Thanks Liz and Don My interest is to find what happened to Calixte. If he was away to war, he didn't return to his family. There are no records I can find for him after the 1860 census when he was with his family at Fausse Pointe (then in St. Martin Parish, now Iberia Parish, LA). No records of marriage or death are apparent. The name C. David probably fit many from Louisiana; but Co I/18th rings a bell (maybe it was a local unit). C
Hi: The Confederate Pension Records do not list a "C" David. I could not find who he married, do you know that? It might be listed under her name. Don Boudreaux On 3/13/2010 3:38 PM, Cecil Van Duzee wrote: > Hello > > I'm hoping someone could do a confederate lookup for: > > > David, Calixte b.9 Jun 1841 Fausse Pointe (Rg StMartinville-LA 8/1841 SWLR-CD) > > > > family line Eugene/Paul/Michel/Jean David dit St. Michel of Louisbourg, I'le Royale > > > > not found after 1860 census > > > > > > > > C > ------------------------------- > To check our Archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ > ------------------------------- > To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try& stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >
Aline Cormier Acadian-Roots genealogy site www.acadian-roots.com Another door to our acadianroots genealogy group Acadians,Cajuns, and French Canadians are all welcome http://groups.yahoo.com/group/petiteacadienne/ Visit my gift shop http://www.zazzle.com/allicor* My family tree software Legacy has a sale on http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/?Click=1170 ________________________________ From: Liz Hall Morgan <hallroots@sbcglobal.net> To: acadian@rootsweb.com; cvanduzee@msn.com Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 7:18:15 PM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] confederate lookup Calixte David Hi Cecil, From Ancestry.com - Louisiana Confederate Soldiers database: Confederate Research Sources Volume 1 D. page 543 David, C. K.,Pvt. Co. – 5th La. Cav. Federal Rolls of Prisoners of War, Captured at East Baton Rouge, La., Jan. 9th, 1865. Recd. at New Orleans, La., Jan. 19th, 1865. Transferred to Ship Island, Miss., Jan. 22nd, 1865. Confederate Research Sources Volume 1 D. page 543 David, C.,Pvt. Co. I. 18th La. Infty. Federal Rolls of Prisoners of War, Captured Bayou Teche, La., April 14th, 1863. Sent to New Orleans, La., April 27th, 1863, to be exchanged. you might try Acadiansingray.com as well-- or the confederate pensions database below, but I can't access the search page right now: http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/581/Default.aspx Liz Liz Hall Morgan Los Angeles, CA (Sulphur, LA native) ________________________________ From: Cecil Van Duzee <CVanDuzee@msn.com> To: ACADIAN <ACADIAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 1:38:46 PM Subject: [ACADIAN] confederate lookup Calixte David Hello I'm hoping someone could do a confederate lookup for: David, Calixte b.9 Jun 1841 Fausse Pointe (Rg StMartinville-LA 8/1841 SWLR-CD) family line Eugene/Paul/Michel/Jean David dit St. Michel of Louisbourg, I'le Royale not found after 1860 census C ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer® 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
Hello I'm hoping someone could do a confederate lookup for: David, Calixte b.9 Jun 1841 Fausse Pointe (Rg StMartinville-LA 8/1841 SWLR-CD) family line Eugene/Paul/Michel/Jean David dit St. Michel of Louisbourg, I'le Royale not found after 1860 census C
Gooday I'm looking for family/ancestors for Joseph Narcisse Landry. He was born c1822 it seems in some area between the Atchafalaya and the Mississippi and died in New Orleans. Here is the info I have: census:1870/LA/Iberia/New Iberia/p.1 Landry, Joseph 48MW Auctioneer b. LA , Caroline 45FW LA , Mary 23FW FRANCE , Clemence 20FW LA , Narcisse 18MW Clerk in store LA Barthelemy, J. 30MW Engineer LA Mary Adelle 18FB Domestic servant LA NEE, Marie Caroline (Pierre Louis - doctor of medicine & Marie Claire BENOIT de St. Clair) b. 19 Sept. 1825, bt. 16 June 1827 Pats: Joseph NEE & Marie Francoise DUHEM; Mats: Jean Baptiste BENOIT de St. Clair & Marie Lise DECLOUET; Spons: Louis Evarme NEE & Marie Louise BENOIT de St.Clair. Fr. Marcel BORELLA (SM Ch.: v.7, #1941) NEE, Pierre Louis - medical doctor; inhabitant of this parish; native of Candelac, Departement de Seine - inferieure (major son of Joseph & Marie Albertine DUHEM) m. 10 Feb. 1820 Claire BENOIST - native of this parish (major daughter of dec. Jean Baptiste & Marie Louise DECLOUET) Wits: BENOIT de St. Clair, St. Claire BENOIT, Declouet BENOIST, Joseph DUBUCLET, Jean DEHAMEL, Paul BRIANT, Rev. Michel BARRIERE. Fr. Gabriel ISABEY (SM Ch.: v.6, #177) NEE, Pierre Louis of Candebe en Caux, France (Joseph & Marie Albertine DUHEM) m. 10 Feb. 1820 Marie BENOIT de St. Claire (SM Ct.Hse.: OA-33-4091) BARTHELEMY, John Creg (Jacques Creg & Carmelite LANDRY) m. 29 Sept. 1869 Marie Caroline LANDRY (NI Ch.: v. 2, p. 29) LANDRY, Marie Caroline (Joseph Narcisse & Marie Caroline NEE) m. 29 Sept. 1869 John Creg BARTHELEMY (NI Ch.: v. 2, p. 29) BARTHELEMY, Charles Joseph (John & Marie LANDRY) d. 19 Sept. 1870 at birth (NI Ch.: v. 2, p. 17) BARTHELEMY, Marie Julienne Caroline (John Vives Craig & Marie Caroline LANDRY) b. 2 May 1873 (NI. Ch.: v. 2, p. 229) C
Hi Cecil, From Ancestry.com - Louisiana Confederate Soldiers database: Confederate Research Sources Volume 1 D. page 543 David, C. K.,Pvt. Co. – 5th La. Cav. Federal Rolls of Prisoners of War, Captured at East Baton Rouge, La., Jan. 9th, 1865. Recd. at New Orleans, La., Jan. 19th, 1865. Transferred to Ship Island, Miss., Jan. 22nd, 1865. Confederate Research Sources Volume 1 D. page 543 David, C.,Pvt. Co. I. 18th La. Infty. Federal Rolls of Prisoners of War, Captured Bayou Teche, La., April 14th, 1863. Sent to New Orleans, La., April 27th, 1863, to be exchanged. you might try Acadiansingray.com as well-- or the confederate pensions database below, but I can't access the search page right now: http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/581/Default.aspx Liz Liz Hall Morgan Los Angeles, CA (Sulphur, LA native) ________________________________ From: Cecil Van Duzee <CVanDuzee@msn.com> To: ACADIAN <ACADIAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 1:38:46 PM Subject: [ACADIAN] confederate lookup Calixte David Hello I'm hoping someone could do a confederate lookup for: David, Calixte b.9 Jun 1841 Fausse Pointe (Rg StMartinville-LA 8/1841 SWLR-CD) family line Eugene/Paul/Michel/Jean David dit St. Michel of Louisbourg, I'le Royale not found after 1860 census C
Cousin Rick found this. wikipedia has her parents & grandmother. other articles pointers follow Paul Le B l'Ascension Louisiane ============================================ Rick Arsenault P.E.I.-born oldest living American dies at 114 WESTMORELAND, N.H. — Mary Josephine Ray, the New Hampshire woman who was certified as the oldest person living in the United States, has died at age 114 years, 294 days. She died Sunday at a nursing home in Westmoreland but was active until about two weeks before her death, her granddaughter Katherine Ray said. "She just enjoyed life. She never thought of dying at all," Katherine Ray said. "She was planning for her birthday party." Even with her recent decline, Ray managed an interview with a reporter last week, her granddaughter said. Ray was the oldest person in the United States and the second-oldest in the world, according to the Gerontology Research Group. Ray was born May 17, 1895, in Bloomfield, Prince Edward Island. She moved to the United States at age three. Ray’s husband, Walter, died in 1967. Survivors include two sons, eight grandchildren, 13 great-grandchildren and five great-great grandchildren. ============================================= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Josephine_Ray Born in Bloomfield, Prince Edward Island, Canada to French Canadian (Acadian) parents, Sabin Arsenault and Lydie Anne Blanchard, Mary Josephine moved to the United States at age three. Her father died when she was 7 and her mother also died when she was 15. Mary went out on her own, working in factories in Maine. Later she married Walter Ray (in the 1920s; he died in 1967) and moved to New Hampshire. Later, Mary Jo retired to Florida at age 80. She lived there on her own until 100, when her family brought her back to New Hampshire. At age 102, she moved into a nursing home when the family felt they could no longer care for her at home. Her paternal grandmother, Agnès Arsenault, died at the age of 97 in 1909. ============================================== other articles http://www.thestar.com/news/obituary/article/776996--mary-ray-114-oldest-citizen-of-both-canada-and-u-s http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/offbeat/new_hampshires_mary_josephine_ray_oldest_person_in_us_092009 http://www.nydailynews.com/topics/Mary+Josephine+Ray http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6273ZB20100308
Just a little to light the path.....all the Landry connections are Acadian. 1. Josephine Ratel 2. Francois Ratel 3. Domitille Landry 4. Nicolas Ratel 5. Marguerite Germain dite Belisle 6. Narcisse Landry 7. Angelique Guimon 8. Noel Ratel 9. Marie Landry 10. Jean Baptiste Germain dit Belisle 11. Therese Douvier dit Lamarche 12. Paul Landry 13. Marie Archange Demers dite Dumais 14. Joseph Guimon 15. Catherine Marsan dite Lapierre 16. Pierre Ratel 17. Marie de Gane 18. Paul Landry 19. Anasthasie LeBlanc 20. Jean Baptiste Germain dit Belisle 21. Marie Anne ?Groslot 22. Joseph Douvier dit Lamarche 23. Marie Josephte Laperche 24. Germaine Landry 25. Marguerite Benoit 26. Jean Baptiste Demers dit Dumais 27. Marie Agathe Bodquin dite StAndre C ----- Original Message ----- From: pleblan@aim.com<mailto:pleblan@aim.com> To: acadian@rootsweb.com<mailto:acadian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 10:39 AM Subject: [ACADIAN] Ratelle Josephine I could not find her parents marriage in Quebec so I decided to chase the family in the US census She may have been named for her uncle joseph's wife Notes by each census It looks like her parents MAY have been married in New York Paul Le B l'Ascension Louisiane ======================== Her older sister Asildo is born in New York in 1856 so our working parents marriage date is 1855 Josephine is 5/12 (months) Does anyone know if 1860 census ages based on date taken June 2 (Jan 1860 birth) or Jan 1 (Jul 1859 birth)? 1860 United States Federal Census about Josephine Ratelle Name: Josephine Ratelle Age in 1860: 5/12 Birth Year: abt 1860 Birthplace: Wisconsin Home in 1860: Grand Rapids, Wood, Wisconsin Gender: Female Post Office: Grand Rapids Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Francis Ratelle 30 Demetille Ratelle 22 Asildo Ratelle 4 Joseph Ratelle 3 Josephine Ratelle 5/12 ============================================ Daughters are missing from the census? Have the girls gone to work this early? Living next to them is N? & Debra Landry? (hold in case they tie in later. 1870 United States Federal Census about Frank Rattelle Name: Frank Rattelle Birth Year: abt 1834 Age in 1870: 36 Birthplace: Canada Home in 1870: Centralia, Wood, Wisconsin Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View image Post Office: Centralia Household Members: Name Age Frank Rattelle 36 Demos Rattelle 29 Joseph Rattelle 8 George Rattelle 5 Frank Rattelle 3 John Rattelle 7/12 ========================================== Josephine is working out of the home 1880 United States Federal Census about Josephine Rattell Name: Josephine Rattell Home in 1880: Centralia, Wood, Wisconsin Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Birthplace: Wisconsin Relation to Head of Household: Something other than a direct relationship (Other) Father's birthplace: Cana Mother's birthplace: Cana Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Servant Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Female Household Members: Name Age Frank W. Hinman 26 Henrietta Hinman 21 Josephine Rattell 20 Frederick Hinman 17 =========================== The rest of the family 1880 United States Federal Census about Frank Rattell Name: Frank Rattell Home in 1880: Centralia, Wood, Wisconsin Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Birthplace: Cana Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) Spouse's name: Matilda Father's birthplace: Cana Mother's birthplace: Cana Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Teamster Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age Frank Rattell 50 Matilda Rattell 44 Joseph Rattell 22 George Rattell 16 Caroline Rattell 17 Frank Rattell 12 Clarence Rattell 5 Cimion Rattell 3 Mary Rattell 1M ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/<http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/> ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I thought that I had received my 2010 census form in the mail today. But noooooo. It was a letter telling me that I WILL receive my census form. Don't forget to add your maiden name and make a copy for your files. Your ancestors will thank you. Lea
First Generation 1. Barthelemy BERGERON dit d'Amboise was born1 about 1663 in Amboise, Touraine, Indre-et-Loire, France. He was christened2,3,4,5 on 23 May 1663 in Amboise, Touraine, Indre-et-Loire, France. He died6 before 1737 in Ste-Anne-des-Pays-Bas, [Fredericton], New Brunswick, Canada. Barthelemy immigrated7,8 in Sep 1684 to Quebec, , Quebec, Canada. He signed a will9 on 7 Jan 1690 in Quebec, , Quebec, Canada. He resided10 in 1694/1704 in Boston, , MA. He was counted in a census11 in 1707 in Port Royal, , , Acadia. He was counted in a census12 in 1714 in Port Royal, , , Acadia. He was employed13,14 as Merchant. He was counted in a census15 in 1731 in Pointe St-Anne, , New Brunswick, Canada. BIRTH-OCCUPATION-MARRIAGE-CHILDREN: Stephen A. White, DICTIONNAIRE GENEALOGIQUE DES FAMILLES ACADIENNES; 1636-1714; Moncton, New Brunswick, Centre d'Etudes Acadiennes, 1999, 2 vols.; p. 122; own copy. #1: [No parents are given for him.] BIRTH: Article "Bergeron dit d'Amboise" on Internet web site by Aline Cormier at www.acadian-roots. com/genealogy-bergeron.html There was a birth record found by a genealogist in France named Jean Marie Germe of one Barthelemy Bergeron baptized May 23, 1663 in St-Denis in Amboise, France, son of Rene Bergeron and Anne Dugault. Again there is no proof that Rene and Anne Dugast were our Barthelemy's parents, although Anne Dugast's parents came from Nantes and Barthelemy's son took the dit name of Michel dit Nantes." PARENTS: Posting by Larry Bergeron at website on Bergeron descendants, at: http://groups.google.com/ group/bergeron-damboise/browse_thread/thread/f7ee51987aa54144 I do not think that his parents are Antoine and Claudette Scarron mainly because of the lack of a birth/ baptism record. When the baptism record was found naming Rene and Anne Dagault as the parents of Barthelemy Bergeron I felt that our search was over we have found his true parents at last. But now we have to prove that this Barthelemy is the one that married Genevieve Serreau dit St Aubin and therefore our true ancestor. I agree with Aline Cormier in that we must go to any length to find the true facts. We have checked with the Archives at Amboise and had no luck there so our next step is Nantes. We also want to try and find some kind of Military record where Barthelemy joined the "Troupe de la Marine" that should also tell us who his parents were. Posting by "Marius" (marius.damboise@gmail.com) in Nov 2007: In 1720-1760, Ste-Anne-de-la-rivière-St-Jean, to-day Fredericton, was the center of French Acadia. The old Acadia was under English domination since the Utrecht treaty (1713). Our ancestors were in based in Old Acadia, mainly Port-Royal for Barthelemy's family for about 20 years. Then, we have to understand that Barthelemy's family refused the allegiance oath and moved on the other side of what is today Fundy bay, in Ste-Anne. Ste-Anne-de-la-rivière-St-Jean (also known as Ste-Anne-des-Pays-Bas) was "founded" by Gabriel Godin-Bellefontaine, and the Bergeron family was one of the first families to join the Godin's. Those families were closely associated for about 100 years. Three of the daughters of Barthelemy and one of his sons married four children of Gabriel Godin. These families lived in peace in Ste-Anne and so far as we can judge, were relatively wealthy. But the village was atrociously destroyed in 1759. Many inhabitants were killed or made prisoners. This episode has been vividly described by Fidèle Thériault in "Le Petit Courrier" vol. 11, no. 1 (1995). Rich Bergeron has nicely translated the text into English. !PARENTS: E-mail posting at <ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> #190 on 27 Apr 1999 by Tomlin (boandbg@pancomlnet). Barthelemy's parents were Antoine [sic] BERGERON married Claudette SCARRON [sic]. (Reference: Adrien Bergeron, LE GRAND ARRANGEMENT DES ACADIENS AU QUEBEC). [Stephen WHITE notes that this article has certain "imprecisions."] BIRTH-IMMIGRATION-RESIDENCES-MARRIAGE-CHILDREN: Bona Arsenault, Histoire et Généalogie des Acadiens, pp. 427-429 (Port Royal). See long note there. Arrived in Canada in 1685 as "volontaire de la marine" (volunteer seaman). Lived in the lower part of Québec from 1685 to 1690, at Pierre LEZEAU's, the shipmaster. He accompanied Pierre LeMoyne d'Iberville on most of his campaigns "dont celle de" Hudson Bay. Arrived in Acadia with d'Iberville in 1696. Married around 1695 [?] to Genevieve SERREAU dit Saint-Aubin, born in Québec, the widow of Jacques PETITPAS. In 1704 he was made prisoner with all the members of his family, at the time of the attack of Colonel Church against Port Royal, and was taken away into captivity at Boston, where he was kept as a hostage. After his liberation he returned to Port Royal where he lived in the sector "du Cap," near the fort, and navigated for his living. He owned a schooner, and made trading trips between Port Royal, Les Mines (Grand Pré and Pisiguit), Beaubassin, Chipoudy, Petitcoudiac and Sainte-Anne-du-Pays-Bas. Around 1730 he moved to settle at the riviere Saint-Jean, in New Brunswick, where he was one of the pioneers of Sainte-Anne-du-Pays-Bas, today known as Frédericton. Several of his descendants tooks the name of DAMBOISE. BAPTISM-SPONSOR: PRDH, http://www.genealogie.umontreal.ca/en/member/Acte.asp?33626 Barthelemy BERGERON acted as godfather at L'Ange-Gardien, Quebec, Canada, on 15 Feb 1691 at the baptism of Anne GARNAUT, born 13 Feb 1691, daughter of Francois GARNAUT & Louise KAREAU. Anne BRISSON was the godmother. C. GAULTIER was the Curate (record No. 33626). MILITARY: Adrien Bergeron, "Aux origines acadiennes: Barthelemy Bergeron, héros méconnu," [part 1] in LES MÉMOIRES DE LA SOCIÉTÉ GÉNÉALOGIQUE CANADIENNE-FRANCAISE; vol. XX, no.3 (Jul- Aug-Sep 1969, issue 101); pp. 158-173. In French, details the history of this man in Acadia, including his incarceration with his family in Boston in 1704. Continued in part 2 in same journal, vol. XX, no. 4 (Oct-Nov-Dec 1969, issue 102); pp. 201-219. MILITARY: The Schenectady (Corlaer) New York Massacre 8 February 1690 <http://www. schenectadyhistory.org/resources/patent/09.html> On the night of 8 February 1690, Barthelemy Bergeron D'Amboise was one of the surviving 114 frenchman and 96 native-american "Injuns" that descended from Quebec in a murderous raid upon this fortified but unguarded New York village. They also planned to attack Fort Orange (Albany NY) but decided not to split their forces. MARRIAGE: Janet Jehn, CORRECTIONS & ADDITIONS TO ARSENAULT'S HISTOIRE ET GENEALOGIE DES ACADIENS; 1550-1850; Covington, KY, author, 1988; p. 3 (reference to p. 428); own copy. Barthelémy's wife Genevieve SERREAU dit SAINT-AUBIN was not the widow of Jacques PETITPAS [sic]; this was her sister Marguerite. (Reference "Coll. des Documents Inedits" published by LE CANADA-FRANCAISE, vol. 3; Quebec, 1890; p. 167.) [Stephen A. White's Dictionnaire disagrees with this.] Barthelemy married16,17 Genevieve SERREAU de Saint-Aubin daughter of Sieur Jean SERREAU de Saint-Aubin and Marguerite BOILEAU de la Gouppilliere about 1695 in Port Royal, , , Acadia. Genevieve was born18 on 7 Aug 1667 in , , Quebec, Canada. She was christened19 on 9 Aug 1667 in Quebec, , Quebec, Canada. She died20 after 1739. Second Generation 2. Rene BERGERON II was born21 on 4 May 1642/1643 in , , , France. He married Anne DAGAULT about 1662 in , , , France. 3. Anne DAGAULT was christened on 6 Aug 1646 in Amboise, Touraine, Indre-et-Loire, France. She died22 in 1701. Third Generation 4. Rene BERGERON .Rene married Denise PHILBERT. 5. Denise PHILBERT . 6. Jean DAGAULT .Jean married Martine HABERT. 7. Martine HABERT . Appendix A - Sources 1. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes (2 vols., Moncton, New Brunswick: Centre d'Études Acadiennes, 1999), p. 122, BERGERON #1, Karen Theriot Reader, 2045 Green Valley Road, Corralitos CA 95076-8618 USA."Born in Amboise [France, no parents given], a "commerçant" (merchant)."No date given for birth. 2. BMS & NMD de Sauzon 1617 - 1901, Internet, http://www.escompte.fr/denis/sauzon/index.html."Baptism at the Church of St-Denis, son of René BERGERON & Anne DAGAULT. His grandparents are listed here [in my genealogy] as René BERGERON & Denise PHILBERT; Jean DAGAULT & Catherine AUBERT."I found the baptism of Barthelemy Bergeron in 1974 in the library of Amboise. I spent many days searching through their records before I finally, on a bright sunny morning, turned the page to the baptism act on left, top of the page. I examined the records from 1600 roughly to 1710 and I did not find any other Bergeron (or D'Amboise, by the way) named <<Barthelemy >>. Furthermore, the time bracket that I first considered for Barthelemy's birth was 1655-1665 based on the time of his arrival in Canada and the supposed age for his marriage according to Father Adrien Bergeron. I have examined the records of all of the parishes in Amboise and none but St-Denis contained an act for Barthelemy. I was therefore and still am convinced that the act found was that of Barthelemy, our ancestor. The act is that of his baptism, not of his birth. However, it is very likely that he was born around the day he was baptized, since this was the common practice at the time ."In the document "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)" Marius D'Amboise states that during a search in the library at Amboise in Jul 1989 he found the "Répertoire des naissances de la paroisse St-Denis d'Amboise 1626-1740." On p. 120 it indicated that the father of Barthélemy was René Bergeron. This document, classified GG176B, mentioned the birth [sic, baptism] in May 1663 of Barthélemy Bergeron, son of René and Anne Dagault. Examining this repertoire gave no other child called Barthélemy Bergeron. Moreover, his examination of the baptismal acts from the other parishes of Amboise (le Bout-des-Ponts, Notre-Dame-en-Grèves, and St-Florentin) did not show any other baptism of a Barthélemy Bergeron from the beginning of the 17th century to the beginning of the 18th."At <www.damboise.net/fiches/fiche50.html#1258>. 3. BMS & NMD de Sauzon 1617 - 1901."A genealogical researcher in France by the name of Jean-Marie Germe has actually found a baptismal certificate for Barthélemy Bergeron d’Amboise, <http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=24018881&postID=4239769750458990356> who was baptized at Saint Denis church in Amboise on May 23, 1663. He was the son of René Bergeron and Anne Dagault and his godparents were Barthélemy Bertail and Gabrielle Saicher. (Cites: AGCF98c, p. 13 (which has a photocopy of the baptismal certificate), and AGCF99, p. 3.)Note: AGCF= Arrêté du Gouvernement de la Communauté Française (Decree of the Government of the French Community, Belgium).""Three Acadian Generations" by Richard J. Bergeron, at <http>//3ag.blogspot.com/. 4. Bergeron-damboise@googlegroups.com, http://groups.google.com/group/bergeron-damboise?hl=en."Concerning Barthelemy, some of you have mentioned the existence of "two" Barthelemy born in Amboise. I can assure you that there is only one, baptized May 23, 1663, son of René and Anne Dagault. I spend many days searching the old registers of Amboise in 1974, 1976, 1984 and 1989. I found the "baptistère" of Barthelemy in 1974 and although I searched the registers of all parishes of Amboise between 1640 and 1710, I found no other Barthelemy. There is no Barthelemy, son of Antoine. In addition, in 1989, I found a register which gave an index of all "baptistères" registered in Amboise. This index, according to the librarian was probably established at the time of the French Revolution. In this index, there is only one Barthelemy, son of René and Anne Dagault. Therefore, based on the most likelihood principle, one must assume that our ancestor was the son of René and Anne Dagault. Finally, note that in France, before the Revolution, as well as in Québec until recently, the "baptistères" acts were the official birth acts and there is no other official acts. The priest had to write two acts: one for the Church, the other one was registered every year with the state. I believe, although I have not yet been able to establish it, that Barthelemy was linked to Antoine, a distant cousin... They are in my plans for my next visit in Amboise. I think it would be interesting to find an act for the engagement of Barthelemy as a "volontaire de la marine" however, I doubt that this would provide information so far as who were his parents. I have read many engagements contracts and very few of them give this information. But, one never knows... The one act that every one would wish to have is the marriage. Unfortunately, no one has been succesful in finding this act between Barthelemy and Genevieve. At this point, we have been looking in Québec and in Acadia. But my recent thought brings me to think that they may have married in Boston. This idea is shared by our cousin Joseph, from NH. I have no idea, however, where that information could be in the USA. I also have another hypothesis: they could have married in Nantes. In fact, it was not uncommon that some Acadians went to Nantes to marry."Posted by "Marius" (marius.damboise@gmail.com) on the BERGERON newsgroup in Oct 2007. 5. D'Amboise, Marius, "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)", 2009, Internet, www.damboise-gen.ca/documents/BarthelemyBergeron.pdf."Contains a copy of the actual baptismal document found in Amboise by the author in 1974. Barthélemy Bergeron, baptized on 23 May 1663, son of René Bergeron & Anne Dagault. Sponsors: Barthélemy Bairau [sic] & Gabrielle Saiches, who both signed." 6. Bergeron-damboise@googlegroups.com."From: B.-M. Thériault To: larrybergeron@earthlink.net Cc: Yvonne McLaughlin Sent: 10/29/2007 2:16:26 PM Subject: Pointe Sainte Anne Cemetry Mr. Lawrence, I was pleased to read from a descendant of the Bergeron family from Pointe-Sainte-Anne. Your timing of requesting information on the site of the cemetery is somewhat appropriate since the Société d'histoire de la rivière Saint-Jean (SHRSJ) wants to commemorate the 250e ann. of the destruction of the village in 2009. Over the years, the Société d'histoire has tried many times to have the site recongnised in a variety of ways. As part of our plan of activities for the year we want to examine, again, the feasability to have the site of the village recognized as a protected site either by the provincial government or by the federal government. I'll get back to you with more details on the activities the Société d'histoire has undertaken regarding the site of the village & its cemetery. In 1993, the Société d'histoire produced a small booklet dedicated to the history of Pointe-Sainte-Anne since there was, and still are, disagreement on who now owns the land. If you provide me with an address we could send you a copy (an English version) of that booklet which I think you would find most interesting. Meanwhile you could also, if you can, provide us with more details on your ancesters at Pointe-Sainte-Anne. If you do visit Fredericton next summer, we could arrange for a meeting. Bernard-M. Thériault President Société d'histoire de la rivière Saint-Jean." 7. BMS & NMD de Sauzon 1617 - 1901."Barthélemy arrived in New France between 1680 & 1684, with the first traces of him at Québec in 1684. The marquis de DENONVILLE arrived in Canada with 600 soldiers in 1684 as Governor, replacing M. de LA BARRE.On 11 Jul 1684 COLBERT wrote that the king was sending 300 soldiers on "L'Émérillon," which embarked on 13 Aug, forming five companies of 60 men each. They arrived in Québec around the end of Sep 1684."http://www.damboise.net/fiches/fiche50.html#f1258. 8. Mémoires de la Société-Généalogique Canadienne-Française , vol. 20, no. 3 (1969), p. 160 , Margaret Walker, Santa Cruz CA 95060."Article by Father Adrien Bergeron. Barthélemy would have arrived in Québec in Sep 1684 as a member of the first company Franche de la Marine, associated with D'Iberville. On 5 Nov 1684 the notary Michel Fillion wrote the terms of the contract, at the home of Jean Picart, merchant of Quebec. Barthélemy bergeron was listed as a "boullanger" (baker). He would be part of an association for five months, until 1 Jun 1685, when profits would be shared, He would have been a "voluntaire du Roy" rather than a soldier."Also vol. 20, no. 4 (1969), p. 201. 9. D'Amboise, Marius, "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)", p. 5."In 1690, before a risky expedition "aux anglois" (to the English), Barthélemy Bergeron, a "vollontaire" living in Quebec, made a will before the notary Gilles Rageot. Item: give to Pierre LEZEAU, ship's master, living in Quebec, the sum of three hundred livres (pounds), for the good friendship he has for him;Item: give to the poor of the general hospital of this city another sum of three hundred pounds. Pierre Lezeau had eleven hundred fifty pounds on hand. The surplus was to be given to make prayers to God for the repose of his sould after his death." 10. ACADIAN Digest, www.acadian@rootsweb.com."Barthelemy was captured twice: 1694 and 1704-06. The latter time was when he had his whole family with him and during this time a daughter was born."Posting by Richard Bergeron in Mar 2008. 11. Margaret C. Melanson, Melanson Story, The: Acadian Family, Acadian Times, Toronto: Author, 2003, p. 87, Karen Theriot Reader, 2045 Green Valley Road, Corralitos CA 95076-8618 USA."The house of Barthélemy BERGERON is shown on the map of the 1707 census, just southwest of the village of Port Royal, next door to Abraham DUGAS." 12. ACADIAN-CAJUN@rootsweb.com , Internet."DAMBOUC [sic, this is a mistranscription, should be DAMBOISE], living with a wife, three sons and three daughters."Posting by Rich Bergeron (rgergeron1@mn.rr.com) in Dec 2004. 13. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes , p. 122."Commerçant (he was a merchant)." 14. Thomas J. Laforest, Our French-Canadian Ancestors (various), vol. XIX."Barthélemy BERGERON was a soldier in the first Compagnie Franche de la Marine, a companion of Iberville. Navigator, ship's captain and privateer, he sailed all of his life in the area of the Bay of Fundy."Covers many names, including Andre BERGERON, in Chapter 5. 15. Bergeron-damboise@googlegroups.com."He was mentioned in the 1731 census as "The old Bergeron d'Amboise" (he would have been about 65 then)."Posting by Aline in Sep 2007. 16. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes , pp. 122 & 1463."Geneviève was a widow of Jacques PETITPAS."No place given for marriage. 17. ACADIAN Digest."We do not know for sure how Barthélémy first met Geneviève, the younger daughter of Jean Serreau de St-Aubin and Marguerite Boyleau, but we can weave together some intriguing strands of information. Fr. Bergeron wondered if Barthélémy and Geneviève might have met at the time of delivering Jean Serreau's family from their captivity in Boston. We have no idea when they first met or what transpired on those meeting(s), for Geneviève was probably married at the time to Jacques Petitpas. She had given birth to two sons, Jean (born 1691) and Nicolas. But Petitpas had died in 1694. Fr. Adrien Bergeron wrote: "the wife of Barthélémy was certainly Geneviève Serreau de Saint-Aubin, but, contrary to what Bona Arsenault erroneously tells, not the widow of Jacques Petitpas; the latter, in fact, had married the older sister of Geneviève, Marguerite." On the other hand, Stephen White, acclaimed genealogist at the Centre d'Etudes Acadienne at the Université de Moncton, who supposedly double- and triple-checked every fact before publishing his two-volume Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes, insists that Geneviève was indeed the widow of Jacques Petitpas. So, who are we to believe? We stared at a crucial piece of information for years until Joe Damboise of Grafton, NH, pointed out that in the diaries of his expedition in 1704, Colonel Church mentions finding "De Boisses' wife, who had formerly been Colonel Church's prisoner, and carried to Boston, but returned; who seemed very glad to see him. She had with her, two sons, that were near grown men." Joe pointed out what should have been obvious to us: these "two sons, that were near grown men" had to be her sons Jean and Nicolas Petitpas, now in their early teens, nearly grown men in those days. About 1695 D'Iberville was set to lead another expedition against Newfoundland, but royal bureaucracy balked at his military expenditures. He had to go to France to argue his cause, and even then funding was not quick to come. As Fr. Bergeron wrote, he could no longer keep around him his 18 to 20 favorites. But as far as Barthélémy was concerned, he was no longer associated with D'Iberville. Besides, at this time he was being held in a prison in Boston. Fr. Bergeron wrote that in 1695, "without doubt, his betrothed Geneviève Serreau de Saint-Aubin had taken the opportunity of the 'difficulties of d'Iberville' to finally convince Barthélémy that the hour had come!" We do not know if Barthélémy continued to sail with Baptiste after his marriage. Joe Damboise brought another very interesting point to my attention. In analyzing the governor's letters, we see that Villebon was notified on December 9, 1694 that the English wanted to exchange a sailor of Baptiste's crew for an English ship-master that Villebon was holding. The exchange actually occurred on June 24, 1695. Thus it is firmly established for us that Barthélémy Bergeron D'Amboise was in prison in Boston, at the very minimum, for almost seven months. We also know that Benjamin Church captured members of the Serreau de St.-Aubin family in 1692. According to the Dictionary of Canadian Biography: "in a letter that Saint-Aubin sent to Boston in 1695 mention is made of a ransom of 30 livres for his daughter." The most logical daughter would be Geneviève, captured in 1692 with her husband at the time, Jacques Petitpas. Thus we have Barthélémy and Geneviève, the widow of Petitpas, in prison in Boston at the same time. How do we know they were together? Their first child was Barthélémy II, baptized at Île d'Orléans (Québec) on 1 January 1696. (The baby's godparents were Michel Chartier and his grandmother, Marguerite Boisleau.) We have no idea why the family was in Québec at this time. We do know for facts that: 1.) Petitpas had died in 1694, 2.) Barthélémy Bergeron D'Amboise was not freed from Boston until late June of 1695, and 3.) Barthelemy II was baptized on 1 January 1696, meaning, of course, that he had been born before then. Calculations easily made show that Barthélémy and Geneviève HAD to have been together for Barthélémy II to be conceived and born before the following New Year's Day. And both Barthélémy and Geneviève were in Boston prisons when son Barthélémy had to have been conceived. Logically they must have been together in the same prison. Fr. Bergeron believes that Barthélémy and Geneviève were almost certainly married at Port Royal. There were no chapels or missions yet at any of the places where they would later live. Their marriage date was probably some time in 1695. Fr. Bergeron believed that no marriage certificate survived the later wars and deportations: "For, if my 'historical notes' are exact, the first parish Régistre of Port-Royal, ... covers only the years going from 1702 to 1715...." But the fact that they were in Québec for the baptism..." 18. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes , pp. 122, 1299 & 1463."Geneviève SERREAU de SAINT-AUBIN, daughter of Jean & Marguerite BOILEAU, born/baptized (Register of Québec) on the 7/9 Aug 1667. Sponsors: Xyste CHARRIER dit Mignard & Genevieve MACARD (wife of Charles BAZIRE)." 19. Programme de recherche en démographie historique , No. 58172, Internet, http://www.genealogie.umontreal.ca/en/leprdh.htm.Individual information."Genevieve SERREAU, daughter of Jean SERREAU STAUBIN & Marguerite BOISLEAU, born 7 Aug 1667, baptized at Québec on 9 Aug 1667 by Henri DEBERNIERES, priest. Sponsors: Xiste CARIER MIGNARD, officer of the Carignan Regiment, & Genevieve MACOART, wife of Charles BASIRE." 20. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes , pp. 122, 1299 & 1463."Genevieve died after the 1739 census." 21. D'Amboise, Marius, "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)", p. 2."Cites a document from the library of Amboise, classified GG59." 22. D'Amboise, Marius, "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)", p. 2.
Oh well, consider my message a shoutout to all the Legere, McBride, et. al. cousins out there! :) Happy to share info. Liz ________________________________ From: "KATheriot@aol.com" <KATheriot@aol.com> To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 2:26:54 PM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Landry, Valentin tree questions First Generation 1. Barthelemy BERGERON dit d'Amboise was born1 about 1663 in Amboise, Touraine, Indre-et-Loire, France. He was christened2,3,4,5 on 23 May 1663 in Amboise, Touraine, Indre-et-Loire, France. He died6 before 1737 in Ste-Anne-des-Pays-Bas, [Fredericton], New Brunswick, Canada. Barthelemy immigrated7,8 in Sep 1684 to Quebec, , Quebec, Canada. He signed a will9 on 7 Jan 1690 in Quebec, , Quebec, Canada. He resided10 in 1694/1704 in Boston, , MA. He was counted in a census11 in 1707 in Port Royal, , , Acadia. He was counted in a census12 in 1714 in Port Royal, , , Acadia. He was employed13,14 as Merchant. He was counted in a census15 in 1731 in Pointe St-Anne, , New Brunswick, Canada. BIRTH-OCCUPATION-MARRIAGE-CHILDREN: Stephen A. White, DICTIONNAIRE GENEALOGIQUE DES FAMILLES ACADIENNES; 1636-1714; Moncton, New Brunswick, Centre d'Etudes Acadiennes, 1999, 2 vols.; p. 122; own copy. #1: [No parents are given for him.] BIRTH: Article "Bergeron dit d'Amboise" on Internet web site by Aline Cormier at www.acadian-roots. com/genealogy-bergeron.html There was a birth record found by a genealogist in France named Jean Marie Germe of one Barthelemy Bergeron baptized May 23, 1663 in St-Denis in Amboise, France, son of Rene Bergeron and Anne Dugault. Again there is no proof that Rene and Anne Dugast were our Barthelemy's parents, although Anne Dugast's parents came from Nantes and Barthelemy's son took the dit name of Michel dit Nantes." PARENTS: Posting by Larry Bergeron at website on Bergeron descendants, at: http://groups.google.com/ group/bergeron-damboise/browse_thread/thread/f7ee51987aa54144 I do not think that his parents are Antoine and Claudette Scarron mainly because of the lack of a birth/ baptism record. When the baptism record was found naming Rene and Anne Dagault as the parents of Barthelemy Bergeron I felt that our search was over we have found his true parents at last. But now we have to prove that this Barthelemy is the one that married Genevieve Serreau dit St Aubin and therefore our true ancestor. I agree with Aline Cormier in that we must go to any length to find the true facts. We have checked with the Archives at Amboise and had no luck there so our next step is Nantes. We also want to try and find some kind of Military record where Barthelemy joined the "Troupe de la Marine" that should also tell us who his parents were. Posting by "Marius" (marius.damboise@gmail.com) in Nov 2007: In 1720-1760, Ste-Anne-de-la-rivière-St-Jean, to-day Fredericton, was the center of French Acadia. The old Acadia was under English domination since the Utrecht treaty (1713). Our ancestors were in based in Old Acadia, mainly Port-Royal for Barthelemy's family for about 20 years. Then, we have to understand that Barthelemy's family refused the allegiance oath and moved on the other side of what is today Fundy bay, in Ste-Anne. Ste-Anne-de-la-rivière-St-Jean (also known as Ste-Anne-des-Pays-Bas) was "founded" by Gabriel Godin-Bellefontaine, and the Bergeron family was one of the first families to join the Godin's. Those families were closely associated for about 100 years. Three of the daughters of Barthelemy and one of his sons married four children of Gabriel Godin. These families lived in peace in Ste-Anne and so far as we can judge, were relatively wealthy. But the village was atrociously destroyed in 1759. Many inhabitants were killed or made prisoners. This episode has been vividly described by Fidèle Thériault in "Le Petit Courrier" vol. 11, no. 1 (1995). Rich Bergeron has nicely translated the text into English. !PARENTS: E-mail posting at <ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> #190 on 27 Apr 1999 by Tomlin (boandbg@pancomlnet). Barthelemy's parents were Antoine [sic] BERGERON married Claudette SCARRON [sic]. (Reference: Adrien Bergeron, LE GRAND ARRANGEMENT DES ACADIENS AU QUEBEC). [Stephen WHITE notes that this article has certain "imprecisions."] BIRTH-IMMIGRATION-RESIDENCES-MARRIAGE-CHILDREN: Bona Arsenault, Histoire et Généalogie des Acadiens, pp. 427-429 (Port Royal). See long note there. Arrived in Canada in 1685 as "volontaire de la marine" (volunteer seaman). Lived in the lower part of Québec from 1685 to 1690, at Pierre LEZEAU's, the shipmaster. He accompanied Pierre LeMoyne d'Iberville on most of his campaigns "dont celle de" Hudson Bay. Arrived in Acadia with d'Iberville in 1696. Married around 1695 [?] to Genevieve SERREAU dit Saint-Aubin, born in Québec, the widow of Jacques PETITPAS. In 1704 he was made prisoner with all the members of his family, at the time of the attack of Colonel Church against Port Royal, and was taken away into captivity at Boston, where he was kept as a hostage. After his liberation he returned to Port Royal where he lived in the sector "du Cap," near the fort, and navigated for his living. He owned a schooner, and made trading trips between Port Royal, Les Mines (Grand Pré and Pisiguit), Beaubassin, Chipoudy, Petitcoudiac and Sainte-Anne-du-Pays-Bas. Around 1730 he moved to settle at the riviere Saint-Jean, in New Brunswick, where he was one of the pioneers of Sainte-Anne-du-Pays-Bas, today known as Frédericton. Several of his descendants tooks the name of DAMBOISE. BAPTISM-SPONSOR: PRDH, http://www.genealogie.umontreal.ca/en/member/Acte.asp?33626 Barthelemy BERGERON acted as godfather at L'Ange-Gardien, Quebec, Canada, on 15 Feb 1691 at the baptism of Anne GARNAUT, born 13 Feb 1691, daughter of Francois GARNAUT & Louise KAREAU. Anne BRISSON was the godmother. C. GAULTIER was the Curate (record No. 33626). MILITARY: Adrien Bergeron, "Aux origines acadiennes: Barthelemy Bergeron, héros méconnu," [part 1] in LES MÉMOIRES DE LA SOCIÉTÉ GÉNÉALOGIQUE CANADIENNE-FRANCAISE; vol. XX, no.3 (Jul- Aug-Sep 1969, issue 101); pp. 158-173. In French, details the history of this man in Acadia, including his incarceration with his family in Boston in 1704. Continued in part 2 in same journal, vol. XX, no. 4 (Oct-Nov-Dec 1969, issue 102); pp. 201-219. MILITARY: The Schenectady (Corlaer) New York Massacre 8 February 1690 <http://www. schenectadyhistory.org/resources/patent/09.html> On the night of 8 February 1690, Barthelemy Bergeron D'Amboise was one of the surviving 114 frenchman and 96 native-american "Injuns" that descended from Quebec in a murderous raid upon this fortified but unguarded New York village. They also planned to attack Fort Orange (Albany NY) but decided not to split their forces. MARRIAGE: Janet Jehn, CORRECTIONS & ADDITIONS TO ARSENAULT'S HISTOIRE ET GENEALOGIE DES ACADIENS; 1550-1850; Covington, KY, author, 1988; p. 3 (reference to p. 428); own copy. Barthelémy's wife Genevieve SERREAU dit SAINT-AUBIN was not the widow of Jacques PETITPAS [sic]; this was her sister Marguerite. (Reference "Coll. des Documents Inedits" published by LE CANADA-FRANCAISE, vol. 3; Quebec, 1890; p. 167.) [Stephen A. White's Dictionnaire disagrees with this.] Barthelemy married16,17 Genevieve SERREAU de Saint-Aubin daughter of Sieur Jean SERREAU de Saint-Aubin and Marguerite BOILEAU de la Gouppilliere about 1695 in Port Royal, , , Acadia. Genevieve was born18 on 7 Aug 1667 in , , Quebec, Canada. She was christened19 on 9 Aug 1667 in Quebec, , Quebec, Canada. She died20 after 1739. Second Generation 2. Rene BERGERON II was born21 on 4 May 1642/1643 in , , , France. He married Anne DAGAULT about 1662 in , , , France. 3. Anne DAGAULT was christened on 6 Aug 1646 in Amboise, Touraine, Indre-et-Loire, France. She died22 in 1701. Third Generation 4. Rene BERGERON .Rene married Denise PHILBERT. 5. Denise PHILBERT . 6. Jean DAGAULT .Jean married Martine HABERT. 7. Martine HABERT . Appendix A - Sources 1. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes (2 vols., Moncton, New Brunswick: Centre d'Études Acadiennes, 1999), p. 122, BERGERON #1, Karen Theriot Reader, 2045 Green Valley Road, Corralitos CA 95076-8618 USA."Born in Amboise [France, no parents given], a "commerçant" (merchant)."No date given for birth. 2. BMS & NMD de Sauzon 1617 - 1901, Internet, http://www.escompte.fr/denis/sauzon/index.html."Baptism at the Church of St-Denis, son of René BERGERON & Anne DAGAULT. His grandparents are listed here [in my genealogy] as René BERGERON & Denise PHILBERT; Jean DAGAULT & Catherine AUBERT."I found the baptism of Barthelemy Bergeron in 1974 in the library of Amboise. I spent many days searching through their records before I finally, on a bright sunny morning, turned the page to the baptism act on left, top of the page. I examined the records from 1600 roughly to 1710 and I did not find any other Bergeron (or D'Amboise, by the way) named <<Barthelemy >>. Furthermore, the time bracket that I first considered for Barthelemy's birth was 1655-1665 based on the time of his arrival in Canada and the supposed age for his marriage according to Father Adrien Bergeron. I have examined the records of all of the parishes in Amboise and none but St-Denis contained an act for Barthelemy. I was therefore and still am convinced that the act found was that of Barthelemy, our ancestor. The act is that of his baptism, not of his birth. However, it is very likely that he was born around the day he was baptized, since this was the common practice at the time ."In the document "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)" Marius D'Amboise states that during a search in the library at Amboise in Jul 1989 he found the "Répertoire des naissances de la paroisse St-Denis d'Amboise 1626-1740." On p. 120 it indicated that the father of Barthélemy was René Bergeron. This document, classified GG176B, mentioned the birth [sic, baptism] in May 1663 of Barthélemy Bergeron, son of René and Anne Dagault. Examining this repertoire gave no other child called Barthélemy Bergeron. Moreover, his examination of the baptismal acts from the other parishes of Amboise (le Bout-des-Ponts, Notre-Dame-en-Grèves, and St-Florentin) did not show any other baptism of a Barthélemy Bergeron from the beginning of the 17th century to the beginning of the 18th."At <www.damboise.net/fiches/fiche50.html#1258>. 3. BMS & NMD de Sauzon 1617 - 1901."A genealogical researcher in France by the name of Jean-Marie Germe has actually found a baptismal certificate for Barthélemy Bergeron d’Amboise, <http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=24018881&postID=4239769750458990356> who was baptized at Saint Denis church in Amboise on May 23, 1663. He was the son of René Bergeron and Anne Dagault and his godparents were Barthélemy Bertail and Gabrielle Saicher. (Cites: AGCF98c, p. 13 (which has a photocopy of the baptismal certificate), and AGCF99, p. 3.)Note: AGCF= Arrêté du Gouvernement de la Communauté Française (Decree of the Government of the French Community, Belgium).""Three Acadian Generations" by Richard J. Bergeron, at <http>//3ag.blogspot.com/. 4. Bergeron-damboise@googlegroups.com, http://groups.google.com/group/bergeron-damboise?hl=en."Concerning Barthelemy, some of you have mentioned the existence of "two" Barthelemy born in Amboise. I can assure you that there is only one, baptized May 23, 1663, son of René and Anne Dagault. I spend many days searching the old registers of Amboise in 1974, 1976, 1984 and 1989. I found the "baptistère" of Barthelemy in 1974 and although I searched the registers of all parishes of Amboise between 1640 and 1710, I found no other Barthelemy. There is no Barthelemy, son of Antoine. In addition, in 1989, I found a register which gave an index of all "baptistères" registered in Amboise. This index, according to the librarian was probably established at the time of the French Revolution. In this index, there is only one Barthelemy, son of René and Anne Dagault. Therefore, based on the most likelihood principle, one must assume that our ancestor was the son of René and Anne Dagault. Finally, note that in France, before the Revolution, as well as in Québec until recently, the "baptistères" acts were the official birth acts and there is no other official acts. The priest had to write two acts: one for the Church, the other one was registered every year with the state. I believe, although I have not yet been able to establish it, that Barthelemy was linked to Antoine, a distant cousin... They are in my plans for my next visit in Amboise. I think it would be interesting to find an act for the engagement of Barthelemy as a "volontaire de la marine" however, I doubt that this would provide information so far as who were his parents. I have read many engagements contracts and very few of them give this information. But, one never knows... The one act that every one would wish to have is the marriage. Unfortunately, no one has been succesful in finding this act between Barthelemy and Genevieve. At this point, we have been looking in Québec and in Acadia. But my recent thought brings me to think that they may have married in Boston. This idea is shared by our cousin Joseph, from NH. I have no idea, however, where that information could be in the USA. I also have another hypothesis: they could have married in Nantes. In fact, it was not uncommon that some Acadians went to Nantes to marry."Posted by "Marius" (marius.damboise@gmail.com) on the BERGERON newsgroup in Oct 2007. 5. D'Amboise, Marius, "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)", 2009, Internet, www.damboise-gen.ca/documents/BarthelemyBergeron.pdf."Contains a copy of the actual baptismal document found in Amboise by the author in 1974. Barthélemy Bergeron, baptized on 23 May 1663, son of René Bergeron & Anne Dagault. Sponsors: Barthélemy Bairau [sic] & Gabrielle Saiches, who both signed." 6. Bergeron-damboise@googlegroups.com."From: B.-M. Thériault To: larrybergeron@earthlink.net Cc: Yvonne McLaughlin Sent: 10/29/2007 2:16:26 PM Subject: Pointe Sainte Anne Cemetry Mr. Lawrence, I was pleased to read from a descendant of the Bergeron family from Pointe-Sainte-Anne. Your timing of requesting information on the site of the cemetery is somewhat appropriate since the Société d'histoire de la rivière Saint-Jean (SHRSJ) wants to commemorate the 250e ann. of the destruction of the village in 2009. Over the years, the Société d'histoire has tried many times to have the site recongnised in a variety of ways. As part of our plan of activities for the year we want to examine, again, the feasability to have the site of the village recognized as a protected site either by the provincial government or by the federal government. I'll get back to you with more details on the activities the Société d'histoire has undertaken regarding the site of the village & its cemetery. In 1993, the Société d'histoire produced a small booklet dedicated to the history of Pointe-Sainte-Anne since there was, and still are, disagreement on who now owns the land. If you provide me with an address we could send you a copy (an English version) of that booklet which I think you would find most interesting. Meanwhile you could also, if you can, provide us with more details on your ancesters at Pointe-Sainte-Anne. If you do visit Fredericton next summer, we could arrange for a meeting. Bernard-M. Thériault President Société d'histoire de la rivière Saint-Jean." 7. BMS & NMD de Sauzon 1617 - 1901."Barthélemy arrived in New France between 1680 & 1684, with the first traces of him at Québec in 1684. The marquis de DENONVILLE arrived in Canada with 600 soldiers in 1684 as Governor, replacing M. de LA BARRE.On 11 Jul 1684 COLBERT wrote that the king was sending 300 soldiers on "L'Émérillon," which embarked on 13 Aug, forming five companies of 60 men each. They arrived in Québec around the end of Sep 1684."http://www.damboise.net/fiches/fiche50.html#f1258. 8. Mémoires de la Société-Généalogique Canadienne-Française , vol. 20, no. 3 (1969), p. 160 , Margaret Walker, Santa Cruz CA 95060."Article by Father Adrien Bergeron. Barthélemy would have arrived in Québec in Sep 1684 as a member of the first company Franche de la Marine, associated with D'Iberville. On 5 Nov 1684 the notary Michel Fillion wrote the terms of the contract, at the home of Jean Picart, merchant of Quebec. Barthélemy bergeron was listed as a "boullanger" (baker). He would be part of an association for five months, until 1 Jun 1685, when profits would be shared, He would have been a "voluntaire du Roy" rather than a soldier."Also vol. 20, no. 4 (1969), p. 201. 9. D'Amboise, Marius, "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)", p. 5."In 1690, before a risky expedition "aux anglois" (to the English), Barthélemy Bergeron, a "vollontaire" living in Quebec, made a will before the notary Gilles Rageot. Item: give to Pierre LEZEAU, ship's master, living in Quebec, the sum of three hundred livres (pounds), for the good friendship he has for him;Item: give to the poor of the general hospital of this city another sum of three hundred pounds. Pierre Lezeau had eleven hundred fifty pounds on hand. The surplus was to be given to make prayers to God for the repose of his sould after his death." 10. ACADIAN Digest, www.acadian@rootsweb.com."Barthelemy was captured twice: 1694 and 1704-06. The latter time was when he had his whole family with him and during this time a daughter was born."Posting by Richard Bergeron in Mar 2008. 11. Margaret C. Melanson, Melanson Story, The: Acadian Family, Acadian Times, Toronto: Author, 2003, p. 87, Karen Theriot Reader, 2045 Green Valley Road, Corralitos CA 95076-8618 USA."The house of Barthélemy BERGERON is shown on the map of the 1707 census, just southwest of the village of Port Royal, next door to Abraham DUGAS." 12. ACADIAN-CAJUN@rootsweb.com , Internet."DAMBOUC [sic, this is a mistranscription, should be DAMBOISE], living with a wife, three sons and three daughters."Posting by Rich Bergeron (rgergeron1@mn.rr.com) in Dec 2004. 13. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes , p. 122."Commerçant (he was a merchant)." 14. Thomas J. Laforest, Our French-Canadian Ancestors (various), vol. XIX."Barthélemy BERGERON was a soldier in the first Compagnie Franche de la Marine, a companion of Iberville. Navigator, ship's captain and privateer, he sailed all of his life in the area of the Bay of Fundy."Covers many names, including Andre BERGERON, in Chapter 5. 15. Bergeron-damboise@googlegroups.com."He was mentioned in the 1731 census as "The old Bergeron d'Amboise" (he would have been about 65 then)."Posting by Aline in Sep 2007. 16. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes , pp. 122 & 1463."Geneviève was a widow of Jacques PETITPAS."No place given for marriage. 17. ACADIAN Digest."We do not know for sure how Barthélémy first met Geneviève, the younger daughter of Jean Serreau de St-Aubin and Marguerite Boyleau, but we can weave together some intriguing strands of information. Fr. Bergeron wondered if Barthélémy and Geneviève might have met at the time of delivering Jean Serreau's family from their captivity in Boston. We have no idea when they first met or what transpired on those meeting(s), for Geneviève was probably married at the time to Jacques Petitpas. She had given birth to two sons, Jean (born 1691) and Nicolas. But Petitpas had died in 1694. Fr. Adrien Bergeron wrote: "the wife of Barthélémy was certainly Geneviève Serreau de Saint-Aubin, but, contrary to what Bona Arsenault erroneously tells, not the widow of Jacques Petitpas; the latter, in fact, had married the older sister of Geneviève, Marguerite." On the other hand, Stephen White, acclaimed genealogist at the Centre d'Etudes Acadienne at the Université de Moncton, who supposedly double- and triple-checked every fact before publishing his two-volume Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes, insists that Geneviève was indeed the widow of Jacques Petitpas. So, who are we to believe? We stared at a crucial piece of information for years until Joe Damboise of Grafton, NH, pointed out that in the diaries of his expedition in 1704, Colonel Church mentions finding "De Boisses' wife, who had formerly been Colonel Church's prisoner, and carried to Boston, but returned; who seemed very glad to see him. She had with her, two sons, that were near grown men." Joe pointed out what should have been obvious to us: these "two sons, that were near grown men" had to be her sons Jean and Nicolas Petitpas, now in their early teens, nearly grown men in those days. About 1695 D'Iberville was set to lead another expedition against Newfoundland, but royal bureaucracy balked at his military expenditures. He had to go to France to argue his cause, and even then funding was not quick to come. As Fr. Bergeron wrote, he could no longer keep around him his 18 to 20 favorites. But as far as Barthélémy was concerned, he was no longer associated with D'Iberville. Besides, at this time he was being held in a prison in Boston. Fr. Bergeron wrote that in 1695, "without doubt, his betrothed Geneviève Serreau de Saint-Aubin had taken the opportunity of the 'difficulties of d'Iberville' to finally convince Barthélémy that the hour had come!" We do not know if Barthélémy continued to sail with Baptiste after his marriage. Joe Damboise brought another very interesting point to my attention. In analyzing the governor's letters, we see that Villebon was notified on December 9, 1694 that the English wanted to exchange a sailor of Baptiste's crew for an English ship-master that Villebon was holding. The exchange actually occurred on June 24, 1695. Thus it is firmly established for us that Barthélémy Bergeron D'Amboise was in prison in Boston, at the very minimum, for almost seven months. We also know that Benjamin Church captured members of the Serreau de St.-Aubin family in 1692. According to the Dictionary of Canadian Biography: "in a letter that Saint-Aubin sent to Boston in 1695 mention is made of a ransom of 30 livres for his daughter." The most logical daughter would be Geneviève, captured in 1692 with her husband at the time, Jacques Petitpas. Thus we have Barthélémy and Geneviève, the widow of Petitpas, in prison in Boston at the same time. How do we know they were together? Their first child was Barthélémy II, baptized at Île d'Orléans (Québec) on 1 January 1696. (The baby's godparents were Michel Chartier and his grandmother, Marguerite Boisleau.) We have no idea why the family was in Québec at this time. We do know for facts that: 1.) Petitpas had died in 1694, 2.) Barthélémy Bergeron D'Amboise was not freed from Boston until late June of 1695, and 3.) Barthelemy II was baptized on 1 January 1696, meaning, of course, that he had been born before then. Calculations easily made show that Barthélémy and Geneviève HAD to have been together for Barthélémy II to be conceived and born before the following New Year's Day. And both Barthélémy and Geneviève were in Boston prisons when son Barthélémy had to have been conceived. Logically they must have been together in the same prison. Fr. Bergeron believes that Barthélémy and Geneviève were almost certainly married at Port Royal. There were no chapels or missions yet at any of the places where they would later live. Their marriage date was probably some time in 1695. Fr. Bergeron believed that no marriage certificate survived the later wars and deportations: "For, if my 'historical notes' are exact, the first parish Régistre of Port-Royal, ... covers only the years going from 1702 to 1715...." But the fact that they were in Québec for the baptism..." 18. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes , pp. 122, 1299 & 1463."Geneviève SERREAU de SAINT-AUBIN, daughter of Jean & Marguerite BOILEAU, born/baptized (Register of Québec) on the 7/9 Aug 1667. Sponsors: Xyste CHARRIER dit Mignard & Genevieve MACARD (wife of Charles BAZIRE)." 19. Programme de recherche en démographie historique , No. 58172, Internet, http://www.genealogie.umontreal.ca/en/leprdh.htm.Individual information."Genevieve SERREAU, daughter of Jean SERREAU STAUBIN & Marguerite BOISLEAU, born 7 Aug 1667, baptized at Québec on 9 Aug 1667 by Henri DEBERNIERES, priest. Sponsors: Xiste CARIER MIGNARD, officer of the Carignan Regiment, & Genevieve MACOART, wife of Charles BASIRE." 20. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes , pp. 122, 1299 & 1463."Genevieve died after the 1739 census." 21. D'Amboise, Marius, "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)", p. 2."Cites a document from the library of Amboise, classified GG59." 22. D'Amboise, Marius, "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)", p. 2. ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hey Paul, I meant to reply to Karen & not the list. Sorry! thanks-- Liz ________________________________ From: "KATheriot@aol.com" <KATheriot@aol.com> To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 2:26:54 PM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Landry, Valentin tree questions First Generation 1. Barthelemy BERGERON dit d'Amboise was born1 about 1663 in Amboise, Touraine, Indre-et-Loire, France. He was christened2,3,4,5 on 23 May 1663 in Amboise, Touraine, Indre-et-Loire, France. He died6 before 1737 in Ste-Anne-des-Pays-Bas, [Fredericton], New Brunswick, Canada. Barthelemy immigrated7,8 in Sep 1684 to Quebec, , Quebec, Canada. He signed a will9 on 7 Jan 1690 in Quebec, , Quebec, Canada. He resided10 in 1694/1704 in Boston, , MA. He was counted in a census11 in 1707 in Port Royal, , , Acadia. He was counted in a census12 in 1714 in Port Royal, , , Acadia. He was employed13,14 as Merchant. He was counted in a census15 in 1731 in Pointe St-Anne, , New Brunswick, Canada. BIRTH-OCCUPATION-MARRIAGE-CHILDREN: Stephen A. White, DICTIONNAIRE GENEALOGIQUE DES FAMILLES ACADIENNES; 1636-1714; Moncton, New Brunswick, Centre d'Etudes Acadiennes, 1999, 2 vols.; p. 122; own copy. #1: [No parents are given for him.] BIRTH: Article "Bergeron dit d'Amboise" on Internet web site by Aline Cormier at www.acadian-roots. com/genealogy-bergeron.html There was a birth record found by a genealogist in France named Jean Marie Germe of one Barthelemy Bergeron baptized May 23, 1663 in St-Denis in Amboise, France, son of Rene Bergeron and Anne Dugault. Again there is no proof that Rene and Anne Dugast were our Barthelemy's parents, although Anne Dugast's parents came from Nantes and Barthelemy's son took the dit name of Michel dit Nantes." PARENTS: Posting by Larry Bergeron at website on Bergeron descendants, at: http://groups.google.com/ group/bergeron-damboise/browse_thread/thread/f7ee51987aa54144 I do not think that his parents are Antoine and Claudette Scarron mainly because of the lack of a birth/ baptism record. When the baptism record was found naming Rene and Anne Dagault as the parents of Barthelemy Bergeron I felt that our search was over we have found his true parents at last. But now we have to prove that this Barthelemy is the one that married Genevieve Serreau dit St Aubin and therefore our true ancestor. I agree with Aline Cormier in that we must go to any length to find the true facts. We have checked with the Archives at Amboise and had no luck there so our next step is Nantes. We also want to try and find some kind of Military record where Barthelemy joined the "Troupe de la Marine" that should also tell us who his parents were. Posting by "Marius" (marius.damboise@gmail.com) in Nov 2007: In 1720-1760, Ste-Anne-de-la-rivière-St-Jean, to-day Fredericton, was the center of French Acadia. The old Acadia was under English domination since the Utrecht treaty (1713). Our ancestors were in based in Old Acadia, mainly Port-Royal for Barthelemy's family for about 20 years. Then, we have to understand that Barthelemy's family refused the allegiance oath and moved on the other side of what is today Fundy bay, in Ste-Anne. Ste-Anne-de-la-rivière-St-Jean (also known as Ste-Anne-des-Pays-Bas) was "founded" by Gabriel Godin-Bellefontaine, and the Bergeron family was one of the first families to join the Godin's. Those families were closely associated for about 100 years. Three of the daughters of Barthelemy and one of his sons married four children of Gabriel Godin. These families lived in peace in Ste-Anne and so far as we can judge, were relatively wealthy. But the village was atrociously destroyed in 1759. Many inhabitants were killed or made prisoners. This episode has been vividly described by Fidèle Thériault in "Le Petit Courrier" vol. 11, no. 1 (1995). Rich Bergeron has nicely translated the text into English. !PARENTS: E-mail posting at <ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> #190 on 27 Apr 1999 by Tomlin (boandbg@pancomlnet). Barthelemy's parents were Antoine [sic] BERGERON married Claudette SCARRON [sic]. (Reference: Adrien Bergeron, LE GRAND ARRANGEMENT DES ACADIENS AU QUEBEC). [Stephen WHITE notes that this article has certain "imprecisions."] BIRTH-IMMIGRATION-RESIDENCES-MARRIAGE-CHILDREN: Bona Arsenault, Histoire et Généalogie des Acadiens, pp. 427-429 (Port Royal). See long note there. Arrived in Canada in 1685 as "volontaire de la marine" (volunteer seaman). Lived in the lower part of Québec from 1685 to 1690, at Pierre LEZEAU's, the shipmaster. He accompanied Pierre LeMoyne d'Iberville on most of his campaigns "dont celle de" Hudson Bay. Arrived in Acadia with d'Iberville in 1696. Married around 1695 [?] to Genevieve SERREAU dit Saint-Aubin, born in Québec, the widow of Jacques PETITPAS. In 1704 he was made prisoner with all the members of his family, at the time of the attack of Colonel Church against Port Royal, and was taken away into captivity at Boston, where he was kept as a hostage. After his liberation he returned to Port Royal where he lived in the sector "du Cap," near the fort, and navigated for his living. He owned a schooner, and made trading trips between Port Royal, Les Mines (Grand Pré and Pisiguit), Beaubassin, Chipoudy, Petitcoudiac and Sainte-Anne-du-Pays-Bas. Around 1730 he moved to settle at the riviere Saint-Jean, in New Brunswick, where he was one of the pioneers of Sainte-Anne-du-Pays-Bas, today known as Frédericton. Several of his descendants tooks the name of DAMBOISE. BAPTISM-SPONSOR: PRDH, http://www.genealogie.umontreal.ca/en/member/Acte.asp?33626 Barthelemy BERGERON acted as godfather at L'Ange-Gardien, Quebec, Canada, on 15 Feb 1691 at the baptism of Anne GARNAUT, born 13 Feb 1691, daughter of Francois GARNAUT & Louise KAREAU. Anne BRISSON was the godmother. C. GAULTIER was the Curate (record No. 33626). MILITARY: Adrien Bergeron, "Aux origines acadiennes: Barthelemy Bergeron, héros méconnu," [part 1] in LES MÉMOIRES DE LA SOCIÉTÉ GÉNÉALOGIQUE CANADIENNE-FRANCAISE; vol. XX, no.3 (Jul- Aug-Sep 1969, issue 101); pp. 158-173. In French, details the history of this man in Acadia, including his incarceration with his family in Boston in 1704. Continued in part 2 in same journal, vol. XX, no. 4 (Oct-Nov-Dec 1969, issue 102); pp. 201-219. MILITARY: The Schenectady (Corlaer) New York Massacre 8 February 1690 <http://www. schenectadyhistory.org/resources/patent/09.html> On the night of 8 February 1690, Barthelemy Bergeron D'Amboise was one of the surviving 114 frenchman and 96 native-american "Injuns" that descended from Quebec in a murderous raid upon this fortified but unguarded New York village. They also planned to attack Fort Orange (Albany NY) but decided not to split their forces. MARRIAGE: Janet Jehn, CORRECTIONS & ADDITIONS TO ARSENAULT'S HISTOIRE ET GENEALOGIE DES ACADIENS; 1550-1850; Covington, KY, author, 1988; p. 3 (reference to p. 428); own copy. Barthelémy's wife Genevieve SERREAU dit SAINT-AUBIN was not the widow of Jacques PETITPAS [sic]; this was her sister Marguerite. (Reference "Coll. des Documents Inedits" published by LE CANADA-FRANCAISE, vol. 3; Quebec, 1890; p. 167.) [Stephen A. White's Dictionnaire disagrees with this.] Barthelemy married16,17 Genevieve SERREAU de Saint-Aubin daughter of Sieur Jean SERREAU de Saint-Aubin and Marguerite BOILEAU de la Gouppilliere about 1695 in Port Royal, , , Acadia. Genevieve was born18 on 7 Aug 1667 in , , Quebec, Canada. She was christened19 on 9 Aug 1667 in Quebec, , Quebec, Canada. She died20 after 1739. Second Generation 2. Rene BERGERON II was born21 on 4 May 1642/1643 in , , , France. He married Anne DAGAULT about 1662 in , , , France. 3. Anne DAGAULT was christened on 6 Aug 1646 in Amboise, Touraine, Indre-et-Loire, France. She died22 in 1701. Third Generation 4. Rene BERGERON .Rene married Denise PHILBERT. 5. Denise PHILBERT . 6. Jean DAGAULT .Jean married Martine HABERT. 7. Martine HABERT . Appendix A - Sources 1. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes (2 vols., Moncton, New Brunswick: Centre d'Études Acadiennes, 1999), p. 122, BERGERON #1, Karen Theriot Reader, 2045 Green Valley Road, Corralitos CA 95076-8618 USA."Born in Amboise [France, no parents given], a "commerçant" (merchant)."No date given for birth. 2. BMS & NMD de Sauzon 1617 - 1901, Internet, http://www.escompte.fr/denis/sauzon/index.html."Baptism at the Church of St-Denis, son of René BERGERON & Anne DAGAULT. His grandparents are listed here [in my genealogy] as René BERGERON & Denise PHILBERT; Jean DAGAULT & Catherine AUBERT."I found the baptism of Barthelemy Bergeron in 1974 in the library of Amboise. I spent many days searching through their records before I finally, on a bright sunny morning, turned the page to the baptism act on left, top of the page. I examined the records from 1600 roughly to 1710 and I did not find any other Bergeron (or D'Amboise, by the way) named <<Barthelemy >>. Furthermore, the time bracket that I first considered for Barthelemy's birth was 1655-1665 based on the time of his arrival in Canada and the supposed age for his marriage according to Father Adrien Bergeron. I have examined the records of all of the parishes in Amboise and none but St-Denis contained an act for Barthelemy. I was therefore and still am convinced that the act found was that of Barthelemy, our ancestor. The act is that of his baptism, not of his birth. However, it is very likely that he was born around the day he was baptized, since this was the common practice at the time ."In the document "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)" Marius D'Amboise states that during a search in the library at Amboise in Jul 1989 he found the "Répertoire des naissances de la paroisse St-Denis d'Amboise 1626-1740." On p. 120 it indicated that the father of Barthélemy was René Bergeron. This document, classified GG176B, mentioned the birth [sic, baptism] in May 1663 of Barthélemy Bergeron, son of René and Anne Dagault. Examining this repertoire gave no other child called Barthélemy Bergeron. Moreover, his examination of the baptismal acts from the other parishes of Amboise (le Bout-des-Ponts, Notre-Dame-en-Grèves, and St-Florentin) did not show any other baptism of a Barthélemy Bergeron from the beginning of the 17th century to the beginning of the 18th."At <www.damboise.net/fiches/fiche50.html#1258>. 3. BMS & NMD de Sauzon 1617 - 1901."A genealogical researcher in France by the name of Jean-Marie Germe has actually found a baptismal certificate for Barthélemy Bergeron d’Amboise, <http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=24018881&postID=4239769750458990356> who was baptized at Saint Denis church in Amboise on May 23, 1663. He was the son of René Bergeron and Anne Dagault and his godparents were Barthélemy Bertail and Gabrielle Saicher. (Cites: AGCF98c, p. 13 (which has a photocopy of the baptismal certificate), and AGCF99, p. 3.)Note: AGCF= Arrêté du Gouvernement de la Communauté Française (Decree of the Government of the French Community, Belgium).""Three Acadian Generations" by Richard J. Bergeron, at <http>//3ag.blogspot.com/. 4. Bergeron-damboise@googlegroups.com, http://groups.google.com/group/bergeron-damboise?hl=en."Concerning Barthelemy, some of you have mentioned the existence of "two" Barthelemy born in Amboise. I can assure you that there is only one, baptized May 23, 1663, son of René and Anne Dagault. I spend many days searching the old registers of Amboise in 1974, 1976, 1984 and 1989. I found the "baptistère" of Barthelemy in 1974 and although I searched the registers of all parishes of Amboise between 1640 and 1710, I found no other Barthelemy. There is no Barthelemy, son of Antoine. In addition, in 1989, I found a register which gave an index of all "baptistères" registered in Amboise. This index, according to the librarian was probably established at the time of the French Revolution. In this index, there is only one Barthelemy, son of René and Anne Dagault. Therefore, based on the most likelihood principle, one must assume that our ancestor was the son of René and Anne Dagault. Finally, note that in France, before the Revolution, as well as in Québec until recently, the "baptistères" acts were the official birth acts and there is no other official acts. The priest had to write two acts: one for the Church, the other one was registered every year with the state. I believe, although I have not yet been able to establish it, that Barthelemy was linked to Antoine, a distant cousin... They are in my plans for my next visit in Amboise. I think it would be interesting to find an act for the engagement of Barthelemy as a "volontaire de la marine" however, I doubt that this would provide information so far as who were his parents. I have read many engagements contracts and very few of them give this information. But, one never knows... The one act that every one would wish to have is the marriage. Unfortunately, no one has been succesful in finding this act between Barthelemy and Genevieve. At this point, we have been looking in Québec and in Acadia. But my recent thought brings me to think that they may have married in Boston. This idea is shared by our cousin Joseph, from NH. I have no idea, however, where that information could be in the USA. I also have another hypothesis: they could have married in Nantes. In fact, it was not uncommon that some Acadians went to Nantes to marry."Posted by "Marius" (marius.damboise@gmail.com) on the BERGERON newsgroup in Oct 2007. 5. D'Amboise, Marius, "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)", 2009, Internet, www.damboise-gen.ca/documents/BarthelemyBergeron.pdf."Contains a copy of the actual baptismal document found in Amboise by the author in 1974. Barthélemy Bergeron, baptized on 23 May 1663, son of René Bergeron & Anne Dagault. Sponsors: Barthélemy Bairau [sic] & Gabrielle Saiches, who both signed." 6. Bergeron-damboise@googlegroups.com."From: B.-M. Thériault To: larrybergeron@earthlink.net Cc: Yvonne McLaughlin Sent: 10/29/2007 2:16:26 PM Subject: Pointe Sainte Anne Cemetry Mr. Lawrence, I was pleased to read from a descendant of the Bergeron family from Pointe-Sainte-Anne. Your timing of requesting information on the site of the cemetery is somewhat appropriate since the Société d'histoire de la rivière Saint-Jean (SHRSJ) wants to commemorate the 250e ann. of the destruction of the village in 2009. Over the years, the Société d'histoire has tried many times to have the site recongnised in a variety of ways. As part of our plan of activities for the year we want to examine, again, the feasability to have the site of the village recognized as a protected site either by the provincial government or by the federal government. I'll get back to you with more details on the activities the Société d'histoire has undertaken regarding the site of the village & its cemetery. In 1993, the Société d'histoire produced a small booklet dedicated to the history of Pointe-Sainte-Anne since there was, and still are, disagreement on who now owns the land. If you provide me with an address we could send you a copy (an English version) of that booklet which I think you would find most interesting. Meanwhile you could also, if you can, provide us with more details on your ancesters at Pointe-Sainte-Anne. If you do visit Fredericton next summer, we could arrange for a meeting. Bernard-M. Thériault President Société d'histoire de la rivière Saint-Jean." 7. BMS & NMD de Sauzon 1617 - 1901."Barthélemy arrived in New France between 1680 & 1684, with the first traces of him at Québec in 1684. The marquis de DENONVILLE arrived in Canada with 600 soldiers in 1684 as Governor, replacing M. de LA BARRE.On 11 Jul 1684 COLBERT wrote that the king was sending 300 soldiers on "L'Émérillon," which embarked on 13 Aug, forming five companies of 60 men each. They arrived in Québec around the end of Sep 1684."http://www.damboise.net/fiches/fiche50.html#f1258. 8. Mémoires de la Société-Généalogique Canadienne-Française , vol. 20, no. 3 (1969), p. 160 , Margaret Walker, Santa Cruz CA 95060."Article by Father Adrien Bergeron. Barthélemy would have arrived in Québec in Sep 1684 as a member of the first company Franche de la Marine, associated with D'Iberville. On 5 Nov 1684 the notary Michel Fillion wrote the terms of the contract, at the home of Jean Picart, merchant of Quebec. Barthélemy bergeron was listed as a "boullanger" (baker). He would be part of an association for five months, until 1 Jun 1685, when profits would be shared, He would have been a "voluntaire du Roy" rather than a soldier."Also vol. 20, no. 4 (1969), p. 201. 9. D'Amboise, Marius, "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)", p. 5."In 1690, before a risky expedition "aux anglois" (to the English), Barthélemy Bergeron, a "vollontaire" living in Quebec, made a will before the notary Gilles Rageot. Item: give to Pierre LEZEAU, ship's master, living in Quebec, the sum of three hundred livres (pounds), for the good friendship he has for him;Item: give to the poor of the general hospital of this city another sum of three hundred pounds. Pierre Lezeau had eleven hundred fifty pounds on hand. The surplus was to be given to make prayers to God for the repose of his sould after his death." 10. ACADIAN Digest, www.acadian@rootsweb.com."Barthelemy was captured twice: 1694 and 1704-06. The latter time was when he had his whole family with him and during this time a daughter was born."Posting by Richard Bergeron in Mar 2008. 11. Margaret C. Melanson, Melanson Story, The: Acadian Family, Acadian Times, Toronto: Author, 2003, p. 87, Karen Theriot Reader, 2045 Green Valley Road, Corralitos CA 95076-8618 USA."The house of Barthélemy BERGERON is shown on the map of the 1707 census, just southwest of the village of Port Royal, next door to Abraham DUGAS." 12. ACADIAN-CAJUN@rootsweb.com , Internet."DAMBOUC [sic, this is a mistranscription, should be DAMBOISE], living with a wife, three sons and three daughters."Posting by Rich Bergeron (rgergeron1@mn.rr.com) in Dec 2004. 13. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes , p. 122."Commerçant (he was a merchant)." 14. Thomas J. Laforest, Our French-Canadian Ancestors (various), vol. XIX."Barthélemy BERGERON was a soldier in the first Compagnie Franche de la Marine, a companion of Iberville. Navigator, ship's captain and privateer, he sailed all of his life in the area of the Bay of Fundy."Covers many names, including Andre BERGERON, in Chapter 5. 15. Bergeron-damboise@googlegroups.com."He was mentioned in the 1731 census as "The old Bergeron d'Amboise" (he would have been about 65 then)."Posting by Aline in Sep 2007. 16. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes , pp. 122 & 1463."Geneviève was a widow of Jacques PETITPAS."No place given for marriage. 17. ACADIAN Digest."We do not know for sure how Barthélémy first met Geneviève, the younger daughter of Jean Serreau de St-Aubin and Marguerite Boyleau, but we can weave together some intriguing strands of information. Fr. Bergeron wondered if Barthélémy and Geneviève might have met at the time of delivering Jean Serreau's family from their captivity in Boston. We have no idea when they first met or what transpired on those meeting(s), for Geneviève was probably married at the time to Jacques Petitpas. She had given birth to two sons, Jean (born 1691) and Nicolas. But Petitpas had died in 1694. Fr. Adrien Bergeron wrote: "the wife of Barthélémy was certainly Geneviève Serreau de Saint-Aubin, but, contrary to what Bona Arsenault erroneously tells, not the widow of Jacques Petitpas; the latter, in fact, had married the older sister of Geneviève, Marguerite." On the other hand, Stephen White, acclaimed genealogist at the Centre d'Etudes Acadienne at the Université de Moncton, who supposedly double- and triple-checked every fact before publishing his two-volume Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes, insists that Geneviève was indeed the widow of Jacques Petitpas. So, who are we to believe? We stared at a crucial piece of information for years until Joe Damboise of Grafton, NH, pointed out that in the diaries of his expedition in 1704, Colonel Church mentions finding "De Boisses' wife, who had formerly been Colonel Church's prisoner, and carried to Boston, but returned; who seemed very glad to see him. She had with her, two sons, that were near grown men." Joe pointed out what should have been obvious to us: these "two sons, that were near grown men" had to be her sons Jean and Nicolas Petitpas, now in their early teens, nearly grown men in those days. About 1695 D'Iberville was set to lead another expedition against Newfoundland, but royal bureaucracy balked at his military expenditures. He had to go to France to argue his cause, and even then funding was not quick to come. As Fr. Bergeron wrote, he could no longer keep around him his 18 to 20 favorites. But as far as Barthélémy was concerned, he was no longer associated with D'Iberville. Besides, at this time he was being held in a prison in Boston. Fr. Bergeron wrote that in 1695, "without doubt, his betrothed Geneviève Serreau de Saint-Aubin had taken the opportunity of the 'difficulties of d'Iberville' to finally convince Barthélémy that the hour had come!" We do not know if Barthélémy continued to sail with Baptiste after his marriage. Joe Damboise brought another very interesting point to my attention. In analyzing the governor's letters, we see that Villebon was notified on December 9, 1694 that the English wanted to exchange a sailor of Baptiste's crew for an English ship-master that Villebon was holding. The exchange actually occurred on June 24, 1695. Thus it is firmly established for us that Barthélémy Bergeron D'Amboise was in prison in Boston, at the very minimum, for almost seven months. We also know that Benjamin Church captured members of the Serreau de St.-Aubin family in 1692. According to the Dictionary of Canadian Biography: "in a letter that Saint-Aubin sent to Boston in 1695 mention is made of a ransom of 30 livres for his daughter." The most logical daughter would be Geneviève, captured in 1692 with her husband at the time, Jacques Petitpas. Thus we have Barthélémy and Geneviève, the widow of Petitpas, in prison in Boston at the same time. How do we know they were together? Their first child was Barthélémy II, baptized at Île d'Orléans (Québec) on 1 January 1696. (The baby's godparents were Michel Chartier and his grandmother, Marguerite Boisleau.) We have no idea why the family was in Québec at this time. We do know for facts that: 1.) Petitpas had died in 1694, 2.) Barthélémy Bergeron D'Amboise was not freed from Boston until late June of 1695, and 3.) Barthelemy II was baptized on 1 January 1696, meaning, of course, that he had been born before then. Calculations easily made show that Barthélémy and Geneviève HAD to have been together for Barthélémy II to be conceived and born before the following New Year's Day. And both Barthélémy and Geneviève were in Boston prisons when son Barthélémy had to have been conceived. Logically they must have been together in the same prison. Fr. Bergeron believes that Barthélémy and Geneviève were almost certainly married at Port Royal. There were no chapels or missions yet at any of the places where they would later live. Their marriage date was probably some time in 1695. Fr. Bergeron believed that no marriage certificate survived the later wars and deportations: "For, if my 'historical notes' are exact, the first parish Régistre of Port-Royal, ... covers only the years going from 1702 to 1715...." But the fact that they were in Québec for the baptism..." 18. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes , pp. 122, 1299 & 1463."Geneviève SERREAU de SAINT-AUBIN, daughter of Jean & Marguerite BOILEAU, born/baptized (Register of Québec) on the 7/9 Aug 1667. Sponsors: Xyste CHARRIER dit Mignard & Genevieve MACARD (wife of Charles BAZIRE)." 19. Programme de recherche en démographie historique , No. 58172, Internet, http://www.genealogie.umontreal.ca/en/leprdh.htm.Individual information."Genevieve SERREAU, daughter of Jean SERREAU STAUBIN & Marguerite BOISLEAU, born 7 Aug 1667, baptized at Québec on 9 Aug 1667 by Henri DEBERNIERES, priest. Sponsors: Xiste CARIER MIGNARD, officer of the Carignan Regiment, & Genevieve MACOART, wife of Charles BASIRE." 20. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes , pp. 122, 1299 & 1463."Genevieve died after the 1739 census." 21. D'Amboise, Marius, "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)", p. 2."Cites a document from the library of Amboise, classified GG59." 22. D'Amboise, Marius, "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)", p. 2. ------------------------------- To check our Archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/acadian/ ------------------------------- To subscribe to the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You will receive a confirmation e-mail to try & stop "machine" enrollment spam. Give it the "Name" you would like us to call you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ACADIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Karen, may I just say: You rock!!! :) BTW, I have consulted your Rootsweb site many times. We are prob. related several ways. My main Cajun connection is through my grandmother, Elia Legere Hall. Her parents were Constant Legere & Marie Octavie McBride. (Constant goes back to Jacques Leger dit Larosette's line) I don't have a Rootsweb tree (though should put it online sometime), but I have a private online tree on Ancestry and I could send you reports if you ever want info on the Legeres. Just wanted to say hello--I'm also on the Acadian-Cajun & AFC lists. Liz Liz Hall Morgan Los Angeles, CA (Sulphur, LA native) --------------------------------------------- My Big Fat Cajun/Irish/Scottish/English/German/French/Southern Family Blog http://mybigfatfamilyblog.blogspot.com ________________________________ From: "KATheriot@aol.com" <KATheriot@aol.com> To: acadian@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 2:26:54 PM Subject: Re: [ACADIAN] Landry, Valentin tree questions First Generation 1. Barthelemy BERGERON dit d'Amboise was born1 about 1663 in Amboise, Touraine, Indre-et-Loire, France. He was christened2,3,4,5 on 23 May 1663 in Amboise, Touraine, Indre-et-Loire, France. He died6 before 1737 in Ste-Anne-des-Pays-Bas, [Fredericton], New Brunswick, Canada. Barthelemy immigrated7,8 in Sep 1684 to Quebec, , Quebec, Canada. He signed a will9 on 7 Jan 1690 in Quebec, , Quebec, Canada. He resided10 in 1694/1704 in Boston, , MA. He was counted in a census11 in 1707 in Port Royal, , , Acadia. He was counted in a census12 in 1714 in Port Royal, , , Acadia. He was employed13,14 as Merchant. He was counted in a census15 in 1731 in Pointe St-Anne, , New Brunswick, Canada. BIRTH-OCCUPATION-MARRIAGE-CHILDREN: Stephen A. White, DICTIONNAIRE GENEALOGIQUE DES FAMILLES ACADIENNES; 1636-1714; Moncton, New Brunswick, Centre d'Etudes Acadiennes, 1999, 2 vols.; p. 122; own copy. #1: [No parents are given for him.] BIRTH: Article "Bergeron dit d'Amboise" on Internet web site by Aline Cormier at www.acadian-roots. com/genealogy-bergeron.html There was a birth record found by a genealogist in France named Jean Marie Germe of one Barthelemy Bergeron baptized May 23, 1663 in St-Denis in Amboise, France, son of Rene Bergeron and Anne Dugault. Again there is no proof that Rene and Anne Dugast were our Barthelemy's parents, although Anne Dugast's parents came from Nantes and Barthelemy's son took the dit name of Michel dit Nantes." PARENTS: Posting by Larry Bergeron at website on Bergeron descendants, at: http://groups.google.com/ group/bergeron-damboise/browse_thread/thread/f7ee51987aa54144 I do not think that his parents are Antoine and Claudette Scarron mainly because of the lack of a birth/ baptism record. When the baptism record was found naming Rene and Anne Dagault as the parents of Barthelemy Bergeron I felt that our search was over we have found his true parents at last. But now we have to prove that this Barthelemy is the one that married Genevieve Serreau dit St Aubin and therefore our true ancestor. I agree with Aline Cormier in that we must go to any length to find the true facts. We have checked with the Archives at Amboise and had no luck there so our next step is Nantes. We also want to try and find some kind of Military record where Barthelemy joined the "Troupe de la Marine" that should also tell us who his parents were. Posting by "Marius" (marius.damboise@gmail.com) in Nov 2007: In 1720-1760, Ste-Anne-de-la-rivière-St-Jean, to-day Fredericton, was the center of French Acadia. The old Acadia was under English domination since the Utrecht treaty (1713). Our ancestors were in based in Old Acadia, mainly Port-Royal for Barthelemy's family for about 20 years. Then, we have to understand that Barthelemy's family refused the allegiance oath and moved on the other side of what is today Fundy bay, in Ste-Anne. Ste-Anne-de-la-rivière-St-Jean (also known as Ste-Anne-des-Pays-Bas) was "founded" by Gabriel Godin-Bellefontaine, and the Bergeron family was one of the first families to join the Godin's. Those families were closely associated for about 100 years. Three of the daughters of Barthelemy and one of his sons married four children of Gabriel Godin. These families lived in peace in Ste-Anne and so far as we can judge, were relatively wealthy. But the village was atrociously destroyed in 1759. Many inhabitants were killed or made prisoners. This episode has been vividly described by Fidèle Thériault in "Le Petit Courrier" vol. 11, no. 1 (1995). Rich Bergeron has nicely translated the text into English. !PARENTS: E-mail posting at <ACADIAN-CAJUN-L@rootsweb.com> #190 on 27 Apr 1999 by Tomlin (boandbg@pancomlnet). Barthelemy's parents were Antoine [sic] BERGERON married Claudette SCARRON [sic]. (Reference: Adrien Bergeron, LE GRAND ARRANGEMENT DES ACADIENS AU QUEBEC). [Stephen WHITE notes that this article has certain "imprecisions."] BIRTH-IMMIGRATION-RESIDENCES-MARRIAGE-CHILDREN: Bona Arsenault, Histoire et Généalogie des Acadiens, pp. 427-429 (Port Royal). See long note there. Arrived in Canada in 1685 as "volontaire de la marine" (volunteer seaman). Lived in the lower part of Québec from 1685 to 1690, at Pierre LEZEAU's, the shipmaster. He accompanied Pierre LeMoyne d'Iberville on most of his campaigns "dont celle de" Hudson Bay. Arrived in Acadia with d'Iberville in 1696. Married around 1695 [?] to Genevieve SERREAU dit Saint-Aubin, born in Québec, the widow of Jacques PETITPAS. In 1704 he was made prisoner with all the members of his family, at the time of the attack of Colonel Church against Port Royal, and was taken away into captivity at Boston, where he was kept as a hostage. After his liberation he returned to Port Royal where he lived in the sector "du Cap," near the fort, and navigated for his living. He owned a schooner, and made trading trips between Port Royal, Les Mines (Grand Pré and Pisiguit), Beaubassin, Chipoudy, Petitcoudiac and Sainte-Anne-du-Pays-Bas. Around 1730 he moved to settle at the riviere Saint-Jean, in New Brunswick, where he was one of the pioneers of Sainte-Anne-du-Pays-Bas, today known as Frédericton. Several of his descendants tooks the name of DAMBOISE. BAPTISM-SPONSOR: PRDH, http://www.genealogie.umontreal.ca/en/member/Acte.asp?33626 Barthelemy BERGERON acted as godfather at L'Ange-Gardien, Quebec, Canada, on 15 Feb 1691 at the baptism of Anne GARNAUT, born 13 Feb 1691, daughter of Francois GARNAUT & Louise KAREAU. Anne BRISSON was the godmother. C. GAULTIER was the Curate (record No. 33626). MILITARY: Adrien Bergeron, "Aux origines acadiennes: Barthelemy Bergeron, héros méconnu," [part 1] in LES MÉMOIRES DE LA SOCIÉTÉ GÉNÉALOGIQUE CANADIENNE-FRANCAISE; vol. XX, no.3 (Jul- Aug-Sep 1969, issue 101); pp. 158-173. In French, details the history of this man in Acadia, including his incarceration with his family in Boston in 1704. Continued in part 2 in same journal, vol. XX, no. 4 (Oct-Nov-Dec 1969, issue 102); pp. 201-219. MILITARY: The Schenectady (Corlaer) New York Massacre 8 February 1690 <http://www. schenectadyhistory.org/resources/patent/09.html> On the night of 8 February 1690, Barthelemy Bergeron D'Amboise was one of the surviving 114 frenchman and 96 native-american "Injuns" that descended from Quebec in a murderous raid upon this fortified but unguarded New York village. They also planned to attack Fort Orange (Albany NY) but decided not to split their forces. MARRIAGE: Janet Jehn, CORRECTIONS & ADDITIONS TO ARSENAULT'S HISTOIRE ET GENEALOGIE DES ACADIENS; 1550-1850; Covington, KY, author, 1988; p. 3 (reference to p. 428); own copy. Barthelémy's wife Genevieve SERREAU dit SAINT-AUBIN was not the widow of Jacques PETITPAS [sic]; this was her sister Marguerite. (Reference "Coll. des Documents Inedits" published by LE CANADA-FRANCAISE, vol. 3; Quebec, 1890; p. 167.) [Stephen A. White's Dictionnaire disagrees with this.] Barthelemy married16,17 Genevieve SERREAU de Saint-Aubin daughter of Sieur Jean SERREAU de Saint-Aubin and Marguerite BOILEAU de la Gouppilliere about 1695 in Port Royal, , , Acadia. Genevieve was born18 on 7 Aug 1667 in , , Quebec, Canada. She was christened19 on 9 Aug 1667 in Quebec, , Quebec, Canada. She died20 after 1739. Second Generation 2. Rene BERGERON II was born21 on 4 May 1642/1643 in , , , France. He married Anne DAGAULT about 1662 in , , , France. 3. Anne DAGAULT was christened on 6 Aug 1646 in Amboise, Touraine, Indre-et-Loire, France. She died22 in 1701. Third Generation 4. Rene BERGERON .Rene married Denise PHILBERT. 5. Denise PHILBERT . 6. Jean DAGAULT .Jean married Martine HABERT. 7. Martine HABERT . Appendix A - Sources 1. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes (2 vols., Moncton, New Brunswick: Centre d'Études Acadiennes, 1999), p. 122, BERGERON #1, Karen Theriot Reader, 2045 Green Valley Road, Corralitos CA 95076-8618 USA."Born in Amboise [France, no parents given], a "commerçant" (merchant)."No date given for birth. 2. BMS & NMD de Sauzon 1617 - 1901, Internet, http://www.escompte.fr/denis/sauzon/index.html."Baptism at the Church of St-Denis, son of René BERGERON & Anne DAGAULT. His grandparents are listed here [in my genealogy] as René BERGERON & Denise PHILBERT; Jean DAGAULT & Catherine AUBERT."I found the baptism of Barthelemy Bergeron in 1974 in the library of Amboise. I spent many days searching through their records before I finally, on a bright sunny morning, turned the page to the baptism act on left, top of the page. I examined the records from 1600 roughly to 1710 and I did not find any other Bergeron (or D'Amboise, by the way) named <<Barthelemy >>. Furthermore, the time bracket that I first considered for Barthelemy's birth was 1655-1665 based on the time of his arrival in Canada and the supposed age for his marriage according to Father Adrien Bergeron. I have examined the records of all of the parishes in Amboise and none but St-Denis contained an act for Barthelemy. I was therefore and still am convinced that the act found was that of Barthelemy, our ancestor. The act is that of his baptism, not of his birth. However, it is very likely that he was born around the day he was baptized, since this was the common practice at the time ."In the document "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)" Marius D'Amboise states that during a search in the library at Amboise in Jul 1989 he found the "Répertoire des naissances de la paroisse St-Denis d'Amboise 1626-1740." On p. 120 it indicated that the father of Barthélemy was René Bergeron. This document, classified GG176B, mentioned the birth [sic, baptism] in May 1663 of Barthélemy Bergeron, son of René and Anne Dagault. Examining this repertoire gave no other child called Barthélemy Bergeron. Moreover, his examination of the baptismal acts from the other parishes of Amboise (le Bout-des-Ponts, Notre-Dame-en-Grèves, and St-Florentin) did not show any other baptism of a Barthélemy Bergeron from the beginning of the 17th century to the beginning of the 18th."At <www.damboise.net/fiches/fiche50.html#1258>. 3. BMS & NMD de Sauzon 1617 - 1901."A genealogical researcher in France by the name of Jean-Marie Germe has actually found a baptismal certificate for Barthélemy Bergeron d’Amboise, <http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=24018881&postID=4239769750458990356> who was baptized at Saint Denis church in Amboise on May 23, 1663. He was the son of René Bergeron and Anne Dagault and his godparents were Barthélemy Bertail and Gabrielle Saicher. (Cites: AGCF98c, p. 13 (which has a photocopy of the baptismal certificate), and AGCF99, p. 3.)Note: AGCF= Arrêté du Gouvernement de la Communauté Française (Decree of the Government of the French Community, Belgium).""Three Acadian Generations" by Richard J. Bergeron, at <http>//3ag.blogspot.com/. 4. Bergeron-damboise@googlegroups.com, http://groups.google.com/group/bergeron-damboise?hl=en."Concerning Barthelemy, some of you have mentioned the existence of "two" Barthelemy born in Amboise. I can assure you that there is only one, baptized May 23, 1663, son of René and Anne Dagault. I spend many days searching the old registers of Amboise in 1974, 1976, 1984 and 1989. I found the "baptistère" of Barthelemy in 1974 and although I searched the registers of all parishes of Amboise between 1640 and 1710, I found no other Barthelemy. There is no Barthelemy, son of Antoine. In addition, in 1989, I found a register which gave an index of all "baptistères" registered in Amboise. This index, according to the librarian was probably established at the time of the French Revolution. In this index, there is only one Barthelemy, son of René and Anne Dagault. Therefore, based on the most likelihood principle, one must assume that our ancestor was the son of René and Anne Dagault. Finally, note that in France, before the Revolution, as well as in Québec until recently, the "baptistères" acts were the official birth acts and there is no other official acts. The priest had to write two acts: one for the Church, the other one was registered every year with the state. I believe, although I have not yet been able to establish it, that Barthelemy was linked to Antoine, a distant cousin... They are in my plans for my next visit in Amboise. I think it would be interesting to find an act for the engagement of Barthelemy as a "volontaire de la marine" however, I doubt that this would provide information so far as who were his parents. I have read many engagements contracts and very few of them give this information. But, one never knows... The one act that every one would wish to have is the marriage. Unfortunately, no one has been succesful in finding this act between Barthelemy and Genevieve. At this point, we have been looking in Québec and in Acadia. But my recent thought brings me to think that they may have married in Boston. This idea is shared by our cousin Joseph, from NH. I have no idea, however, where that information could be in the USA. I also have another hypothesis: they could have married in Nantes. In fact, it was not uncommon that some Acadians went to Nantes to marry."Posted by "Marius" (marius.damboise@gmail.com) on the BERGERON newsgroup in Oct 2007. 5. D'Amboise, Marius, "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)", 2009, Internet, www.damboise-gen.ca/documents/BarthelemyBergeron.pdf."Contains a copy of the actual baptismal document found in Amboise by the author in 1974. Barthélemy Bergeron, baptized on 23 May 1663, son of René Bergeron & Anne Dagault. Sponsors: Barthélemy Bairau [sic] & Gabrielle Saiches, who both signed." 6. Bergeron-damboise@googlegroups.com."From: B.-M. Thériault To: larrybergeron@earthlink.net Cc: Yvonne McLaughlin Sent: 10/29/2007 2:16:26 PM Subject: Pointe Sainte Anne Cemetry Mr. Lawrence, I was pleased to read from a descendant of the Bergeron family from Pointe-Sainte-Anne. Your timing of requesting information on the site of the cemetery is somewhat appropriate since the Société d'histoire de la rivière Saint-Jean (SHRSJ) wants to commemorate the 250e ann. of the destruction of the village in 2009. Over the years, the Société d'histoire has tried many times to have the site recongnised in a variety of ways. As part of our plan of activities for the year we want to examine, again, the feasability to have the site of the village recognized as a protected site either by the provincial government or by the federal government. I'll get back to you with more details on the activities the Société d'histoire has undertaken regarding the site of the village & its cemetery. In 1993, the Société d'histoire produced a small booklet dedicated to the history of Pointe-Sainte-Anne since there was, and still are, disagreement on who now owns the land. If you provide me with an address we could send you a copy (an English version) of that booklet which I think you would find most interesting. Meanwhile you could also, if you can, provide us with more details on your ancesters at Pointe-Sainte-Anne. If you do visit Fredericton next summer, we could arrange for a meeting. Bernard-M. Thériault President Société d'histoire de la rivière Saint-Jean." 7. BMS & NMD de Sauzon 1617 - 1901."Barthélemy arrived in New France between 1680 & 1684, with the first traces of him at Québec in 1684. The marquis de DENONVILLE arrived in Canada with 600 soldiers in 1684 as Governor, replacing M. de LA BARRE.On 11 Jul 1684 COLBERT wrote that the king was sending 300 soldiers on "L'Émérillon," which embarked on 13 Aug, forming five companies of 60 men each. They arrived in Québec around the end of Sep 1684."http://www.damboise.net/fiches/fiche50.html#f1258. 8. Mémoires de la Société-Généalogique Canadienne-Française , vol. 20, no. 3 (1969), p. 160 , Margaret Walker, Santa Cruz CA 95060."Article by Father Adrien Bergeron. Barthélemy would have arrived in Québec in Sep 1684 as a member of the first company Franche de la Marine, associated with D'Iberville. On 5 Nov 1684 the notary Michel Fillion wrote the terms of the contract, at the home of Jean Picart, merchant of Quebec. Barthélemy bergeron was listed as a "boullanger" (baker). He would be part of an association for five months, until 1 Jun 1685, when profits would be shared, He would have been a "voluntaire du Roy" rather than a soldier."Also vol. 20, no. 4 (1969), p. 201. 9. D'Amboise, Marius, "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)", p. 5."In 1690, before a risky expedition "aux anglois" (to the English), Barthélemy Bergeron, a "vollontaire" living in Quebec, made a will before the notary Gilles Rageot. Item: give to Pierre LEZEAU, ship's master, living in Quebec, the sum of three hundred livres (pounds), for the good friendship he has for him;Item: give to the poor of the general hospital of this city another sum of three hundred pounds. Pierre Lezeau had eleven hundred fifty pounds on hand. The surplus was to be given to make prayers to God for the repose of his sould after his death." 10. ACADIAN Digest, www.acadian@rootsweb.com."Barthelemy was captured twice: 1694 and 1704-06. The latter time was when he had his whole family with him and during this time a daughter was born."Posting by Richard Bergeron in Mar 2008. 11. Margaret C. Melanson, Melanson Story, The: Acadian Family, Acadian Times, Toronto: Author, 2003, p. 87, Karen Theriot Reader, 2045 Green Valley Road, Corralitos CA 95076-8618 USA."The house of Barthélemy BERGERON is shown on the map of the 1707 census, just southwest of the village of Port Royal, next door to Abraham DUGAS." 12. ACADIAN-CAJUN@rootsweb.com , Internet."DAMBOUC [sic, this is a mistranscription, should be DAMBOISE], living with a wife, three sons and three daughters."Posting by Rich Bergeron (rgergeron1@mn.rr.com) in Dec 2004. 13. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes , p. 122."Commerçant (he was a merchant)." 14. Thomas J. Laforest, Our French-Canadian Ancestors (various), vol. XIX."Barthélemy BERGERON was a soldier in the first Compagnie Franche de la Marine, a companion of Iberville. Navigator, ship's captain and privateer, he sailed all of his life in the area of the Bay of Fundy."Covers many names, including Andre BERGERON, in Chapter 5. 15. Bergeron-damboise@googlegroups.com."He was mentioned in the 1731 census as "The old Bergeron d'Amboise" (he would have been about 65 then)."Posting by Aline in Sep 2007. 16. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes , pp. 122 & 1463."Geneviève was a widow of Jacques PETITPAS."No place given for marriage. 17. ACADIAN Digest."We do not know for sure how Barthélémy first met Geneviève, the younger daughter of Jean Serreau de St-Aubin and Marguerite Boyleau, but we can weave together some intriguing strands of information. Fr. Bergeron wondered if Barthélémy and Geneviève might have met at the time of delivering Jean Serreau's family from their captivity in Boston. We have no idea when they first met or what transpired on those meeting(s), for Geneviève was probably married at the time to Jacques Petitpas. She had given birth to two sons, Jean (born 1691) and Nicolas. But Petitpas had died in 1694. Fr. Adrien Bergeron wrote: "the wife of Barthélémy was certainly Geneviève Serreau de Saint-Aubin, but, contrary to what Bona Arsenault erroneously tells, not the widow of Jacques Petitpas; the latter, in fact, had married the older sister of Geneviève, Marguerite." On the other hand, Stephen White, acclaimed genealogist at the Centre d'Etudes Acadienne at the Université de Moncton, who supposedly double- and triple-checked every fact before publishing his two-volume Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes, insists that Geneviève was indeed the widow of Jacques Petitpas. So, who are we to believe? We stared at a crucial piece of information for years until Joe Damboise of Grafton, NH, pointed out that in the diaries of his expedition in 1704, Colonel Church mentions finding "De Boisses' wife, who had formerly been Colonel Church's prisoner, and carried to Boston, but returned; who seemed very glad to see him. She had with her, two sons, that were near grown men." Joe pointed out what should have been obvious to us: these "two sons, that were near grown men" had to be her sons Jean and Nicolas Petitpas, now in their early teens, nearly grown men in those days. About 1695 D'Iberville was set to lead another expedition against Newfoundland, but royal bureaucracy balked at his military expenditures. He had to go to France to argue his cause, and even then funding was not quick to come. As Fr. Bergeron wrote, he could no longer keep around him his 18 to 20 favorites. But as far as Barthélémy was concerned, he was no longer associated with D'Iberville. Besides, at this time he was being held in a prison in Boston. Fr. Bergeron wrote that in 1695, "without doubt, his betrothed Geneviève Serreau de Saint-Aubin had taken the opportunity of the 'difficulties of d'Iberville' to finally convince Barthélémy that the hour had come!" We do not know if Barthélémy continued to sail with Baptiste after his marriage. Joe Damboise brought another very interesting point to my attention. In analyzing the governor's letters, we see that Villebon was notified on December 9, 1694 that the English wanted to exchange a sailor of Baptiste's crew for an English ship-master that Villebon was holding. The exchange actually occurred on June 24, 1695. Thus it is firmly established for us that Barthélémy Bergeron D'Amboise was in prison in Boston, at the very minimum, for almost seven months. We also know that Benjamin Church captured members of the Serreau de St.-Aubin family in 1692. According to the Dictionary of Canadian Biography: "in a letter that Saint-Aubin sent to Boston in 1695 mention is made of a ransom of 30 livres for his daughter." The most logical daughter would be Geneviève, captured in 1692 with her husband at the time, Jacques Petitpas. Thus we have Barthélémy and Geneviève, the widow of Petitpas, in prison in Boston at the same time. How do we know they were together? Their first child was Barthélémy II, baptized at Île d'Orléans (Québec) on 1 January 1696. (The baby's godparents were Michel Chartier and his grandmother, Marguerite Boisleau.) We have no idea why the family was in Québec at this time. We do know for facts that: 1.) Petitpas had died in 1694, 2.) Barthélémy Bergeron D'Amboise was not freed from Boston until late June of 1695, and 3.) Barthelemy II was baptized on 1 January 1696, meaning, of course, that he had been born before then. Calculations easily made show that Barthélémy and Geneviève HAD to have been together for Barthélémy II to be conceived and born before the following New Year's Day. And both Barthélémy and Geneviève were in Boston prisons when son Barthélémy had to have been conceived. Logically they must have been together in the same prison. Fr. Bergeron believes that Barthélémy and Geneviève were almost certainly married at Port Royal. There were no chapels or missions yet at any of the places where they would later live. Their marriage date was probably some time in 1695. Fr. Bergeron believed that no marriage certificate survived the later wars and deportations: "For, if my 'historical notes' are exact, the first parish Régistre of Port-Royal, ... covers only the years going from 1702 to 1715...." But the fact that they were in Québec for the baptism..." 18. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes , pp. 122, 1299 & 1463."Geneviève SERREAU de SAINT-AUBIN, daughter of Jean & Marguerite BOILEAU, born/baptized (Register of Québec) on the 7/9 Aug 1667. Sponsors: Xyste CHARRIER dit Mignard & Genevieve MACARD (wife of Charles BAZIRE)." 19. Programme de recherche en démographie historique , No. 58172, Internet, http://www.genealogie.umontreal.ca/en/leprdh.htm.Individual information."Genevieve SERREAU, daughter of Jean SERREAU STAUBIN & Marguerite BOISLEAU, born 7 Aug 1667, baptized at Québec on 9 Aug 1667 by Henri DEBERNIERES, priest. Sponsors: Xiste CARIER MIGNARD, officer of the Carignan Regiment, & Genevieve MACOART, wife of Charles BASIRE." 20. Stephen A. White, Dictionnaire Généalogique des Familles Acadiennes , pp. 122, 1299 & 1463."Genevieve died after the 1739 census." 21. D'Amboise, Marius, "Histoire et généalogie des Bergeron-D'Amboise en Amérique (1684-2001)", p. 2."Cites a document from the library of Amboise, classified GG59." 22. 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>From cousine Eileen. One of our western Canada cousines Partial tree info follows obit Paul Le B l'Ascension Louisiane ===================== OBITUARY OF YVETTE NOELLA MARIE GAUDET, extracted by Eileen Horan, from the May 26th 2001 edition of the Prince Albert Daily Herald: GAUDET - Yvette Noella Marie Gaudet passed away peacefully on Thursday, May 24th 2001, after a final brief battle with cancer.She was predeceased by her husband, Pierre-Albert Gaudet, in 1961; and her grandson, Trent Gaudet. Left to mourn her passing are her children: Gregoire [Lucille], Marcien [friend Jacqueline], Alain [Evelyn], Roland [Claire], Bernard [Paulette], Helene, Theodore [Susan]; in addition to her 23 grandchildren and 20 great grandchildren. She is survived by 7 sisters and one brother. vette was born on November 08th 1913 in the small French communtiy of St Isidore de Bellevue, Saskatchewan. She lived there until 1966, when she moved to Saskatoon and began working at the University Hospital. Yvette was deeply committed to Villa Bonheur Co-operative Housing and served as a a member of the board for the past fifteen years. She was also tirelessly devoted to the francophone community and its organizations. She often volunteered with the University and L'Ecole Canadienne Francaise, pulling taffy, reading to the children, or helping young students to master their French language. She was a faithful contributor and volunteer to the Francophone Pavilion in the yearly Folkfest celebrations. Yvette spent many hours knitting for family and the community, hospitals, the homeless, schools, the correctional centre, and any organization in need. She was always a good organizer. You could count on a job well done with any task placed in her trust. She would often reply that her house cleaning could wait. Her roots remained on the farm, where she had spent her life before coming to Saskatoon. She loved going back every fall, to partake in the sights and sounds of a farm in its golden glory. Prayers will be held at Saints Martyrs Canadiens on Sunday, May 27th 2001, at 7:30 p.m. The Funer Service is on Monday, May 28th 2001, at 10:30 a.m., also at Saints Martyrs Canadiens [1007 Windsor Street] in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan. Interment will be in the Memorial Gardens in Prince Albert.Yvette was an enthusiastic suppporter of Teen-Aid, often helping with fundraising. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to Teen-Aid #107-2002 Quebec Avenue, Saskatoon, SK. S7K 1W4 ***************** Addendum to Obituary, Written by Eileen Horan: Yvette was a daughter of Adrien E. Gaudet [1891-1968] and Valida Dupuis [1891-1987] - being the eldest child in a family of ten. She married Pierre-Albert Gaudet [1917-1961] on October 12th 1937 in St Isidore de Bellevue, Saskatchewan. Pierre-Albert was a son of Emery Gaudet [1880-1954] and Parmelia Grenier [1879-1945] - being the third child in a family of 4 children. They were each descendants of Denis Jean Gaudet [1621-1709] and Anne "Martine" Gauthier [1619-1710], who were married in 1645 at Port Royal, Annapolis, Acadie [Nova Scotia].Yvette Gaudet and Pierre-Albert Gaudet were 4th cousins
I could not find her parents marriage in Quebec so I decided to chase the family in the US census She may have been named for her uncle joseph's wife Notes by each census It looks like her parents MAY have been married in New York Paul Le B l'Ascension Louisiane ======================== Her older sister Asildo is born in New York in 1856 so our working parents marriage date is 1855 Josephine is 5/12 (months) Does anyone know if 1860 census ages based on date taken June 2 (Jan 1860 birth) or Jan 1 (Jul 1859 birth)? 1860 United States Federal Census about Josephine Ratelle Name: Josephine Ratelle Age in 1860: 5/12 Birth Year: abt 1860 Birthplace: Wisconsin Home in 1860: Grand Rapids, Wood, Wisconsin Gender: Female Post Office: Grand Rapids Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Francis Ratelle 30 Demetille Ratelle 22 Asildo Ratelle 4 Joseph Ratelle 3 Josephine Ratelle 5/12 ============================================ Daughters are missing from the census? Have the girls gone to work this early? Living next to them is N? & Debra Landry? (hold in case they tie in later. 1870 United States Federal Census about Frank Rattelle Name: Frank Rattelle Birth Year: abt 1834 Age in 1870: 36 Birthplace: Canada Home in 1870: Centralia, Wood, Wisconsin Race: White Gender: Male Value of real estate: View image Post Office: Centralia Household Members: Name Age Frank Rattelle 36 Demos Rattelle 29 Joseph Rattelle 8 George Rattelle 5 Frank Rattelle 3 John Rattelle 7/12 ========================================== Josephine is working out of the home 1880 United States Federal Census about Josephine Rattell Name: Josephine Rattell Home in 1880: Centralia, Wood, Wisconsin Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Birthplace: Wisconsin Relation to Head of Household: Something other than a direct relationship (Other) Father's birthplace: Cana Mother's birthplace: Cana Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Servant Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Female Household Members: Name Age Frank W. Hinman 26 Henrietta Hinman 21 Josephine Rattell 20 Frederick Hinman 17 =========================== The rest of the family 1880 United States Federal Census about Frank Rattell Name: Frank Rattell Home in 1880: Centralia, Wood, Wisconsin Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1830 Birthplace: Cana Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) Spouse's name: Matilda Father's birthplace: Cana Mother's birthplace: Cana Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Teamster Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age Frank Rattell 50 Matilda Rattell 44 Joseph Rattell 22 George Rattell 16 Caroline Rattell 17 Frank Rattell 12 Clarence Rattell 5 Cimion Rattell 3 Mary Rattell 1M
Michael C found them in Colorado in 1910 census. This says Josette born in Wisconsin but her parents from French Canada This implies her family had come down a generation before Valentin's. Paul Le B l'Ascension Louisiane ============================================== 1910 United States Federal Census about Valentine H Landry Name: Valentine H Landry Age in 1910: 53 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Birthplace: Canada French Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Canada French Mother's Birth Place: Canada French Spouse's name: Finetta R Home in 1910: Denver Ward 9, Denver, Colorado Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Year of Immigration: 1881 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Valentine H Landry 53 Finetta R Landry 50
Catherine Bugaret 1638 – 1693 (Bernard & ?) DGFA Page 1295 This is an alternate source for DGFA for David Bergeron dit Ambroise David Bergeron, Twelve years after the Fronde (1664), Antoine Bergeron married Claudette Searron (or Scarron) at Chapelle St-Florentin, Amboise. According to one unconfirmed source, their son Barthélémy was born on May 23 of the following year. All baptized at Notre Dame de Grève, Amboise Jean III (1598) Catherine Douaray 1623 Chaumont-sur-Loire Jean IV(1633) Louise (1637) Jacques (1642) [twins?] Marie 1642) [twins?] Antoine (1643) Catherine (1644) Thomas (1648) Pierre (1650) Antoine (1643) Claudette Scarron 1664 Chapelle St-Florentin, Amboise Barthélémy (c1665) Now, even though Father Bergeron published the data provided by Dame Lubineau of Nantes, he admitted that it was uncertain whether this Barthelemy was our ancestor. The problem was the fact that "she has not yet succeeded in discovering the baptismal certificate of Barthelemy: which forces us for the moment to consider 'this French part' of our genealogy as only 'hypothetical,' though endowed with strong probability." Alan
Hi cousins We are cleaning up Valentin's tree If anyone has sources that disagree please share These are not in SAW or his Adds & Corrections ========================== Francoise parents are unknown 271. Francoise Corbineau 542. Mathurin Corbineau 543. Marguerite Ciret ========================== The mother of Catherine Bugaret is unknown!!! Her father is Bernard but mothers name was lost. Someone had mentioned Catherine had brothers that died young. Anyone have that source? 283. Catherine Bugaret 566. Bernard Bugaret 567. Catherine Bagard ========================== 68. Barthelemy Bergeron d'Ambois Something I had that we do not have sources for. Does anyone else have this? First Generation 1. (1) Barthelemy Bergeron dit d'Amboise[1] was born about 1643 in Amboise, Touraine, France. Barthelemy married[1] Genevieve Serreau dit Saint Aubin[1,2], daughter of Jean Serreau and Marguerite Boisleau, about 1695. Genevieve was born 7 Aug 1667 and was baptized 9 Aug 1667 in Quebec City, Quebec . She died after 1739. Second Generation 2. Jean Bergeron was born 1598 in Chaumount S'Loire, Loir et Cher, France. He married Catherine Douaray on 1623 in Chaumount S'Loire, Loir et Cher, France. 3. Catherine Douaray was born in France. Third Generation 4. Jean Bergeron was born 1570 in Chaumount S'Loire, Loir et Cher, France. He married Jeanne Beluche on 1595 in Ambroise, Indre-et-Loire, Notre Dame, France. 5. Jeanne Beluche. Fourth Generation 8. Jean Bergeron was born 1540 in Ambroise, Touraine, France. He married Gabrielle Bardougne on 1564 in Chaumount S'Loire, Loir et Cher, France. 9. Gabrielle Bardougne was born in France. 10. Antoine Beluche. Appendix A - Sources 1. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes 1636-1714 v1, p 122-124 Bergeron Barthelemy (1). 2. Stephen A White, Dictionnaire Genealogique des Familles Acadiennes 1636-1714 v2, p 1295-1296 Petitpas Claude (1). ========================== SAW has not updated the online adds & corrections since 2007. Paul Le B l'Ascension Louisiane
Michael Cecil had/found some of Valetin's ancestors back to the founding of Acadia, Verify, Verify,.Verify & document. I found a few people we need to double check. Use this skeleton to follow where to go look next. We will probably work your other Landry lines & then the unfinished mostly Quebec lines. Most Acadian family names have one founder. A few have several. There were two Landry founders both named Rene. We do not know how or if they are related. We do not have any surviving marriage dispensations. You have both. Good Hunting Paul Le B l'Ascension Louyisiane -----Original Message----- From: Cecil This may help in the searching. 1. Valentin Xavier Landry 2. Francois Xavier Landry 3. Marie Bouchard 4.Augustin Landry 5. Marie Phocas dit Raimon 6. Francois Gaspard Bouchard 7. Marie Lainé 8. Pierre Landry 9. Marie Theotiste Lainé 12.. Hubert Bouchard 13. Marie Josephte Michaud 14. Michel Lainé 15. Marie Josephte Bouchard 16. Alexis Landry 17. Madeleine Bergeron 18/28. Michel Lainé 19/29. Marie Angelique Ouellet 24. Nicolas Bouchard 25. Madeleine Gauthier 26. Jean Michaud 27. Marie Veronique ?Bxdx 32. Antoine Landry 33. Marie Blanche LeBlanc 34. Michel Bergeron 35. Marie Dugas 36/56. Nicolas Lainé 37/57. Marie ?Boattoup 38/58. Augustin Ouellet 39/59. Marie Angelique la Barrierre 64. Antoine Landry 65. Marie Thibodeau 66. Antoine LeBlanc 67. Marie Bourgeois 68. Barthelemy Bergeron d'Ambois 69. Genevieve Serreau de Saint-Aubin 70. Abraham Dugas dit Grivois 71. Marie Madeleine Landry 128. Rene le jeune Landry 129. Marie Bernard 130. Pierre Thibodeau 131. Jeanne Theriot 132. Daniel LeBlanc 133. Francoise Gaudet 134. Jacques Bourgeois 135. Jeanne Trahan 138. Jean Serreau de Saint-Aubin 139. Marguerite Boileau 140. Martin Dugas 141. Marguerite Petitpas 142. Claude Landry 143. Marguerite Theriot 258. ~ Bernard 259. Andree Guyon 262/572. Jehan Theriot 263/573. Perrine Rau 266. Jehan Gaudet 270. Guillaume Trahan 271. Francoise Corbineau 280. Abraham Dugas 281. Marguerite Doucet 282. Claude Petitpas 283. Catherine Bugaret 284. Rene l'aine Landry 285. Perrine Bourg 286. Claude Theriot 287. Marie Gautrot 540. Nicolas Trahan 541. Renee Desloges 542. Mathurin Corbineau 543. Marguerite Ciret 562. Germain Doucet 566. Bernard Bugaret 567. Catherine Bagard 574. Francois Gautrot 575. Edmee Aimee LeJeune
This may help in the searching. 1. Valentin Xavier Landry 2. Francois Xavier Landry 3. Marie Bouchard 4.Augustin Landry 5. Marie Phocas dit Raimon 6. Francois Gaspard Bouchard 7. Marie Lainé 8. Pierre Landry 9. Marie Theotiste Lainé 12.. Hubert Bouchard 13. Marie Josephte Michaud 14. Michel Lainé 15. Marie Josephte Bouchard 16. Alexis Landry 17. Madeleine Bergeron 18/28. Michel Lainé 19/29. Marie Angelique Ouellet 24. Nicolas Bouchard 25. Madeleine Gauthier 26. Jean Michaud 27. Marie Veronique ?Bxdx 32. Antoine Landry 33. Marie Blanche LeBlanc 34. Michel Bergeron 35. Marie Dugas 36/56. Nicolas Lainé 37/57. Marie ?Boattoup 38/58. Augustin Ouellet 39/59. Marie Angelique la Barrierre 64. Antoine Landry 65. Marie Thibodeau 66. Antoine LeBlanc 67. Marie Bourgeois 68. Barthelemy Bergeron d'Ambois 69. Genevieve Serreau de Saint-Aubin 70. Abraham Dugas dit Grivois 71. Marie Madeleine Landry 128. Rene le jeune Landry 129. Marie Bernard 130. Pierre Thibodeau 131. Jeanne Theriot 132. Daniel LeBlanc 133. Francoise Gaudet 134. Jacques Bourgeois 135. Jeanne Trahan 138. Jean Serreau de Saint-Aubin 139. Marguerite Boileau 140. Martin Dugas 141. Marguerite Petitpas 142. Claude Landry 143. Marguerite Theriot 258. ~ Bernard 259. Andree Guyon 262/572. Jehan Theriot 263/573. Perrine Rau 266. Jehan Gaudet 270. Guillaume Trahan 271. Francoise Corbineau 280. Abraham Dugas 281. Marguerite Doucet 282. Claude Petitpas 283. Catherine Bugaret 284. Rene l'aine Landry 285. Perrine Bourg 286. Claude Theriot 287. Marie Gautrot 540. Nicolas Trahan 541. Renee Desloges 542. Mathurin Corbineau 543. Marguerite Ciret 562. Germain Doucet 566. Bernard Bugaret 567. Catherine Bagard 574. Francois Gautrot 575. Edmee Aimee LeJeune