Lucie, Your post refreshed my memory re a discussion of whether the 1764 Arrivals came from New York to Georgia to Mobile or if they had gone to New York from Georgia and then returned to Georgia before going to Mobile. Also, the phrase "more of the Acadians" indicate that there were others who had left Georgia - perhaps they went to St. Domingue. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: Lucie LeBlanc Consentino [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Georgia Gazette 1763 According to an article in the Georgia Gazette dated December 22, 1763: "Yesterday more of the Acadians, in number about 21, went in a vessel for Mobille, from which place they are to go to New Orleans." Lucie LeBlanc Consentino Acadian Ancestral Home <http://www.acadian-home.org> www.acadian-home.org ACGS Drouin Primary Records <http://www.acgs.org/> www.acgs.org ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== To verify the RootsWeb Mailing Lists to which you are currently subscribed, check Password Central: http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ Mark the box to have a list of your subscribed lists e-mailed to you. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx
According to an article in the Georgia Gazette dated December 22, 1763: "Yesterday more of the Acadians, in number about 21, went in a vessel for Mobille, from which place they are to go to New Orleans." Lucie LeBlanc Consentino Acadian Ancestral Home <http://www.acadian-home.org> www.acadian-home.org ACGS Drouin Primary Records <http://www.acgs.org/> www.acgs.org
Regarding the exhibit at the Commonwealth Museum: The archivist who put the exhibit together is not Acadian but was very moved by the documents he came across regarding the exile of the Acadians from Nova Scotia. So much so that he asked for permission to put the exhibit together. In addition to all of the petitions and records contained in Volumes XXIII and XXIV at the archives [which are all of the petitions, etc.] he contacted the Massachusetts Historical Society and was able to scan some of the documents from Winslow's Diary and other pertinent and important documents. It is a simply marvelous exhibit both at the museum and online! It is the first time such an exhibit has been put together by the State of Massachusetts 250 years after the first Acadians arrived in Boston as exiles. As an Acadian descendant, I am very grateful to Mark Vassar, the archivist who put it all together. The exhibit was supposed to end in June as I had posted earlier but Mark now tells me that it will remain for another six months and perhaps more - he will keep me informed. Again, the url is: http://www.sec.state.ma.us/mus/exhibits/onlineexhibits/acadianonline/acaidx3 .htm Lucie LeBlanc Consentino Acadian Ancestral Home <http://www.acadian-home.org> www.acadian-home.org ACGS Drouin Primary Records <http://www.acgs.org/> www.acgs.org
Hi, In addition, Elton covers the areas of responsibility of Cantrelle & Verret as well. :-) AS -----Original Message----- From: Stanley LeBlanc [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 Paul, The Germans were definitely non-French! They also played a major role in Colonial Louisiana. The large influx of settlers between 1718-1721 came from Hainaut [now part of Belgium], Alsace-Lorriane, Switzerland and the German States [The Nation State of Germany didn't exist until 1871]. The original intent was to send the German settlers to the Arkansas Post, but the Company of the West Indies went bust and Louisiana became a Crown Colony in 1721. Thus, the First and second German Coast has existed since 1718 and 1721. The French-Creoles were at Pointe Coupee. Elton Oubre spent 25 years researching the issue that you mention. It is all explained in his book Vacherie. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 Weren't the NY Acadians settled with/near the Germans (non-French Europeans)? There really were no hard boundries of Verret, Cantrelle, German Coast was there? We know that they approximately ended near Verret's & Cantrelle's other son-in-law homes. but didn't each census have different boundries? Commandant (Pierre) Nicholas Verret was my 5th ggfather so anyting I can do to help please ask. Paul Le B [email protected] wrote: >The New York group arrived in 1764 but didn't go to Attakapas. Some men of >the 1764 group showed up on Verret's Company in April 1766, but aren't on >the 1766 or 1769 census of The Acadian Coast. They show up on the 1777 >census. Roger Rozendal [with help from Elton Oubre] has been trying to find >out more about Verret's Company and the 1766 and 1769 census. > >Stanley LeBlanc >http://www.thecajuns.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:35 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > >Review of French & Indian War show >http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/ourviews/2215787.html > >letter to the editor >http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/letters/2250541.html > >enjoy > >Weren't the 20 from NY? here before Broussard? > >Paul Le B >l'Ascension LA > > >==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== >The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to >the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the >person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== To verify the RootsWeb Mailing Lists to which you are currently subscribed, check Password Central: http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ Mark the box to have a list of your subscribed lists e-mailed to you. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.acadian-caj un This is a link to the Acadian-Cajun Message Board at RootsWeb. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx
Hi all, This is a very good exhibit, but of course I am prejudice. :-) It shows the length that legislatures and persons of interest went to, to understate the events and the real reasons that Joseph & other Acadians found themselves in the Commonwealth. To use the term "visitor" is silly, but it could have been used in ignorance as well. In those times, there were other types of "indentured" workers. Perhaps the historians of the times saw these French Neutrals in the same way. ??? Andy -----Original Message----- From: Stanley LeBlanc [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Commonwealth Museum Exhibit Sorry for the typo. Selectment should be Selectmen. Of course, "forced labor" is a more appropriate term than "enslavement" but the end result was the same for the duration of the Indenture! Stanley -----Original Message----- From: Stanley LeBlanc [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Commonwealth Museum Exhibit What I find interesting is the following excerpt: "...Joseph Michel's eldest sons were forcibly indentured by two of the selectment of Marshfield..." Indentured was the "politically correct" term for enslavement! Don't forget that the Governor of Massachussetts was the prime supporter of Gov. Lawrence in exiling the Acadians. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Commonwealth Museum Exhibit Andy What did Joseph Michel do to be considered a VISITOR???? see # 5 a case Study. References include two of his partitions. Paul Le B l'Ascension, LA [email protected] wrote: >The Acadian exhibit at the Massachusetts Commonwealth Museum online has been >expanded - it will be removed in June: > > > >http://www.sec.state.ma.us/mus/exhibits/onlineexhibits/acadianonline/acaidx 3 >.htm > > > > > >Lucie LeBlanc Consentino > >Acadian Ancestral Home > > <http://www.acadian-home.org> www.acadian-home.org > >ACGS Drouin Primary Records > > <http://www.acgs.org/> www.acgs.org > > > > > > > >==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== >The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== Please remember when writing a personal 'thank you' to only hit reply so just the person you are thanking receives it. When answering a query please hit reply all so we all might benefit. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== Please remember when writing a personal 'thank you' to only hit reply so just the person you are thanking receives it. When answering a query please hit reply all so we all might benefit. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== To verify the RootsWeb Mailing Lists to which you are currently subscribed, check Password Central: http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ Mark the box to have a list of your subscribed lists e-mailed to you. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx
1721 was 7 years after Natchitoches was settled! An interesting romantic story involves St. Denis [Denys]. St. Denys was a French-Canadian from a very prominent family who had come into Louisiana with Iberville and Bienville. Soon after establishing Natchitoches in 1714, he led a trading party into Texas. He was arrested. While awaiting transport to Mexico City, he fell in love with the niece of the Spanish Governor. When he was released, he married the niece and their descendants remain in Louisiana some have become Cajuns! Another interesting historical tidbit! When the Spanish gained control of Louisiana in 1763 [didnt take control until 1766], the role of the Spanish at Los Adaes was clouded. Finally, the Viceroy decided that the Spanish would have to leave Los Adaes and go to San Antonio. The Spanish from Los Adaes were miserable in San Antonio and convinced the authorities to let them go to Nacogdoches, Texas. Since Nacogodoches was close to the Louisiana border, many former Los Adaes families gradually moved back into Louisiana. The SWLR records have numerous references to Los Adaes. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com <http://www.thecajuns.com/> _____ From: Roger Rozendal [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:21 PM To: Stanley LeBlanc Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 According to "The Handbook of Texas Online": The Marqués de San Miguel de Aguayoqv was a veteran soldier and a wealthy man, thanks to his wife, Ignacia Xaviera de Echeverez, who owned vast estates in Coahuila. At his own expense, he accepted the viceroy's request to deal with the troublesome situation in Texas and to undertake the establishment of missions in East Texas for a third time. In the early spring of 1721, Aguayo set out for Texas. He had recruited 500 men and collected 2,800 horses, 4,800 cattle, and 6,400 sheep and goats. Although livestock had accompanied previous entradas, Spanish ranching in Texas began with the arrival of these large herds in 1721. Aguayo reestablished all of the abandoned missions in East Texas; founded a new presidio, Nuestra Señora del Pilar, at Los Adaes;qv and made a lasting peace with St. Denis, who had become commandant of the French settlement at Natchitoches. http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/SS/nps1.html Roger A. Rozendal On Jan 30, 2006, at 7:12 PM, Stanley LeBlanc wrote: The Spanish cattle Industry in Texas cannot chronologically predate the Louisiana cattle industry. Natchitoches was founded in 1714 and created large cattle herds. The Spanish moved to Las Adaes [current-day Robeline, LA - 14 miles west of Natchitoches on LA 6] in response to the Natchitoches settlement. Thus, the capitol of Colonial Spanish Texas was in current-day Louisiana and was established after Natchitoches! One can argue about the definition of Texas, but the fact remains that the Cattle industry in current-day Louisiana clearly predated the cattle industry in Spanish Colonial Texas! Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com
It wasn't ignorance on the part of the officials. The Acadians were forced upon the Colonies. The main problem was that the Acadians were supposed to be British Subjects but were prisoners of war although the officials refused to treat them as prisoners of war since this would have required them to provide shelter, food, clothing, etc. There were other indentured servants at that time, but these were persons who had "voluntarily" agreed to pay for passage, shelter and food and learning a trade as an "indentured" servant. The Acadians were forcibly removed from their land and exiles. Stanley -----Original Message----- From: Andy [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:20 PM To: 'Stanley LeBlanc'; [email protected] Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Commonwealth Museum Exhibit Hi all, This is a very good exhibit, but of course I am prejudice. :-) It shows the length that legislatures and persons of interest went to, to understate the events and the real reasons that Joseph & other Acadians found themselves in the Commonwealth. To use the term "visitor" is silly, but it could have been used in ignorance as well. In those times, there were other types of "indentured" workers. Perhaps the historians of the times saw these French Neutrals in the same way. ??? Andy -----Original Message----- From: Stanley LeBlanc [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Commonwealth Museum Exhibit Sorry for the typo. Selectment should be Selectmen. Of course, "forced labor" is a more appropriate term than "enslavement" but the end result was the same for the duration of the Indenture! Stanley -----Original Message----- From: Stanley LeBlanc [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Commonwealth Museum Exhibit What I find interesting is the following excerpt: "...Joseph Michel's eldest sons were forcibly indentured by two of the selectment of Marshfield..." Indentured was the "politically correct" term for enslavement! Don't forget that the Governor of Massachussetts was the prime supporter of Gov. Lawrence in exiling the Acadians. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 12:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Commonwealth Museum Exhibit Andy What did Joseph Michel do to be considered a VISITOR???? see # 5 a case Study. References include two of his partitions. Paul Le B l'Ascension, LA [email protected] wrote: >The Acadian exhibit at the Massachusetts Commonwealth Museum online has been >expanded - it will be removed in June: > > > >http://www.sec.state.ma.us/mus/exhibits/onlineexhibits/acadianonline/acaidx 3 >.htm > > > > > >Lucie LeBlanc Consentino > >Acadian Ancestral Home > > <http://www.acadian-home.org> www.acadian-home.org > >ACGS Drouin Primary Records > > <http://www.acgs.org/> www.acgs.org > > > > > > > >==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== >The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== Please remember when writing a personal 'thank you' to only hit reply so just the person you are thanking receives it. When answering a query please hit reply all so we all might benefit. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== Please remember when writing a personal 'thank you' to only hit reply so just the person you are thanking receives it. When answering a query please hit reply all so we all might benefit. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== To verify the RootsWeb Mailing Lists to which you are currently subscribed, check Password Central: http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ Mark the box to have a list of your subscribed lists e-mailed to you. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx
I thought about New Mexico and Florida. The Spanish clearly had a cattle industry in North America prior to the French. The discussion I thought related to cattle drives! The Spanish weren't driving cattle from New Mexico or Texas into Louisiana in 1765. The French, however, were driving cattle within current-day Louisiana beginning in 1765. Highway 90 is the Old Santa Fe Trail. I do agree with Judy that the Cajuns weren't the first cowboys since the French at Natchitoches had been raising cattle since 1714! The cattle in Attakapas in all probability came from the herds at Natchitoches. Stanley LeBlanc http://thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: Judy Riffel [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 I wouldn't rule out New Mexico, which is not only part of America but the United States. Judy Riffel Baton Rouge, LA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul L Le Blanc" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > It was my understanding that the Broussards & others practiced what is now > called open range cattle raising near the NS / NB border and were able to > easily adapt to the Louisiana Prairie. I thought this experience was the > reason they were not settled along the river. Weren't there stories of > drives to BOTH French Fort Louisbourg & English Port Royal causeing > problems? So 1st cowboys North of Rio Grand were Acadian in Acadia!!!! > > Paul > > [email protected] wrote: > >>The Spanish cattle Industry in Texas cannot chronologically predate the >>Louisiana cattle industry. Natchitoches was founded in 1714 and created >>large cattle herds. The Spanish moved to Las Adaes [current-day Robeline, >>LA >>- 14 miles west of Natchitoches on LA 6] in response to the Natchitoches >>settlement. Thus, the capitol of Colonial Spanish Texas was in current-day >>Louisiana and was established after Natchitoches! >>One can argue about the definition of Texas, but the fact remains that the >>Cattle industry in current-day Louisiana clearly predated the cattle >>industry in Spanish Colonial Texas! >> >>Stanley LeBlanc >>http://www.thecajuns.com >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Judy Riffel [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, >>January 30, 2006 7:00 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >>Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 >> >>In addition to the error concerning the arrival date of the first group of >>Acadians in Louisiana, Mr. Bouillon is also in error about the first >>cowboys >> >>in America being Acadians. The Spanish cattle industry in Texas predates >>the Acadians by many years. In fact, many Cajun French words associated >>with ranching were Spanish words, for example, soutadaire. Although it >>sounds French, it's a Spanish word for a saddle blanket, although my >>grandmother often used it to describe an ugly coat! :) >> >>Judy Riffel >>Baton Rouge, LA >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Stanley LeBlanc" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:27 PM >>Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >>Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 >> >> >> >>>I've sent an email to Letters to the Editor of The Advocate - below is >>>the >>>text. I also sent an email to Warren Perrin. >>> >>>Stanley LeBlanc >>>http://www.thecajuns.com >>> >>> >>>***text of email sent to The Advocate*** >>> >>>Re: How Acadians came to Louisiana >>> >>>Published: Jan 29, 2006 >>> >>>RE: Correction to editorial: "War shaped nation, Louisiana" Jan. >>> >>>18. >>> >>>Mr. Bouillon, Director of the Acadian Museum in Erath stated that >>> >>>"...The first group of Acadians arrived in Louisiana in February >>> >>>1765, led by the guerrilla fighter Joseph Beausoleil Broussard..." >>> >>>The 1765 group led by Joseph Broussard was the first group to go >>> >>>to Attakapas, but the first group to arrive in Louisiana was a >>> >>>group of 20 who arrived in February 1764 from New York after a >>> >>>stay in Mobile, Alabama. >>> >>>For a complete report on the Arrival of the Acadians in Louisiana, >>> >>>see my Arrival of the Acadians page at >>> >>>http://www.thecajuns.com/acadians.htm on my web site dedicated to >>> >>>Cajun Genealogy, History and Culture. >>> >>>Stanley LeBlanc - a native New Iberian >>>http://www.thecajuns.com >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] >>>Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:35 PM >>>To: [email protected] >>>Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >>>Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 >>> >>>Review of French & Indian War show >>>http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/ourviews/2215787.html >>> >>>letter to the editor >>>http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/letters/2250541.html >>> >>>enjoy >>> >>>Weren't the 20 from NY? here before Broussard? >>> >>>Paul Le B >>>l'Ascension LA >>> >>> >>>==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== >>>The number one rule of this list is no flaming. 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According to "The Handbook of Texas Online": The Marqués de San Miguel de Aguayoqv was a veteran soldier and a wealthy man, thanks to his wife, Ignacia Xaviera de Echeverez, who owned vast estates in Coahuila. At his own expense, he accepted the viceroy's request to deal with the troublesome situation in Texas and to undertake the establishment of missions in East Texas for a third time. In the early spring of 1721, Aguayo set out for Texas. He had recruited 500 men and collected 2,800 horses, 4,800 cattle, and 6,400 sheep and goats. Although livestock had accompanied previous entradas, Spanish ranching in Texas began with the arrival of these large herds in 1721. Aguayo reestablished all of the abandoned missions in East Texas; founded a new presidio, Nuestra Señora del Pilar, at Los Adaes;qv and made a lasting peace with St. Denis, who had become commandant of the French settlement at Natchitoches. http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/SS/nps1.html Roger A. Rozendal On Jan 30, 2006, at 7:12 PM, Stanley LeBlanc wrote: > The Spanish cattle Industry in Texas cannot chronologically predate > the > Louisiana cattle industry. Natchitoches was founded in 1714 and > created > large cattle herds. The Spanish moved to Las Adaes [current-day > Robeline, LA > - 14 miles west of Natchitoches on LA 6] in response to the > Natchitoches > settlement. Thus, the capitol of Colonial Spanish Texas was in > current-day > Louisiana and was established after Natchitoches! > > One can argue about the definition of Texas, but the fact remains > that the > Cattle industry in current-day Louisiana clearly predated the cattle > industry in Spanish Colonial Texas! > > Stanley LeBlanc > http://www.thecajuns.com >
I wouldn't rule out New Mexico, which is not only part of America but the United States. Judy Riffel Baton Rouge, LA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul L Le Blanc" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > It was my understanding that the Broussards & others practiced what is now > called open range cattle raising near the NS / NB border and were able to > easily adapt to the Louisiana Prairie. I thought this experience was the > reason they were not settled along the river. Weren't there stories of > drives to BOTH French Fort Louisbourg & English Port Royal causeing > problems? So 1st cowboys North of Rio Grand were Acadian in Acadia!!!! > > Paul > > [email protected] wrote: > >>The Spanish cattle Industry in Texas cannot chronologically predate the >>Louisiana cattle industry. Natchitoches was founded in 1714 and created >>large cattle herds. The Spanish moved to Las Adaes [current-day Robeline, >>LA >>- 14 miles west of Natchitoches on LA 6] in response to the Natchitoches >>settlement. Thus, the capitol of Colonial Spanish Texas was in current-day >>Louisiana and was established after Natchitoches! >>One can argue about the definition of Texas, but the fact remains that the >>Cattle industry in current-day Louisiana clearly predated the cattle >>industry in Spanish Colonial Texas! >> >>Stanley LeBlanc >>http://www.thecajuns.com >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Judy Riffel [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, >>January 30, 2006 7:00 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >>Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 >> >>In addition to the error concerning the arrival date of the first group of >>Acadians in Louisiana, Mr. Bouillon is also in error about the first >>cowboys >> >>in America being Acadians. The Spanish cattle industry in Texas predates >>the Acadians by many years. In fact, many Cajun French words associated >>with ranching were Spanish words, for example, soutadaire. Although it >>sounds French, it's a Spanish word for a saddle blanket, although my >>grandmother often used it to describe an ugly coat! :) >> >>Judy Riffel >>Baton Rouge, LA >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Stanley LeBlanc" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:27 PM >>Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >>Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 >> >> >> >>>I've sent an email to Letters to the Editor of The Advocate - below is >>>the >>>text. I also sent an email to Warren Perrin. >>> >>>Stanley LeBlanc >>>http://www.thecajuns.com >>> >>> >>>***text of email sent to The Advocate*** >>> >>>Re: How Acadians came to Louisiana >>> >>>Published: Jan 29, 2006 >>> >>>RE: Correction to editorial: "War shaped nation, Louisiana" Jan. >>> >>>18. >>> >>>Mr. Bouillon, Director of the Acadian Museum in Erath stated that >>> >>>"...The first group of Acadians arrived in Louisiana in February >>> >>>1765, led by the guerrilla fighter Joseph Beausoleil Broussard..." >>> >>>The 1765 group led by Joseph Broussard was the first group to go >>> >>>to Attakapas, but the first group to arrive in Louisiana was a >>> >>>group of 20 who arrived in February 1764 from New York after a >>> >>>stay in Mobile, Alabama. >>> >>>For a complete report on the Arrival of the Acadians in Louisiana, >>> >>>see my Arrival of the Acadians page at >>> >>>http://www.thecajuns.com/acadians.htm on my web site dedicated to >>> >>>Cajun Genealogy, History and Culture. >>> >>>Stanley LeBlanc - a native New Iberian >>>http://www.thecajuns.com >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] >>>Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:35 PM >>>To: [email protected] >>>Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >>>Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 >>> >>>Review of French & Indian War show >>>http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/ourviews/2215787.html >>> >>>letter to the editor >>>http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/letters/2250541.html >>> >>>enjoy >>> >>>Weren't the 20 from NY? here before Broussard? >>> >>>Paul Le B >>>l'Ascension LA >>> >>> >>>==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== >>>The number one rule of this list is no flaming. 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It was my understanding that the Broussards & others practiced what is now called open range cattle raising near the NS / NB border and were able to easily adapt to the Louisiana Prairie. I thought this experience was the reason they were not settled along the river. Weren't there stories of drives to BOTH French Fort Louisbourg & English Port Royal causeing problems? So 1st cowboys North of Rio Grand were Acadian in Acadia!!!! Paul [email protected] wrote: >The Spanish cattle Industry in Texas cannot chronologically predate the >Louisiana cattle industry. Natchitoches was founded in 1714 and created >large cattle herds. The Spanish moved to Las Adaes [current-day Robeline, LA >- 14 miles west of Natchitoches on LA 6] in response to the Natchitoches >settlement. Thus, the capitol of Colonial Spanish Texas was in current-day >Louisiana and was established after Natchitoches! > >One can argue about the definition of Texas, but the fact remains that the >Cattle industry in current-day Louisiana clearly predated the cattle >industry in Spanish Colonial Texas! > >Stanley LeBlanc >http://www.thecajuns.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Judy Riffel [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:00 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > >In addition to the error concerning the arrival date of the first group of >Acadians in Louisiana, Mr. Bouillon is also in error about the first cowboys > >in America being Acadians. The Spanish cattle industry in Texas predates >the Acadians by many years. In fact, many Cajun French words associated >with ranching were Spanish words, for example, soutadaire. Although it >sounds French, it's a Spanish word for a saddle blanket, although my >grandmother often used it to describe an ugly coat! :) > >Judy Riffel >Baton Rouge, LA > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Stanley LeBlanc" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:27 PM >Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > > > > >>I've sent an email to Letters to the Editor of The Advocate - below is the >>text. I also sent an email to Warren Perrin. >> >>Stanley LeBlanc >>http://www.thecajuns.com >> >> >>***text of email sent to The Advocate*** >> >>Re: How Acadians came to Louisiana >> >>Published: Jan 29, 2006 >> >>RE: Correction to editorial: "War shaped nation, Louisiana" Jan. >> >>18. >> >>Mr. Bouillon, Director of the Acadian Museum in Erath stated that >> >>"...The first group of Acadians arrived in Louisiana in February >> >>1765, led by the guerrilla fighter Joseph Beausoleil Broussard..." >> >>The 1765 group led by Joseph Broussard was the first group to go >> >>to Attakapas, but the first group to arrive in Louisiana was a >> >>group of 20 who arrived in February 1764 from New York after a >> >>stay in Mobile, Alabama. >> >>For a complete report on the Arrival of the Acadians in Louisiana, >> >>see my Arrival of the Acadians page at >> >>http://www.thecajuns.com/acadians.htm on my web site dedicated to >> >>Cajun Genealogy, History and Culture. >> >>Stanley LeBlanc - a native New Iberian >>http://www.thecajuns.com >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:35 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >>Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 >> >>Review of French & Indian War show >>http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/ourviews/2215787.html >> >>letter to the editor >>http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/letters/2250541.html >> >>enjoy >> >>Weren't the 20 from NY? here before Broussard? >> >>Paul Le B >>l'Ascension LA >> >> >>==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== >>The number one rule of this list is no flaming. 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Yes, we can quibble about the boundaries of Texas. But my point is that the Acadians were not the first cowboys in America. Judy Riffel Baton Rouge, LA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stanley LeBlanc" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:12 PM Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > The Spanish cattle Industry in Texas cannot chronologically predate the > Louisiana cattle industry. Natchitoches was founded in 1714 and created > large cattle herds. The Spanish moved to Las Adaes [current-day Robeline, > LA > - 14 miles west of Natchitoches on LA 6] in response to the Natchitoches > settlement. Thus, the capitol of Colonial Spanish Texas was in current-day > Louisiana and was established after Natchitoches! > > One can argue about the definition of Texas, but the fact remains that the > Cattle industry in current-day Louisiana clearly predated the cattle > industry in Spanish Colonial Texas! > > Stanley LeBlanc > http://www.thecajuns.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judy Riffel [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to > Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > > In addition to the error concerning the arrival date of the first group of > Acadians in Louisiana, Mr. Bouillon is also in error about the first > cowboys > > in America being Acadians. The Spanish cattle industry in Texas predates > the Acadians by many years. In fact, many Cajun French words associated > with ranching were Spanish words, for example, soutadaire. Although it > sounds French, it's a Spanish word for a saddle blanket, although my > grandmother often used it to describe an ugly coat! :) > > Judy Riffel > Baton Rouge, LA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stanley LeBlanc" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:27 PM > Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to > Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > > >> I've sent an email to Letters to the Editor of The Advocate - below is >> the >> text. I also sent an email to Warren Perrin. >> >> Stanley LeBlanc >> http://www.thecajuns.com >> >> >> ***text of email sent to The Advocate*** >> >> Re: How Acadians came to Louisiana >> >> Published: Jan 29, 2006 >> >> RE: Correction to editorial: "War shaped nation, Louisiana" Jan. >> >> 18. >> >> Mr. Bouillon, Director of the Acadian Museum in Erath stated that >> >> "...The first group of Acadians arrived in Louisiana in February >> >> 1765, led by the guerrilla fighter Joseph Beausoleil Broussard..." >> >> The 1765 group led by Joseph Broussard was the first group to go >> >> to Attakapas, but the first group to arrive in Louisiana was a >> >> group of 20 who arrived in February 1764 from New York after a >> >> stay in Mobile, Alabama. >> >> For a complete report on the Arrival of the Acadians in Louisiana, >> >> see my Arrival of the Acadians page at >> >> http://www.thecajuns.com/acadians.htm on my web site dedicated to >> >> Cajun Genealogy, History and Culture. >> >> Stanley LeBlanc - a native New Iberian >> http://www.thecajuns.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:35 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >> Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 >> >> Review of French & Indian War show >> http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/ourviews/2215787.html >> >> letter to the editor >> http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/letters/2250541.html >> >> enjoy >> >> Weren't the 20 from NY? here before Broussard? >> >> Paul Le B >> l'Ascension LA >> >> >> ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== >> The number one rule of this list is no flaming. 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The Spanish cattle Industry in Texas cannot chronologically predate the Louisiana cattle industry. Natchitoches was founded in 1714 and created large cattle herds. The Spanish moved to Las Adaes [current-day Robeline, LA - 14 miles west of Natchitoches on LA 6] in response to the Natchitoches settlement. Thus, the capitol of Colonial Spanish Texas was in current-day Louisiana and was established after Natchitoches! One can argue about the definition of Texas, but the fact remains that the Cattle industry in current-day Louisiana clearly predated the cattle industry in Spanish Colonial Texas! Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: Judy Riffel [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 7:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 In addition to the error concerning the arrival date of the first group of Acadians in Louisiana, Mr. Bouillon is also in error about the first cowboys in America being Acadians. The Spanish cattle industry in Texas predates the Acadians by many years. In fact, many Cajun French words associated with ranching were Spanish words, for example, soutadaire. Although it sounds French, it's a Spanish word for a saddle blanket, although my grandmother often used it to describe an ugly coat! :) Judy Riffel Baton Rouge, LA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stanley LeBlanc" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > I've sent an email to Letters to the Editor of The Advocate - below is the > text. I also sent an email to Warren Perrin. > > Stanley LeBlanc > http://www.thecajuns.com > > > ***text of email sent to The Advocate*** > > Re: How Acadians came to Louisiana > > Published: Jan 29, 2006 > > RE: Correction to editorial: "War shaped nation, Louisiana" Jan. > > 18. > > Mr. Bouillon, Director of the Acadian Museum in Erath stated that > > "...The first group of Acadians arrived in Louisiana in February > > 1765, led by the guerrilla fighter Joseph Beausoleil Broussard..." > > The 1765 group led by Joseph Broussard was the first group to go > > to Attakapas, but the first group to arrive in Louisiana was a > > group of 20 who arrived in February 1764 from New York after a > > stay in Mobile, Alabama. > > For a complete report on the Arrival of the Acadians in Louisiana, > > see my Arrival of the Acadians page at > > http://www.thecajuns.com/acadians.htm on my web site dedicated to > > Cajun Genealogy, History and Culture. > > Stanley LeBlanc - a native New Iberian > http://www.thecajuns.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to > Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > > Review of French & Indian War show > http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/ourviews/2215787.html > > letter to the editor > http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/letters/2250541.html > > enjoy > > Weren't the 20 from NY? here before Broussard? > > Paul Le B > l'Ascension LA > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== > The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to > the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the > person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/ACADIAN-CAJUN.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== To verify the RootsWeb Mailing Lists to which you are currently subscribed, check Password Central: http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ Mark the box to have a list of your subscribed lists e-mailed to you. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx
In addition to the error concerning the arrival date of the first group of Acadians in Louisiana, Mr. Bouillon is also in error about the first cowboys in America being Acadians. The Spanish cattle industry in Texas predates the Acadians by many years. In fact, many Cajun French words associated with ranching were Spanish words, for example, soutadaire. Although it sounds French, it's a Spanish word for a saddle blanket, although my grandmother often used it to describe an ugly coat! :) Judy Riffel Baton Rouge, LA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stanley LeBlanc" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: RE: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > I've sent an email to Letters to the Editor of The Advocate - below is the > text. I also sent an email to Warren Perrin. > > Stanley LeBlanc > http://www.thecajuns.com > > > ***text of email sent to The Advocate*** > > Re: How Acadians came to Louisiana > > Published: Jan 29, 2006 > > RE: Correction to editorial: "War shaped nation, Louisiana" Jan. > > 18. > > Mr. Bouillon, Director of the Acadian Museum in Erath stated that > > "...The first group of Acadians arrived in Louisiana in February > > 1765, led by the guerrilla fighter Joseph Beausoleil Broussard..." > > The 1765 group led by Joseph Broussard was the first group to go > > to Attakapas, but the first group to arrive in Louisiana was a > > group of 20 who arrived in February 1764 from New York after a > > stay in Mobile, Alabama. > > For a complete report on the Arrival of the Acadians in Louisiana, > > see my Arrival of the Acadians page at > > http://www.thecajuns.com/acadians.htm on my web site dedicated to > > Cajun Genealogy, History and Culture. > > Stanley LeBlanc - a native New Iberian > http://www.thecajuns.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to > Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > > Review of French & Indian War show > http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/ourviews/2215787.html > > letter to the editor > http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/letters/2250541.html > > enjoy > > Weren't the 20 from NY? here before Broussard? > > Paul Le B > l'Ascension LA > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== > The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to > the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the > person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/CAN/ACADIAN-CAJUN.html > This is the link to our archives. You may search or browse. Also, > subscribe or unsubscribe and contact admin. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >
Stanley I was just trying to make point that they are/were called Germans but John Law recruited from all over Europe. Weren't there also some what is now called Hungarians? Paul [email protected] wrote: >Paul, > >The Germans were definitely non-French! They also played a major role in >Colonial Louisiana. The large influx of settlers between 1718-1721 came from >Hainaut [now part of Belgium], Alsace-Lorriane, Switzerland and the German >States [The Nation State of Germany didn't exist until 1871]. The original >intent was to send the German settlers to the Arkansas Post, but the Company >of the West Indies went bust and Louisiana became a Crown Colony in 1721. >Thus, the First and second German Coast has existed since 1718 and 1721. The >French-Creoles were at Pointe Coupee. > >Elton Oubre spent 25 years researching the issue that you mention. It is all >explained in his book Vacherie. > >Stanley LeBlanc >http://www.thecajuns.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:40 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > >Weren't the NY Acadians settled with/near the Germans (non-French >Europeans)? There really were no hard boundries of Verret, Cantrelle, >German Coast was there? We know that they approximately ended near >Verret's & Cantrelle's other son-in-law homes. but didn't each census >have different boundries? > >Commandant (Pierre) Nicholas Verret was my 5th ggfather so anyting I can >do to help please ask. > >Paul Le B > >[email protected] wrote: > > > >>The New York group arrived in 1764 but didn't go to Attakapas. Some men of >>the 1764 group showed up on Verret's Company in April 1766, but aren't on >>the 1766 or 1769 census of The Acadian Coast. They show up on the 1777 >>census. Roger Rozendal [with help from Elton Oubre] has been trying to find >>out more about Verret's Company and the 1766 and 1769 census. >> >>Stanley LeBlanc >>http://www.thecajuns.com >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:35 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >>Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 >> >>Review of French & Indian War show >>http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/ourviews/2215787.html >> >>letter to the editor >>http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/letters/2250541.html >> >>enjoy >> >>Weren't the 20 from NY? here before Broussard? >> >>Paul Le B >>l'Ascension LA >> >> >>==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== >>The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to >>the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the >>person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== >To verify the RootsWeb Mailing Lists to which you are currently subscribed, >check Password Central: http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ Mark the box >to have a list of your subscribed lists e-mailed to you. > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > >==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic.acadian-cajun >This is a link to the Acadian-Cajun Message Board at RootsWeb. > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >
Paul, The Germans were definitely non-French! They also played a major role in Colonial Louisiana. The large influx of settlers between 1718-1721 came from Hainaut [now part of Belgium], Alsace-Lorriane, Switzerland and the German States [The Nation State of Germany didn't exist until 1871]. The original intent was to send the German settlers to the Arkansas Post, but the Company of the West Indies went bust and Louisiana became a Crown Colony in 1721. Thus, the First and second German Coast has existed since 1718 and 1721. The French-Creoles were at Pointe Coupee. Elton Oubre spent 25 years researching the issue that you mention. It is all explained in his book Vacherie. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 Weren't the NY Acadians settled with/near the Germans (non-French Europeans)? There really were no hard boundries of Verret, Cantrelle, German Coast was there? We know that they approximately ended near Verret's & Cantrelle's other son-in-law homes. but didn't each census have different boundries? Commandant (Pierre) Nicholas Verret was my 5th ggfather so anyting I can do to help please ask. Paul Le B [email protected] wrote: >The New York group arrived in 1764 but didn't go to Attakapas. Some men of >the 1764 group showed up on Verret's Company in April 1766, but aren't on >the 1766 or 1769 census of The Acadian Coast. They show up on the 1777 >census. Roger Rozendal [with help from Elton Oubre] has been trying to find >out more about Verret's Company and the 1766 and 1769 census. > >Stanley LeBlanc >http://www.thecajuns.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:35 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > >Review of French & Indian War show >http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/ourviews/2215787.html > >letter to the editor >http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/letters/2250541.html > >enjoy > >Weren't the 20 from NY? here before Broussard? > >Paul Le B >l'Ascension LA > > >==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== >The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to >the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the >person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== To verify the RootsWeb Mailing Lists to which you are currently subscribed, check Password Central: http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ Mark the box to have a list of your subscribed lists e-mailed to you. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx
Weren't the NY Acadians settled with/near the Germans (non-French Europeans)? There really were no hard boundries of Verret, Cantrelle, German Coast was there? We know that they approximately ended near Verret's & Cantrelle's other son-in-law homes. but didn't each census have different boundries? Commandant (Pierre) Nicholas Verret was my 5th ggfather so anyting I can do to help please ask. Paul Le B [email protected] wrote: >The New York group arrived in 1764 but didn't go to Attakapas. Some men of >the 1764 group showed up on Verret's Company in April 1766, but aren't on >the 1766 or 1769 census of The Acadian Coast. They show up on the 1777 >census. Roger Rozendal [with help from Elton Oubre] has been trying to find >out more about Verret's Company and the 1766 and 1769 census. > >Stanley LeBlanc >http://www.thecajuns.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:35 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to >Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 > >Review of French & Indian War show >http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/ourviews/2215787.html > >letter to the editor >http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/letters/2250541.html > >enjoy > >Weren't the 20 from NY? here before Broussard? > >Paul Le B >l'Ascension LA > > >==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== >The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to >the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the >person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > >
I've sent an email to Letters to the Editor of The Advocate - below is the text. I also sent an email to Warren Perrin. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com ***text of email sent to The Advocate*** Re: How Acadians came to Louisiana Published: Jan 29, 2006 RE: Correction to editorial: "War shaped nation, Louisiana" Jan. 18. Mr. Bouillon, Director of the Acadian Museum in Erath stated that "...The first group of Acadians arrived in Louisiana in February 1765, led by the guerrilla fighter Joseph Beausoleil Broussard..." The 1765 group led by Joseph Broussard was the first group to go to Attakapas, but the first group to arrive in Louisiana was a group of 20 who arrived in February 1764 from New York after a stay in Mobile, Alabama. For a complete report on the Arrival of the Acadians in Louisiana, see my Arrival of the Acadians page at http://www.thecajuns.com/acadians.htm on my web site dedicated to Cajun Genealogy, History and Culture. Stanley LeBlanc - a native New Iberian http://www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 Review of French & Indian War show http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/ourviews/2215787.html letter to the editor http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/letters/2250541.html enjoy Weren't the 20 from NY? here before Broussard? Paul Le B l'Ascension LA ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx
The New York group arrived in 1764 but didn't go to Attakapas. Some men of the 1764 group showed up on Verret's Company in April 1766, but aren't on the 1766 or 1769 census of The Acadian Coast. They show up on the 1777 census. Roger Rozendal [with help from Elton Oubre] has been trying to find out more about Verret's Company and the 1766 and 1769 census. Stanley LeBlanc http://www.thecajuns.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul L Le Blanc [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ACADIAN-CAJUN] Baton Rouge advocate - How Acadians came to Louisiana Jan 29, 2006 Review of French & Indian War show http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/ourviews/2215787.html letter to the editor http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/letters/2250541.html enjoy Weren't the 20 from NY? here before Broussard? Paul Le B l'Ascension LA ==== ACADIAN-CAJUN Mailing List ==== The number one rule of this list is no flaming. If something is posted to the list that disturbs you, bring it to the _admin._, not the list or the person who posted. Your concerns will be addressed. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx
Review of French & Indian War show http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/ourviews/2215787.html letter to the editor http://www.2theadvocate.com/opinion/letters/2250541.html enjoy Weren't the 20 from NY? here before Broussard? Paul Le B l'Ascension LA