resubscribe them afterwords. Thanks, Margy List Admin. ps. We had a controversy in my area a while back over the way a headline was worded. The paper did apologize and add that editors write the article headlines and not the writers. Whether this is so in this case I do not known and he has not denied it in his defense in his emails. -----Original Message----- From: Cajun [mailto:cajun@thecajuns.com] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 1:05 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Child abuse, Cajun-style It is not Cajun that we are objecting to - it is Child Abuse Cajun-Style! I'm proud to be a Cajun but I don't appreciate having someone refer to Child Abuse as being Cajun-Style. I would feel the same if I saw Child Abuse Mexican-Style or Jewish-Style, etc. Mr. Press could have made his point by simply referring to where the incident occurred and stressing that some teachers and a principal apparently need sensitivity training, but to imply that all Cajuns are intolerant and sanction child abuse is clearly inappropriate. Stanley LeBlanc ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.acadian -cajun This is a link to the Acadian-Cajun Message Board at RootsWeb. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

There was an article in the 12/6/2003 edition of The Daily Telegraph, a national newspaper in England re the Acadian Explusion Proclamation. I created a page on my site for the article which included the painting by Roboert Dafford that is at the Acadian Memorial in St. Martinsville. I am a little concerned about the "English Slant" given to the Explusion but this will be the first time that many people in the UK will hear about the explusion. The url is http://www.thecajuns.com/dailytele.htm Stanley LeBlanc www.thecajuns.com

I do not support many of Bill's positions, although I do respect him. I listened to his radio show out of Los Angeles for several years. He probably wouldn't remember but I was in a position several years ago where I provided support for his social agenda (please understand that my use of agenda in this context is not negative). He proudly labels himself a social liberal as I would label myself a social moderate. So, there are areas we agree on and other areas we disagree on. Nothing wrong with that. You are right that even a columnist can have adjustments made to his or her article/letter. The Readers' Representative for the San Diego paper often responds to readers with a printed response to their concern...whether an editor's decision, reporter's potential bias, the fairness, content, or relevancy of the article, etc. In this case, I don't believe that the editor made any significant changes. San Diego County, as many areas in the country, is a melting pot of this nation and the nations of the world. Yes, we have problems but there is a lot to be proud of. However, I do not see anything wrong that individuals are indicating to the editor(s) and Mr. Press their concern. I am surprised that Bill would have written the heading. He made a mistake. Maybe he was trying to meet a deadline and wrote it in haste. Maybe he was still upset about changes at NBC/MSNBC canceling his show. I don't know and it is unfair for myself and others to judge his motives. As Mr. Press would advocate, it is the right of individuals to be able to express their displeasure. I am surprised by his flippant dismissal to several individuals who have emailed him. He can do better. ASC

The subject of Mr. Press's article is about the acceptance of Gay people.  My point is why did Bill Press have to insult our "Cajun" Culture by intimating that "Cajuns" abuse children & that is an understood FACT, with his use of his title, when his article was not about a Culture at all.  Stanley, you make a good point,.by saying, "It is ironic that Mr. Press can make such derogatory comments about an entire ethnic group while claiming to be card-carrying memeber of the ACLU!"  I ask, because of his ACLU membership, how can he be so "tongue in cheek," with, what I perceive to be, a derogatory comment about a whole ethnic Culture?  (It seems to me, he may have heard some "good boudreaux jokes" when he was in "Cajun Land" & believes them to be about a mythical Culture, just as "boudreaux" is mythical character.) Would he have entitled his article "Child Abuse "Any Well Recognized Ethnic Group" Style"? I think not.  I felt a "slap in the face" when I read Mr. Press' title even if he doesn't know waht he is talking about.  He needs to get educated to the fact that the "Cajun" Culture is about real people. That we are a real ethnic group.  (The meaning of ethnic being: of or relating to large groups of people classed according to common racial, national, tribal, religious, linguistic, or cultural origin or background)        Thank you, ASCalman, for making us aware of what is important about what's happening today, & by saying this, I do not mean that "The Pardon" subject is not very important, but please, we need to address insults as they come. Esther Comeaux Howard Per Merriam Webster, the meaning fo the word "Cajun" Cajun- noun--a Louisianian descended from French-speaking immigrants from Acadia . Cajun-adjective 1 : of, relating to, or characteristic of the Cajuns 2 : of, relating to, or prepared in a style of cooking originating among the Cajuns and characterized by the use of hot seasonings (as cayenne pepper)

re: How many cookbooks have "nigger" or "kyke" in the title? In more recent times, not many...we have taken great strides to eliminate derogatory words and terms as they apply to individuals, medical conditions, ethnicity, etc. Bill Press is an articulate speaker and writer. He should be taken to task for something like this. Can you imagine what the furor would have been if he used a title "inferring" African-American or Hispanic. ASC

It is not Cajun that we are objecting to - it is Child Abuse Cajun-Style! I'm proud to be a Cajun but I don't appreciate having someone refer to Child Abuse as being Cajun-Style. I would feel the same if I saw Child Abuse Mexican-Style or Jewish-Style, etc. Mr. Press could have made his point by simply referring to where the incident occurred and stressing that some teachers and a principal apparently need sensitivity training, but to imply that all Cajuns are intolerant and sanction child abuse is clearly inappropriate. Stanley LeBlanc -----Original Message----- From: Diane DuBay [mailto:ddubay66@msn.com] Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:35 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Child abuse, Cajun-style Aw, c'mon. "Cajun" is not a perjorative and Bill Press, a wordsmith, knows that. "Cajun" refers to an ethnic group. Try it out. How many cookbooks have "Cajun" in the title? How many cookbooks have "nigger" or "kyke" in the title? James Carville refers to himself on national TV as a "Ragin Cajun." Does Larry King call himself a "kyke?" We can easily recognize "Cajun music" and "soul music" as distinctive music of ethnic or regional origin, but "kyke" or "nigger," similarly used, are used to demean. Our family recently learned that the name we all wear probably came from a great-great "Cajun" grandfather and we are happy and pleased to refer to him, and to ourselves, that way. ----- Original Message ----- From: ASCalman@aol.com<mailto:ASCalman@aol.com> To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 12:39 PM Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Child abuse, Cajun-style I thought the list should see this from the former head of California's Democratic Party, former CrossFire on CNN, etc. The content is not my concern, it is the title...published in the San Diego Union-Tribune and probably many other papers around the country. Text follows: Child abuse, Cajun-style Bill Press Press a political analyst for MSNBC is author of "Spin This!" He can be reached via e-mail at <A HREF="mailto:BillPress@aol.com">BillPress@aol.com</A<mailto:BillPress@ao l.com">BillPress@aol.com</A>>. December 5, 2003 I have a confession to make: I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU. That doesn't mean I always agree with that bunch of lefties. Concerned about the easy access for children, for example, I never bought into their broad defense of pornography on the Internet. But I stood up and applauded when they forced Roy Moore to move his monument to the Ten Commandments out of the Alabama state courthouse. I love the Constitution. I treasure the Bill of Rights. I recognize that federal and state governments, under both Democratic and Republican leaders - and especially this administration - are constantly trying to chip away at our freedom. So I love the fact that there is one organization whose sole purpose, night and day, is to fight for and defend the basic rights of all Americans, liberal and conservative. Yes, even the rights of a 7-year-old kid from Louisiana. Here's one more case where the ACLU is dead right. Call it child abuse, Cajun-style. The ACLU's against it. We all should be. It happened at Gallet Elementary School in Youngsville, La. Second-grader Marcus McLaurin was lined up with his fellow students for recess when a friend asked about his mother and father. In a scene that's happening more and more in schoolyards across the country, Marcus said he didn't have a mother and father, he had two mothers. Understandably confused - remember, we're talking about two 7-year-olds here - his friend asked why he had two moms. Marcus said, because my mom is "gay." When his friend still didn't understand, Marcus explained: "Gay is when a girl likes another girl." Now, let's stop right there. If you ask me, this kid showed a lot of cool under fire. He also showed that he'd been taught by his mother how to deal with this situation. And that she'd given him just enough, but not too much, information: all a 7-year-old needed to know or tell other people. Seems to me both mother and son got it just right. But that's not how school officials reacted. His teacher berated him in front of the entire class, telling him "gay" was a bad word he should never say again - and sent him to the principal's office. From there he was sent to the school's behavioral problems clinic, where he was ordered to write 100 times: "I will never say the word 'gay' in school again." What a horrible thing to do to that little kid! Publicly humiliated by his teacher in front of his classmates. And then forced to repudiate his mother in writing. He didn't even know what he had done wrong - and, in fact, he had done nothing wrong at all. How could an elementary school teacher and principal be so cruel, and so ignorant? While poor little Marcus was being tortured, authorities turned on his mother. She received a phone call saying her son was being punished for using a foul word: a word so foul, the principal told her, he dared not utter it over the phone. Marcus would bring home a note, he said, spelling out his crime. What planet are these people living on? In case school officials in Youngsville, La., don't know it yet, "gay" is not a bad word. Neither is "homosexual." And neither is "lesbian." Enter the ACLU, with a very reasonable request. They're not demanding the teacher be fired, or the principal sent to jail. They're simply requesting that the school erase this incident from Marcus' disciplinary record, that teachers never again prevent him from exercising his freedom of speech (or talking about his mom) and that school officials apologize to him and his mother. Frankly, I think the ACLU is letting them off the hook too easily. They should make two other demands of school officials. First, they should require the teacher and principal to spend a couple of days in New Orleans, Atlanta, Miami, Chicago, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle, New York, Boston, Washington or any other American city where they might actually meet a real live gay man or lesbian and discover that they don't look any different, don't have horns and don't have one eye in the middle of their forehead. Then, on their way back to Youngsville, the chastened school officials should have to write 1,000 times: "Gay is not a four-letter word." Let Marcus have his revenge. Copyright 2003 Union-Tribune Publishing Co. ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/ACADIAN-CAJUN.html This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. 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Below are the responses received from Mr. Press to my two emails. Stanley LeBlanc www.thecajuns.com *** From: BillPress@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 8:21 AM To: cajun@thecajuns.com Subject: Re: Your Response to Mrs. Howard As I told Mrs. Howard, lighten up! Bill Press *** From: BillPress@aol.com Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 8:20 AM To: cajun@thecajuns.com Subject: Re: No Gays in San Diego? Yes, San Diego should be on the list. Anywhere they could learn a little tolerance. Bill Press