Can I please ask for some guidance on this one? I show the Charles Savoie who was Germain and Marie's son was born in abt 1703 and married Francoise Martin, dau of Etienne Martin and Josephe Marie Comeaux, in 1730. The Charles Savoie who I show was married to Judith Arseneaux was the son of Francois Xavier Savoie and Marie Josephe Richard, was born in 1721, and married Judith Arseneaux in 1761. (This Charles is my 6th Great Grandfather.) Do I have the two Charles' families incorrect? Keith Lorando -----Original Message----- From: Mitch Conover via Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 2:57 AM To: 'Augusta B. Elmwood' ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Savoie-Broussard Both Charles, father of Jean (you mentioned) and Marguerite that married Joseph Gregoire Broussard, descend from Germain Savoie and Marie Breaux. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Augusta B. Elmwood via Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 11:56 PM To: Cecil Van Duzee; List ACADIAN Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Savoie-Broussard , fat Hi, everyone, Could I jump in here & ask how this/these SAVOIEs are related to Charles SAVOY/SAVOIE, who married Judith ARSENEAUX and ended up in LA in 1765, with a son, Jean, and an orphan named Bazile DESROCHES, probably son of Judith's sister, Marie, who married Julien DESROCHES? SAVOIE is not my ancestor, but I'd just like to know if he's connected to the SAVOIE family being discussed in this thread. Just curious, aucune urgence, ni obligation Merci! Augusta Elmwood On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Cecil Van Duzee via <[email protected]> wrote: > Go to cafa.org > Enter to table of contents > Index of Acadian/Cajun Families and their Websites Broussard Table of > Contents > Newsletters: Stephen White letter > > > > C > > Genealogists are not authors. We don't create history... We evaluate > and document it. > > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 10:02:39 -0500 > > CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; > > [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Savoie-Broussard > > From: [email protected] > > > > For those who would want a copy of letter: I will Xerox and have > > copies > on > > hand at the next Broussard/Trahan Gathering in Maurice in September. > > I will ask for response to this to insure that enough copies are > Xeroxed; no > > response, no copy. > > > > Mitch > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] > On > > Behalf Of katheriot via > > Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 9:54 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [ACADIAN] Savoie-Broussard > > > > Could someone please post the exact wording of Stephen A. White's > correction > > to this couple? 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The other couple I always pick one of their children so that we have both parents As usual all questions, comments & corrections are welcome. ========================================= Ahnentafel Chart for Rosalie Savoie Savoy First Generation 1. Rosalie Savoie Savoy was born 26 Nov 1738 and was baptized[1] 12 Jul 1739 in Port Royal, Acadia. She was buried[2] 11 May 1794 in St Jacques de Cabanoce, Convent, St James, LA. DEATH: age 58 years of Acadia & wife of Pedro Barteau This would make her born in 1736. She is probably the daughter of Charles & Francoise Martin born 1738. Rosalie married Pierre Berteau dit Beausoleil, son of Francois Berteau and Louise Ernaudine. Pierre was born about 1739 in Nantes, Bretagne, Loire-Atlantic, France. Second Generation 2. (7) Charles Savoie[3,4] was born 25 May 1703 and was christened[5] 24 Jun 1703 in St-Jean-Baptiste Church, Port-Royal, Acadia. He died before 1766 in Census. Charles married[3,4,6] (8c) Francoise Martin on 16 Jan 1730 in St-Jean-Baptiste Church, Port-Royal, Acadia. Baptism: http://novascotia.ca/archives/virtual/acadian/archives.asp?ID=20 . Charles Savoy . Registre RG 1 Vol. 26 p.7 Register Prêtre Felix Pain Priest Date d'enregistrement 24 June 1703 Registration date Événement Baptism Event Nom Charles Savoy born 25 May 1703 Name Père Germain Savoy Father Mère Marie Vinalote Mother Parrain ou Marraine Yvone Quaine Marie Savoy Godparents 3. (8c) Francoise Martin[3,4] was born 11 May 1710 and was christened[7] 11 May 1710 in St-Jean-Baptiste Church, Port-Royal, Acadia. Baptism: http://novascotia.ca/archives/virtual/acadian/archives.asp?ID=332 . François Martin . Registre RG 1 Vol. 26 p.96 Register Prêtre Justinien Durand Priest Date d'enregistrement 11 May 1710 Registration date Événement Baptism Event Nom François Martin born the same day Name Père Etienne Martin Father Mère Marie Comeau Mother Parrain ou Marraine Michel Richard Anne Comeau Godparents http://novascotia.ca/archives/virtual/acadian/archives.asp?ID=1703 . Charles Savoye and Françoise Martin . Registre RG 1 Vol. 26a p.44 Register Prêtre René Charles de Breslay Priest Date d'enregistrement 16 January 1730 Registration date Événement Marriage Event Marié Charles Savoye twenty-six years old Groom Père Germain Savoye Father Mère Marie Brau Mother Mariée Françoise Martin nineteen years old Bride Père Etienne Martin Father Mère Marie Comau Mother Témoins Paul Savoye brother of the groom Jacques Michel son of Jacques Michel Joseph Landry son of Claude Landry, first cousin of the bride Pierre Michel son of Jacques Michel, cousin of the bride Witnesses Third Generation 4. (2) Germain Savoie[3,8,9] was born about 1654. He died about Dec 1729. Germain married[3,8,9] (1a) Marie Breau dite Vincelotte Brault about 1678. 5. (1a) Marie Breau dite Vincelotte Brault[3,8,9] was born about 1662. She died 23 Oct 1749 in Port-Royal, Acadia and was buried 24 Oct 1749 in Port-Royal, Acadia. 6. (8) Etienne Martin[4] was born about 1678 in Port Royal, Acadia. He died 27 May 1751 and was buried[10] 28 May 1751 in St-Jean-Baptiste Church, Port-Royal, Acadia. Etienne married[4,11] (6b) Marie Jeanne Comeau on 13 Oct 1705 in St-Jean-Baptiste Church, Port-Royal, Acadia. BURIAL: http://novascotia.ca/archives/virtual/acadian/archives.asp?ID=3257 . Etienne Martin . Registre RG 1 Vol. 26a p.438 Register Prêtre Defenetaud Priest Date d'enregistrement 28 May 1751 Registration date Événement Burial Event Nom Etienne Martin died 27 May 1751, no further information Name Témoins Witnesses 7. (6b) Marie Jeanne Comeau[4] was born about 1691. http://novascotia.ca/archives/virtual/acadian/archives.asp?ID=1191 . Etienne Martin and Jeanne Comeau . Registre RG 1 Vol. 26 p.276 Register Prêtre Justinien Durand Priest Date d'enregistrement 13 October 1705 Registration date Événement Marriage Event Marié Etienne Martin Groom Père Barnabé Martin Father Mère Jeanne Peltret Mother Mariée Jeanne Comeau Bride Père Pierre Comeau L'Aine Father Mère Jeanne Bourgeois Mother Témoins Witnesses Fourth Generation 8. (1) FRANCOIS SAVOIE[9,12] was born about 1621. He died about 1678. FRANCOIS married[9,12] CATHERINE LEJEUNE about 1651. Census: Rc PR 1671 50a Research_of_Karen_Theriot_Reader: !CENSUS: 1671 Port Royal, Acadia, p. 5. Name spelled Francois SCAVOIS, age 50 years, a labor er, living with wife 38. Of their 9 children, only Francoise is married, listed in next entr y on census [next door?]. They have 4 head of cattle on 10 arpents workable land. . !BIRTH-IMMIGRATION-MARRIAGE-CHILDREN: Bona Arsenault, HISTOIRE ET GENEALOGIE DES ACADIENS; 16 25-1810; Ottawa, Editions Lemeac, 1978, 6 vols.; p. 794 (Port Royal); own copy. "Doubtlessly " originally from Martaizé, department of Vienne, France (cites Massignon, vol. 1, p. 49), Fr ancois arrived in Acadia around 1643, and married around 1652 to Catherine LEJEUNE (no parent s listed); they had nine children. Ch 9. CATHERINE LEJEUNE[9,12] was born about 1633. Location: http://lejeune.cma2014.com/en/genealogie Andre-Carl Valcon . In Acadia, there was another family Lejeune, which probably would have come aboard Le Saint-Élie in 1642. The family is that of Catherine and Edmee Lejeune, two sisters, and their likely brother, Jean Lejeune who married a Mi'kmaq woman (DNA haplotype "A"), probably with the name Marie. They probably had two daughters: Jeanne (born 1651) and Marie (born around 1658). According to an old French tradition, the eldest bore the name of his father and the second child, that of the mother. Their daughter Jeanne married François Joseph, a Mi'kmaq, towards 1673, and afterwards a widow, she married Jehan Gaudet toward 1694. . Census: Rc PR 1671 38a 10. (1) VINCENT BREAU Brot[8,13] was born about 1631. He died Nov 1684/ Jan 1686 in Port-Royal, Acadia. VINCENT married[8,13] (1b) MARIE BOURG on 1661. BIRTH: parents may have been Vincent Breau & Marie Renaume 29 May 1629 Location: maybe from near La Chaussee, Vienne, Poitou, France 11. (1b) MARIE BOURG[8,13] was born about 1645 in Port-Royal, Acadia. She died 19 Sep 1730 in Port-Royal, Acadia and was buried 19 Sep 1730 in Port-Royal, Acadia. 12. (3) BARNABE MARTIN[14,15] was born about 1636. He died before 1686. BARNABE married[14,15] (1b) JEANNE PELLETRET about 1666. Location: MARTIN, Barnabé, came from France and married at Port-Royal Jeanne Pelletret, according to Louis Courtin, husband of his great-granddaughter Marie-Josèphe Martin (Doc. inéd., Vol. III, p. 27). Here again there are errors concerning the names of the first forebears in Acadia. Louis Courtin calls his wife's great-grandfather René Martin, and René's wife Marguerite Landry. It is particularly easy in this instance to understand how the deponent came to be so misinformed. In the first place, Louis Courtin was not an Acadian, but a surgeon from the diocese of Blois, who had married his Acadian wife at Cork, in Ireland. Secondly, as this writer explained in an article published in 1984 (SHA, Vol. XV, p. 119), Marie-Josèphe Martin was only fourteen years old at the time of the Deportation in 1755, and she had lost her father eight years before that, when she was only six. By 1767, with her mother also dead, the only persons on Belle-Île upon whom Marie-Josèphe could have called for help with her genealogy were her two younger sisters, who were certainly not likely to know more than she did. So it is not surprising that there should have been some confusion in Louis Courtin's information about his wife's ancestors. The substitution of the given name René for Barnabé probably came about because Marie-Josèphe's grandfather Étienne Martin had an older brother by that name. Meanwhile, the confusion of the family names Pelletret and Landry likely occurred because Jeanne Pelletret's mother Perrine Bourg was married twice, and her second husband was René Landry l'aîné. Perrine Bourg had no male offspring from her Pelletret marriage, but she had two Landry sons who had a considerable number of descendants (see DGFA-1, pp.915-916, 1283-1284). Stephen A. White, Genealogist,Centre d'études acadiennes January 17, 2005 13. (1b) JEANNE PELLETRET[14,15,16] was born about 1643. She died 10 Jan 1706 and was buried[17,18] 11 Jan 1706 in St-Jean-Baptiste Church, Port-Royal, Acadia. BURIAL: http://novascotia.ca/archives/virtual/acadian/archives.asp?ID=1387 . An Acadian Parish Remembered The Registers of St. Jean-Baptiste, Annapolis Royal, 1702-1755 . Jeanne Pelletray . Registre RG 1 Vol. 26 p.341 Register Prêtre Felix Pain Priest Date d'enregistrement 11 January 1706 Registration date Événement Burial Event Nom Jeanne Pelletray died 10 January 1706, sixty-three years old, wife of Lanchevin, in the absence of Justinien Durand Name Témoins Witnesses 14. (6) Pierre Comeau le Jeune dit Des Loups-Marins[19,20,21] was born about 1658. He married[19,20,21] (1j) Jeanne Bourgeois about 1689. 15. (1j) Jeanne Bourgeois[19,20,21] was born about 1667. She was buried[22] 10 Jun 1716 in St-Jean-Baptiste Church, Port-Royal, Acadia. BURIAL: http://novascotia.ca/archives/virtual/acadian/archives.asp?ID=1512 . Jeanne Bourgeois . Registre RG 1 Vol. 26 p.358 Register Prêtre Justinien Durand Priest Date d'enregistrement 10 June 1716 Registration date Événement Burial Event Nom Jeanne Bourgeois , about fifty years old, wife of Pierre Comeau dit Loupes Marin Name Témoins Witnesses Appendix A - Sources 1. Rieder & Rieder, Acadian Church Records v V Port Royal 1730-1740, p 91 Savoye Rosalie. 2. Diocese of Baton Rouge Catholic Church Records, v 2 p 667 (SJA-4, 1). 3. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes 1636-1714 v2, p 1457-1459 Savoie Germain (2). 4. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1138-1140 Martin Etienne (8). 5. An Acadian Parish Remembered, RG 1 Vol. 26 p.7 Savoy Charles. 6. An Acadian Parish Remembered, RG 1 Vol. 26a p.44 Savoye Charles Françoise Martin. 7. An Acadian Parish Remembered, RG 1 Vol. 26 p.96 Martin François. 8. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes 1636-1714 v1, p 270-272 Breau Vincent (1). 9. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1456-1457 Savoie Francois (1). 10. An Acadian Parish Remembered, RG 1 Vol. 26a p.438 Martin Etienne. 11. An Acadian Parish Remembered, RG 1 Vol. 26 p.276 Martin Etienne Jeanne Comeau. 12. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1048 Lejeune dit Briard. 13. Stephen A White, DGFA v1, p 221-222 Bourg Antoine (1). 14. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1128-1139 Martin Barnabe (3). 15. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1283-1284 Pellertret Simon (1). 16. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1089 Le Vanier Jacques (1). 17. An Acadian Parish Remembered, RG 1 Vol. 26 p.341 Pelletray Jeanne. 18. Milton P Rieder & Norma Gaudet Rieder, Acadian Church Records Port Royal 1702-1721 v III, Metairie LA, 1977, p 70 Pelletray Jeanne. 19. Stephen A White, DGFA v1, p 251-253 Bourgeois Jacques (1). 20. Stephen A White, DGFA v1, p 369-371 Comeau Pierre (1). 21. Stephen A White, DGFA v1, p 380-381 Comeau Pierre (6). 22. An Acadian Parish Remembered, RG 1 Vol. 26 p.358 Bourgeois Jeanne.