Thanks for all the info. Yes, Elia Leger(e) below was my grandmother & those children are correct for Marie Octavie McBride's two marriages, plus daughter Philomene Stemman(s). Great find on Joseph Ulysses' birth. Thanks! I have some on Henrich/Heinrich/Henry I'll send & explain (if I can) the confusion. ________________________________ From: "pleblan@aim.com" <pleblan@aim.com> To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:52:48 PM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Stemmann, Cyprien m. 1876 Opelousas Marie Octavie McBride Something to get us started. I could only find courthouse marriage. I wonder if we need to check 1876 SWLA paper book for bad spellings? I will try census next & then see what I can find on Henri Paul Le B l'Ascension Louisiane ================================================== If this was him 10 years old when married (I wonder if should be 1856?) STEMMAN, Cyrus (Henri & Petronille ARCENEAUX) b. 9 Dec. 1866 (Laf. Ch.: v. 6, # 89) McBRIDE, Marie Octavie (William & Melasie HOLLIER) b. 31 Jan 1859 (Opel. Ch.: v. 6, p. 103) ================ 1st marriage McBRIDE, Octavie m. 19 Aug. 1876 Cyprien STEMMAN (Opel. Ct. Hse.: Mar. #8769) STEMMAN, Cyprien m. 19 Aug. 1876 Octavie McBRIDE (Opel. Ct. Hse.: Mar. # 8769) STAMEN, Joseph Henri (Cyprien & Octavie McBRIDE) b. 4 Oct. 1877 (PB Ch.: v. 1, p. 50 & Leon. Ch.: v. 1, p. 29) STANEMAN, Joseph Ulysse (Cyprien & Octavie McBRIDE) b. 1 March 1879 (PB Ch.: v. 1, p. 65 & Leon. Ch.: v. 1, p. 37) STEMMANS, Ludovie (Cyprien & Marie Octavie McBRIDE) b. 12 March 1885 (Carencro Ch.: v. 2, p. 42) ======================= 2nd marriage McBRIDE, Octavie m. 20 Feb. 1889 Constan LEGER (Laf. Ct. Hse.: Mar. #4319) LEGER, Constan m. 20 Feb. 1889 Octavie McBRIDE (Laf. Ct. Hse. Mar. #4319) McBRIDE, Octavie (William & Melanie HOLLIER) m. 23 Feb. 1889 Constant LEGER (Carencro Ch.: v. 2, p. 74) LEGER, Constant (Hypolite & Marcellite LEBART) m. 23 Feb. 1889 Octavie McBRIDE (Carencro Ch.: v. 2, p. 74) LEGER, Elia (Constant & Octavie McBRIDE) b. 18 Sept. 1889 (Laf. Ch.: v. 9, p. 140) LEGER, Mary Evia (Constant & Octavie MCBRIDE) b. 28 Sept. 1891 (Carencro Ch.: v. 2, p. 171) LEGER, Marie Anita (Constant & Octavie MCBRIDE) b. 10 Oct. 1893 (Carencro Ch.: v. 3, p. 59) LEGER, Fabien (Constant & Octavie McBRIDE) b. 1 Dec. 1895 (Carencro Ch.: v.3, p. 175) LEGER, Claude (Constant & Octavie McBRIDE) b. 29 July 1898 (Carencro Ch.: v.3, p.343) -----Original Message----- From: Liz Hall Morgan Hi cousins, Cyprien Stemmann/Stemann/Stemmans, etc. was my great-grandma Marie Octavie "Tavie" McBride's first husband. I am having trouble with his parentage. He died at age 35, according to death or burial record of 1887 from Carencro in SWLR, so he was b. abt. 1852, probably in Avoyelles Parish, where his family is in the census in 1850. His father and brother (or half-brother?) are both named Henrich/Heinrich/Henry Christoph/e Stemann (or variant spelling), so it's a bit confusing as to who's who. Can someone please check Cyprien's "SW La. Records" marriage record to see if his parents are listed? Or possibly the SWLR CD for any paternal grandparents listed for his children (below)? Joseph Henri b. 4 Oct. 1877, recorded at Port Barre church Joseph Ulysse b. abt 1879? Port Barre? (I couldn't find his birth in SWLR books; his death is there.) Philomene b. 2 Mar 1881, Port Barre or Carencro area? (I couldn't find her birth in SWLR books; date is from her headstone at St. Peter's in Carencro) Ludovic b. 12 Mar 1885, recorded at Carencro church I have more info on the children if anyone's interested. An additional question, if you'll bear with me: Where would I find Avoyelles Parish (Marksville area, probably) church records for Cyprien's possible birth or baptism record (if his family was Catholic)? DOBR volumes perhaps? Various spellings I've found are: STEMMANN, STEMMANS, STEMANN, STEMMONS, STEMMAN, STANNMAN, STEMAN, STAYMAN, STEIMAN Thanks so much for any help. :) Liz Hall Morgan Los Angeles, CA (Sulphur, LA native) ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message