Guedry newsletter Info on 2019 reunion in NB & PEI How we got "title" to Merliguèche abt 1737 -----Original Message----- From: R. Martin Guidry <guidryrm@cox.net> To: R. Martin Guidry <guidryrmartin@gmail.com> Sent: Tue, Apr 11, 2017 7:29 pm Subject: Fwd: "Generations" - Spring 2017 Issue Bonjour cousins, The Spring 2017 Issue of "Generations" has just been completed. Our editorial team hopes that you enjoy the various articles in this issue. To view this issue of "Generations", please click on the link below and then click on "Spring 2017 Newsletter" in the center of the page. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~guedrylabinefamily/newsletters.html Merci, Martin -- Martin Guidry 6139 North Shore Drive Baton Rouge, LA 70817 225-571-9726 (cell) guidryrmartin@gmail.com Les Guédry et Petitpas d'Asteur, Inc. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guedrylabinefamily http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guidryrm/Guedry-Labine http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guidryrm/clotiaux http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~guidryrm/butaud
And that is where the problem starts. Most of the records of the German Coast were lost when the pastor's residence for the Little Red Church burned down in 1788. Most of the info we can get comes from militia census and later court records. ________________________________ From: Gordon Bonnet <jaggy227@fltg.net> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 2:27 PM To: Acadian Cc: Cecil Van Duzee Subject: Re: Pontife: new idea That’s a possibility I never even considered! I wonder if there are any Charles Bischofs of the right age? cheers, g > On Apr 10, 2017, at 1:06 PM, Cecil Van Duzee via ACADIAN <acadian@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Let's try a new idea ---- direct name translation. Pontif means Bishop. We are at the German Coast so we want Bischof. > > > C > > > . > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
It was a family name!!!!! J Hanno Deiler, The Settlement of the German Coast p 65 St john the baptiste church register first entry (1772) ... Anton Manz (Now Montz) .....married Sibylla Bischof d/on Joseph Bischof & Anna Maria Raeser ================================== Conrard First Families of Louisiana v 2 In the General Roll of Louisiana Troops 1720-1770 P 224 Pontif or Pontis, Francois ----- Handed over to the land forces, 1760. See the letter of Berryer to M. Hocquart at Brest dated Oct 31 1760 What the h*ll does this mean? Most entries are killed or discharge dates etc. I wonder if he changed his name after separation -----Original Message----- From: Cecil Van Duzee <cvanduzee@msn.com> And that is where the problem starts. Most of the records of the German Coast were lost when the pastor's residence for the Little Red Church burned down in 1788. Most of the info we can get comes from militia census and later court records.
Let's try a new idea ---- direct name translation. Pontif means Bishop. We are at the German Coast so we want Bischof. C
That’s a possibility I never even considered! I wonder if there are any Charles Bischofs of the right age? cheers, g > On Apr 10, 2017, at 1:06 PM, Cecil Van Duzee via ACADIAN <acadian@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Let's try a new idea ---- direct name translation. Pontif means Bishop. We are at the German Coast so we want Bischof. > > > C > > > . > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Modified Register for Joseph Etienne Boudreaux First Generation 1. Joseph Etienne Boudreaux was born on 12 Jan 1870 in Montegut, La.. He was christened on 3 Apr 1870 in Montegut, La.. CH:MONT 1-69 SLR-4/98 M:HOUMA C/H 24-127 SLR-8/73,172 M:MONT CH 4-105 SLR-8/73,172 CH:LA/844 FHC/SLC Joseph married Marie Justilia Rosina Dubois daughter of Gabriel Dubois and Suzanne Neal on 2 Jun 1890 in Montegut, La.. Marie was born on 31 Aug 1869 in Montegut, La.. She was christened on 31 Aug 1869 in Montegut, La.. CH:MONT 1-59 SLR-4/225 M:HOUMA C/H 24-127 SLR-8/73,172 M:MONT CH 4-105 SLR-8/73,172 Joseph and Marie had the following children: 2 M i. Joseph Leon Boudreaux was born on 23 Nov 1892 in Montegut, La.. He was christened on 23 Nov 1892 in Montegut, La.. CH:MONT 5-82 SLR-9/74 3 M ii. Louis Vincent Boudreaux was born on 28 Feb 1897 in Montegut, La.. He was christened on 28 Feb 1897 in Montegut, La.. He died on 4 Feb 1962 in Chauvin, La.. M:(NO DATE) ROOTSWEB CH:MONT 6-52 SLR-10/78 M:HOUMA C/H 52-530 SLVR-5/31,144 D:DTLP Louis married Loretta Agladie Lirette daughter of Francois Isaac Lirette and Marie Julienne Corinne Leblanc on 15 Nov 1919 in Montegut, La.. Loretta was born on 14 Feb 1899 in Montegut, La.. She was christened on 14 Feb 1899 in Montegut, La.. She died on 11 Jan 1979 in Chauvin, La.. CH: M:(NO DATE) D:ROOTSWEB CH:MONT 6-87 SLR-10/347 M:HOUMA C/H 52-530 SLVR-5/31,144 D:DTLP 4 M iii. Laurent Joseph Boudreaux was born on 9 Aug 1899 in Montegut, La.. He was christened on 9 Aug 1899 in Montegut, La.. He died before 1986. CH:MONT 6-92 SLR-10/77 M:SLVR-6/28,151 Laurent married Ernestine Navarre daughter of Ernest Joseph Navarre and Eliza Marie Duplantis on 24 Aug 1922 in Bourg, La.. Ernestine was born after 1903. She died on 14 Jun 1968 in Houma, La.. CH:NOT IN SLVR-1,2,3,4,5 M:SLVR-6/28,151 D:DTLP (NO BIRTH YEAR GIVEN) 5 F iv. Stella Marie Boudreaux was born on 4 Feb 1902 in Montegut, La.. She was christened on 4 Feb 1902 in Montegut, La.. She died on 1 Jan 1977 in Houma, La.. CH:MONT 7-37 SLR-11/56 M:SLVR-8/30,181 D;DTLP Stella married Caliste Paul Theriot son of Gilbert Joseph Theriot and Josephine Marie Leboeuf on 16 Oct 1927 in Houma, La.. Caliste was born on 14 Aug 1903 in Houma, La.. He was christened on 14 Aug 1903 in Houma, La.. CH:SLR-11/484 M:SLVR-8/30,181 6 M v. Robert Joseph Boudreaux was born on 10 Aug 1904 in Montegut, La.. He was christened on 10 Aug 1904 in Montegut, La.. He died on 2 Jan 1986 in Houma, La.. CH: M: D:ROOTSWEB CH:MONT 7-89 SLR-12/13 Robert married Louisiana Marie Crochet daughter of Norbert Joseph Crochet and Anastasie Authement after 1950. Louisiana was born on 6 Aug 1894 in Houma, La.. She was christened on 6 Aug 1894 in Houma, La.. CH: M1: M2:ROOTSWEB CH:SLR-9/157 M1:SLVR-3/70,210
What Don had - check it out if any problems let us know =========================================== Ahnentafel Chart for Louis Vincent Boudreaux First Generation 1. Louis Vincent Boudreaux was born on 28 Feb 1897 in Montegut, La.. He was christened on 28 Feb 1897 in Montegut, La.. He died on 4 Feb 1962 in Chauvin, La.. M:(NO DATE) ROOTSWEB CH:MONT 6-52 SLR-10/78 M:HOUMA C/H 52-530 SLVR-5/31,144 D:DTLP Louis married Loretta Agladie Lirette daughter of Francois Isaac Lirette and Marie Julienne Corinne Leblanc on 15 Nov 1919 in Montegut, La.. Loretta was born on 14 Feb 1899 in Montegut, La.. She was christened on 14 Feb 1899 in Montegut, La.. She died on 11 Jan 1979 in Chauvin, La.. Second Generation 2. Joseph Etienne Boudreaux was born on 12 Jan 1870 in Montegut, La.. He was christened on 3 Apr 1870 in Montegut, La.. He married Marie Justilia Rosina Dubois on 2 Jun 1890 in Montegut, La.. CH:MONT 1-69 SLR-4/98 M:HOUMA C/H 24-127 SLR-8/73,172 M:MONT CH 4-105 SLR-8/73,172 CH:LA/844 FHC/SLC 3. Marie Justilia Rosina Dubois was born on 31 Aug 1869 in Montegut, La.. She was christened on 31 Aug 1869 in Montegut, La.. CH:MONT 1-59 SLR-4/225 M:HOUMA C/H 24-127 SLR-8/73,172 M:MONT CH 4-105 SLR-8/73,172 Third Generation 4. Forestall Pierre Paul Boudreaux was born on 7 Mar 1847 in Houma, La.. He was christened on 19 Feb 1849 in Houma, La.. He married Artemise Alexina Bourg on 23 Apr 1866 in Montegut, La.. CH:HOUMA 1-8 SLR-2/67 M:HOUMA C/H 6-289 1/2 SLR-4/96,106 M:MONT CH 1-32 SLR-4/96,106 CH:(SAYS 1846) M:LA/835 FHC/SLC CH:LA/865 FHC/SLC 5. Artemise Alexina Bourg was born on 13 Nov 1848 in Houma, La.. She was christened on 13 Nov 1848 in Houma, La.. CH:HOUMA 1-8 SLR-2/69 M:HOUMA C/H 6-289 1/2 SLR-4/96,106 M:MONT CH 1-32 SLR-4/96,106 M:LA/835 FHC/SLC 6. Gabriel Dubois .Gabriel married Suzanne Neal before 1869. S/O UNKNOWN M: NOT IN SLR-1,2,3,4, BRDA-10,11 7. Suzanne Neal . D/O UNKNOWN M: NOT IN SLR-1,2,3,4, BRDA-10,11 -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Bonnet <jaggy227@fltg.net> I’m looking for a marriage record (or parents’ names) for Marie Boudreaux, probably b. ca. 1870 in or near Houma, who married Joseph Boudreaux, son of Pierre Paul Faustin and Arthemise Alexina (Bourg) Boudreaux. I know of one child, Louis Vincent Boudreaux, born in Montegut on 28 February 1897. Any help appreciated! cheers, Gordon
I’m looking for a marriage record (or parents’ names) for Marie Boudreaux, probably b. ca. 1870 in or near Houma, who married Joseph Boudreaux, son of Pierre Paul Faustin and Arthemise Alexina (Bourg) Boudreaux. I know of one child, Louis Vincent Boudreaux, born in Montegut on 28 February 1897. Any help appreciated! cheers, Gordon
Marie Justilia Rosina Dubois (Gabriel & Susanne Nede) 31 Aug 1869. (Montegut Ch: v.1, p. 59 Marie (Gabriel & Susanna Neal) m. 2 June 1890 Joseph Boudreaux (Montegut Ch: v. 4, p. 105 21 May 1890 Houma Ct. Hse: Mar. v. 24, #127 -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Bonnet via ACADIAN Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 4:55 PM To: Acadian Cc: Gordon Bonnet ; Paul L LeBlanc Subject: Dubois, Marie m. Joseph Boudreaux I’m looking for a marriage record (or parents’ names) for Marie Boudreaux, probably b. ca. 1870 in or near Houma, who married Joseph Boudreaux, son of Pierre Paul Faustin and Arthemise Alexina (Bourg) Boudreaux. I know of one child, Louis Vincent Boudreaux, born in Montegut on 28 February 1897. Any help appreciated! cheers, Gordon . ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
-----Original Message----- From: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> I found this on World connect. Who knows? I would love to get others' input =========================== http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=wesleyhclark&id=I2030 Genealogy of Wesley Harry Clark Entries: 4601 Updated: 2015-06-09 18:49:02 UTC (Tue) Contact: Wesley H. Clark Index | Descendancy | Register | Pedigree | Ahnentafel | Download GEDCOM | Add Post-em ID: I2030 Name: Nicholas Lavigne Surname: Lavigne Given Name: Nicholas Sex: M Birth: ABT 1684 in St. Denis, Paris, France Death: 1750 in Port Toulouse, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada _UID: 02D08687FE8AF242B4B6CBEDB9C4166FBFE3 Note: The Early Lavignes From Bob Aubie (baubie@cogeco.ca) The Aubie history begins with the name La Vigne in the country of France sometime in the early 1600's. The La Vigne family were adventurous in nature and Claude La Vigne was about to help give rise to a new nation far across the ocean in the newly discovered French territories. Claude was born in St. Denis, Seine, France just north of Paris about 1660. He married Franciose Le Dour- Ledorez. The couple had a son, Nicholas born about 1684 (See Port Toulouse Census 1752... Nicholas is listed at age 68) in St. Denis. Nicholas decided to cross the Atlantic and settle in France's newest outpost in Louisberg. He eventually moved to Port Royal about 1710.and took up farming in the nearby countryside. He met and married one Marie Doucet on March 4, 1714 and eventually took his new bride to settle in Port Toulouse on Isle Royal (Cape Breton Island) (Port Royal Census 1714-15) The 1724 Census of Port Toulouse (Port Toulouse.com) lists a Nicholas and his wife, Madeline Doucet with one child. If that is the case, Nicholas and Madeline must have come to the colony in 1716 or so. The La Vignes are listed among the early settlers of Port Toulouse. The census of 1724 shows a Nicholas La Vigne from St. Denis who was married to a Marie Doucet on March 4, 1715 in Port Royal. Birth certificates from 1715 show the birth of a Joseph La Vigne in Port Royal. He died young and Nicholas and Madeline had two or three other children. This must be the correct Nicholas because marriage records from Port Royal list Claude La Vigne and Francoise Le Dour-Ledorez as his parents. Unnoffical records show the Madeline and Nicholas had four children, Joseph, Charles, Jean and Michel. If we move to the 1752 census of Port Toulouse on Cape Breton Island we see Nicholas, aged 68 and his second wife, Anne Clemenceau, along with their six children. He was married to Anne in 1732 if records are correct. Their eldest child. Anne born in 1733 would seem to support this. The other children listed are: Marguerite 1737, Nicholas 1738, Madeline 1741, Barbe 1745 and Genevive 1750. No mention is made of the Names of Madeline and Nicholas' children whom I believe to be Charles (1717), Joseph who died young, Michel and Jean who was born in 1722 or so. There is indeed a Charles La Vigne living in Port Toulouse in 1752. He is listed as aged 34 making his birth year 1717. This would coincide with the age of Nicholas' eldest child He is a native of Port Royal and his wife is Madeline Petitpas. She too is 34. The children are Anne, aged 9 years, Charles, Cecile, Benoist and Joseph aged 9 months. The La Vignes were forced or probably driven out of Port Toulouse to the north when the British regained power over Acadia. The French and Indian War (England and the North American Colonies vs France) began in 1754 and the British Government insisted that the Acadians swear an oath of Allegiance to the British Monarch. Many refused to do so with the result that over 10,000 Acadians were imprisoned or sent to France. When the war was over in 1764 many returned to Acadia but were not allowed to settle in great numbers. Main settlement areas were along the Bay of Chaleur in Northern New Brunswick but many spread throughout North America from Louisana to Quebec where their descendants remain to this day. During one of the many expulsions of Acadians, Nicholas' second wife Marie Clemenceau, was drowned while returning to France. This was about 1755 and I presume Nicholas should have gone with his wife or taken her with him wherever he went. Perhaps we can assume Nicholas may have died or was killed or expelled by the English. He would have been 70 at that time. So we are left with the whereabouts of Charles (1717) and Jean (1722). With the expulsions of the Acadians in 1755 they must have moved somewhere. I found a record of our Charles Lavigne's second marriage to Anne Lafarge on February 12, 1760 in St-Louis, Aunis, France so I know he moved there after the expulsion of the Acadians around 1758 or so and died there. His second wife, Anne, died in France in 1823. The Acadians from Port Royal and Port Toulouse were expelled to France aboard many ships but a great number fled up the Saint John River in New Brunswick or around the coast into the Bay of Chaleur in the Bathurst area. I believe Jean may have been one of these refugees. Church records from 1831 in the Bathurst area do show a Jean Batiste Lavigne living there. Jean Baptiste is undoubtedly the son of Nicholas and Madeline Doucet and unofficial records show that he married Isabelle Beaudry about 1769 in Bathurst. Records also indicate this same Jean Baptiste was a farmer in the Bathurst area and lived until the ripe old age of 100 and died in 1822. This death is indicated in official church records. There is a time gap between the birth of Jean and Jean Baptiste of some 56 years and although great this is not totally unusual. Over 40 unofficial Roots Web and Family Search entries state that Nicholas and Madeline Doucet were the parents of Jean who married Elizabeth Beaudry! and until I find otherwise that's my story and I'm sticking to it. From this point on we have definite records to show that Jean Baptiste and Isabelle's son, Jean Baptiste, (born 1778) married Modeste Hache-Gallant (born 1778) sometime about 1798 in Bathurst. It seems that twelve children were born to the couple between 1800 and 1822. Church and government records from 1831 show that Jean Baptiste was a farmer and listed his six eldest children as wage earners but no occupations appear for them. The sixth born child of Jean Baptiste and Modeste was named Jean Baptiste after his father and he married Lucie Bertin in Bathurst about 1829. He too is listed as a farmer but only has five children according to the Church records of 1838; Marie, Joseph, John, Edward and Valens. In the archival records of 1841 we do not see the eldest child, Marie, so it can be presumed that she may have died. What we do see, however, is that Jean Baptiste is recorded as deceased and that Pierre Aubut from Quebec is listed as the new husband of the 30 year old Lucie Bertin. It is evident than that the children may have been referred to as the children of Lucie Bertin and Pierre Aubut. People in the Bathurst area quickly referred to Pierre Aubut as Pierre Aubie This situation brought about a change in the names of the Lavigne children and they probably were referred to as Aubie-Lavignes. When the exact date of the change to Aubie for this line of the family took place is not clear and indeed until the 1900's both Lavigne and Aube-Lavigne was still commonplace. Joseph, John, Edward and Valens, Lucie's four sons, gave rise to four traceable lines of the Aubie family but, indeed, some may even be Lavignes to this day. We are able to find Aubies, Aubes, and perhaps even Lavignes from the four Lavigne children. The North Bay line descends from John-Aubie Lavigne who was born in 1836 and married Marie Melanson (1841) in the year 1861 in Bathurst. The census of 1881 lists John and Mary and their children, Agnes 1866, Mary Ann 1868, Elizabeth 1869, Annie 1871, Jerome 1875, Alphonse 1877 and Thomas 1880. This Thomas is our ancestor. The census records of 1891 do not show John's wife Mary Melanson so we can presume she passed away . Census records from 1891 show the name seems to be Aubie-Lavigne for all four brothers but the 1911 census of Bathurst shows, Thomas Aubie married to Gertie Roy - my grandparents. Thomas is working in the lumber industry and they seemed to live on St. Andrews Street in Bathurst. If we proceed with this confusing name path we see that my father, Thomas Martin, is registered as Thomas Martin Lavigne on his baptismal certificate of 1904 in the Church Archives and not Thomas Martin Aubie as his birth certificate, his social insurance number and his passport all claim. Confusing, right? The change seems to have been made between 1904 and 1911 for this branch of the Lavigne family and my father simply said it was because there were too many Lavignes in Bathurst. He claimed that Lavignes were marrying Lavignes and it was simply too confusing when second and third cousins married. My father caused quite a family scandal when he married an English woman, Laura Anningson from Campbellton in 1928. Unfortunately we were raised as English children and lost our French tongue with my generation. Thomas Martin Aubie and Laura Jenetta Anningson had four children; John Martin Aube 1928, Pearl Elizabeth 1933-2005, Robert Harold (me) 1941 and Margaret Judith 1949. Strangely enough my birth is registered as Aubie (the spelling my father used) and the others are registered as Aube because they were baptised by a French Priest in Bathurst. Change Date: 1 Mar 2007 at 13:36:23 Father: Claude Lavigne b: ABT 1660 in St. Denis, Paris, France Mother: Francoise LeDour Marriage 1 Marie Anne Clemenceau b: 1708 in Port Royal, Nova Scotia, Canada Married: 1732 in Port Toulouse, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada Children Has Children Marguerite Lavigne b: 1737 in Port Toulouse, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada
Sorry hotmail is now rejecting mail from me so here is your answer to the list -----Original Message----- From: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> I will look at the parents question next. The last census with him is 1693 But he is alive after the death of his daughter in 1731 Modified Register for (2) JACQUES LE BLANC First Generation 1. (2) JACQUES LE BLANC[1,2,3] was born about 1651 in Port-Royal, Acadia. He died after 26 May 1731 in Grand Pre, Acadia. Location: 1671 Port-Royal 20a 1686 Port-Royal 35a 1693 Les Mines 42a . Jacques and 3 of his brothers settled in Gran Pre, in 1686. In 1693, he was living at Rivere De Habitants, a suburb of Gran Pre, Acadia, Canada. He was living at the time of his daughter's death on 26 May 1731. Research_of_Don_Boudreaux: 68. Jacques Leblanc Sr. was born about 1651 in Port Royal, Canada. He died about 1693 in Grand Pre, Canada. He married Catherine Hebert about 1673. S/O DANIEL/FRANCOISE GAUDET CH: M: D:DGFA/983,985 M:DGFA/799 CH: M:LCSHA/152 CH: M:ARS/1216 JACQUES married[1,2,3] (1c) CATHERINE HEBERT[1,2,3], daughter of (1) ANTOINE HEBERT Anthyme and GENEVIEVE LEFRANC, about 1673 in Grand Pre, Acadia. CATHERINE was born about 1656. She died in Grand Pre, Acadia. Research_of_Don_Boudreaux: 69. Catherine Hebert was born about 1656 in Port Royal, Canada. D/O ANTOINE/GENEVIEVE LEFRANC CH: M:DGFA/799 M:DGFA/983,985 M:LCSHA/152 CH: M:ARS/600 Appendix A - Sources 1. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes 1636-1714 v2, p 983-985 LeBlanc Daniel (1). 2. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 985-987 LeBlanc Jacques (2). 3. Stephen A White, DGFA v2, p 798-799 Hebert Antoine (1). -----Original Message----- From: . Hi Paul, I was checking the death date for Jacques Leblanc and someone had given me 26 May 1731, St-Charles-des-Mines, Nova Scotia, Canada. So, i can change this to 1693? I've been trying to send you a variety of information to help confirm some of what other's had passed on to me, probably errors. I needed some help to close up a few loose ends. Would this be ok to do if i sent some random stuff from time to time? I was getting pretty frustrated with a cousin who wanted me to delete the parents of Jean Lavigne, being (Nicolas Lavigne & Marie Anne Clemenceau), plus all ties leading to Jean Roy & Marie Christine Aubois. She's been forever wanting me to just delete these ancestors totally. She says they are not my ancestors. So, she claims Steve White can confirm this, so delete Jean Lavigne's parents and i have no native ties to Jean Roy and Aubois. Hope all is well with you. Thanks, CM
Now you will, good luck, Dennis -----Original Message----- From: karen lynn obrien via ACADIAN <acadian@rootsweb.com> To: Acadian <acadian@rootsweb.com> Cc: karen lynn obrien <gtoklo38@gmail.com> Sent: Sat, Apr 8, 2017 10:31 pm Subject: Re: D'Amours and Pelletier Thanks for the help as I sure wasn't going anywhere. . ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
And that is surely Helene, his wife. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Paul L LeBlanc <pleblan@aim.com> To: acadian <acadian@rootsweb.com> Cc: gtoklo38 <gtoklo38@gmail.com>; madelinot22 <madelinot22@aol.com> Sent: Sat, Apr 8, 2017 8:43 pm Subject: Re: D'Amours and Pelletier A canidate Helene Pelletier New Brunswick, Provincial Returns of Births and Late Registrations Name Helene Pelletier Event Date 25 Sep 1892 Event Type Birth Event Place St Basil, Madawaska, New Brunswick Gender Female Father's Name Romuald Pelletier Mother's Name Olive Lee https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTSK-S5H -----Original Message----- From: Paul L LeBlanc via ACADIAN <acadian@rootsweb.com> a canidate for Firmin - image on the way Firmin Eusibe Courberon in the Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968 Name: Firmin Eusibe Courberon [Fermin Eusibe Courberon] Event: Baptême (Baptism) Baptism Year: 1885 Baptism Location: Cacouna, Québec (Quebec) -----Original Message----- From: madelinot22--- The correct surnames for this search would be Firmin D'Amours dit Courberon and Helene Pelletier. I found their son Claude's marriage at St-Michel de Bellechasse, QC 6 Sep 1952 to Louise LAROCHELLE, daughter of Emile and Juliette Coulombe. Claude's parents were listed as living in Quebec City, and more specifically, St-Coeur de Marie parish (which has since closed). There is a marriage repertoire for that church, compiled by Sylvie Tremblay, along with those of St-Dominique Ch., Quebec City; St-Charles Garnier Ch. of Sillery; St-Jean-Baptiste de la Salle Ch. and Ste-Genevieve Ch, both in Ste-Foy, QC. I have used the book but do not own a copy of it. I tried to do a search via the Internet and could not find their marriage in Quebec, nor at the Provincial Archives of New Brunswick site. Perhaps someone with Ancestry can find it as I don't have a subscription. Here are links to two or more trees with some information: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=acadianroy&id=I8795 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=acadianroy&id=I8719 You can find two others at Rootsweb.com by clicking on the Family Trees box in top menu. Enter Pelletier + Helene in the boxes, and when they all pop-up, go to bottom boxes and to spouse, and type: Firmin (no surname). Four trees will appear in the search results, but take all these with a grain of salt. One tree at Rootsweb has their marriage listed at Edmundston, NB on 20 Apr 1920, but in the absence of that record, do not know how accurate it is. Those trees at Rootsweb family search also list different parents for Firmin; in one, it gives Alphonse and Philomene (Hudon) D'Amours; in another, Alphonse and Albertine (Ouellet) D'Amours. He was allegedly born at Riviere-du-Loup (Kamouraska), QC [St-Patrice parish], and baptized there on 19 Dec 1885 (or thereabouts). Family search website does not bring that parish's registers up to that year, stopping at 1880, so there's no way of my checking who his real parents are. Perhaps someone with a subscription to Ancestry can locate the record for you. One tree says he died on 18 Dec 1971, probably in Quebec City, but no place is given, so how does one really know? One tree also says he was previously married to a Corinne Belanger. I have not found any record to substantiate this. As for Helene, she was the daughter of Romuald and Olive (Lee) Pelletier of St. Basile, NB. Helene was supposedly born there on 25 Sep 1892; and died on 6 Jun 1936 (don't know where, could be Quebec City??). One tree also says she married a Raoul Belanger at St-Basile, NB in 1912. I could not find that marriage at the Provincial Archives of New Brunswick either, so don't know how true it is; but I did find a daughter of theirs, Marie-Aline Belanger born at Edmunston, NB on 25 Aug 1913. Their marriage is probably listed in the series of marriages of Madawaska County, but I do not have a copy of that set of books to check the marriage of her parents and their parentage. One of the things I detest about people throwing things on Rootsweb is that they never list places or sources. At least with a place, one can usually find alternative material or sites to check the information given. Without a place, Quebec and New Brunswick are quite vast areas to research, so let this be a lesson to everyone placing questions on message boards or adding trees to any databases.... please, please, please, list a place with your d/m/y data. It helps people zero in on information without taking up a ton of time and effort on the part of researchers trying to help find an answer for you. Am sure anyone with an Ancestry subscription can be of more help. For what this is all worth... at least it's a path to finding your data. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: karen lynn obrien via ACADIAN <acadian@rootsweb.com> Have any of you ever researched the name Combrun dit D'Amone? I have a second cousin that married Firmin Combrun dit d'Amone but there is nothing further on either him or Helen Pelletier that died 1936, possibly Quebec or New Brunswick. . ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Correction: That should have been 19 December 1885, (NOT 18 Dec 1884), sorry. Rest of his baptism ceremony was supplied on 22 December in Cacouna, QC. And by the way, his uncle Firmin Courberon dit D'Amours was his godfather; Divine (surely short for Ludivine) Lacombe was his godmother. Congrats, Paul! That has to be him as the facts all match. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: madelinot22--- via ACADIAN <acadian@rootsweb.com> To: acadian <acadian@rootsweb.com> Cc: madelinot22 <madelinot22@aol.com> Sent: Sat, Apr 8, 2017 8:38 pm Subject: Courberon dit D'Amours As I just told Paul, except for the swap of Hudon for Saindon as this Firmin's mother's maiden name (Hudon being a transcriptional error for Saindon, her true maiden name), this is undoubtedly the person you want: Firmin-Eusebe Courberon dit D'Amours, born at St-Georges de Cacouna on 18 Dec 1884, and baptized by necessity at home. He was named after his uncle, Firmin Courberon, brother of his father Alphonse. Check out the following ascending generations of the family: 1) http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogie=Courberon_Alphonse&pid=1037869&lng=fr 2) http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogie=Francois_D'Amours&pid=739833&lng=fr&partID=739832 3) http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogie=Jean-Francois_D'Amours&pid=739834&lng=fr&partID=739835 I believe Paul found the correct man who would later marry Helene Pelletier. Dennis . ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
A canidate Helene Pelletier New Brunswick, Provincial Returns of Births and Late Registrations Name Helene Pelletier Event Date 25 Sep 1892 Event Type Birth Event Place St Basil, Madawaska, New Brunswick Gender Female Father's Name Romuald Pelletier Mother's Name Olive Lee https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTSK-S5H -----Original Message----- From: Paul L LeBlanc via ACADIAN <acadian@rootsweb.com> a canidate for Firmin - image on the way Firmin Eusibe Courberon in the Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968 Name: Firmin Eusibe Courberon [Fermin Eusibe Courberon] Event: Baptême (Baptism) Baptism Year: 1885 Baptism Location: Cacouna, Québec (Quebec) -----Original Message----- From: madelinot22--- The correct surnames for this search would be Firmin D'Amours dit Courberon and Helene Pelletier. I found their son Claude's marriage at St-Michel de Bellechasse, QC 6 Sep 1952 to Louise LAROCHELLE, daughter of Emile and Juliette Coulombe. Claude's parents were listed as living in Quebec City, and more specifically, St-Coeur de Marie parish (which has since closed). There is a marriage repertoire for that church, compiled by Sylvie Tremblay, along with those of St-Dominique Ch., Quebec City; St-Charles Garnier Ch. of Sillery; St-Jean-Baptiste de la Salle Ch. and Ste-Genevieve Ch, both in Ste-Foy, QC. I have used the book but do not own a copy of it. I tried to do a search via the Internet and could not find their marriage in Quebec, nor at the Provincial Archives of New Brunswick site. Perhaps someone with Ancestry can find it as I don't have a subscription. Here are links to two or more trees with some information: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=acadianroy&id=I8795 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=acadianroy&id=I8719 You can find two others at Rootsweb.com by clicking on the Family Trees box in top menu. Enter Pelletier + Helene in the boxes, and when they all pop-up, go to bottom boxes and to spouse, and type: Firmin (no surname). Four trees will appear in the search results, but take all these with a grain of salt. One tree at Rootsweb has their marriage listed at Edmundston, NB on 20 Apr 1920, but in the absence of that record, do not know how accurate it is. Those trees at Rootsweb family search also list different parents for Firmin; in one, it gives Alphonse and Philomene (Hudon) D'Amours; in another, Alphonse and Albertine (Ouellet) D'Amours. He was allegedly born at Riviere-du-Loup (Kamouraska), QC [St-Patrice parish], and baptized there on 19 Dec 1885 (or thereabouts). Family search website does not bring that parish's registers up to that year, stopping at 1880, so there's no way of my checking who his real parents are. Perhaps someone with a subscription to Ancestry can locate the record for you. One tree says he died on 18 Dec 1971, probably in Quebec City, but no place is given, so how does one really know? One tree also says he was previously married to a Corinne Belanger. I have not found any record to substantiate this. As for Helene, she was the daughter of Romuald and Olive (Lee) Pelletier of St. Basile, NB. Helene was supposedly born there on 25 Sep 1892; and died on 6 Jun 1936 (don't know where, could be Quebec City??). One tree also says she married a Raoul Belanger at St-Basile, NB in 1912. I could not find that marriage at the Provincial Archives of New Brunswick either, so don't know how true it is; but I did find a daughter of theirs, Marie-Aline Belanger born at Edmunston, NB on 25 Aug 1913. Their marriage is probably listed in the series of marriages of Madawaska County, but I do not have a copy of that set of books to check the marriage of her parents and their parentage. One of the things I detest about people throwing things on Rootsweb is that they never list places or sources. At least with a place, one can usually find alternative material or sites to check the information given. Without a place, Quebec and New Brunswick are quite vast areas to research, so let this be a lesson to everyone placing questions on message boards or adding trees to any databases.... please, please, please, list a place with your d/m/y data. It helps people zero in on information without taking up a ton of time and effort on the part of researchers trying to help find an answer for you. Am sure anyone with an Ancestry subscription can be of more help. For what this is all worth... at least it's a path to finding your data. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: karen lynn obrien via ACADIAN <acadian@rootsweb.com> Have any of you ever researched the name Combrun dit D'Amone? I have a second cousin that married Firmin Combrun dit d'Amone but there is nothing further on either him or Helen Pelletier that died 1936, possibly Quebec or New Brunswick. . ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
As I just told Paul, except for the swap of Hudon for Saindon as this Firmin's mother's maiden name (Hudon being a transcriptional error for Saindon, her true maiden name), this is undoubtedly the person you want: Firmin-Eusebe Courberon dit D'Amours, born at St-Georges de Cacouna on 18 Dec 1884, and baptized by necessity at home. He was named after his uncle, Firmin Courberon, brother of his father Alphonse. Check out the following ascending generations of the family: 1) http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogie=Courberon_Alphonse&pid=1037869&lng=fr 2) http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogie=Francois_D'Amours&pid=739833&lng=fr&partID=739832 3) http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogie=Jean-Francois_D'Amours&pid=739834&lng=fr&partID=739835 I believe Paul found the correct man who would later marry Helene Pelletier. Dennis
Thanks for the help as I sure wasn't going anywhere.
a canidate for Firmin - image on the way Firmin Eusibe Courberon in the Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968 Name: Firmin Eusibe Courberon [Fermin Eusibe Courberon] Event: Baptême (Baptism) Baptism Year: 1885 Baptism Location: Cacouna, Québec (Quebec) -----Original Message----- From: madelinot22--- The correct surnames for this search would be Firmin D'Amours dit Courberon and Helene Pelletier. I found their son Claude's marriage at St-Michel de Bellechasse, QC 6 Sep 1952 to Louise LAROCHELLE, daughter of Emile and Juliette Coulombe. Claude's parents were listed as living in Quebec City, and more specifically, St-Coeur de Marie parish (which has since closed). There is a marriage repertoire for that church, compiled by Sylvie Tremblay, along with those of St-Dominique Ch., Quebec City; St-Charles Garnier Ch. of Sillery; St-Jean-Baptiste de la Salle Ch. and Ste-Genevieve Ch, both in Ste-Foy, QC. I have used the book but do not own a copy of it. I tried to do a search via the Internet and could not find their marriage in Quebec, nor at the Provincial Archives of New Brunswick site. Perhaps someone with Ancestry can find it as I don't have a subscription. Here are links to two or more trees with some information: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=acadianroy&id=I8795 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=acadianroy&id=I8719 You can find two others at Rootsweb.com by clicking on the Family Trees box in top menu. Enter Pelletier + Helene in the boxes, and when they all pop-up, go to bottom boxes and to spouse, and type: Firmin (no surname). Four trees will appear in the search results, but take all these with a grain of salt. One tree at Rootsweb has their marriage listed at Edmundston, NB on 20 Apr 1920, but in the absence of that record, do not know how accurate it is. Those trees at Rootsweb family search also list different parents for Firmin; in one, it gives Alphonse and Philomene (Hudon) D'Amours; in another, Alphonse and Albertine (Ouellet) D'Amours. He was allegedly born at Riviere-du-Loup (Kamouraska), QC [St-Patrice parish], and baptized there on 19 Dec 1885 (or thereabouts). Family search website does not bring that parish's registers up to that year, stopping at 1880, so there's no way of my checking who his real parents are. Perhaps someone with a subscription to Ancestry can locate the record for you. One tree says he died on 18 Dec 1971, probably in Quebec City, but no place is given, so how does one really know? One tree also says he was previously married to a Corinne Belanger. I have not found any record to substantiate this. As for Helene, she was the daughter of Romuald and Olive (Lee) Pelletier of St. Basile, NB. Helene was supposedly born there on 25 Sep 1892; and died on 6 Jun 1936 (don't know where, could be Quebec City??). One tree also says she married a Raoul Belanger at St-Basile, NB in 1912. I could not find that marriage at the Provincial Archives of New Brunswick either, so don't know how true it is; but I did find a daughter of theirs, Marie-Aline Belanger born at Edmunston, NB on 25 Aug 1913. Their marriage is probably listed in the series of marriages of Madawaska County, but I do not have a copy of that set of books to check the marriage of her parents and their parentage. One of the things I detest about people throwing things on Rootsweb is that they never list places or sources. At least with a place, one can usually find alternative material or sites to check the information given. Without a place, Quebec and New Brunswick are quite vast areas to research, so let this be a lesson to everyone placing questions on message boards or adding trees to any databases.... please, please, please, list a place with your d/m/y data. It helps people zero in on information without taking up a ton of time and effort on the part of researchers trying to help find an answer for you. Am sure anyone with an Ancestry subscription can be of more help. For what this is all worth... at least it's a path to finding your data. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: karen lynn obrien via ACADIAN <acadian@rootsweb.com> Have any of you ever researched the name Combrun dit D'Amone? I have a second cousin that married Firmin Combrun dit d'Amone but there is nothing further on either him or Helen Pelletier that died 1936, possibly Quebec or New Brunswick.
The correct surnames for this search would be Firmin D'Amours dit Courberon and Helene Pelletier. I found their son Claude's marriage at St-Michel de Bellechasse, QC 6 Sep 1952 to Louise LAROCHELLE, daughter of Emile and Juliette Coulombe. Claude's parents were listed as living in Quebec City, and more specifically, St-Coeur de Marie parish (which has since closed). There is a marriage repertoire for that church, compiled by Sylvie Tremblay, along with those of St-Dominique Ch., Quebec City; St-Charles Garnier Ch. of Sillery; St-Jean-Baptiste de la Salle Ch. and Ste-Genevieve Ch, both in Ste-Foy, QC. I have used the book but do not own a copy of it. I tried to do a search via the Internet and could not find their marriage in Quebec, nor at the Provincial Archives of New Brunswick site. Perhaps someone with Ancestry can find it as I don't have a subscription. Here are links to two or more trees with some information: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=acadianroy&id=I8795 http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=acadianroy&id=I8719 You can find two others at Rootsweb.com by clicking on the Family Trees box in top menu. Enter Pelletier + Helene in the boxes, and when they all pop-up, go to bottom boxes and to spouse, and type: Firmin (no surname). Four trees will appear in the search results, but take all these with a grain of salt. One tree at Rootsweb has their marriage listed at Edmundston, NB on 20 Apr 1920, but in the absence of that record, do not know how accurate it is. Those trees at Rootsweb family search also list different parents for Firmin; in one, it gives Alphonse and Philomene (Hudon) D'Amours; in another, Alphonse and Albertine (Ouellet) D'Amours. He was allegedly born at Riviere-du-Loup (Kamouraska), QC [St-Patrice parish], and baptized there on 19 Dec 1885 (or thereabouts). Family search website does not bring that parish's registers up to that year, stopping at 1880, so there's no way of my checking who his real parents are. Perhaps someone with a subscription to Ancestry can locate the record for you. One tree says he died on 18 Dec 1971, probably in Quebec City, but no place is given, so how does one really know? One tree also says he was previously married to a Corinne Belanger. I have not found any record to substantiate this. As for Helene, she was the daughter of Romuald and Olive (Lee) Pelletier of St. Basile, NB. Helene was supposedly born there on 25 Sep 1892; and died on 6 Jun 1936 (don't know where, could be Quebec City??). One tree also says she married a Raoul Belanger at St-Basile, NB in 1912. I could not find that marriage at the Provincial Archives of New Brunswick either, so don't know how true it is; but I did find a daughter of theirs, Marie-Aline Belanger born at Edmunston, NB on 25 Aug 1913. Their marriage is probably listed in the series of marriages of Madawaska County, but I do not have a copy of that set of books to check the marriage of her parents and their parentage. One of the things I detest about people throwing things on Rootsweb is that they never list places or sources. At least with a place, one can usually find alternative material or sites to check the information given. Without a place, Quebec and New Brunswick are quite vast areas to research, so let this be a lesson to everyone placing questions on message boards or adding trees to any databases.... please, please, please, list a place with your d/m/y data. It helps people zero in on information without taking up a ton of time and effort on the part of researchers trying to help find an answer for you. Am sure anyone with an Ancestry subscription can be of more help. For what this is all worth... at least it's a path to finding your data. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: karen lynn obrien via ACADIAN <acadian@rootsweb.com> To: Paul L LeBlanc via <acadian@rootsweb.com> Cc: karen lynn obrien <gtoklo38@gmail.com> Sent: Sat, Apr 8, 2017 10:58 am Have any of you ever researched the name Combrun dit D'Amone? I have a second cousin that married Firmin Combrun dit d'Amone but there is nothing further on either him or Helen Pelletier that died 1936, possibly Quebec or New Brunswick. . ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message