We Acadian have many many relatives that married "Micmaq" so your ancestors sibs can be almost certain to have related lines. We usually say Micmaq but they can be from all the "tribes" from Maine, through Quebec and up to NewFoundland. metis (lower M) are individuals of mixed heritage who meet a 6 part test. The main ones is to belong to a metis community & share their lifestyle. Metis (Capital M) are Canadian Government recognized communities west of Ontario. I personally have six Amerindian lines before 1710. You will find you have more in common with other "Early French in North America" than your "english" neighbors who you have lived next to for generations. Enough of my high horse. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Leslie Johnson CPC As a beginner, I have been wondering about that. Due to the nature of our ancestors and marrying with the Mi'kmaqs, is it possible that many of us metis? I've seen some indications in the lines, but how do we know for sure? Thanks, Leslie LeBrun Johnson

Great explanation, Paul. I was not aware of the distinction between w and W. Would you mind sharing your Ameriindian lines with us? I'd love to know. I know for sure I have Marie Therese married to Claude Petitpas through their daughter Judith in my father's Burke line. I have several more, but they may be questionable. I'd be interested to see if we intersect anywhere. I do know I show up as having 2% NA on one DNA testing with a further 4% Siberian and 3% NA on another, which leads me to believe that more than Marie Therese has contributed. Also, is there anyone out there with ties to LeCoutre or LeFebre/LeFevre in Nova Scotia via the Channel Islands? This is my paternal great grandmother's line. She was Elizabeth Goswell/Cogswell married to Aime Landry. I've been told her parents were George Goswell (with possible early US American ancestors??) and Jane LeCoutre. I don't think they ever married. But I am interested in Jane's parents. Hope everyone is havivng a great summer. I won't complain about the heat to my LA cousins, but I've been in Paris this summer and it has been hot as blazes. Leaving for Halifax and Cape Breton on Wednesday and I KNOW it will be cooler there!! Deborah Petitpas/Burke/Landry/Bonin On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Paul L LeBlanc via <[email protected]> wrote: > We Acadian have many many relatives that married "Micmaq" so your > ancestors sibs can be almost certain to have related lines. We usually say > Micmaq but they can be from all the "tribes" from Maine, through Quebec and > up to NewFoundland. > > > metis (lower M) are individuals of mixed heritage who meet a 6 part test. > The main ones is to belong to a metis community & share their lifestyle. > > > Metis (Capital M) are Canadian Government recognized communities west of > Ontario. > > > I personally have six Amerindian lines before 1710. > > > You will find you have more in common with other "Early French in North > America" than your "english" neighbors who you have lived next to for > generations. > > > Enough of my high horse. > Paul > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leslie Johnson CPC > > > As a beginner, I have been wondering about that. > > Due to the nature of our > ancestors and marrying with the Mi'kmaqs, is it possible that many of us > metis? > I've seen some indications in the lines, but how do we know for > sure? > > Thanks, > > Leslie LeBrun Johnson > > > > > . > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a > confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the > "Name" you would like us to call you. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

First three of my lines I will have to look for the other two. note also many of my Sieurs What I said about sibs - Your Claude Petitpas (jr) is my 8th Great Grand Uncle four different ways with his other wife ================================= 1. (2a) JEANNE TURGIS DE SAINT-ETIENNE de La Tour Metis[1,2] was born about 1626. JEANNE married[1,2] (1) MARTIN D'APRENDESTGUY DE MARIGONON[1,2] about 1655 in Pentagouet, Acadia. MARTIN was born about 1616 in Ascain, Guyenne. Second Generation 2. (2) CHARLES TURGIS DE SAINT-ETIENNE Amador de La Tour[2,3,4] was born about 1593. He died about 1663. CHARLES married[2,4] ABENAKI INDIAN about 1625. 3. ABENAKI INDIAN[2,3,4]. Appendix A - Sources 1. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes 1636-1714 v1, p 21-22 d'Aprendestguy des Martigonon Martin (1). 2. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes 1636-1714 v2, p 1433-1436 Turgis de Saint-Etienne de La Tour Charles (2). 3. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1234-1236 Motin Louis. 4. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1431-1433 Turgis de Saint-Etienne de La Tour Nicholas (1). =============================================== 1. (2) PHILIPPE PINET[1,2,3] was born 1654/1665. He died about 1 Oct 1710. PHILIPPE married[1,3] (2g) CATHERINE HEBERT[1,3], daughter of (2) ETIENNE HEBERT and (1c) MARIE GAUDET, about 1678. CATHERINE was born about 1662. She died 3 Aug 1727 in Louisbourg, Ile-Royale, Acadia and was buried 4 Aug 1727 in Louisbourg, Ile-Royale, Acadia. Second Generation 2. (1) PINET[2] died about 1655. He married[2] ANNE-MARIE mtDNA A on 1653. 3. ANNE-MARIE mtDNA A[2,4] was born about 1631. Appendix A - Sources 1. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes 1636-1714 v2, p 1310-1312 Pinet Philippe (2). 2. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1310 Pinet (1). 3. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 800-801 Hebert Etienne (2). 4. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1397-1398 Rimbault Rene (1). ============================================== 1. (1d) ANASTASIE D'ABBADIE de Saint Castin[1,2,3]. ANASTASIE married[1,2,3] (4) ALEXANDRE LE BORGNE de Belisle[1,2,3], son of (2) ALEXANDRE LE BORGNE de Belisle and (2a) MARIE TURGIS DE SAINT-ETIENNE de La Tour, on 4 Dec 1707 in Port-Royal, Acadia. ALEXANDRE was born about 1679. He died after 20 Aug 1744. Second Generation 2. (1) JEAN-VINCENT D'ABBADIE de Saint Castin[3,4] was born about 1652 in Saint Castin, France. He died 1707 in Pau, France. JEAN-VINCENT married[3,4] MATHILDE une Abenaquise about 1670. 3. MATHILDE une Abenaquise[3,4] was born in Penobscot, Maine. Rehab 1684 Third Generation 4. JEAN-JACQUES D'ABBADIE de Saint Castin[4,5] was born 1 Nov 1620 in Escout, Bearn, France and was baptized 12 Dec 1620 in Escout, Bearn, France. He was buried before 16 Feb 1666. JEAN-JACQUES married[4,5] ISABELLE DE BEARN DE BONASSE on 4 Feb 1649 in Arette-la-Pierre, St-Martin, France. 5. ISABELLE DE BEARN DE BONASSE[4,5] was born 1630. She died 17 Nov 1652 in Arette-la-Pierre, St-Martin, France. 6. MADOKAWANDO Abernaquis Chief. Appendix A - Sources 1. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes 1636-1714 v2, p 1027-1029 Le Borgne Alexandre (2). 2. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1029-1030 Le Borgue Alexandre (4). 3. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes 1636-1714 v1, p 6-7 d'Abbadie Jean-Vincent (1). 4. Stephen A White, DGFA v1, p 5 d'Abbadie Jean-Jacques. 5. Stephen A White, DGFA v1, p 4 d'Abbadie Bertrand.

Very quickly, Paul, I am also a descendant of Claude's brother Jacques through my mother's direct Petitpas line AND a descendant of Claude's second wife, Francoise Lavergne by her marriage to Claude Clerge through their daughter, Anne married to Pierre Landry in my father's paternal line. I will look more closely at what you have posted and will look forward to more. Oh what a tangled web we weave... Deborah On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:28 AM, Paul L LeBlanc <[email protected]> wrote: > First three of my lines > I will have to look for the other two. > note also many of my Sieurs > > What I said about sibs - Your Claude Petitpas (jr) is my 8th Great Grand > Uncle four different ways with his other wife > > ================================= > 1. (2a) JEANNE TURGIS DE SAINT-ETIENNE de La Tour Metis[1,2] was born > about 1626. > JEANNE married[1,2] (1) MARTIN D'APRENDESTGUY DE MARIGONON[1,2] about 1655 > in Pentagouet, Acadia. MARTIN was born about 1616 in Ascain, Guyenne. > > > Second Generation > > 2. (2) CHARLES TURGIS DE SAINT-ETIENNE Amador de La Tour[2,3,4] was born > about 1593. He died about 1663. CHARLES married[2,4] ABENAKI INDIAN about > 1625. > 3. ABENAKI INDIAN[2,3,4]. > Appendix A - Sources > > 1. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes > 1636-1714 v1, p 21-22 d'Aprendestguy des Martigonon Martin (1). > 2. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes > 1636-1714 v2, p 1433-1436 Turgis de Saint-Etienne de La Tour Charles (2). > 3. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1234-1236 Motin Louis. > 4. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1431-1433 Turgis de Saint-Etienne de La > Tour Nicholas (1). > =============================================== > > 1. (2) PHILIPPE PINET[1,2,3] was born 1654/1665. He died about 1 Oct > 1710. > PHILIPPE married[1,3] (2g) CATHERINE HEBERT[1,3], daughter of (2) ETIENNE > HEBERT and (1c) MARIE GAUDET, about 1678. CATHERINE was born about 1662. > She died 3 Aug 1727 in Louisbourg, Ile-Royale, Acadia and was buried 4 Aug > 1727 in Louisbourg, Ile-Royale, Acadia. > > > Second Generation > > 2. (1) PINET[2] died about 1655. He married[2] ANNE-MARIE mtDNA A on > 1653. > 3. ANNE-MARIE mtDNA A[2,4] was born about 1631. > Appendix A - Sources > > 1. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes > 1636-1714 v2, p 1310-1312 Pinet Philippe (2). > 2. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1310 Pinet (1). > 3. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 800-801 Hebert Etienne (2). > 4. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1397-1398 Rimbault Rene (1). > ============================================== > 1. (1d) ANASTASIE D'ABBADIE de Saint Castin[1,2,3]. > ANASTASIE married[1,2,3] (4) ALEXANDRE LE BORGNE de Belisle[1,2,3], son of > (2) ALEXANDRE LE BORGNE de Belisle and (2a) MARIE TURGIS DE SAINT-ETIENNE > de La Tour, on 4 Dec 1707 in Port-Royal, Acadia. ALEXANDRE was born about > 1679. He died after 20 Aug 1744. > > > Second Generation > > 2. (1) JEAN-VINCENT D'ABBADIE de Saint Castin[3,4] was born about 1652 > in Saint Castin, France. He died 1707 in Pau, France. JEAN-VINCENT > married[3,4] MATHILDE une Abenaquise about 1670. > 3. MATHILDE une Abenaquise[3,4] was born in Penobscot, Maine. > Rehab 1684 > > > Third Generation > > 4. JEAN-JACQUES D'ABBADIE de Saint Castin[4,5] was born 1 Nov 1620 in > Escout, Bearn, France and was baptized 12 Dec 1620 in Escout, Bearn, > France. He was buried before 16 Feb 1666. JEAN-JACQUES married[4,5] > ISABELLE DE BEARN DE BONASSE on 4 Feb 1649 in Arette-la-Pierre, St-Martin, > France. > 5. ISABELLE DE BEARN DE BONASSE[4,5] was born 1630. She died 17 Nov 1652 > in Arette-la-Pierre, St-Martin, France. > 6. MADOKAWANDO Abernaquis Chief. > Appendix A - Sources > > 1. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes > 1636-1714 v2, p 1027-1029 Le Borgne Alexandre (2). > 2. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1029-1030 Le Borgue Alexandre (4). > 3. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes > 1636-1714 v1, p 6-7 d'Abbadie Jean-Vincent (1). > 4. Stephen A White, DGFA v1, p 5 d'Abbadie Jean-Jacques. > 5. Stephen A White, DGFA v1, p 4 d'Abbadie Bertrand. > >