Hi all, Are Martin Camersac dit LeBleu and Bartolome LeBleu the same person? It appears that a lot of people think so, but I wonder. There's the following record of Martin: LEBLEU, Martin - natural children with Josette LAMIRANDE: Arsene; Baptiste; Martin; Catherine m. Charles SALLIER. He states that he never married. Will dated 21 Feb. 1817 (LSAR: Opel:1817) Josette is also called (in other records) Marie Josephe. Then, there's the following: LEBLEU, Hipollite (Bartholome & Marie Josephe DE LA MIRANDE) bt. 11 Oct. 1780 at age 2 mths. Spons: Joseph ROMAN & Louise FONTENEAU. Fr. L.M. GRUMEAU (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.39) Hypolite's father is called Bartholome. The mother appears to be the same...? (Incidentally, although Hypolite is usually a man's name, this one appears to be a woman: BENOIT, Sebastien - widower of Carcachou [Calcasieu] River m. 20 Aug. 1800 Hipolite LEBLEU - of Calcasieu River (Barthelemy & Marie Josephe LAMIRANDE) Wits: Charles EBERE [HEBERT], Joseph CANPOS, PHAVRON. Fr. Pedro de ZAMORA (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.90) Note that the father is still Barthelemy, not Martin.) Can anyone clear this up? Thanks, Gordon

Gordon, I never saw an answer to your question, so I took a look for you. I think the following entries prove that Martin Camersac LEBLEU & Bartolome LEBLEU are the same person. To be 100% sure, I think you would have to read Martin COMERSAC LEBLEU's will at the LSAR or perhaps someone else could provide more proof. 1 -- On 26 Oct 1769, Barthelmy LEBLEUX married Marie Josephe De LA MIRANDE. "De LA MIRANDE, Marie Josephe (Joseph De LA MIRANDE & Hypolite [omitted]) native of Kaskaskia, Illinois, Parish of Immaculate Conception, married 16 October 1769 Barthelmy LEBLEUX (Louis LEBLEUX & Marie GENTILS, both deceased) of Arkansas. [both residents at the Opelousas, went to Pointe Coupee to have the nuptual benediction since there was no priest at Opelousas.] Witnesses who signed: Josephe De La MIRNADE, fils (Jr), Marie CHAUVIN, COURTABLEAU, BARON, fils (Jr). Fr. IRENNE, Cap(uchin)." (DBR Vol. 1b, Pages 51 & 104 (PCP-4, 47 also PCP-2, 83)) 2 -- On 30 Oct 1789, Arsene LEBLEU the son of Bartholomew BLEUVE & Marie Josephe LA MIRANDE is baptized. "LEBLEU, Arsene (Bartholomew BLEUVE & Marie Josephe LA MIRANDE) bt. 30 Oct. 1789 - supplied ceremony for baptism which was previously performed at home. Spons: Joseph TESIER & Hipolitte BARTHOLOMEW. Fr. Pedro de ZAMORA, Capuchin priest." (Opel Ch Vol. 1A, Page 94) 3 -- On 22 Jun 1816, The baptism of Arsene's son, Martin LEBLEU, lists the paternal grandparents as Martin CAMARSAC & Jospehe LAMIRANDE. "LEBLEU, Martin (Celeste ANDRES & according to what they declared to me - Arsene LEBLEU, of this parish) b. 1 Dec. 1815, bt. 22 June 1816 Pats: Martin CAMARSAC - from around Bordeaux in France & Josephe LAMIRANDE; Mats: Benjamin ANDRES - of Atakapas & Marthe HAYSE - from Natches, inhabiting "La Riviere Carcoussion" [Calcasieu River]; Spons: Martin LEBLEU & Sarah ANDRES. Fr. Michel Bernard BARRIERE." (Opel Ch Vol. 2, Page 80) 4 -- On 21 Feb 1817, Martin LEBLEU COMERSAC's will was probated (He had actually died in 1797.) "LEBLEU, Arsene (Martin & Josette LAMIRANDE) In will of Martin COMERSAC dated 21 Feb. 1817 (LSAR: Opel.:1817)" "LEBLEU, Martin - natural children with Josette LAMIRANDE: Arsene; Baptiste; Martin; Catherine m. Charles SALLIER. He states that he never married. Will dated 21 Feb. 1817 (LSAR: Opel.:1817) Cheers, Gary Darnsteadt -----Original Message----- From: acadian-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:acadian-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gordon Bonnet Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 3:12 AM To: acadian@rootsweb.com Subject: [ACADIAN] LeBleu confusion? Hi all, Are Martin Camersac dit LeBleu and Bartolome LeBleu the same person? It appears that a lot of people think so, but I wonder. There's the following record of Martin: LEBLEU, Martin - natural children with Josette LAMIRANDE: Arsene; Baptiste; Martin; Catherine m. Charles SALLIER. He states that he never married. Will dated 21 Feb. 1817 (LSAR: Opel:1817) Josette is also called (in other records) Marie Josephe. Then, there's the following: LEBLEU, Hipollite (Bartholome & Marie Josephe DE LA MIRANDE) bt. 11 Oct. 1780 at age 2 mths. Spons: Joseph ROMAN & Louise FONTENEAU. Fr. L.M. GRUMEAU (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.39) Hypolite's father is called Bartholome. The mother appears to be the same...? (Incidentally, although Hypolite is usually a man's name, this one appears to be a woman: BENOIT, Sebastien - widower of Carcachou [Calcasieu] River m. 20 Aug. 1800 Hipolite LEBLEU - of Calcasieu River (Barthelemy & Marie Josephe LAMIRANDE) Wits: Charles EBERE [HEBERT], Joseph CANPOS, PHAVRON. Fr. Pedro de ZAMORA (Opel. Ch.: v.1-A, p.90) Note that the father is still Barthelemy, not Martin.) Can anyone clear this up? Thanks, Gordon ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message