my notes in brackets. I'm not fluent but I think I got the general idea. Feel free to correct me, anyone. DGFA note p. 50: In January, 1759, there were at the city of Quebec two Aucoin families in which the head had the first name Pierre-- that of Pierre [Aucoin] and Elisabeth Breau, and that of Pierre [Aucoin] and Marguerite Dupuis. The two Pierres lost their lives during the smallpox epidemic. The one who died during the octave of Christmas 1757* is well identified as the spouse of Elisabeth Breau. We think that the other, the one who died one month later, should be the spouse of Marguerite Dupuis, the same [the same one as her spouse] if his age in the act of his burial [burial record] is strongly exaggerated. *See "octave" in the Catholic Encyclopedia online at: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11204a.htm It's a day associated w/Christmas liturgy but it's kinda long & confusing. Maybe someone who knows more about liturgy can give us an approximate date, or we can find it in Drouin or other records. ________________________________ From: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 9:14:41 AM Subject: [ACADIAN] Parents of Marguerite Dupuis who married abt 1735 (16) Pierre Aucoin? The mother of Anne Aucoin who married Joseph Cheramy was Marguerite Dupuis. SAW DGFA v 1 pg 49 does not list her parents. SAW Adds & Correction does not have any have them either. Could a French reader translate the other notes below for pg 49-50? Has anyone seen anything NEW? Any likely Candidates? Paul Le B l'Ascension Louisiane ================================================== http://www.umoncton.ca/umcm-ceaac/files/umcm-ceaac/wf/wf/pdf/corrections.pdf p 49 (sept 2003) La même famille Ajouter, après «Rg Calais (Picardie)», «Rg civil Boulogne-sur-Mer (Pas-de- Calais)» et «Rg civil Calais (Pas-de-Calais)». [Renseignements au sujet d'Hyacinthe et Chérubin contribués par Bruno Haffreingue, de Boulognesur- Mer (France)]. Ajouter, après les Documents officiels, «Source secondaire. M. Godret, «Mariages acadiens à Cherbourg», Racines & Rameaux français d'Acadie, no 26, 2002, p 9». Famille de René Aucoin (6) RENÉ AUCOIN. Au lieu de «d après Rc 1755», lire d (selon P. Delaney) entre sept 1755 & fin sept 1756». MADELEINE BOURG. Au lieu de «d après 28 juill 1754», lire «d (selon P. Delaney) entre sept 1755 & fin sept 1756». p 49 (août 2007) La même famille a. Pierre. Au lieu de «d av 1er déc 1757», lire «d/s Rg Qué 27/28 janv 1758 60a env (sic)». p 50 (août 2007) La même famille Note de S.A. White En janvier 1758, il y avait à la ville de Québec deux familles Aucoin dont le chef était prénommé Pierre, celle de Pierre et d'Élisabeth Breau et celle de Pierre et de Marguerite Dupuis. Les deux Pierre ont perdu la vie durant l'épidémie de la petite vérole. Celui qui est décédé durant l'octave de Noël 1757 est bien identifié comme époux d'Élisabeth Breau. Nous croyons que l'autre, celui qui est décédé un mois plus tard, devait être l'époux de Marguerite Dupuis, même si son âge dans l'acte de http://www0.umoncton.ca/etudeacadiennes/centre/cor-dict.htm 09-02-17 12:28 Page 13 of 145 plus tard, devait être l'époux de Marguerite Dupuis, même si son âge dans l'acte de sa sépulture est fort exagéré. p 50 (sept 2003) La même famille Ajouter: «Source secondaire. Paul Delaney, ´L'identification des Acadiens morts de la variole à Bristol en 1756´, SHA, vol XXX, 1999, p 24». ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, that should be Jan. 1758, NOT 1759 in the first line. ________________________________ From: Liz Hall Morgan <hallroots@sbcglobal.net> To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 4:06:24 PM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Parents of Marguerite Dupuis who married abt 1735 (16) Pierre Aucoin? my notes in brackets. I'm not fluent but I think I got the general idea. Feel free to correct me, anyone. DGFA note p. 50: In January, 1759, there were at the city of Quebec two Aucoin families in which the head had the first name Pierre-- that of Pierre [Aucoin] and Elisabeth Breau, and that of Pierre [Aucoin] and Marguerite Dupuis. The two Pierres lost their lives during the smallpox epidemic. The one who died during the octave of Christmas 1757* is well identified as the spouse of Elisabeth Breau. We think that the other, the one who died one month later, should be the spouse of Marguerite Dupuis, the same [the same one as her spouse] if his age in the act of his burial [burial record] is strongly exaggerated. *See "octave" in the Catholic Encyclopedia online at: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11204a.htm It's a day associated w/Christmas liturgy but it's kinda long & confusing. Maybe someone who knows more about liturgy can give us an approximate date, or we can find it in Drouin or other records. ________________________________ From: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 9:14:41 AM Subject: [ACADIAN] Parents of Marguerite Dupuis who married abt 1735 (16) Pierre Aucoin? The mother of Anne Aucoin who married Joseph Cheramy was Marguerite Dupuis. SAW DGFA v 1 pg 49 does not list her parents. SAW Adds & Correction does not have any have them either. Could a French reader translate the other notes below for pg 49-50? Has anyone seen anything NEW? Any likely Candidates? Paul Le B l'Ascension Louisiane ================================================== http://www.umoncton.ca/umcm-ceaac/files/umcm-ceaac/wf/wf/pdf/corrections.pdf p 49 (sept 2003) La même famille Ajouter, après «Rg Calais (Picardie)», «Rg civil Boulogne-sur-Mer (Pas-de- Calais)» et «Rg civil Calais (Pas-de-Calais)». [Renseignements au sujet d'Hyacinthe et Chérubin contribués par Bruno Haffreingue, de Boulognesur- Mer (France)]. Ajouter, après les Documents officiels, «Source secondaire. M. Godret, «Mariages acadiens à Cherbourg», Racines & Rameaux français d'Acadie, no 26, 2002, p 9». Famille de René Aucoin (6) RENÉ AUCOIN. Au lieu de «d après Rc 1755», lire d (selon P. Delaney) entre sept 1755 & fin sept 1756». MADELEINE BOURG. Au lieu de «d après 28 juill 1754», lire «d (selon P. Delaney) entre sept 1755 & fin sept 1756». p 49 (août 2007) La même famille a. Pierre. Au lieu de «d av 1er déc 1757», lire «d/s Rg Qué 27/28 janv 1758 60a env (sic)». p 50 (août 2007) La même famille Note de S.A. White En janvier 1758, il y avait à la ville de Québec deux familles Aucoin dont le chef était prénommé Pierre, celle de Pierre et d'Élisabeth Breau et celle de Pierre et de Marguerite Dupuis. Les deux Pierre ont perdu la vie durant l'épidémie de la petite vérole. Celui qui est décédé durant l'octave de Noël 1757 est bien identifié comme époux d'Élisabeth Breau. Nous croyons que l'autre, celui qui est décédé un mois plus tard, devait être l'époux de Marguerite Dupuis, même si son âge dans l'acte de http://www0.umoncton.ca/etudeacadiennes/centre/cor-dict.htm 09-02-17 12:28 Page 13 of 145 plus tard, devait être l'époux de Marguerite Dupuis, même si son âge dans l'acte de sa sépulture est fort exagéré. p 50 (sept 2003) La même famille Ajouter: «Source secondaire. Paul Delaney, ´L'identification des Acadiens morts de la variole à Bristol en 1756´, SHA, vol XXX, 1999, p 24».

I may answered my own question about the "octave de Noel" by reading ALL of the corrections Paul posted-- mea culpa -- that is, if the Pierre Aucoin who married Marguerite Dupuis is the same as the son below of Pierre Aucoin who married Madeleine Bourg. I don't have these family pages so I may not be totally clear on this. Pierre Aucoin who married Madeleine Bourg -- his death date is corrected by White-- translation w/ my notes in brackets: p. 49 ([corrected] Aug. 2007) The same family: a. Pierre. Instead of "died before the first of Dec 1757," read [substitute] "died/buried [according to the] Quebec [parish] register 27/28 Jan. 1758 at about 60 years [old] (sic)" so the "octave" date must be around the end of December if this Pierre Aucoin above died one month after the other Pierre Aucoin. and I should have translated that White thinks this is the same Pierre "EVEN IF," not simply "if" his age in the act of his burial [burial record] is strongly exaggerated -- if Google translate is correct, that is. :) Here are the rest of the notes -- I may be over-explaining but I'm sure there are some on the list who have not worked w/these volumes. For those who own them or are copying pages for their own use -- refer to or copy some of the pages after "ciii" for keys to SAW's abbreviations & you will find they become sort of a second language to you once you work w/them a bit. p. 49 ([corrected] Sept 2003) The same family: Add, after "Rg Calais (Picardie)": "Rg civil Boulogne-sur-Mer (Pas-de- Calais)" and «Rg civil Calais (Pas-de-Calais)». [SAW is adding civil register sources from France here -- Rg is his abbreviation for French word for "register," parish (church) registers unless he specifies civil registers. Rc = census, BTW] [Censuses on the subject of Hyacinthe and Chérubin [names of other children listed by SAW on the same page??] contributed by Bruno Haffreingue, of Boulogne sur Mer (France)]. Add, after les Documents officiels [Official Documents], «Source secondaire. M. Godret, «Mariages acadiens à Cherbourg», Racines & Rameaux français d'Acadie, no 26, 2002, p 9». [Secondary source, it's an article "Acadian Marriages at Cherbourg," from journal "French Roots & Shoots of Acadia" ?? unless perhaps it's about the last names Racine & Rameau...] Famille de René Aucoin (6) RENÉ AUCOIN. Instead of «died after Rc [census] 1755», read [substitute] "died (according to P. Delaney) between sept 1755 & the end of sept 1756" MADELEINE BOURG. Instead of «died after 28 July 1754», substitute «died (according to P. Delaney) between sept 1755 & the end of sept 1756». p. 49 ([corrected] Aug. 2007) The same family: a. Pierre. Instead of "died before the first of Dec 1757," read [substitute] "died/buried [according to the] Quebec [parish] register 27/28 Jan. 1758 at about 60 years [old] (sic)" [I think this is Notre Dame de Quebec in Quebec City, if I remember correctly??] [long note translated in previous post below] p. 50 ([corrected] Sept 2003) the same family: Add: «Source secondaire. Paul Delaney, ´L'identification des Acadiens morts de la variole à Bristol en 1756´, SHA, vol XXX, 1999, p 24». [Secondary source. Paul Delaney, "The identification of the Acadians [who] died of smallpox at Bristol in 1756," SHA is the journal "Cahiers de la Societe historique acadienne," or Notebooks[? Notes?] of the Acadian Historical Society.] ________________________________ From: Liz Hall Morgan <hallroots@sbcglobal.net> To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 4:08:50 PM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Parents of Marguerite Dupuis who married abt 1735 (16) Pierre Aucoin? Sorry, that should be Jan. 1758, NOT 1759 in the first line. ________________________________ From: Liz Hall Morgan <hallroots@sbcglobal.net> To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 4:06:24 PM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Parents of Marguerite Dupuis who married abt 1735 (16) Pierre Aucoin? my notes in brackets. I'm not fluent but I think I got the general idea. Feel free to correct me, anyone. DGFA note p. 50: In January, 1759, there were at the city of Quebec two Aucoin families in which the head had the first name Pierre-- that of Pierre [Aucoin] and Elisabeth Breau, and that of Pierre [Aucoin] and Marguerite Dupuis. The two Pierres lost their lives during the smallpox epidemic. The one who died during the octave of Christmas 1757* is well identified as the spouse of Elisabeth Breau. We think that the other, the one who died one month later, should be the spouse of Marguerite Dupuis, the same [the same one as her spouse] if his age in the act of his burial [burial record] is strongly exaggerated. *See "octave" in the Catholic Encyclopedia online at: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11204a.htm It's a day associated w/Christmas liturgy but it's kinda long & confusing. Maybe someone who knows more about liturgy can give us an approximate date, or we can find it in Drouin or other records. ________________________________ From: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 9:14:41 AM Subject: [ACADIAN] Parents of Marguerite Dupuis who married abt 1735 (16) Pierre Aucoin? The mother of Anne Aucoin who married Joseph Cheramy was Marguerite Dupuis. SAW DGFA v 1 pg 49 does not list her parents. SAW Adds & Correction does not have any have them either. Could a French reader translate the other notes below for pg 49-50? Has anyone seen anything NEW? Any likely Candidates? Paul Le B l'Ascension Louisiane ================================================== http://www.umoncton.ca/umcm-ceaac/files/umcm-ceaac/wf/wf/pdf/corrections.pdf p 49 (sept 2003) La même famille Ajouter, après «Rg Calais (Picardie)», «Rg civil Boulogne-sur-Mer (Pas-de- Calais)» et «Rg civil Calais (Pas-de-Calais)». [Renseignements au sujet d'Hyacinthe et Chérubin contribués par Bruno Haffreingue, de Boulognesur- Mer (France)]. Ajouter, après les Documents officiels, «Source secondaire. M. Godret, «Mariages acadiens à Cherbourg», Racines & Rameaux français d'Acadie, no 26, 2002, p 9». Famille de René Aucoin (6) RENÉ AUCOIN. Au lieu de «d après Rc 1755», lire d (selon P. Delaney) entre sept 1755 & fin sept 1756». MADELEINE BOURG. Au lieu de «d après 28 juill 1754», lire «d (selon P. Delaney) entre sept 1755 & fin sept 1756». p 49 (août 2007) La même famille a. Pierre. Au lieu de «d av 1er déc 1757», lire «d/s Rg Qué 27/28 janv 1758 60a env (sic)». p 50 (août 2007) La même famille Note de S.A. White En janvier 1758, il y avait à la ville de Québec deux familles Aucoin dont le chef était prénommé Pierre, celle de Pierre et d'Élisabeth Breau et celle de Pierre et de Marguerite Dupuis. Les deux Pierre ont perdu la vie durant l'épidémie de la petite vérole. Celui qui est décédé durant l'octave de Noël 1757 est bien identifié comme époux d'Élisabeth Breau. Nous croyons que l'autre, celui qui est décédé un mois plus tard, devait être l'époux de Marguerite Dupuis, même si son âge dans l'acte de http://www0.umoncton.ca/etudeacadiennes/centre/cor-dict.htm 09-02-17 12:28 Page 13 of 145 plus tard, devait être l'époux de Marguerite Dupuis, même si son âge dans l'acte de sa sépulture est fort exagéré. p 50 (sept 2003) La même famille Ajouter: «Source secondaire. Paul Delaney, ´L'identification des Acadiens morts de la variole à Bristol en 1756´, SHA, vol XXX, 1999, p 24».

What is the Christmas Carol - on the 8th day of Christmas. The other Pierre Aucoin during the week after (before?) Christmas. -----Original Message----- From: Liz Hall Morgan my notes in brackets. I'm not fluent but I think I got the general idea. Feel free to correct me, anyone. DGFA note p. 50: In January, 1759, there were at the city of Quebec two Aucoin families in which the head had the first name Pierre-- that of Pierre [Aucoin] and Elisabeth Breau, and that of Pierre [Aucoin] and Marguerite Dupuis. The two Pierres lost their lives during the smallpox epidemic. The one who died during the octave of Christmas 1757* is well identified as the spouse of Elisabeth Breau. We think that the other, the one who died one month later, should be the spouse of Marguerite Dupuis, the same [the same one as her spouse] if his age in the act of his burial [burial record] is strongly exaggerated. *See "octave" in the Catholic Encyclopedia online at: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11204a.htm It's a day associated w/Christmas liturgy but it's kinda long & confusing. Maybe someone who knows more about liturgy can give us an approximate date, or we can find it in Drouin or other records. ________________________________ From: Paul L LeBlanc The mother of Anne Aucoin who married Joseph Cheramy was Marguerite Dupuis. SAW DGFA v 1 pg 49 does not list her parents. SAW Adds & Correction does not have any have them either. Could a French reader translate the other notes below for pg 49-50? Has anyone seen anything NEW? Any likely Candidates? Paul Le B l'Ascension Louisiane ================================================== http://www.umoncton.ca/umcm-ceaac/files/umcm-ceaac/wf/wf/pdf/corrections.pdf p 49 (sept 2003) La même famille Ajouter, après «Rg Calais (Picardie)», «Rg civil Boulogne-sur-Mer (Pas-de- Calais)» et «Rg civil Calais (Pas-de-Calais)». [Renseignements au sujet d'Hyacinthe et Chérubin contribués par Bruno Haffreingue, de Boulognesur- Mer (France)]. Ajouter, après les Documents officiels, «Source secondaire. M. Godret, «Mariages acadiens à Cherbourg», Racines & Rameaux français d'Acadie, no 26, 2002, p 9». Famille de René Aucoin (6) RENÉ AUCOIN. Au lieu de «d après Rc 1755», lire d (selon P. Delaney) entre sept 1755 & fin sept 1756». MADELEINE BOURG. Au lieu de «d après 28 juill 1754», lire «d (selon P. Delaney) entre sept 1755 & fin sept 1756». p 49 (août 2007) La même famille a. Pierre. Au lieu de «d av 1er déc 1757», lire «d/s Rg Qué 27/28 janv 1758 60a env (sic)». p 50 (août 2007) La même famille Note de S.A. White En janvier 1758, il y avait à la ville de Québec deux familles Aucoin dont le chef était prénommé Pierre, celle de Pierre et d'Élisabeth Breau et celle de Pierre et de Marguerite Dupuis. Les deux Pierre ont perdu la vie durant l'épidémie de la petite vérole. Celui qui est décédé durant l'octave de Noël 1757 est bien identifié comme époux d'Élisabeth Breau. Nous croyons que l'autre, celui qui est décédé un mois plus tard, devait être l'époux de Marguerite Dupuis, même si son âge dans l'acte de http://www0.umoncton.ca/etudeacadiennes/centre/cor-dict.htm 09-02-17 12:28 Page 13 of 145 plus tard, devait être l'époux de Marguerite Dupuis, même si son âge dans l'acte de sa sépulture est fort exagéré. p 50 (sept 2003) La même famille Ajouter: «Source secondaire. Paul Delaney, ´L'identification des Acadiens morts de la variole à Bristol en 1756´, SHA, vol XXX, 1999, p 24».

In liturgical terms, an octave is an eight-day series of observances that begins with a feast day and ends with another. In this instance, the octave begins with the Solemnity of Christmas, on December 25th, and concludes with the Feast of Mary, Mother of God, on January 1. Pierre Aucoin died within the octave, that is, sometime between December 26 and December 31. Fr John L -----Original Message----- From: Liz Hall Morgan <hallroots@sbcglobal.net> To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Oct 11, 2010 7:06 pm Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Parents of Marguerite Dupuis who married abt 1735 (16) Pierre Aucoin? my notes in brackets. I'm not fluent but I think I got the general idea. Feel ree to correct me, anyone. DGFA note p. 50: In January, 1759, there were at the city of Quebec two Aucoin families in which he head had the first name Pierre-- that of Pierre [Aucoin] and Elisabeth reau, and that of Pierre [Aucoin] and Marguerite Dupuis. The two Pierres lost heir lives during the smallpox epidemic. The one who died during the octave of Christmas 1757* is well identified as the spouse of Elisabeth Breau. We think hat the other, the one who died one month later, should be the spouse of arguerite Dupuis, the same [the same one as her spouse] if his age in the act f his burial [burial record] is strongly exaggerated. *See "octave" in the Catholic Encyclopedia online at: ttp://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11204a.htm It's a day associated w/Christmas liturgy but it's kinda long & confusing. aybe someone who knows more about liturgy can give us an approximate date, or e can find it in Drouin or other records. _______________________________ rom: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> o: acadian@rootsweb.com ent: Mon, October 11, 2010 9:14:41 AM ubject: [ACADIAN] Parents of Marguerite Dupuis who married abt 1735 (16) Pierre Aucoin? The mother of Anne Aucoin who married Joseph Cheramy was Marguerite upuis. SAW DGFA v 1 pg 49 does not list her parents. SAW Adds & Correction does not have any have them either. Could a rench reader translate the other notes below for pg 49-50? Has anyone seen anything NEW? Any likely Candidates? Paul Le B 'Ascension ouisiane ================================================== ttp://www.umoncton.ca/umcm-ceaac/files/umcm-ceaac/wf/wf/pdf/corrections.pdf p 49 (sept 2003) La même famille jouter, après «Rg Calais (Picardie)», «Rg civil Boulogne-sur-Mer Pas-de- alais)» et «Rg civil Calais (Pas-de-Calais)». Renseignements au sujet d'Hyacinthe et Chérubin contribués par Bruno affreingue, de Boulognesur- er (France)]. jouter, après les Documents officiels, «Source secondaire. M. Godret, Mariages acadiens à Cherbourg», Racines & Rameaux français d'Acadie, o 26, 002, p 9». Famille de René Aucoin (6) ENÉ AUCOIN. Au lieu de «d après Rc 1755», lire d (selon P. Delaney) ntre ept 1755 & fin sept 1756». ADELEINE BOURG. Au lieu de «d après 28 juill 1754», lire «d (selon P. elaney) entre sept 1755 & fin sept 1756». 49 (août 2007) La même famille . Pierre. Au lieu de «d av 1er déc 1757», lire «d/s Rg Qué 27/28 janv 758 60a nv (sic)». 50 (août 2007) La même famille ote de S.A. White n janvier 1758, il y avait à la ville de Québec deux familles Aucoin ont le chef tait prénommé Pierre, celle de Pierre et d'Élisabeth Breau et celle de ierre et de arguerite Dupuis. Les deux Pierre ont perdu la vie durant l'épidémie e la petite érole. Celui qui est décédé durant l'octave de Noël 1757 est bien dentifié comme poux d'Élisabeth Breau. Nous croyons que l'autre, celui qui est décédé n mois lus tard, devait être l'époux de Marguerite Dupuis, même si son âge ans l'acte de ttp://www0.umoncton.ca/etudeacadiennes/centre/cor-dict.htm 09-02-17 2:28 age 13 of 145 lus tard, devait être l'époux de Marguerite Dupuis, même si son âge ans l'acte de a sépulture est fort exagéré. 50 (sept 2003) La même famille jouter: «Source secondaire. Paul Delaney, ´L'identification des cadiens morts e la variole à Bristol en 1756´, SHA, vol XXX, 1999, p 24». ------------------------------- o check our Archive ttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------ o subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the essage. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" nrollment spam. 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