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    1. [ACADIAN-CAJUN] ICO ICO - Mardi Gras Indian Song
    2. Cajun
    3. I put ICO ICO on my Cajun/Zydeco page for convenience purposes, but as explained below by my cousin Paul LeBlanc, it is a Mardi Gras Indian Song. I have other Mardi Gras songs that I'll post asap... Stanley LeBlanc www.thecajuns.com ***Note from Paul LeBlanc, my 5th cousin, once-removed!*** Ico Ico is New Orleans "Mardi Gras Indian" song. not Zydeco. Local legend - Indian tribes took in runaway slaves and intermarried. New Orleans People of Color honor them each year by dressing in elaborate Indian costumes on Mardi Gras & St Joseph Day. The song is about the non-formal routes the different Tribes (Neighborhood groups or extended families) as they walk the neighborhoods. Flag boys are the scouts looking for other "Tribes". When two tribes meet they have strutting contests.

    02/18/2004 02:16:56
    1. [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Mardi Gras [Carnival]
    2. Cajun
    3. Q: Why is Mardi Gras [Known as Carnival in Latin & South America]a big deal? A: Because Mardi Gras [Fat Tuesday] is the day before Ash Wednesday and in the Roman Catholic Tradition it is the last day to "party and pig out" before the Lenten Season of sacrifice and fasting that ends on Easter Sunday [when the partying can begin again!] Note: Louisiana Legend: The town of Parks, La. was supposedly given that name by a railroad engineer who stopped at the present-day site on Easter Sunday and asked the Acadians the name of the place. They were celebrating Easter and thought that he was asking "what is going on" and answered "C'est Paques" or it's Easter. He translated Paques into Parks! Although New Orleans is best known for Mardi Gras, there are major celebrations through-out Louisiana, in Mobile, Alabama [claims to have the oldest Mardi Gras celebration], Biloxi, Ms., Galveston, Tx, numerous other US sites and Carnival in Latin and South America. Stanley LeBlanc www.thecajuns.com

    02/18/2004 01:53:38
    1. [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Ico Ico
    2. Cajun
    3. Mardi Gras is next Tuesday [2/24/04] so I've put a catchy song named Ico ico on my site linked from the Cajun and Zydeco Music page at: http://www.thecajuns.com/czmusic.htm It is in Windows Media Audio format. I'll put up in RealPlayer format asap. Stanley LeBlanc www.thecajuns.com

    02/18/2004 01:31:57
    1. [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Smith-Hebert
    2. John Bower
    3. Keith, John Smith (Benjamin & Mary Russell) of Easthaven, Connecticut, an Englishman, married Anastasie Hebert (Pierre & Elisabeth Dupuis), an Acadian deportee (born Grand pre) in N. Guilford 18 Dec 1869. They returned to L'Acadie after captivity. -- John-- John Bower

    02/18/2004 07:10:55
    1. [ACADIAN-CAJUN] recent death Roy W Perry
    2. James Perry
    3. Anyone out there from the Brookline, Mass. area, Roy William Perry born 13 Feb 1918, died 23 Jan 2004 Owned and operated Perry Construction US Army 1939 to 1946 Bronze Star Retirement Perry Woodcrafts son of William and Marie Eulalie (Lombard) Perry Any body know anything more? William was a brother to my grandfather (born St. Nicholas PEI) James

    02/18/2004 12:35:13
    1. [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Re: ACADIAN-CAJUN-D Digest V04 #52 LaFevers
    2. Dan, I will do some looking for you the next time I am at the library or family history center. Are there any other names you can add? Children, etc? Betty Rick & Betty Todd San Jose, CA JOCKOTODDS@AOL.COM

    02/17/2004 06:10:29
    1. [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Acadians and nobility
    2. Keith LeBouef
    3. Hey Scott and all, In response to this, I have a question. the > > Protestant/Catholic wars of religion in France at the time -- a war fought > > in large part across the homes and fields of many of our Acadian ancestors > > in western France I'm a LeBouef, Decendent from Thomas LeBoeuf who was born in Notre Dame De Cire, Aunis, France. I thought all my life I was 100 percent Cajun untill I started researching my tree for a little more than a year now. I found out different. My cajun roots come from the Daigle's, my mom's mother and the Hebert's and Smith's,my Dad's mothers side. Is Smith Acadian? I haven't charted my acadian line as far as the LeBoeuf's. I do have the Hebert's traced back to Port Royale. OK here's my question.Could some one explain to me or give info on the geographic locations on where the wars were fought. Also how far Aunis is from where our Acadian ancestors were from. It would be great to trace back from France beyond the 1500's, but I guess that is probably harder to research than it is for researching the Acadian genealogy that was destroyed. the furthest I was able to go was Thomas' father Francois LeBoeuf of Giray, Charente Inferie, France bn 1587. It would be great to go beyond that but as Someone had told me before the Edict of Nantes was when a lot of vital statistics were destroyed in France over the religion wars. I could only guess our Acadian Ancestors records were probably in the mix. Correct me if I'm wrong or shine some new light on the subject. Will greatly appreciate any help on any this. Thanks, Keith LeBouef Titusville, Fl.

    02/17/2004 05:13:22
    1. [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Joseph Landry m. Magdalena [Madeleine] LeBlanc
    2. Cajun
    3. Page 430 of DOBR, v.2 has an entry that has caused confusion for the Landry and LeBlanc descendants. The entry under Landry reads: Joseph, widower of Magdalena LeBlanc [parents not given] m. 25 Nov. 1781, Marie Babein, widow of Carlos Babein, [parents not given] wit. Efreme Babin & Estevan Landry [ASC-1, 143] Many have shown this Joseph as the spouse of Magdelaine LeBlanc, bn abt 1757, daughter of Etienne LeBlanc and Elisabeth [Isabelle] Boudrot [my 5th great-grand-parents]because Page DOBR, v. 2, p. 429 shows: Joseph [Abraham & Marguerite Flanc] m. 23 Feb, 1773, Magdelaine LeBlanc [Estienne & Elisabethe Boudereau] [both parents of Acadia] wit. Maturin Savoy & Joseph LeBlanc [SJA-1, 47] Note: A correction on Page 11a of DOBR, v.2 changes the 2 23 1773 date to 9 23 1778. There is a problem, however, because Magdelaine LeBlanc, [Etienne and Elisabeth Boudrot] m. a Joseph Landry who died 1/8/1784 [DOBR, v.2, p. 428]. So the Joseph Landry on page 430 of DOBR, v.2 who m. Magdalena Babein on 25 Nov. 1781 could not have been the widower of Madgalena LeBlanc, daughter of Etienne LeBlanc and Elisabeth Boudrot. Magdelaine later married Henry Robichot in 1787. He died in 1799 and she m. Jacques Lamothe 1/3/1803. I plan to write to the DOBR to clarify the entry on p. 430 of v.2 since there must be another Joseph and Madelaine involved. Stanley LeBlanc www.thecajuns.com

    02/17/2004 01:28:30
    1. [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Assumption Parish LA Original Cahier Records, Books 1 thru 5, 1786-1813
    2. Cajun
    3. Some of you may have overlooked the really valuable book on the land records of Assumption, Lafourche and Terrebonne parishes being offered by Ms. Audrey Westerman, certified genealogist and historian for the Terrebonne Genealogy Society [TGS - see description below.] I've purchased this book and it is a "goldmine" of information about all the early settlers [including the 1785 Acadians]. It is worth much more than the $25.00 sale price which includes shipping. See http://www.thecajuns.com/books.htm Stanley LeBlanc www.thecajuns.com ***description of book*** "Assumption Parish LA Original Cahier Records, Books 1 thru 5, 1786-1813" by Kenneth B. Toups - LC Card 91-75055, soft covers, 118 pages, Velo binding. every name index. $25 each (postage included) Translated and abstracted French land records from the time of Valenzuela District (Spanish Province) to the establishment of Lafourche County (Territory of Orleans) to its separation into Assumption and Lafourche Interior Parishes (Louisiana statehood). These records are from the first five Cahier books which are filed in Assumption Parish, but contain records of land in Assumption, Lafourche and Terrebonne Parishes today. Sellers and buyers are given, with a description of the land and bordering neighbor landowners. Price of the sale, be it money - barter - or swap for other land, is detailed. A stylized map is included, showing the distance of current landmarks in leagues (1 league = 3 miles) from the Mississippi River which helps to locate the neighborhood of the land. Many of the records state the name of the original owner who received the land by grant from the Spanish government

    02/17/2004 12:37:01
    1. Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Fw: [Huguenot] Genealogical Records
    2. Deboo5
    3. Thanks, Kinta! I made provision in my will for someone in my family to "inherit" my genealogy work, but this document is a good idea to convey my exact wishes for the work. dj <<<<Genealogical Codicil to My Last Will and Testament>>>>

    02/17/2004 12:25:43
    1. RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Acadians and nobility
    2. Scott Michaud
    3. Another reason would be the threat of death or exile for some French noble families. Not to open the whole "Huguenot Acadian" argument up again, but for the noble families that found themselves on the wrong side of the Protestant/Catholic wars of religion in France at the time -- a war fought in large part across the homes and fields of many of our Acadian ancestors in western France, by the way -- the new world looked like a much better option... -- Scott Michaud ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Lucie LeBlanc Consentino" <LucieMC@comcast.net> To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Acadians and nobility Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:27:23 -0500 Hi Listers, I have received this today in response to my post of the other day: <<I agree with everything you said about Stephen White, but I noted your rationale regarding the LeBlanc ancestry was a little off the mark. You said: "Moreover, when one thinks about it, why would someone from a family of nobility - in other words a family that was very comfortable in French society leave France to become a farmer in the 1600s? That was highly unlikely." What about the Damours of Québec and Acadia? Charles, who married Marie-Anne Thibodeau about 1695, was a descendant of the Royal families of Europe, including William I "The Conqueror" Duc de Normandie & Charlemagne. I agree that most of the immigrants were peasants, but there were a few more like Charles Damours. Note that I didn't publish this on the Acadian-Cajun list, because I have too much respect for your contributions to that list.>> I do appreciate the message that I received today and I thought I would respond on the list as well for everybody to know my response: <<I thought of all that when I posted but I was not going to get into all of the family lineages and as you noted I specifically mentioned the LeBlanc family *not* being connected to nobility in any way. I think everyone understood my intent. For 99% of the families who went to Acadia, what I said was true. The D'amours were in Quebec before they went to Acadia. Mathieu D’Amours was a counselor to the King. Things were better there. Another reason I did not mention them nor the D'Entremonts, etc. was because I would then have to mention how they were all given seigneuries... which proves what I said - again: why would people of nobility go to pioneer as farmers. In the case of the D'Amours, d'Entremonts, etc., they did not become farmers - they were given land and others did the work. That was my point.>> I guess I was trying to keep my post short and it probably was too short and misleading though I hope not. Now you have the “other side of the story.” <smile> Lucie Lucie LeBlanc Consentino Acadian & French Canadian Ancestral Home <http://acadian-home.org> http://acadian-home.org <http://www.acadian-home.org> http://www.promises.acadian-home.org/frames.html CMA 2004 - <http://www.cma2004.com/> www.cma2004.com Grand-Pré - <http://www.grand-pre.com/> www.grand-pre.com/ <http://www.umoncton.ca/etudeacadiennes/centre/cea.html> www.umoncton.ca/etudeacadiennes/centre/cea.html <http://www.umoncton.ca/etudeacadiennes> ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 _________________________________________________________________ Watch high-quality video with fast playback at MSN Video. Free! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200365ave/direct/01/

    02/17/2004 06:42:07
    1. [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Acadians and nobility
    2. Lucie LeBlanc Consentino
    3. Hi Listers, I have received this today in response to my post of the other day: <<I agree with everything you said about Stephen White, but I noted your rationale regarding the LeBlanc ancestry was a little off the mark. You said: "Moreover, when one thinks about it, why would someone from a family of nobility - in other words a family that was very comfortable in French society leave France to become a farmer in the 1600s? That was highly unlikely." What about the Damours of Québec and Acadia? Charles, who married Marie-Anne Thibodeau about 1695, was a descendant of the Royal families of Europe, including William I "The Conqueror" Duc de Normandie & Charlemagne. I agree that most of the immigrants were peasants, but there were a few more like Charles Damours. Note that I didn't publish this on the Acadian-Cajun list, because I have too much respect for your contributions to that list.>> I do appreciate the message that I received today and I thought I would respond on the list as well for everybody to know my response: <<I thought of all that when I posted but I was not going to get into all of the family lineages and as you noted I specifically mentioned the LeBlanc family *not* being connected to nobility in any way. I think everyone understood my intent. For 99% of the families who went to Acadia, what I said was true. The D'amours were in Quebec before they went to Acadia. Mathieu D’Amours was a counselor to the King. Things were better there. Another reason I did not mention them nor the D'Entremonts, etc. was because I would then have to mention how they were all given seigneuries... which proves what I said - again: why would people of nobility go to pioneer as farmers. In the case of the D'Amours, d'Entremonts, etc., they did not become farmers - they were given land and others did the work. That was my point.>> I guess I was trying to keep my post short and it probably was too short and misleading though I hope not. Now you have the “other side of the story.” <smile> Lucie Lucie LeBlanc Consentino Acadian & French Canadian Ancestral Home <http://acadian-home.org> http://acadian-home.org <http://www.acadian-home.org> http://www.promises.acadian-home.org/frames.html CMA 2004 - <http://www.cma2004.com/> www.cma2004.com Grand-Pré - <http://www.grand-pre.com/> www.grand-pre.com/ <http://www.umoncton.ca/etudeacadiennes/centre/cea.html> www.umoncton.ca/etudeacadiennes/centre/cea.html <http://www.umoncton.ca/etudeacadiennes>

    02/17/2004 06:27:23
    1. RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Fw: [Huguenot] Genealogical Records
    2. Dan LaFever
    3. Dan LaFever, here... Mom was LaVeda LaFever out of Oklahoma... left 41 yrs ago for SF... anyone come across any LaFevers from Oklahoma or happen to know LaVeda or any of her relatives? -----Original Message----- From: Cajun [mailto:cajun@thecajuns.com] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 6:43 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Fw: [Huguenot] Genealogical Records Thanks Kinta, This is a good idea - everyone should make provision for "passing the torch"! I am personally interested in receiving any Acadian-Cajun-Louisiana genealogical records if there aren't any other available custodians. By the way, I have a CD entitled: Immigrant Histories: Huguenot Settlers in North America and Europe, 16600s-1900s If anyone is interested in checking a surname or a copy, please contact me off list. Stanley LeBlanc www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: Kinta Delamain [mailto:kintad@charter.net] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 8:16 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Fw: [Huguenot] Genealogical Records Subject: [Huguenot] Genealogical Records > This has been posted to several lists thought it was a valuable tool > for the > genealogist... > > Genealogical Codicil to My Last Will and Testament > > > > To my spouse, children, guardian, administrator and/or executor: > > > > Upon my demise it is requested that you DO NOT dispose of any or all > > of my > genealogical records, both those prepared personally by me and those records > prepared by others which may be in my possession, including but not limited > to books, files, notebooks or computer programs for a period of two > years. > > > > During this time period, please attempt to identify one or more > > persons > who would be willing to take custody of the said materials and the > responsibility of maintaining and continuing the family histories. [If > you know whom within your family or friends are likely candidates to > accept these materials, please add the following at this point: "I > suggest that the persons contacted regarding the assumption of the > custody of these items > include but not be limited to" and then list the names of those individuals > at this point, with their > > addresses and telephone numbers if known] > > > > In the event you do no find anyone to accept these materials, please > contact the various genealogical organizations that I have been a > member of > and determine if they will accept some parts or all of my genealogical > materials. [List of organizations, addresses and phone numbers at > bottom; include local chapters, with their addresses, phone numbers > and contact persons if available as well as state/national contact > information and addresses] > > > > Please remember that my genealogical endeavors consumed a great deal > > of > time, travel, and money. Therefore it is my desire that the products > of these endeavors be allowed to continue in a manner that will make > them available to others in the future. > > > > > > Signature ___________________________ Date ___________ > > > > > > Witness ____________________________ Date ___________ > > > > > > Witness ____________________________ Date ___________ > > > ==== Huguenot Mailing List ==== > To leave the list, send a new email to HUGUENOT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > and type UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject line and text area > > (if you get the digest, replace -L with -D) > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/ACADIAN-CAJUN.html This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 ********************************************************************** ATTENTION: All e-mail sent to or from this address will be received or otherwise recorded by the Stone & Youngberg LLC e-mail system and is subject to archival, monitoring or review by, and/or disclosure to, someone other than the recipient. **********************************************************************

    02/17/2004 01:42:24
    1. [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Fw: [Huguenot] Genealogical Records
    2. Kinta Delamain
    3. Subject: [Huguenot] Genealogical Records > This has been posted to several lists thought it was a valuable tool for the > genealogist... > > Genealogical Codicil to My Last Will and Testament > > > > To my spouse, children, guardian, administrator and/or executor: > > > > Upon my demise it is requested that you DO NOT dispose of any or all of my > genealogical records, both those prepared personally by me and those records > prepared by others which may be in my possession, including but not limited > to books, files, notebooks or computer programs for a period of two years. > > > > During this time period, please attempt to identify one or more persons > who would be willing to take custody of the said materials and the > responsibility of maintaining and continuing the family histories. [If you > know whom within your family or friends are likely candidates to accept > these materials, please add the following at this point: "I suggest that > the persons contacted regarding the assumption of the custody of these items > include but not be limited to" and then list the names of those individuals > at this point, with their > > addresses and telephone numbers if known] > > > > In the event you do no find anyone to accept these materials, please > contact the various genealogical organizations that I have been a member of > and determine if they will accept some parts or all of my genealogical > materials. [List of organizations, addresses and phone numbers at bottom; > include local chapters, with their addresses, phone numbers and contact > persons if available as well as state/national contact information and > addresses] > > > > Please remember that my genealogical endeavors consumed a great deal of > time, travel, and money. Therefore it is my desire that the products of > these endeavors be allowed to continue in a manner that will make them > available to others in the future. > > > > > > Signature ___________________________ Date ___________ > > > > > > Witness ____________________________ Date ___________ > > > > > > Witness ____________________________ Date ___________ > > > ==== Huguenot Mailing List ==== > To leave the list, send a new email to HUGUENOT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM and type UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject line and text area > > (if you get the digest, replace -L with -D) > >

    02/16/2004 02:16:08
    1. RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Fw: [Huguenot] Genealogical Records
    2. Cajun
    3. Thanks Kinta, This is a good idea - everyone should make provision for "passing the torch"! I am personally interested in receiving any Acadian-Cajun-Louisiana genealogical records if there aren't any other available custodians. By the way, I have a CD entitled: Immigrant Histories: Huguenot Settlers in North America and Europe, 16600s-1900s If anyone is interested in checking a surname or a copy, please contact me off list. Stanley LeBlanc www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: Kinta Delamain [mailto:kintad@charter.net] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 8:16 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Fw: [Huguenot] Genealogical Records Subject: [Huguenot] Genealogical Records > This has been posted to several lists thought it was a valuable tool > for the > genealogist... > > Genealogical Codicil to My Last Will and Testament > > > > To my spouse, children, guardian, administrator and/or executor: > > > > Upon my demise it is requested that you DO NOT dispose of any or all > > of my > genealogical records, both those prepared personally by me and those records > prepared by others which may be in my possession, including but not limited > to books, files, notebooks or computer programs for a period of two > years. > > > > During this time period, please attempt to identify one or more > > persons > who would be willing to take custody of the said materials and the > responsibility of maintaining and continuing the family histories. [If > you know whom within your family or friends are likely candidates to > accept these materials, please add the following at this point: "I > suggest that the persons contacted regarding the assumption of the > custody of these items > include but not be limited to" and then list the names of those individuals > at this point, with their > > addresses and telephone numbers if known] > > > > In the event you do no find anyone to accept these materials, please > contact the various genealogical organizations that I have been a > member of > and determine if they will accept some parts or all of my genealogical > materials. [List of organizations, addresses and phone numbers at > bottom; include local chapters, with their addresses, phone numbers > and contact persons if available as well as state/national contact > information and addresses] > > > > Please remember that my genealogical endeavors consumed a great deal > > of > time, travel, and money. Therefore it is my desire that the products > of these endeavors be allowed to continue in a manner that will make > them available to others in the future. > > > > > > Signature ___________________________ Date ___________ > > > > > > Witness ____________________________ Date ___________ > > > > > > Witness ____________________________ Date ___________ > > > ==== Huguenot Mailing List ==== > To leave the list, send a new email to HUGUENOT-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM > and type UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject line and text area > > (if you get the digest, replace -L with -D) > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/ACADIAN-CAJUN.html This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

    02/16/2004 01:43:03
    1. RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Charles LeBlanc - additional info requested
    2. Cajun
    3. I only have his birth info. Two of his siblings [Pierre and Anne] died in Liverpool, England. Stanley LeBlanc www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: Henry Seymour [mailto:henry@seymour-family.com] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 10:43 AM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Charles LeBlanc - additional info requested Does anyone know more about the Charles LeBlanc shown below? Thanks, Henry Jean LeBlanc (Jean, Andre, Francoise Gaudet, Marie Francoise Comeau, Pierre, Jean, Jean, Claude, Guy, Guy) was born 1703 in Grand Pre, Acadia, and died September 14, 1779 in Belle Isle En Mer, France. He married Francoise Blanchard July 9, 1726 in Grand Pre, Acadia. Children of Jean LeBlanc and Francoise Blanchard are: i. Pierre12 LeBlanc, born August 3, 1734 in St. Charles Mines, Acadia. ii. Alexis LeBlanc, born February 1741/42. iii. Charles LeBlanc, born February 1744/45. iv. Marguerite LeBlanc, born July 1746. ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

    02/16/2004 12:39:45
    1. [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Bordelon Family
    2. Riverlands Insurance Agency, Inc.
    3. I am looking for any information on the parents of Osval Bordelon (b 1879) of Marksville, LA. His name is sometimes misspelled as Orval. He was married to Sedonia (Rabalais?). They had eight children; Hernandes (Henry), Emanuel, Winnie, Caroline, Cilton, Linster, Hector (my grandfather), and Mamie. Any leads you could provide, would be most appreciated. Terry Bordelon LaPlace, LA

    02/16/2004 03:49:49
    1. [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Charles LeBlanc - additional info requested
    2. Henry Seymour
    3. Does anyone know more about the Charles LeBlanc shown below? Thanks, Henry Jean LeBlanc (Jean, Andre, Francoise Gaudet, Marie Francoise Comeau, Pierre, Jean, Jean, Claude, Guy, Guy) was born 1703 in Grand Pre, Acadia, and died September 14, 1779 in Belle Isle En Mer, France. He married Francoise Blanchard July 9, 1726 in Grand Pre, Acadia. Children of Jean LeBlanc and Francoise Blanchard are: i. Pierre12 LeBlanc, born August 3, 1734 in St. Charles Mines, Acadia. ii. Alexis LeBlanc, born February 1741/42. iii. Charles LeBlanc, born February 1744/45. iv. Marguerite LeBlanc, born July 1746.

    02/16/2004 03:43:21
    1. Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] COMEAU Family
    2. Edmond Barrieau
    3. Good morning Stanley: Thanks for your letter. I am aware that there were other important sources of data than census reports. However, the censuses were the main sources of data about the formation of families. As you are aware, the parochial registers were few. It then made it necessary to take an educated guess as to which person married which. Of course, Placide Gaudet,and many others contributed much. I am still convinced that it was the crew at Centre d'Etude Acadiennes who most often sifted through such collections as Placide and were able to arrive at what was true and what was not. I was fortunate in having my "trees" reviewed ,in person,by Steve White and by Marcel Barrieau.As a result, the data that I had gotten out of my Arsenault was corrected when necessary. I don't think I am unduly defensive of Steve.I was doing Acadian and French-Canadian genealogy at a time when there were still few Franco Genealogists. If one was Acadian, as I am, one would buy the Arsenault set, then, go to work. Fortunately, I early on established a contact with Steve White and others at the Centre. Long afterward, I suffered the letters to Janet Jehn that repeated the errors that had been gotten from Arsenault. Now that the Computer is here, we read a repetition of errors from the same sources. Those who repeat these errors are unaware that the only source of relatively accurate Acadian data is SAW. Just a few weeks ago, I answered a letter asking why the adulation of Steve. I tried to give a brief history of Acadian and French-Canadian genealogies and the differences, particularly the evolution of Acadian. It is the establishment and growth of the Centre d'Etude Acadiennes and the arrival of Steve that has given us a place that provides a "scientific",methodical and thorough place that IS the ultimate source that we can look to. Those who don't realize that SAW IS the uniquely competent "Franco" genealogical organization are cheating themselves. I waited about 15 years for the DICTIONNAIRES, asking Steve when the books would come out. He always begged off, saying that they were not complete or accurate. It is regrettable that the next 2 books will only fill a portion of the need ! There are still many errors to be corrected. I am fortunate that Steve corrected mine. I am aware that there was a LeBlanc king. Also, there was a deCommeaux, but not part of the Acadian COMEAU.It is always regrettable that wishful thinking has us seeking nobility and royalty where they are NOT.I'm sure you agree that the truth is preferable to a pipe-dream.In my BARRIEAU History,I explain that Coats of Arms are almost non-existent among Acadians. Another error- the many families from Martaize--derived from Genevieve Massignon. For those on a tight budget and for those who do not have large Acadian lines, one would wish they could get the DICTIONNAIRES data. I imagine you will attend the LeBlanc reunion.I'll attend the BARRIEAU one,starting 8/13 (which is my 80th birthday). If you will, would you tell me about your line, also, where you live,etc. My very best,Stanley, ED(mond) BARRIEAU 10208 Calle Chulita NW, Albuquerque,NM 87114-5359 edlor13@comcast.net 1-505-792-9939 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cajun" <cajun@thecajuns.com> To: <ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 9:25 PM Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] COMEAU Family > Ed, > > On this and a couple of previous posts, you seem to be defending SAW > against unseen critics. Acadian genealogy is based upon a lot more than > just the census records as documented by the lengthy list of references > in Le Dictionnaire. > > It isn't necessary to downplay the work of those who preceded SAW. SAW > graciously acknowledges the work of many others who have contributed and > are contributing to Acadian genealogy. > > For the record, the Le Blanc line in France was connected to Royalty > [not the Acadian Le Blanc line]. > > Stanley LeBlanc > www.thecajuns.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Edmond Barrieau [mailto:edlor13@comcast.net] > Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:30 PM > To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] COMEAU Family > > > Good morning: > About the Comeau Family, we have a typical piece of Acadian wishful > thinking. I have been assembling both Acadian and French-Canadian > Genealogy for almost 30 years. My own ancestry is 97% Acadian, 3% > French-Canadian. Until 2 years ago,I lived close to excellent > French-Canadian data sources. Almost invariably, such sources will > supply the points of origin in France, including names of parents, and > the actual parish. > > Acadian genealogy, on the other hand, was based largely on data gotten > from census reports. Such data lent itself to error. Bona Arsenault, who > was NOT a genealogist, used methods that often produced erroneous > conclusions as to who married whom. > I had the good fortune of consulting with Steve White many times, > several times in his office. Frequently, I have read letters asking why > we hold Steve up as a God. Simply, Steve and his operation in Moncton > are by far the most thorough, best organized Genealogical organization > doing any sort of French Genealogy. For many years, there have been > letters tying Commeau to deCommeau, LeBlanc to French royalty,parents of > JEAN BLANCHARD, and of FRANCOIS GUERIN,etc.,etc. > It has been several years since these errors have been corrected by > Steve White. If one has a significant amount of Acadian ancestry, I > would urge the purchase of the Steve White "DICTIONNAIRES". However, I > must caution that, generally, errors (often in Arsenault) that were made > on Genealogy > > after 1714 will not show up in these books.There then are two > alternatives, 1)to go to CENTRE d'ETUDE ACADIENNES, in Moncton, or 2) > to wait for the next set of books, later this year. ACADIAN genealogy is > NOT easy !! For those who do not have a lot of Acadian, write in with > your problems, and hope that your answers have up-to-date and correct > answers. As for spellings of names, my own name has 30+ spellings. The > first BARRIEAU(BARILLOT) could not write,so the first census taker use > a spelling with which he was familiar. Very probably, the same thing > occurred with COMEAU.What is correct? WE DO NOT KNOW !! Hope this letter > throws a little light !! > > ED BARRIEAU Albuquerque, NM 87114 > > edlor13@comcast.net > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/ACADIAN-CAJUN.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/ACADIAN-CAJUN.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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    02/16/2004 02:28:45
    1. RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] COMEAU Family
    2. Lucie LeBlanc Consentino
    3. Hi Ed, Well I am personally happy to see someone besides me publicly defend and uphold the work of Stephen White. Though true that other works and researchers preceded him, it is also true that he is the one who has taken some of those works to prove or disprove them before he could move forward with his own work and so that we would all have the most accurate information available at this time in our history. When people say how long they waited for the first two volumes that we now have in hand, that is why. It has always been a matter of more digging and accuracy. There are also some people on this list who Stephen White has helped when they were stuck and could go no further. So it is good to give him his due. For a long time, it was believed that my first Ancestor, Daniel LeBlanc, came from a family of nobility in France. There was no connection whatsoever. Stephen White has not been able to find a link from him to such a family. Moreover, when one thinks about it, why would someone from a family of nobility - in other words a family that was very comfortable in French society leave France to become a farmer in the 1600s? That was highly unlikely. The many parish registers, census records, land grants, and other documents available to him, attest to the work of Stephen White. It is fitting when he is recognized for the true and great contribution he has made for whose benefit but our own? People should also be made aware that he receives **no royalties** whatsoever for the "Dictionnaire" published in 1999. The work belongs to the Moncton University his employer. When all is said and done, Stephen White's work has made our research so much easier than it was and the next volumes will make it easier still. Stephen White will not receive royalties for any future volumes that will be published either. Now thse will contain where our Ancestors were exiled and/or imprisoned [all were not exiled and many were imprisoned], who was born, who married, who died and where they went post-deportation. Let us not kid ourselves because this is no easy task. One does not take the work of another without wondering if it is accurate and where it came from. That is why Stephen White has listed all of his sources in the Dictionnaire so that one may go back and verify all of the information available if one wanted to. So Ed, my hat is off to you for recognizing the great work of who I consider to be a great man at this time in our Acadian history. Thank you! Lucie Lucie LeBlanc Consentino Acadian & French Canadian Ancestral Home http://acadian-home.org http://www.promises.acadian-home.org/frames.html CMA 2004 - www.cma2004.com Grand-Pré - www.grand-pre.com/ www.umoncton.ca/etudeacadiennes/centre/cea.html -----Original Message----- From: Edmond Barrieau [mailto:edlor13@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 12:30 PM To: ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] COMEAU Family Good morning: About the Comeau Family, we have a typical piece of Acadian wishful thinking. I have been assembling both Acadian and French-Canadian Genealogy for almost 30 years. My own ancestry is 97% Acadian, 3% French-Canadian. Until 2 years ago,I lived close to excellent French-Canadian data sources. Almost invariably, such sources will supply the points of origin in France, including names of parents, and the actual parish. Acadian genealogy, on the other hand, was based largely on data gotten from census reports. Such data lent itself to error. Bona Arsenault, who was NOT a genealogist, used methods that often produced erroneous conclusions as to who married whom. I had the good fortune of consulting with Steve White many times, several times in his office. Frequently, I have read letters asking why we hold Steve up as a God. Simply, Steve and his operation in Moncton are by far the most thorough, best organized Genealogical organization doing any sort of French Genealogy. For many years, there have been letters tying Commeau to deCommeau, LeBlanc to French royalty,parents of JEAN BLANCHARD, and of FRANCOIS GUERIN,etc.,etc. It has been several years since these errors have been corrected by Steve White. If one has a significant amount of Acadian ancestry, I would urge the purchase of the Steve White "DICTIONNAIRES". However, I must caution that, generally, errors (often in Arsenault) that were made on Genealogy after 1714 will not show up in these books.There then are two alternatives, 1)to go to CENTRE d'ETUDE ACADIENNES, in Moncton, or 2) to wait for the next set of books, later this year. ACADIAN genealogy is NOT easy !! For those who do not have a lot of Acadian, write in with your problems, and hope that your answers have up-to-date and correct answers. As for spellings of names, my own name has 30+ spellings. The first BARRIEAU(BARILLOT) could not write,so the first census taker use a spelling with which he was familiar. Very probably, the same thing occurred with COMEAU.What is correct? WE DO NOT KNOW !! Hope this letter throws a little light !! ED BARRIEAU Albuquerque, NM 87114 edlor13@comcast.net ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/ACADIAN-CAJUN.html This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. 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    02/15/2004 10:15:02