What I have on Charles who m2 Judith Arseneau Ahnentafel Chart for Modeste Savoie First Generation 1. Modeste Savoie[1]. Modeste married Pierre Bourgeois[1], son of Pierre Bourgeois and Marie Ann Bergeron. Second Generation 2. (17) Charles Savoie was born 30 May 1721. He married Judith Arseneau. Location: Acadian Memorial database - Ensemble Encore Given Names: Charles Surname: Savoie (Savoy) Date of Birth: 1722 Birthplace: Port Royal, Acadia (marriage record says Shepody) Mother: Marie Richard Father: François Savoie Marriage: Married (1) Marie Madeleine Richard, daughter of Pierre Richard and Marie Madeleine Girouard. Married (2) Judith Arseneau, daughter of Claude Arseneau and Marguerite Richard, at Ristigouche, in present-day New Brunswick, January 7, 1761. . Children: Second marriage: Amédée (born 1779; married May 30, 1790), François Paul (baptized February 20, 1774), Geneviève (baptized March 22, 1772), Isabelle (baptized May 28, 1780), Jean (born 1763), Jean Baptiste (born 1763; married April 18, 1796), Joseph (born 1779; married July 27, 1794), Marie Modeste (baptized October 19, 1777), Simon Pierre (baptized October 19, 1777) Exile: At Ristigouche, in present-day New Brunswick, January 1761. Appears to have been among the Acadian prisoners of war at Halifax, August 16, 1763. . Louisiana: . Identified in the April 9, 1766, census of Cabannocé as the head of a household including his wife Judith Arseneau, son Jean, and orphan Basile Desroches. The household occupied a tract of land measuring six arpents frontage on the left bank of the Mississippi River. The census also indicates that Savoie owned one firearm. Identified in the September 14, 1769, census of St. Jacques de Cabannocé as the forty-six-year-old head of a household that included the following individuals: Judith Arseneau, his wife, 32 years old; Jean Baptiste, his son, 6 years old; Pierre, his son, 2 months old; Jean, his son, 2 months old; and Basile Deroche, an orphan, 14 years old. The members of his household occupied a tract of land with five arpents frontage. They owned ten hogs and two muskets. The April 15, 1777, census of the inhabitants of the left bank of the Mississippi River at St. Jacques de Cabannocé indicates that he was the fifty-one-year-old head of a household that included the following persons: Judith Arseneau, his wife, 40 years old; Jean Baptiste Savoie, his son, 14 years old; Joseph Savoie, his son, 8 years old; Amédée Savoie, his son, 8 years old. He and his family owned no real estate at the time of the census, but they did own twelve cows and three horses. . Sources: . Gallant, Les Registres de la Gaspésie (1752-1850), 281; Jehn, Acadian Exiles in the Colonies, 246; Census of Cabannocé, April 9, 1766, AGI, PPC, 187A; Arsenault, Histoire et généalogie, 6:2588; Diocese of Baton Rouge Catholic Church Records, 2:665-667; List of Acadians Settlers on Both Sides of the [Mississippi] River, from Jacques Cantrelle's Farm to Isle aux Marais, September 14, 1769, AGI, PPC, 187A-2; General Census of St. Jacques de Cabannocé, April 15, 1777, AGI, PPC, 190:192 et seq.; 3. Judith Arseneau died 30 Oct 1819. Third Generation 4. (3) Francois Savoie[2,3,4,5] was born about 1684. He married[2,3,4] Marie-Josephe Richard on 23 Nov 1707 in Port-Royal, Acadia. 5. Marie-Josephe Richard[2,3,4,5] was born about 1691. 6. (9) Claude Arseneau was born about 1699. He died before 1752. Claude married Marguerite Richard about 1725. 7. Marguerite Richard was born about 1702. Fourth Generation 8. (2) Germain Savoie[2,6,7] was born about 1654. He died about Dec 1729. Germain married[2,6,7] (1a) Marie Breau dite Vincelotte Brault about 1678. 9. (1a) Marie Breau dite Vincelotte Brault[2,6,7] was born about 1662. She died 23 Oct 1749 in Port-Royal, Acadia and was buried 24 Oct 1749 in Port-Royal, Acadia. 10. (5) Alexandre Richard[3,8,9] was born about 1668. He died 4 Oct 1709 in Port-Royal, Acadia and was buried[10] 6 Oct 1709 in St-Jean-Baptiste, Port-Royal, Acadia. Alexandre married[3,8,9] (1g) Isabelle Petitpas Elizabeth about 1690. BURIAL: http://www.novascotia.ca/nsarm/virtual/acadian/archives.asp?ID=1444 . An Acadian Parish Remembered The Registers of St. Jean-Baptiste, Annapolis Royal, 1702-1755 . Alexandre Richard . Registre RG 1 Vol. 26 p.349 Register Prêtre Justinien Durand Priest Date d'enregistrement 6 October 1709 Registration date Événement Burial Event Nom Alexandre Richard died 4 October 1709 Name Témoins 11. (1g) Isabelle Petitpas Elizabeth[3,8,9,11,12,13,14] was born about 1670. 12. (1) Pierre Arseneau[15,16,17] was born about 1650. He died before 1714. Pierre married[16,17] (1b) Marie Guerin before 1686. 13. (1b) Marie Guerin[16,18] was born about 1662. She died about 25 Apr 1723 in Beaubassin, Acadia. 14. (6) Martin Richard[9] was born about 1665. He died before 6 Feb 1748. Martin married[9] (2d) Marguerite Bourg about 1691. 15. (2d) Marguerite Bourg[9] was born about 1673. Appendix A - Sources 1. Phoebe Chauvin Morrison, Generations... Past to Present Vol 1, p 150 Dufresne Paul (1303). 2. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes 1636-1714 v2, p 1457-1459 Savoie Germain (2). 3. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1378-1380 Richard Alexandre (5). 4. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1460-1461 Savoie Francois (3). 5. Diocese of Baton Rouge v 1aR, p 177-178 (SGA-2, 77). 6. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes 1636-1714 v1, p 270-272 Breau Vincent (1). 7. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1456-1457 Savoie Francois (1). 8. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1295-1296 Petitpas Claude (1). 9. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 1373-1375 Richard Michel (1). 10. An Acadian Parish Remembered, RG 1 Vol. 26 p.349 Richard Alexandre. 11. Stephen A White, DGFA v1, p 184-186 Boudrot Michel (1). 12. Stephen A White, Histoire de la Famille de Michel Boudrot, p 1-2 Boudrot Michel (1). 13. Stephen A White, DGFA v1, p 195 Boudrot Olivier (6). 14. Stephen A White, Famille de Michel Boudrot, p 11 Boudrot Olivier (6). 15. Stephen A White, DGFA v1, p 562-564 Dugas Abraham (1). 16. Stephen A White, DGFA v1, p 775-776 Guerin Francois (1). 17. Stephen A White, DGFA v1, p 23-24 Arseneau Pierre (1). 18. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 926-928 Landry Jean (7). -----Original Message----- From: Josephine and Keith via <[email protected]> To: Mitch Conover <[email protected]>; acadian <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2015 8:00 am Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Savoie-Broussard Can I please ask for some guidance on this one? I show the Charles Savoie who was Germain and Marie's son was born in abt 1703 and married Francoise Martin, dau of Etienne Martin and Josephe Marie Comeaux, in 1730. The Charles Savoie who I show was married to Judith Arseneaux was the son of Francois Xavier Savoie and Marie Josephe Richard, was born in 1721, and married Judith Arseneaux in 1761. (This Charles is my 6th Great Grandfather.) Do I have the two Charles' families incorrect? Keith Lorando

You probably already know this. The orphan Basile DesRoches - in the household of Charles Savoie & Judith Arsenault/Arseneau - was Judith's nephew. I'm a descendant of Judith's sister Marie, who married Norman immigrant Julien DesRoches. Basile was a son of Marie & Julien. I'm descended from Basile's brother Mathurin DesRoches. Family oral history tells that Julien & Marie & 2 of their other children died of a "contagion" not long before the 1758 Expulsion from present-day Prince Edward Island. The kids were taken in by various relatives. Basile is the only one who was eventually caught up in the Expulsion. Charles Savoie & Judith Arseneau were indeed among the refugees at Restigouche in the Bay of Chaleurs (which divides northern New Brunswick from the Gaspé region of Québec), until hardship forced that group of holdouts to surrender, whereupon they were (yes) among the huge number of Acadian prisoners held at Halifax and a couple of other sites until well after t! he 1763 peace treaty. This particular household went with the Beausoleil Broussard expedition to the Caribbean & then New Orleans in late 1764-early 1765. See pp. 12-13 in this file: http://1drv.ms/1tBXwtV . I can provide other sources if wanted.

Dear John, Thank you for the DesRoches information! When I asked the Savoie question on the List, I mostly wanted to know what happened to Bazile - how he was orphaned, where in Acadie he lived, the circumstances of his family's expulsion. Judging by his arrival time in Louisiana, I suspected that he had been in Broussard's group, the ones who wouldn't let the governor of Saint-Domingue send them to Mole-St-Nicolas. And I was fairly certain that Judith Arseneaux was his mother's sister. But I had no idea when I cast out that question that I would reel in such a fascinating and detailed story of the family in France and l'Acadie. I wish I had known all this several years ago when I drove through Carolles. I was only able to get a photo of the church, as sunset was closing in and I had miles (or kilometers) to go... I would have stayed overnight and explored the area. The study that Marcel Barriault did is quite impressive in its scope and documentation, as is your translation. I appreciate that you described the nuances of the language and explained how and why you translated certain words and passages. Is Part Two accessible online as well - preferably translated, or in French ? Thank you for sharing all of this with me and for adding to my appreciation of my Des Roches heritage. Your cousine, Augusta Elmwood New Orleans On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:02 AM, John Estano deRoche via < [email protected]> wrote: > You probably already know this. The orphan Basile DesRoches - in the > household of Charles Savoie & Judith Arsenault/Arseneau - was Judith's > nephew. I'm a descendant of Judith's sister Marie, who married Norman > immigrant Julien DesRoches. Basile was a son of Marie & Julien. I'm > descended from Basile's brother Mathurin DesRoches. Family oral history > tells that Julien & Marie & 2 of their other children died of a "contagion" > not long before the 1758 Expulsion from present-day Prince Edward Island. > The kids were taken in by various relatives. Basile is the only one who > was eventually caught up in the Expulsion. Charles Savoie & Judith > Arseneau were indeed among the refugees at Restigouche in the Bay of > Chaleurs (which divides northern New Brunswick from the Gaspé region of > Québec), until hardship forced that group of holdouts to surrender, > whereupon they were (yes) among the huge number of Acadian prisoners held > at Halifax and a couple of other sites until well after the 1763 peace > treaty. This particular household went with the Beausoleil Broussard > expedition to the Caribbean & then New Orleans in late 1764-early 1765. > See pp. 12-13 in this file: http://1drv.ms/1tBXwtV . I can provide other > sources if wanted. > > > . > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a > confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the > "Name" you would like us to call you. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- "History must have, as its companions, Truth and Liberty; and unless it has this sublime escort, it is nothing but Deception or Base Adulation." ---Médéric-Louis-Élie Moreau de Saint-Méry in his journal of his stay in America