Karen   I see the descrepancies about the age of Claude Guédry, but I see nothing of what you said referring to Claude's parentage.   We have no information to lead us in the correct direction as to the correct age of Claude. The age found in the Laroque census could very well be correct. We notice that Anne is reported to be a Theriot (an obvious copy of the wife in the previous entry). She is also shown as being 38a which could be a copy of Claude's age. But we know that Anne Lejeune was probably 10 yrs. younger. Many census takers over time try to make couples nearly the same age which would explain the ages reported in France.   Who has a register copy for Claude's second marriage? Mr. White refers to a dispensation for affinity for this marriage. Were the parents of Claude not listed?   Another line of thought begins with the fact that Anne Lejeune's father Germaine took as his second wife Marie Guédry (a daughter of Jean Baptiste hung in Boston and Madeline Mius). This shows a very familial association. I honestly cannot make a conclusion as to who the parents of Claude were. But there is absolutely nothing to show he was from a different brother.   .....and his age reported in France could also be correct and he be the son of JB-Madeleine Mius!!! JB was hung in 1726 and Madeleine was barely into her 30's. Many families have a child 10 yrs. after the previous child --- also there could have been many more children in the middle --- they were lost in history or died at a very young age!!!         C         > From: KATheriot@aol.com > Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 01:50:53 -0400 > To: acadian@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Guedry Claude m1 Anne Lejeune m2 1762 Anne Moyse > > Marty, > > I find your arguments about the birth year and possible parents of Claude > GUEDRY very persuasive, and have a few details to add to your synopsis. > > The birth dates and baptisms of the three youngest boys of Claude Guedry & > Anne Lejeune (dit Briard) are in the Acadian records published in: > Hebert, Tim, trans. & ed., Acadian Church Records, Port LaJoye, Ile St. > Jean, 1749-1758 (Houma, LA: Acadian-Cajun Genealogy & History, 2000). > > p. 38: Pierre Janvier GUIDRY, born 18 Jul 1752, baptized 20 Aug 1752. > Sponsors: Joseph LUCOS & Josephe BOUDROT. > > p. 56: Charles Olivier GUEDRY, born 29 Oct 1754, baptized 12 Feb 1755. > Sponsors: Pierre HENRY & Margeritte BENOIST. > > p. 85: Claude Augustin GUEDRY, son of Claude GUEDRY & Anne LEJEUNE, born > 13 May 1758, baptized 13 May 1758. Sponsors: Jean Baptiste BENOIST & Anne > BOURG. > > Also, another child is listed for the family of Augustin GUEDRY & Jeanne > HEBERT, in an article by Ronnie-Gilles LeBlanc, "Pigiguit: l'impact du Grand > Dérangement sur une communauté de l'ancienne Acadie," in Du Grand > Dérangement à la Déportation: Nouvelles perspectives historiques (Moncton, NB: > Chaire d'études acadiennes, 2005), p. 244. He lists Jean Baptiste GUEDRY (born > about 1728) who married Anne DUPUIS as their son. I think this additional > child makes it even more likely that Claude was the son of Paul GUEDRY & > Anne-Marie MIUS d'AZY. > > By the way, in his draft version of the new DGFA-2, Stephen White has > another child in Paul's family--Marie Josephe (born about 1724) who married > Charles BOUTIN. > > And finally, there is a GUIDRY DNA project at Family Tree DNA which has > only one member at the moment. Perhaps with many submitters of male Y-DNA > with this surname, there will be a slight mutation in some lines which will > distinguish them. Since these are carried forward into each subsequent > generation, DNA testing can differentiate various descendancies. > > Hope this helps. > > Karen Theriot Reader > > > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =

Hi all, I'm not following the Guidry discussion extremely closely (not a direct line of mine, though it sounds interesting), but this statement caught my eye. Cecil, could you explain, please, the general concept (you don't have to get into the Guidry specifics of it for me)? <snip> "Many census takers over time try to make couples nearly the same age which would explain the ages reported in France." I'm not sure I follow exactly what you mean--the same census taker in the same place for many censuses? Or (which I think is probably the idea) many different census takers have been found to do this on many different occasions in Acadian &/or French or other censuses? If so, why? Laziness &/or expediency? Cultural taboos about age differences between man & wife? I know people didn't keep as close track of their ages in previous times, and that census takers or family members (or even neighbors) might estimate ages of others, and therefore be in error, but this is (if I'm understanding what you meant) a new concept to me, probably because I haven't examined Acadian censuses for my ancestors very closely (have concentrated on b/m/d & exile migration so far) & so I haven't noticed this as of yet, at least not in U.S. censuses. Thanks for clarifying (& for your patience :) ), Liz ________________________________ From: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, October 24, 2010 5:20:32 AM Subject: [ACADIAN] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Failure) Karen I see the descrepancies about the age of Claude Guédry, but I see nothing of what you said referring to Claude's parentage. We have no information to lead us in the correct direction as to the correct age of Claude. The age found in the Laroque census could very well be correct. We notice that Anne is reported to be a Theriot (an obvious copy of the wife in the previous entry). She is also shown as being 38a which could be a copy of Claude's age. But we know that Anne Lejeune was probably 10 yrs. younger. Many census takers over time try to make couples nearly the same age which would explain the ages reported in France. Who has a register copy for Claude's second marriage? Mr. White refers to a dispensation for affinity for this marriage. Were the parents of Claude not listed? Another line of thought begins with the fact that Anne Lejeune's father Germaine took as his second wife Marie Guédry (a daughter of Jean Baptiste hung in Boston and Madeline Mius). This shows a very familial association. I honestly cannot make a conclusion as to who the parents of Claude were. But there is absolutely nothing to show he was from a different brother. .....and his age reported in France could also be correct and he be the son of JB-Madeleine Mius!!! JB was hung in 1726 and Madeleine was barely into her 30's. Many families have a child 10 yrs. after the previous child --- also there could have been many more children in the middle --- they were lost in history or died at a very young age!!! C > From: KATheriot@aol.com > Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 01:50:53 -0400 > To: acadian@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Guedry Claude m1 Anne Lejeune m2 1762 Anne Moyse > > Marty, > > I find your arguments about the birth year and possible parents of Claude > GUEDRY very persuasive, and have a few details to add to your synopsis. > > The birth dates and baptisms of the three youngest boys of Claude Guedry & > Anne Lejeune (dit Briard) are in the Acadian records published in: > Hebert, Tim, trans. & ed., Acadian Church Records, Port LaJoye, Ile St. > Jean, 1749-1758 (Houma, LA: Acadian-Cajun Genealogy & History, 2000). > > p. 38: Pierre Janvier GUIDRY, born 18 Jul 1752, baptized 20 Aug 1752. > Sponsors: Joseph LUCOS & Josephe BOUDROT. > > p. 56: Charles Olivier GUEDRY, born 29 Oct 1754, baptized 12 Feb 1755. > Sponsors: Pierre HENRY & Margeritte BENOIST. > > p. 85: Claude Augustin GUEDRY, son of Claude GUEDRY & Anne LEJEUNE, born > 13 May 1758, baptized 13 May 1758. Sponsors: Jean Baptiste BENOIST & Anne > BOURG. > > Also, another child is listed for the family of Augustin GUEDRY & Jeanne > HEBERT, in an article by Ronnie-Gilles LeBlanc, "Pigiguit: l'impact du Grand > Dérangement sur une communauté de l'ancienne Acadie," in Du Grand > Dérangement à la Déportation: Nouvelles perspectives historiques (Moncton, NB: > Chaire d'études acadiennes, 2005), p. 244. He lists Jean Baptiste GUEDRY (born > about 1728) who married Anne DUPUIS as their son. I think this additional > child makes it even more likely that Claude was the son of Paul GUEDRY & > Anne-Marie MIUS d'AZY. > > By the way, in his draft version of the new DGFA-2, Stephen White has > another child in Paul's family--Marie Josephe (born about 1724) who married > Charles BOUTIN. > > And finally, there is a GUIDRY DNA project at Family Tree DNA which has > only one member at the moment. Perhaps with many submitters of male Y-DNA > with this surname, there will be a slight mutation in some lines which will > distinguish them. Since these are carried forward into each subsequent > generation, DNA testing can differentiate various descendancies. > > Hope this helps. > > Karen Theriot Reader > > > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message = ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message