M    Winzerling's Acadian Odyssey was written in 1955. I do not believe we had a l'Amitie crew list until Rieder & Rieder The Crew and Passenger .... in 1965 The l'Amitie crew is listed on pg 100 to 103. I have been through it four times. Would someone go behind me & double check.    Winzerling probably assumed he was crew!!!!    Was he a crew member under a different name?  Did he work his passage without being listed as Crew?  Was he a stowaway?  Did he come to New Orleans on the mail packet (ship) from Havana or Santo Domingue?  Was he on another ship?  All are possibilities!!!!    The church register copy of the marriage is missing. We know of the marriage from the letter/report of 2 jan 1786 to Marigny. note on pg 205.    P    -----Original Message-----  From: mladner <marshaladner@att.net>    Hi C. P and All,    For a number of years I have been researching the "Gousman,Gusman, Guzman family  who arrrived in Louisiana aboard the L'Amite in 1785.      Many years ago I was referred to "Acadian Odyssey" by a genealogist/historian,  who said "reference could be found of Rosalia Carlota Guzman's marriage there  and she had married a member of the crew"      Would someone be so kind as to help me either disprove or prove that  statement. I only have a copy of page 202,203,204 and 205. They are named in  Appendix "E". I assumed this genealogist knew of what they apoke. Now I dunno?      The information I have that he was a crewman has been distributed by  myself to several persons and if he WAS NOT a crewman, several persons will have  to be contacted in order to correct it.      The following statement was in an email to the list a short time ago.  Thought the additional information below may help locate something of help.      She did marry twice, the first marriage to Lefaibre was shortly after  her arrival in New Orleans in 1785.. He was a crewman aboard the ship and "was  admitted as an Acadian"      If someone has access to Sacramental Records of this marriage it may be  of help also.      Thanks everybody,      Marsha      -----Original Message-----  From: KATheriot@aol.com    Marsha wrote:    I am researching two people from c. 1800 Louisiana. I think the names have  been Americanized or something. The names are as follows:    DETRESSE, Evan (possibly DUTRESSE?)    LEFAIBRE, Claudio Epiphanio "possibly DeFeuvre"?    Rosalie Charlotte GUZMAN was an Acadian immigrant at age 21, aboard  L'Amitie in 1785 with her father Jean, mother Marie Rosalie BONNEVIE, and baby  brother. She must have married soon after arrival since there is a son buried  on 4 Dec 1789 in St. Bernard Parish, LA.    New Orleans Archives, Sacramental Records, vol. 4, 1784-1790, p. 319:  Simon Glod [WEBER, sic] son of Clod Epifan DE FEBRE & Rosalia Carlota  GUZMAN, infant (SBSB, F1, 7).    Another son was born, baptized at New Orleans (NOSR, vol. 5, p. 104):  Carlos [DE FEUVRE], son of Lodio Epiphanio, native of Caillouelle in  Picardy [Caillouel-Crepigny, dept. of Aisne], & Rosalia Carlota GUZMAN, of  Canada, of San Pedro de Mi[cl]on [St. Pierre-et-Miquelon], born 21 Aug 1791,  baptized 26 Aug 1791. Sponsors: Carlos ZISETE, of Rosel in France, & Maria DE  VERCHERON, of Canada. Grandparents were named: paternal, Lodio DE FEUVRE &  Mariana TUILLIE of Caillouelle; maternal, Juan GUZMAN, of Seville, & Rose  BO[N/R]VILLE, of Canada (SLC, B11, 156).    It looks like Rosalie married again and had another child.    There is an Evan Clement DETRESSE born 17 Jan 1796, baptized at New  Orleans on 20 Apr 1797, son of Evan Juan DETRESSE , native of New York, &  Rosalia Carlota GUZMAN, of Alifax [Halifax, Nova Scotia]. Marginal note in NO  register : died 27 May 1833 (SLC, B14, 30).  Maternal grandparents were named: Juan GUZMAN & Rosa BONNEVIE. Sponsors  were Clemente LA BARRE & Luisa RAPIEO (Sacramental Records, vol. 6,  1796-1799, p. 92).    Karen Theriot Reader     

P, Thanks for checking so thoroughly. We all know what assuming does. I didn't realize the info. from Acadian Odyssey was that old. Maybe someone on list has some ideas one way or the other before I send notice to researchers I sent the "crew member" information to. Thanks again, Marsha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul L LeBlanc" <pleblan@aim.com> To: <acadian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Claudio Epiphanio Lafaibre M Winzerling's Acadian Odyssey was written in 1955. I do not believe we had a l'Amitie crew list until Rieder & Rieder The Crew and Passenger .... in 1965 The l'Amitie crew is listed on pg 100 to 103. I have been through it four times. Would someone go behind me & double check. Winzerling probably assumed he was crew!!!! Was he a crew member under a different name? Did he work his passage without being listed as Crew? Was he a stowaway? Did he come to New Orleans on the mail packet (ship) from Havana or Santo Domingue? Was he on another ship? All are possibilities!!!! The church register copy of the marriage is missing. We know of the marriage from the letter/report of 2 jan 1786 to Marigny. note on pg 205. P -----Original Message----- From: mladner <marshaladner@att.net> Hi C. P and All, For a number of years I have been researching the "Gousman,Gusman, Guzman family who arrrived in Louisiana aboard the L'Amite in 1785. Many years ago I was referred to "Acadian Odyssey" by a genealogist/historian, who said "reference could be found of Rosalia Carlota Guzman's marriage there and she had married a member of the crew" Would someone be so kind as to help me either disprove or prove that statement. I only have a copy of page 202,203,204 and 205. They are named in Appendix "E". I assumed this genealogist knew of what they apoke. Now I dunno? The information I have that he was a crewman has been distributed by myself to several persons and if he WAS NOT a crewman, several persons will have to be contacted in order to correct it. The following statement was in an email to the list a short time ago. Thought the additional information below may help locate something of help. She did marry twice, the first marriage to Lefaibre was shortly after her arrival in New Orleans in 1785.. He was a crewman aboard the ship and "was admitted as an Acadian" If someone has access to Sacramental Records of this marriage it may be of help also. Thanks everybody, Marsha -----Original Message----- From: KATheriot@aol.com Marsha wrote: I am researching two people from c. 1800 Louisiana. I think the names have been Americanized or something. The names are as follows: DETRESSE, Evan (possibly DUTRESSE?) LEFAIBRE, Claudio Epiphanio "possibly DeFeuvre"? Rosalie Charlotte GUZMAN was an Acadian immigrant at age 21, aboard L'Amitie in 1785 with her father Jean, mother Marie Rosalie BONNEVIE, and baby brother. She must have married soon after arrival since there is a son buried on 4 Dec 1789 in St. Bernard Parish, LA. New Orleans Archives, Sacramental Records, vol. 4, 1784-1790, p. 319: Simon Glod [WEBER, sic] son of Clod Epifan DE FEBRE & Rosalia Carlota GUZMAN, infant (SBSB, F1, 7). Another son was born, baptized at New Orleans (NOSR, vol. 5, p. 104): Carlos [DE FEUVRE], son of Lodio Epiphanio, native of Caillouelle in Picardy [Caillouel-Crepigny, dept. of Aisne], & Rosalia Carlota GUZMAN, of Canada, of San Pedro de Mi[cl]on [St. Pierre-et-Miquelon], born 21 Aug 1791, baptized 26 Aug 1791. Sponsors: Carlos ZISETE, of Rosel in France, & Maria DE VERCHERON, of Canada. Grandparents were named: paternal, Lodio DE FEUVRE & Mariana TUILLIE of Caillouelle; maternal, Juan GUZMAN, of Seville, & Rose BO[N/R]VILLE, of Canada (SLC, B11, 156). It looks like Rosalie married again and had another child. There is an Evan Clement DETRESSE born 17 Jan 1796, baptized at New Orleans on 20 Apr 1797, son of Evan Juan DETRESSE , native of New York, & Rosalia Carlota GUZMAN, of Alifax [Halifax, Nova Scotia]. Marginal note in NO register : died 27 May 1833 (SLC, B14, 30). Maternal grandparents were named: Juan GUZMAN & Rosa BONNEVIE. Sponsors were Clemente LA BARRE & Luisa RAPIEO (Sacramental Records, vol. 6, 1796-1799, p. 92). Karen Theriot Reader ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message